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wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:42 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:45 am NBC News confirms: There have been 194,160 new COVID-19 cases in the U.S. today, a new single-day record. ⁦‪@NBCNews‬⁩


11/20/20, 10:15 PM

rate of change slowing. finally. hope it sticks.

Bart wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:37 pm Interesting meta analysis from Lancet Microbe looking at viral load, and viral shedding. It does a little comparison between COVID-19, MERS and SARS as well.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanm ... 5/fulltext

Interesting take aways, IMO, there is a prolonged viral shedding of up to 83 days but an inability to culture active virus after 9 days of onset of symptoms. No successful culture of virus below a certain threshold and it suggest most infectious stage is as people have thought, early in the onset of the disease.

This would suggest to me that a great strategy for heading off the spread of this thing would be self administered home rapid tests.

If you want to read more on that avenue you may want to check out Michael Mina, a Harvard Epidemiologist, Immunologist. He is pretty adamant on the strategy. To me, it makes sense the more I read about it.

Here is a quote of a recent article he wrote: "
Widespread and frequent rapid antigen testing (public health screening to suppress outbreaks) is the best possible tool we have at our disposal today—and we are not using it."

Here is the article:https://time.com/5912705/covid-19-stop- ... christmas/

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:41 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:41 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:37 pm Interesting meta analysis from Lancet Microbe looking at viral load, and viral shedding. It does a little comparison between COVID-19, MERS and SARS as well.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanm ... 5/fulltext

Interesting take aways, IMO, there is a prolonged viral shedding of up to 83 days but an inability to culture active virus after 9 days of onset of symptoms. No successful culture of virus below a certain threshold and it suggest most infectious stage is as people have thought, early in the onset of the disease.

This would suggest to me that a great strategy for heading off the spread of this thing would be self administered home rapid tests.

If you want to read more on that avenue you may want to check out Michael Mina, a Harvard Epidemiologist, Immunologist. He is pretty adamant on the strategy. To me, it makes sense the more I read about it.

Here is a quote of a recent article he wrote: "
Widespread and frequent rapid antigen testing (public health screening to suppress outbreaks) is the best possible tool we have at our disposal today—and we are not using it."

Here is the article:https://time.com/5912705/covid-19-stop- ... christmas/

I would suspect that would be a good short term goal of Biden when he takes office. It is too bad that Trump is still wanting to have low testing to "look" better rather than doing the right thing.

... your analysis appears correct. My concern with at home testing in general is, it will not gain us much given the current attitudes among the populous. If you believe it is a hoax, are you going to run the test. If you run the test, are you going to believe the results and act on them. I am skeptical. In a world where we didn't have to contend with dumbasses this would all work great.

The nice thing about this approach is even if only half the population uses it - it still works, just a bit more slowly...

Jim Malone wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:06 pm Another positive rapid test result on Thursday after receiving text I was in contact with a positive tested person.
No symptoms except fatigue like the first time. Just sleeping the days and nights away.
Waiting for the result of swab sent to lab.
So 2 positives and 2 negatives so far with a no antigen/antibody in blood for last bloodwork.
Pulse Oximeter numbers are above normal and temperature is fine.
I think I am getting snow jobbed and no one really knows what this ducking thing is.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:29 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:41 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:41 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:37 pm Interesting meta analysis from Lancet Microbe looking at viral load, and viral shedding. It does a little comparison between COVID-19, MERS and SARS as well.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanm ... 5/fulltext

Interesting take aways, IMO, there is a prolonged viral shedding of up to 83 days but an inability to culture active virus after 9 days of onset of symptoms. No successful culture of virus below a certain threshold and it suggest most infectious stage is as people have thought, early in the onset of the disease.

This would suggest to me that a great strategy for heading off the spread of this thing would be self administered home rapid tests.

If you want to read more on that avenue you may want to check out Michael Mina, a Harvard Epidemiologist, Immunologist. He is pretty adamant on the strategy. To me, it makes sense the more I read about it.

Here is a quote of a recent article he wrote: "
Widespread and frequent rapid antigen testing (public health screening to suppress outbreaks) is the best possible tool we have at our disposal today—and we are not using it."

Here is the article:https://time.com/5912705/covid-19-stop- ... christmas/

I would suspect that would be a good short term goal of Biden when he takes office. It is too bad that Trump is still wanting to have low testing to "look" better rather than doing the right thing.

... your analysis appears correct. My concern with at home testing in general is, it will not gain us much given the current attitudes among the populous. If you believe it is a hoax, are you going to run the test. If you run the test, are you going to believe the results and act on them. I am skeptical. In a world where we didn't have to contend with dumbasses this would all work great.

The nice thing about this approach is even if only half the population uses it - it still works, just a bit more slowly...

... don't get me wrong, I see the massive potential for this technology. The technology is not the problem. It's the morons who don't believe in science.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:30 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:29 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:41 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:41 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:37 pm Interesting meta analysis from Lancet Microbe looking at viral load, and viral shedding. It does a little comparison between COVID-19, MERS and SARS as well.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanm ... 5/fulltext

Interesting take aways, IMO, there is a prolonged viral shedding of up to 83 days but an inability to culture active virus after 9 days of onset of symptoms. No successful culture of virus below a certain threshold and it suggest most infectious stage is as people have thought, early in the onset of the disease.

This would suggest to me that a great strategy for heading off the spread of this thing would be self administered home rapid tests.

If you want to read more on that avenue you may want to check out Michael Mina, a Harvard Epidemiologist, Immunologist. He is pretty adamant on the strategy. To me, it makes sense the more I read about it.

Here is a quote of a recent article he wrote: "
Widespread and frequent rapid antigen testing (public health screening to suppress outbreaks) is the best possible tool we have at our disposal today—and we are not using it."

Here is the article:https://time.com/5912705/covid-19-stop- ... christmas/

I would suspect that would be a good short term goal of Biden when he takes office. It is too bad that Trump is still wanting to have low testing to "look" better rather than doing the right thing.

... your analysis appears correct. My concern with at home testing in general is, it will not gain us much given the current attitudes among the populous. If you believe it is a hoax, are you going to run the test. If you run the test, are you going to believe the results and act on them. I am skeptical. In a world where we didn't have to contend with dumbasses this would all work great.

The nice thing about this approach is even if only half the population uses it - it still works, just a bit more slowly...

... don't get me wrong, I see the massive potential for this technology. The technology is not the problem. It's the morons who don't believe in science.

This article is from the first two known people that were closely monitored and treated only with oxygen, they did not seem to cause great alarm from the finding: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036338/

If home testing is going to be used, it MUST be as simple as a pregnancy test, and each family will need dozens and each test MUST be standardized .....which is why I do not believe it will ever happen.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:30 pm If home testing is going to be used, it MUST be as simple as a pregnancy test, and each family will need dozens and each test MUST be standardized .....which is why I do not believe it will ever happen.

njbill wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:06 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:30 pm If home testing is going to be used, it MUST be as simple as a pregnancy test, and each family will need dozens and each test MUST be standardized .....which is why I do not believe it will ever happen.

Agree re home testing. In my area, it is quite difficult to get a test, any test, right now. I was told by the county health department that that is because of the upcoming holiday which is sorta, kinda when you’d like testing to be available.

But don’t worry. Help is on the way on Jan. 20.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:58 am

Bart wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:37 pm Interesting meta analysis from Lancet Microbe looking at viral load, and viral shedding. It does a little comparison between COVID-19, MERS and SARS as well.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanm ... 5/fulltext

Interesting take aways, IMO, there is a prolonged viral shedding of up to 83 days but an inability to culture active virus after 9 days of onset of symptoms. No successful culture of virus below a certain threshold and it suggest most infectious stage is as people have thought, early in the onset of the disease.

This would suggest to me that a great strategy for heading off the spread of this thing would be self administered home rapid tests.

If you want to read more on that avenue you may want to check out Michael Mina, a Harvard Epidemiologist, Immunologist. He is pretty adamant on the strategy. To me, it makes sense the more I read about it.

Here is a quote of a recent article he wrote: "
Widespread and frequent rapid antigen testing (public health screening to suppress outbreaks) is the best possible tool we have at our disposal today—and we are not using it."

Here is the article:https://time.com/5912705/covid-19-stop- ... christmas/

thanks. seems people got the infectious part largely right early on.

interesting and good to see a cheap solution (no barrier there) that would have a built in accuracy platform. that's what, the ability to get out 330 million kits to perform billions of tests... does mina have a breakdown of how quickly that could be accomplished anywhere?

univ of illinois has tried similar plan, to mixed results. outside of upper bound models bc they didn't foresee kids would still go to parties, not take the call on results, not cooperate with contact tracing.

very difficult to impossible to model behavior.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm ...really tough to get a test unless showing symptoms...way too late...

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:07 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm ...really tough to get a test unless showing symptoms...way too late...

Where are you seeing it rough to get a test? I have had over over 25 men in the DMV get tests within hours/same day....no problems whatsoever.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:55 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:07 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm ...really tough to get a test unless showing symptoms...way too late...

Where are you seeing it rough to get a test? I have had over over 25 men in the DMV get tests within hours/same day....no problems whatsoever.

I haven't personally seen the issue and described a good experience, however: https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-covid-tes ... s-holidays

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/health/c ... index.html

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:04 am you're not lying to get a test? rookie.