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Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:13 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:53 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:48 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:33 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:27 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:09 am
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:54 am It's settled......and you are FIRED. Poor Dr. Susan Crockford. Science is cool....until it's applied to gender :roll:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/16/ ... or-status/

Stifling scientific criticism
It appears certain to me that the Anthropology Department bowed to pressure from the administration, who themselves bowed to pressure from outside the university community, in an attempt to stifle my legitimate scientific criticisms of polar bear conservation issues. This kind of bullying has been happening far too often at universities, even in Canada.

Amazing article. One of several reasons I am no longer a Democrat. Though this issue took place in Canada, this kind of politics over science, anti free speech ethos seeps through many of my friends’ thoughts and wishes.
That is the reason why the objective of the Chicken little brigade has nothing to do with saving the planet. The objective is to gain power and money. To do that you have to shout down and stifle anyone who is not on board.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/category/blogarticle/ I know Dr Spencer is despised and hated on this forum. IMO his research and opinion is more than credible. My favorite part is reading all the debate back and forth from the eggheads that comment on Dr Spencers opinions.
roy spencer books: are they free?

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywo ... qUEALw_wcB
The issue is NOT Dr. Spencer, but Dr. Crockford.

Everyone ok with what happened to her?
Let the Canucks deal with it :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:22 pm
by runrussellrun
Why?

Guess you're just not concerned with facists. I am.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:23 pm
by runrussellrun
yup.....when all you got is spelling critiques.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:23 pm
by cradleandshoot
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:13 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:53 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:48 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:33 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:27 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:09 am
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:54 am It's settled......and you are FIRED. Poor Dr. Susan Crockford. Science is cool....until it's applied to gender :roll:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/16/ ... or-status/

Stifling scientific criticism
It appears certain to me that the Anthropology Department bowed to pressure from the administration, who themselves bowed to pressure from outside the university community, in an attempt to stifle my legitimate scientific criticisms of polar bear conservation issues. This kind of bullying has been happening far too often at universities, even in Canada.

Amazing article. One of several reasons I am no longer a Democrat. Though this issue took place in Canada, this kind of politics over science, anti free speech ethos seeps through many of my friends’ thoughts and wishes.
That is the reason why the objective of the Chicken little brigade has nothing to do with saving the planet. The objective is to gain power and money. To do that you have to shout down and stifle anyone who is not on board.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/category/blogarticle/ I know Dr Spencer is despised and hated on this forum. IMO his research and opinion is more than credible. My favorite part is reading all the debate back and forth from the eggheads that comment on Dr Spencers opinions.
roy spencer books: are they free?

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywo ... qUEALw_wcB
The issue is NOT Dr. Spencer, but Dr. Crockford.

Everyone ok with what happened to her?
Let the Canucks deal with it :lol: :lol: :lol:
I wonder what Greta has to say about it? It must make her very angry. Time for her to sail to Canada and let them all know where the bull dropped the buckwheat.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:26 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:23 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:13 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:53 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:48 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:33 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:27 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:09 am
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:54 am It's settled......and you are FIRED. Poor Dr. Susan Crockford. Science is cool....until it's applied to gender :roll:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/16/ ... or-status/

Stifling scientific criticism
It appears certain to me that the Anthropology Department bowed to pressure from the administration, who themselves bowed to pressure from outside the university community, in an attempt to stifle my legitimate scientific criticisms of polar bear conservation issues. This kind of bullying has been happening far too often at universities, even in Canada.

Amazing article. One of several reasons I am no longer a Democrat. Though this issue took place in Canada, this kind of politics over science, anti free speech ethos seeps through many of my friends’ thoughts and wishes.
That is the reason why the objective of the Chicken little brigade has nothing to do with saving the planet. The objective is to gain power and money. To do that you have to shout down and stifle anyone who is not on board.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/category/blogarticle/ I know Dr Spencer is despised and hated on this forum. IMO his research and opinion is more than credible. My favorite part is reading all the debate back and forth from the eggheads that comment on Dr Spencers opinions.
roy spencer books: are they free?

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywo ... qUEALw_wcB
The issue is NOT Dr. Spencer, but Dr. Crockford.

Everyone ok with what happened to her?
Let the Canucks deal with it :lol: :lol: :lol:
I wonder what Greta has to say about it? It must make her very angry. Time for her to sail to Canada and let them all know where the bull dropped the buckwheat.
She was "Stymied" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:27 pm
by jhu72
Sorry guys, but this Dr. Crockford case is certainly a crock of something. I have read the posted article. There is no proof of anything. There is at most circumstantial evidence due to dates of two normally unrelated event streams lining up. Not proof. This is the stuff of conspiracy theories.

Dr. Crockford is either naïve or lying in regards to the impact of the University's Adjunct Professor policy change. The policy change was directed at all adjunct positions and for an understandable reason. The policy change required that an actual University paid employee holding an academic position take responsibility for the actions of the adjunct volunteer. It is totally understandable. Was there any evidence provided that Dr. Crockford was the only adjunct effected. I did not see any. What happened in terms of the number of adjunct positions before and after the policy change?? I would guess the number of adjunct positions in the university declined.

Even if the policy change effected only Dr. Crockford, her described impact of what would happen to her career was pure bull. You do not need an academic position in order to participate in the academic community. Presenting papers, applying for grants and receiving grants. I did it successfully my entire life. Canada is no different as far as I know.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:08 pm
by runrussellrun
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:27 pm Sorry guys, but this Dr. Crockford case is certainly a crock of something. I have read the posted article. There is no proof of anything. There is at most circumstantial evidence due to dates of two normally unrelated event streams lining up. Not proof. This is the stuff of conspiracy theories.

Dr. Crockford is either naïve or lying in regards to the impact of the University's Adjunct Professor policy change. The policy change was directed at all adjunct positions and for an understandable reason. The policy change required that an actual University paid employee holding an academic position take responsibility for the actions of the adjunct volunteer. It is totally understandable. Was there any evidence provided that Dr. Crockford was the only adjunct effected. I did not see any. What happened in terms of the number of adjunct positions before and after the policy change?? I would guess the number of adjunct positions in the university declined.

Even if the policy change effected only Dr. Crockford, her described impact of what would happen to her career was pure bull. You do not need an academic position in order to participate in the academic community. Presenting papers, applying for grants and receiving grants. I did it successfully my entire life. Canada is no different as far as I know.
Why don't you contact Dr. Crockford herself and ask her? Academic to academic :roll:

Meanwhile

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/clim ... niers.html

No agenda.....no narrative.......just good ole bashing calling someone a "denier" because they have different facts. Even the last sentence/paragraph of this hit job (is this another opinion piece :roll: ) states they have NO idea if polar bear population has increased (it has, at one subpop) decreased ( it has at 2 ), but the vast majority of populations of polar bears???????????????? No one knows

Of the 19 polar bear subpopulations in the Arctic Circle, three have shown substantial declines, including bears in the South Beaufort Sea off Alaska’s coast and in West Hudson Bay in Canada. One subpopulation has increased in numbers, and scientists know little or nothing about nine of the others, which are either in Russian territory or in locations so remote that resources are not available for surveys.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:10 pm
by runrussellrun
And boy, the comments on the NY Times article are scary.

Climate deniers should be fed to the polar bears.

such nice people

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:55 pm
by jhu72
Crockford's History with Polar Bears

Calling her an expert on Polar Bears is more bull, made up by the right wing media. Never published a peer reviewed article in ~15 years of so called study on the topic. She received monthly payments from the Heartland Institute, un-reported to the University and in her informal publications, between 2011 and 2013. This by itself is cause for dismissal from most universities -- un-reported conflict of interest. I can understand why no UVic professor would vouch for her. She is a fraud.

Adjunct professor is not meant to be a life long position for a young scientist. 15 years as an adjunct professor for someone who has never held another academic position says a lot about that adjunct professor. Not very good, not very serious. The position is generally used to fill funding gap years for young academics and to provide older, accomplished academics beyond the age of retirement with a place to hang their hat. Get a Ph.D. and spend the next 15 years as an adjunct is really abnormal. There are so many red flags with this woman. Of course the deniers aren't interested in this, they are only interested in the university association of the fraud.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:22 pm
by RedFromMI
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:55 pm Crockford's History with Polar Bears

Calling her an expert on Polar Bears is more bull, made up by the right wing media. Never published a peer reviewed article in ~15 years of so called study on the topic. She received monthly payments from the Heartland Institute, un-reported to the University and in her informal publications, between 2011 and 2013. This by itself is cause for dismissal from most universities -- un-reported conflict of interest. I can understand why no UVic professor would vouch for her. She is a fraud.

Adjunct professor is not meant to be a life long position for a young scientist. 15 years as an adjunct professor for someone who has never held another academic position says a lot about that adjunct professor. Not very good, not very serious. The position is generally used to fill funding gap years for young academics and to provide older, accomplished academics beyond the age of retirement with a place to hang their hat. Get a Ph.D. and spend the next 15 years as an adjunct is really abnormal. There are so many red flags with this woman. Of course the deniers aren't interested in this, they are only interested in the university association of the fraud.
Reading your link, it is clear that her only significant qualification is basically that she says she is an expert. No a bit else than that.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:54 am
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:27 pm Sorry guys, but this Dr. Crockford case is certainly a crock of something. I have read the posted article. There is no proof of anything. There is at most circumstantial evidence due to dates of two normally unrelated event streams lining up. Not proof. This is the stuff of conspiracy theories.

Dr. Crockford is either naïve or lying in regards to the impact of the University's Adjunct Professor policy change. The policy change was directed at all adjunct positions and for an understandable reason. The policy change required that an actual University paid employee holding an academic position take responsibility for the actions of the adjunct volunteer. It is totally understandable. Was there any evidence provided that Dr. Crockford was the only adjunct effected. I did not see any. What happened in terms of the number of adjunct positions before and after the policy change?? I would guess the number of adjunct positions in the university declined.

Even if the policy change effected only Dr. Crockford, her described impact of what would happen to her career was pure bull. You do not need an academic position in order to participate in the academic community. Presenting papers, applying for grants and receiving grants. I did it successfully my entire life. Canada is no different as far as I know.
Why don't you contact Dr. Crockford herself and ask her? Academic to academic :roll:

Meanwhile

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/clim ... niers.html

No agenda.....no narrative.......just good ole bashing calling someone a "denier" because they have different facts. Even the last sentence/paragraph of this hit job (is this another opinion piece :roll: ) states they have NO idea if polar bear population has increased (it has, at one subpop) decreased ( it has at 2 ), but the vast majority of populations of polar bears???????????????? No one knows

Of the 19 polar bear subpopulations in the Arctic Circle, three have shown substantial declines, including bears in the South Beaufort Sea off Alaska’s coast and in West Hudson Bay in Canada. One subpopulation has increased in numbers, and scientists know little or nothing about nine of the others, which are either in Russian territory or in locations so remote that resources are not available for surveys.
Blah blah blah.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:32 am
by Peter Brown
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:22 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:55 pm Crockford's History with Polar Bears

Calling her an expert on Polar Bears is more bull, made up by the right wing media. Never published a peer reviewed article in ~15 years of so called study on the topic. She received monthly payments from the Heartland Institute, un-reported to the University and in her informal publications, between 2011 and 2013. This by itself is cause for dismissal from most universities -- un-reported conflict of interest. I can understand why no UVic professor would vouch for her. She is a fraud.

Adjunct professor is not meant to be a life long position for a young scientist. 15 years as an adjunct professor for someone who has never held another academic position says a lot about that adjunct professor. Not very good, not very serious. The position is generally used to fill funding gap years for young academics and to provide older, accomplished academics beyond the age of retirement with a place to hang their hat. Get a Ph.D. and spend the next 15 years as an adjunct is really abnormal. There are so many red flags with this woman. Of course the deniers aren't interested in this, they are only interested in the university association of the fraud.
Reading your link, it is clear that her only significant qualification is basically that she says she is an expert. No a bit else than that.


It is revealing of the poster (in this case RedFromMI) when one would so cavalierly dismiss a person who has these qualifications:

Susan obtained a Bachelor of Science degree in Zoology from the University of B.C. in 1976 and a Doctorate from the University of Victoria in 2004. She has devoted most of her professional career to the improvement and use of the comparative collections at the Royal B.C. Museum (5 years) and the University of Victoria (30 years). Susan has undertaken the analysis of complex assemblages from both biological and archaeological contexts and her experience with the identification of all fauna of western North America is exceptional. In 1990, she initiated an osteometric analysis of indigenous dogs of the central NW coast, a project that expanded to include genetic analysis of DNA extracted from bone as well as research on domestication and evolutionary theory. The topic of her recent dissertation (the role of thyroid hormones in vertebrate domestication and speciation) is a subject she continues to pursue. Her research interests are broad and she is able to provide both technical and intellectual support for a wide variety of projects. She currently works full time for Pacific ID and holds an adjunct faculty position in the Departments of Anthropology and Graduate Studies at the University of Victoria. Susan has spent decades writing professional papers and books but has been blogging about polar bears for non-scientists since 2012. In 2015, she wrote her first novel, a polar bear attack thriller aimed at readers who prefer their science “lite.” EATEN. For 2017, she presents the two non-fiction volumes readers around the world have been requesting: straightforward science books about polar bears for adults and children that offer the same no nonsense, big-picture perspective on polar bear conservation that has made her blog and public lectures so popular. Susan is a professional zoologist who has studied the ecological history and evolution of many animals for more than 40 years, and has had a special interest in polar bears for at least half that time. A driving fascination with evolution (including the history of human-animal interactions) compels her to write. She has a Ph.D. and writes about the science of polar bears and related topics at www.polarbearscience.com. See more detailed publication history at www.pacificid.com under the Research tab.



For me, I always listen to the lonely calm voice in a room full of cackling know-nothings. But that's me.

RedFromMI however knows better than Susan so you should probably listen to him.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:46 am
by jhu72
RedFromMI is an actual academic scientist that knows how this stuff works. He actually has peer reviewed papers in his specialty. He has an actual paid position in a university. You want to talk about calm voices - that would be RedFromMI.

Not once in 15 years has this Dr. Crockford actually published a peer reviewed article. Expert academic researchers have peer reviewed articles in their areas of expertise. She is a fraud. Period.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:12 am
by Peter Brown
jhu72 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:46 am RedFromMI is an actual academic scientist that knows how this stuff works. He actually has peer reviewed papers in his specialty. He has an actual paid position in a university. You want to talk about calm voices - that would be RedFromMI.

Not once in 15 years has this Dr. Crockford actually published a peer reviewed article. Expert academics have peer reviewed articles in their areas of expertise. She is a fraud. Period.


Your professional envy of Crockford is duly noted; a glaring inability to respect women of different political stripes is sad. Thanks though!

(I'd mention that Alger Hiss is a graduate of Johnny Hop but that would be petty of me :lol: )

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:14 am
by jhu72
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:12 am
jhu72 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:46 am RedFromMI is an actual academic scientist that knows how this stuff works. He actually has peer reviewed papers in his specialty. He has an actual paid position in a university. You want to talk about calm voices - that would be RedFromMI.

Not once in 15 years has this Dr. Crockford actually published a peer reviewed article. Expert academics have peer reviewed articles in their areas of expertise. She is a fraud. Period.


Your professional envy of Crockford is duly noted; a glaring inability to respect women of different political stripes is sad. Thanks though!

(I'd mention that Alger Hiss is a graduate of Johnny Hop but that would be petty of me :lol: )
Typical - weak sauce. :roll:

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:15 am
by Typical Lax Dad
jhu72 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:46 am RedFromMI is an actual academic scientist that knows how this stuff works. He actually has peer reviewed papers in his specialty. He has an actual paid position in a university. You want to talk about calm voices - that would be RedFromMI.

Not once in 15 years has this Dr. Crockford actually published a peer reviewed article. Expert academic researchers have peer reviewed articles in their areas of expertise. She is a fraud. Period.
She stayed at a Holiday Inn Express

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:17 am
by ABV 8.3%
jhu72 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:46 am RedFromMI is an actual academic scientist that knows how this stuff works. He actually has peer reviewed papers in his specialty. He has an actual paid position in a university. You want to talk about calm voices - that would be RedFromMI.

Not once in 15 years has this Dr. Crockford actually published a peer reviewed article. Expert academic researchers have peer reviewed articles in their areas of expertise. She is a fraud. Period.
The issue is Polar Bear population. Can you steer us to peer reviewed research regarding this topic. (In other words, prove that Dr. Crockford is wrong)

No? Why is that? Because most of them are in Russia? Just blah blah blah, she is a doctor, but not OUR kind of doctor :roll:

Also, while we are at it, instead of responding with snark, provide substance instead, especially regarding the OTHER ny times article from 2016 and the clear agenda to bash anyone that doesn't follow along with Tom Steyer's billionare message.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:20 am
by ABV 8.3%
Typical - weak sauce. :roll:
She stayed at a Holiday Inn last nite.
blah, blah blah
AFAN, if someone responds to these types of posts, is the respondee "complaining", or, are the authors of such "constructive conversation" impervious to your rants of how to perform on these threads ?

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:32 am
by Typical Lax Dad
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:20 am
Typical - weak sauce. :roll:
She stayed at a Holiday Inn last nite.
blah, blah blah
AFAN, if someone responds to these types of posts, is the respondee "complaining", or, are the authors of such "constructive conversation" impervious to your rants of how to perform on these threads ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/clim ... niers.html

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:39 am
by Peter Brown
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:32 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:20 am
Typical - weak sauce. :roll:
She stayed at a Holiday Inn last nite.
blah, blah blah
AFAN, if someone responds to these types of posts, is the respondee "complaining", or, are the authors of such "constructive conversation" impervious to your rants of how to perform on these threads ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/clim ... niers.html



Riddle:

Is one a CC "Denialist" if one buys a multi-million $$ compound on a beach (won't the property be worthless soon? What do these morons know anyway!)? Asking for a few friends like Al Gore, Barrack Obama, Marc Lasry, Wes Edens, George Soros, Every Malibu Resident, every Hamptons DNC fundraiser, etc...

Also asking for any owner and user of private jets like Brad Pitt and every other woke Hollywood star including Jane Fonda.

Also asking for Sheila Jackson Lee who had a driver drive one block in DC every day; also asking for Nancy Pelosi who requested military jets to take her back and forth from SF.

Also asking...ahhhh you get it folks. It's a ruse to pry more $$ from you, shielded by well-meaning folks who want clean air and clean water. Follow da money...

But Crockford is the fool.