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Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:07 am
by LaxDadMax
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
I expect to see more. Maybe not as high profile, though. I know of two Ivy league/high academic likely decommits coming soon. Not because the girls changed their mind, but because these schools have changed from test-optional since September for 25s and these girls haven't gotten the minimum scores yet.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:39 am
by Quill
Odds of Taylor Gait heading back to Cuse?

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:47 am
by intheknow247
Quill wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:39 am Odds of Taylor Gait heading back to Cuse?
Zero - not while KT is there (which may not be long…). KT was excluded, due to her recent affair activities, from a “girls” weekend of alum that are all buddies from that era. KT’s former teammates have all but blacklisted her.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:55 am
by Relax77
intheknow247 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:47 am
Quill wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:39 am Odds of Taylor Gait heading back to Cuse?
Zero - not while KT is there (which may not be long…). KT was excluded due to her recent affair activities from a “girls” weekend of alum that are all buddies from that era. KT’s former teammates have all but blacklisted her.
Wow. If true. She’ll be out of Cuse.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:51 am
by LaxNJ71
LaxDadMax wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:07 am
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
I expect to see more. Maybe not as high profile, though. I know of two Ivy league likely decommits coming soon. Not because the girls changed their mind, but because these schools have changed from test-optional since September for 25s and these girls haven't gotten the minimum scores yet.
Which Ivy’s aren’t test optional anymore? What are the scores required for athletes?

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:36 pm
by LaxDadMax
LaxNJ71 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:51 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:07 am
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
I expect to see more. Maybe not as high profile, though. I know of two Ivy league likely decommits coming soon. Not because the girls changed their mind, but because these schools have changed from test-optional since September for 25s and these girls haven't gotten the minimum scores yet.
Which Ivy’s aren’t test optional anymore? What are the scores required for athletes?
Penn, Princeton and Columbia, Cornell are test optional in the fall 2024 cycle. Cornell, Penn and Princeton will switch to test requited in fall 2025. Dartmouth, Harvard and Brown switched to tests required for upcoming cycle since last fall.

Ivy League schools require a certain academic index from its athletes (a formula based on a combo of unweighted GPA and test scores). For non-testing schools, its just GPA.

Actual indexes vary a bit by school and sport.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:38 pm
by LaxPundit07
intheknow247 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:47 am
Quill wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:39 am Odds of Taylor Gait heading back to Cuse?
Zero - not while KT is there (which may not be long…). KT was excluded, due to her recent affair activities, from a “girls” weekend of alum that are all buddies from that era. KT’s former teammates have all but blacklisted her.
THEY DIDN’T INVITE HER TO A GIRLS WEEKEND?! OH THE HUMANITY!

Worst post of the year.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:47 pm
by hmmm
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
From what I've heard, it had nothing to do with it. There's been a general lack of communication between coach and player for some time for some reason.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:50 pm
by njbill
One of the posts in this thread (I think it’s this thread) said the affair began in October of last year. When did it come to the attention of the Syracuse administration? Did they conduct an investigation? What were the results? What action, if any, has been taken? Or has the investigation closed with no action having been taken?

This is now just being reported on this board, but it seems to be quite possible that Syracuse has already taken final action, whatever that might be, perhaps months ago.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:12 pm
by Madlax59
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
I had heard last fall that pencek could not get far enough away from Spallina and wanted to be the top dog at Clemson. Wonder if this has changed or if she’s aggravated with signing. Only what I had heard from club chatter ….

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:28 pm
by GratefulRed
hmmm wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:47 pm
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
From what I've heard, it had nothing to do with it. There's been a general lack of communication between coach and player for some time for some reason.
hmmm brings up a point that is worth bearing in mind for recruits/commits. I remember being somewhat surprised by the scarcity of communication between coaches and commits between junior year of hs and arrival on campus. It is a looong wait for players and families and a bit of attention from the staff goes a long way. In a landscape where programs now have another assistant coach and money is potentially flowing more freely, I wonder if/how coaches will be keeping closer tabs on their commits.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:39 pm
by hmmm
GratefulRed wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:28 pm
hmmm wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:47 pm
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
From what I've heard, it had nothing to do with it. There's been a general lack of communication between coach and player for some time for some reason.
hmmm brings up a point that is worth bearing in mind for recruits/commits. I remember being somewhat surprised by the scarcity of communication between coaches and commits between junior year of hs and arrival on campus. It is a looong wait for players and families and a bit of attention from the staff goes a long way. In a landscape where programs now have another assistant coach and money is potentially flowing more freely, I wonder if/how coaches will be keeping closer tabs on their commits.
100%. And from what I've heard, AS had not heard from Kayla since November. There were a myriad of things that went into the commitment change. I don't believe the personal issues with the coaches really played a role in it. I'm sure the disarray isn't helping things though.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:00 pm
by Relax77
Madlax59 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:12 pm
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
I had heard last fall that pencek could not get far enough away from Spallina and wanted to be the top dog at Clemson. Wonder if this has changed or if she’s aggravated with signing. Only what I had heard from club chatter ….
No idea but I’m sure any transfer in or commit like that secretly bothers most of the kids. Especially transfers.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:11 pm
by Relax77
GratefulRed wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:28 pm
hmmm wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:47 pm
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
From what I've heard, it had nothing to do with it. There's been a general lack of communication between coach and player for some time for some reason.
hmmm brings up a point that is worth bearing in mind for recruits/commits. I remember being somewhat surprised by the scarcity of communication between coaches and commits between junior year of hs and arrival on campus. It is a looong wait for players and families and a bit of attention from the staff goes a long way. In a landscape where programs now have another assistant coach and money is potentially flowing more freely, I wonder if/how coaches will be keeping closer tabs on their commits.
When you’re a top player you probably should be treated a little differently. But most coaches aren’t calling in to check every week. In my experience. Once in the late fall. Once in the spring and whenever they want you at one of their camps. But if I was the rated number 1 recruit, I would want a little more attention. I assume the same thing happened to Eisfeld or is it a case where ever you go o go because we are besties.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:26 pm
by Bluecollar
LaxDadMax wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:36 pm
LaxNJ71 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:51 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:07 am
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
I expect to see more. Maybe not as high profile, though. I know of two Ivy league likely decommits coming soon. Not because the girls changed their mind, but because these schools have changed from test-optional since September for 25s and these girls haven't gotten the minimum scores yet.
Which Ivy’s aren’t test optional anymore? What are the scores required for athletes?
Penn, Princeton and Columbia, Cornell are test optional in the fall 2024 cycle. Cornell, Penn and Princeton will switch to test requited in fall 2025. Dartmouth, Harvard and Brown switched to tests required for upcoming cycle since last fall.

Ivy League schools require a certain academic index from its athletes (a formula based on a combo of unweighted GPA and test scores). For non-testing schools, its just GPA.

Actually indexes vary a bit by school and sport.
Y’all have been helpful before, so thanks for responses to other posts.

My daughter attends a super selective magnet high school (think TJ in VA type school - ranked in the top 40 HS in USA by USNews). It’s hard as hell. I swear her freshman coursework was harder than my (Ivy) courseload. The high school takes pride in offering very difficult classes and hard grading (no curves, etc.).

Point being: Her unweighted GPA is not going to be great. The high school counselors say that colleges will care more about rigor and weighted GPA. Yet your post (and others) suggest unweighted GPA matters more for elite academic/lax schools for recurring.

So the question is: For recruiting purposes (high academic, Ivy aspirations, but casting a wide wide net) will coaches look at the rigor of the school or just prefer a great GPA at a “regular” high school?

We’ve debated transferring her to a “regular” high school where As will be easy to come by (not just for lax here but for having a more normal HS life).

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:28 pm
by uncfan1013
I would’ve thought BC would be a better fit for Spallina and her game. Playing under Apuzzo & AWW and they graduate Lopinto & Davis the year before. She could easily be the quarterback of that offense and they are proven contenders. Clemson will be good, but I think they lack a few things that take them out of championship contender level, but they are a top 15 team in 2026 for sure.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:32 pm
by LaxDadMax
Bluecollar wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:26 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:36 pm
LaxNJ71 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:51 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:07 am
realitychecks wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:09 am Interested to know if the situation discussed on the transfer portal thread played into the decomitting
Regardless what a haul for Clemson who already had the best midfielder in Pencek now they add the #1 recruit and top attackman / QB in Spallina and now Eisfeld. Seen a few people mention “there’s only 1 ball” AS is a true QB and best passér in the class will she pull it down and dodge yes it’s depends on D Play her as a feeder she dodges and play her as a dodger she’s feeding. Think these recent moves help recruiting in a large way. It will be interesting to see if there are more flips before signing day. Enjoy the summer
I expect to see more. Maybe not as high profile, though. I know of two Ivy league likely decommits coming soon. Not because the girls changed their mind, but because these schools have changed from test-optional since September for 25s and these girls haven't gotten the minimum scores yet.
Which Ivy’s aren’t test optional anymore? What are the scores required for athletes?
Penn, Princeton and Columbia, Cornell are test optional in the fall 2024 cycle. Cornell, Penn and Princeton will switch to test requited in fall 2025. Dartmouth, Harvard and Brown switched to tests required for upcoming cycle since last fall.

Ivy League schools require a certain academic index from its athletes (a formula based on a combo of unweighted GPA and test scores). For non-testing schools, its just GPA.

Actually indexes vary a bit by school and sport.
Y’all have been helpful before, so thanks for responses to other posts.

My daughter attends a super selective magnet high school (think TJ in VA type school - ranked in the top 40 HS in USA bu USNews). It’s hard as hell. I swear her freshman coursework was harder than my (Ivy) courseload. The school take pride in offering very difficult classes and hard grading (no curves, etc.).

Point being: her unweighted GPA is not going to be great. the school counselors say that colleges will care more about rigor and weighted GPA. Yet your post (and others) suggest unweighted GPA matters more for elite academic/lax schools for recurring.

So the question is: for recruiting purposes (high academic, Ivy aspirations, but casting a wide wide net) will coaches look at the rigor of the school or just prefer a great GPA at a “regular” high school?

We’ve debated transferring her to a “regular” high school where As will be easy to come by (not just for lax here but for having a more normal HS life).
Feel free to DM me. I had a niece in a similar situation. Some stuff I don't feel comfortable posting on a public forum.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:42 pm
by LaxDadMax
uncfan1013 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:28 pm I would’ve thought BC would be a better fit for Spallina and her game. Playing under Apuzzo & AWW and they graduate Lopinto & Davis the year before. She could easily be the quarterback of that offense and they are proven contenders. Clemson will be good, but I think they lack a few things that take them out of championship contender level, but they are a top 15 team in 2026 for sure.
I actually think the best place for her would be Michigan. A team on the rise with great defense but only a couple playmakers on offense. A school where she could make an immediate impact, but far enough away from a spotlight it would mitigate pressure.

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:48 pm
by Fischer
LaxDadMax wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:42 pm
uncfan1013 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:28 pm I would’ve thought BC would be a better fit for Spallina and her game. Playing under Apuzzo & AWW and they graduate Lopinto & Davis the year before. She could easily be the quarterback of that offense and they are proven contenders. Clemson will be good, but I think they lack a few things that take them out of championship contender level, but they are a top 15 team in 2026 for sure.
I actually think the best place for her would be Michigan. A team on the rise with great defense but only a couple playmakers on offense. A school where she could make an immediate impact, but far enough away from a spotlight it would mitigate pressure.
Well I hear someone else from cuse is going to bc but I don’t have concrete info on that yet

Re: Recruiting

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:21 pm
by laxguy516
I wonder if these 2025 kids flipping to Clemson, 3 so far, will cause some current Clemson players to enter portal? It's pretty clear which basket the coaching staff is placing their eggs.....there will be a bunch of seniors cheering on this freshman class from the sideline come the spring of 2026