The Biden - Harris Era.

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Who dares to mock Dark Brandon now? Joe Biden keeps rolling up the wins
But Biden has turned out to be full of surprises. Rather than just acting as a kindly old caretaker president until the new generation can take the wheel, his administration has been a flurry of activity, passing more Democratic domestic legislation than any president since Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s. To name just a few, he signed into law the huge American Rescue Plan in the spring of 2021 (with no Republican votes); the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, with massive investments in climate policy and health care; the $280 billion CHIPS Act, funding a vital semiconductor industry in the U.S.; the PACT Act to help veterans; and the first federal gun control legislation in almost 30 years. In the big omnibus spending bill just passed during the lame-duck session, he got the Electoral Count Act included as a step toward avoiding another Jan. 6 debacle. Finally, Biden pushed through and signed the Respect for Marriage Act, offering at least some protection to same-sex couples against the inevitable assault from right-wing judges and legislators. Some of that legislation was even bipartisan, which seems like something out of an old black-and-white movie at this point.

These achievements really are impressive, and even more so because of the need to accommodate the two Senate divas — Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — who needed to be the center of attention at all times and who were unfortunately crucial to passing legislation. It was often torturous watching the Senate sausage-making, with Biden himself often appearing unable to manage the negotiations despite his alleged mastery of the process. But somehow it worked.
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dislaxxic wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:16 am Who dares to mock Dark Brandon now? Joe Biden keeps rolling up the wins
But Biden has turned out to be full of surprises. Rather than just acting as a kindly old caretaker president until the new generation can take the wheel, his administration has been a flurry of activity, passing more Democratic domestic legislation than any president since Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s. To name just a few, he signed into law the huge American Rescue Plan in the spring of 2021 (with no Republican votes); the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, with massive investments in climate policy and health care; the $280 billion CHIPS Act, funding a vital semiconductor industry in the U.S.; the PACT Act to help veterans; and the first federal gun control legislation in almost 30 years. In the big omnibus spending bill just passed during the lame-duck session, he got the Electoral Count Act included as a step toward avoiding another Jan. 6 debacle. Finally, Biden pushed through and signed the Respect for Marriage Act, offering at least some protection to same-sex couples against the inevitable assault from right-wing judges and legislators. Some of that legislation was even bipartisan, which seems like something out of an old black-and-white movie at this point.

These achievements really are impressive, and even more so because of the need to accommodate the two Senate divas — Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — who needed to be the center of attention at all times and who were unfortunately crucial to passing legislation. It was often torturous watching the Senate sausage-making, with Biden himself often appearing unable to manage the negotiations despite his alleged mastery of the process. But somehow it worked.
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Wins or just political points?
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:33 am
dislaxxic wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:16 am Who dares to mock Dark Brandon now? Joe Biden keeps rolling up the wins
But Biden has turned out to be full of surprises. Rather than just acting as a kindly old caretaker president until the new generation can take the wheel, his administration has been a flurry of activity, passing more Democratic domestic legislation than any president since Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s. To name just a few, he signed into law the huge American Rescue Plan in the spring of 2021 (with no Republican votes); the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, with massive investments in climate policy and health care; the $280 billion CHIPS Act, funding a vital semiconductor industry in the U.S.; the PACT Act to help veterans; and the first federal gun control legislation in almost 30 years. In the big omnibus spending bill just passed during the lame-duck session, he got the Electoral Count Act included as a step toward avoiding another Jan. 6 debacle. Finally, Biden pushed through and signed the Respect for Marriage Act, offering at least some protection to same-sex couples against the inevitable assault from right-wing judges and legislators. Some of that legislation was even bipartisan, which seems like something out of an old black-and-white movie at this point.

These achievements really are impressive, and even more so because of the need to accommodate the two Senate divas — Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — who needed to be the center of attention at all times and who were unfortunately crucial to passing legislation. It was often torturous watching the Senate sausage-making, with Biden himself often appearing unable to manage the negotiations despite his alleged mastery of the process. But somehow it worked.
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Wins or just political points?
A lot of those are actual 'wins', indeed for most of us they are wins.

Not talking perfection, just a heck of a lot more substance than most Presidents achieve in their first two years.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:33 am
dislaxxic wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:16 am Who dares to mock Dark Brandon now? Joe Biden keeps rolling up the wins
But Biden has turned out to be full of surprises. Rather than just acting as a kindly old caretaker president until the new generation can take the wheel, his administration has been a flurry of activity, passing more Democratic domestic legislation than any president since Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s. To name just a few, he signed into law the huge American Rescue Plan in the spring of 2021 (with no Republican votes); the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, with massive investments in climate policy and health care; the $280 billion CHIPS Act, funding a vital semiconductor industry in the U.S.; the PACT Act to help veterans; and the first federal gun control legislation in almost 30 years. In the big omnibus spending bill just passed during the lame-duck session, he got the Electoral Count Act included as a step toward avoiding another Jan. 6 debacle. Finally, Biden pushed through and signed the Respect for Marriage Act, offering at least some protection to same-sex couples against the inevitable assault from right-wing judges and legislators. Some of that legislation was even bipartisan, which seems like something out of an old black-and-white movie at this point.

These achievements really are impressive, and even more so because of the need to accommodate the two Senate divas — Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — who needed to be the center of attention at all times and who were unfortunately crucial to passing legislation. It was often torturous watching the Senate sausage-making, with Biden himself often appearing unable to manage the negotiations despite his alleged mastery of the process. But somehow it worked.
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Wins or just political points?
How about "actual accomplishments"?

It's what government is SUPPOSED to be doing. At least in the minds of those that feel that government is there to use tax money to improve the lives and opportunities of the citizens they govern. Would these types of things happen WITHOUT a government...or some entity that just gets out of the way and lets the private sector run the show??

Calling them "wins" brings a political tone to the discussion that is probably unnecessary when said and done...

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dislaxxic wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:06 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:33 am
dislaxxic wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:16 am Who dares to mock Dark Brandon now? Joe Biden keeps rolling up the wins
But Biden has turned out to be full of surprises. Rather than just acting as a kindly old caretaker president until the new generation can take the wheel, his administration has been a flurry of activity, passing more Democratic domestic legislation than any president since Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s. To name just a few, he signed into law the huge American Rescue Plan in the spring of 2021 (with no Republican votes); the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, with massive investments in climate policy and health care; the $280 billion CHIPS Act, funding a vital semiconductor industry in the U.S.; the PACT Act to help veterans; and the first federal gun control legislation in almost 30 years. In the big omnibus spending bill just passed during the lame-duck session, he got the Electoral Count Act included as a step toward avoiding another Jan. 6 debacle. Finally, Biden pushed through and signed the Respect for Marriage Act, offering at least some protection to same-sex couples against the inevitable assault from right-wing judges and legislators. Some of that legislation was even bipartisan, which seems like something out of an old black-and-white movie at this point.

These achievements really are impressive, and even more so because of the need to accommodate the two Senate divas — Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — who needed to be the center of attention at all times and who were unfortunately crucial to passing legislation. It was often torturous watching the Senate sausage-making, with Biden himself often appearing unable to manage the negotiations despite his alleged mastery of the process. But somehow it worked.
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Wins or just political points?
How about "actual accomplishments"?

It's what government is SUPPOSED to be doing. At least in the minds of those that feel that government is there to use tax money to improve the lives and opportunities of the citizens they govern. Would these types of things happen WITHOUT a government...or some entity that just gets out of the way and lets the private sector run the show??

Calling them "wins" brings a political tone to the discussion that is probably unnecessary when said and done...

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Maybe since Joe is on such a roll he can find a way to secure the southern border and pass immigration reform? No administration has been able to even attempt to accomplish that miracle since Reagan in the 80s. I'm even willing to give Joe a mulligan for effing up the withdrawal from Afghanistan. The folks on this forum already forgot about that little fiasco. :roll:
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:25 am
Maybe since Joe is on such a roll he can find a way to secure the southern border and pass immigration reform? No administration has been able to even attempt to accomplish that miracle since Reagan in the 80s. I'm even willing to give Joe a mulligan for effing up the withdrawal from Afghanistan. The folks on this forum already forgot about that little fiasco. :roll:

As we have previously discussed, unlike the mythical beliefs of our resident genius, Biden has stopped 2 million from entering illegally: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... l-arrests/


At least the genius admits that his fellow Repukeblicons from Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and his living god tRump all failed to do anything. But he forgets that Biden adhered to tRump's withdrawal timetable while conveniently blaming the President for tRump's loss of the war.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:25 am
dislaxxic wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:06 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:33 am
dislaxxic wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:16 am Who dares to mock Dark Brandon now? Joe Biden keeps rolling up the wins
But Biden has turned out to be full of surprises. Rather than just acting as a kindly old caretaker president until the new generation can take the wheel, his administration has been a flurry of activity, passing more Democratic domestic legislation than any president since Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s. To name just a few, he signed into law the huge American Rescue Plan in the spring of 2021 (with no Republican votes); the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, with massive investments in climate policy and health care; the $280 billion CHIPS Act, funding a vital semiconductor industry in the U.S.; the PACT Act to help veterans; and the first federal gun control legislation in almost 30 years. In the big omnibus spending bill just passed during the lame-duck session, he got the Electoral Count Act included as a step toward avoiding another Jan. 6 debacle. Finally, Biden pushed through and signed the Respect for Marriage Act, offering at least some protection to same-sex couples against the inevitable assault from right-wing judges and legislators. Some of that legislation was even bipartisan, which seems like something out of an old black-and-white movie at this point.

These achievements really are impressive, and even more so because of the need to accommodate the two Senate divas — Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — who needed to be the center of attention at all times and who were unfortunately crucial to passing legislation. It was often torturous watching the Senate sausage-making, with Biden himself often appearing unable to manage the negotiations despite his alleged mastery of the process. But somehow it worked.
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Wins or just political points?
How about "actual accomplishments"?

It's what government is SUPPOSED to be doing. At least in the minds of those that feel that government is there to use tax money to improve the lives and opportunities of the citizens they govern. Would these types of things happen WITHOUT a government...or some entity that just gets out of the way and lets the private sector run the show??

Calling them "wins" brings a political tone to the discussion that is probably unnecessary when said and done...

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Maybe since Joe is on such a roll he can find a way to secure the southern border and pass immigration reform? No administration has been able to even attempt to accomplish that miracle since Reagan in the 80s. I'm even willing to give Joe a mulligan for effing up the withdrawal from Afghanistan. The folks on this forum already forgot about that little fiasco. :roll:


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Fact check:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-845638742817

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/29/tru ... act-check/

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news ... 6b725d8482

The Trump executive order addressed only some diabetic patients needing insulin, most diabetics( the majority of whom are seniors) still had to pay $300 a month or more.

The Biden supported legislation codified this lower price for all seniors.

That's not enough, but it's a substantial start.

Note that this was opposed by the GOP, so it's unlikely that we will see more drug cost reform these next two years of divided government. Especially with the fringe whack jobs in control of the GOP House. (There are GOP moderates who would work bi-partisan on this, as its popular, but they won't be able to bring a vote to the floor).

Of course, if one thinks that it's great that US citizens and taxpayers pay markedly more for the exact same drugs than the rest of the world, then that probably is just fine
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The 64 thousand dollar question... will Joe Biden do the traditional interview with Fox before the super bowl on Sunday? If this was ABC, CBS or NBC it would already be a done deal. Will Joe have the temerity to sit with OPFOR and have a chat about the big game. His folks may despise the Fox network but as the leader of this country why won't he sit down with them and chat? What does Joe have to be afraid of?? The leader of this nation should not have to be afraid of anything. Go for it Joe. The Fox people may disagree with you but they don't bite. :D
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Kevin McCarthy calling Joe out...https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/sta ... 38E_9zDPsg
Kevin isn’t good at this stuff.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:37 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Kevin McCarthy calling Joe out...https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/sta ... 38E_9zDPsg
Kevin isn’t good at this stuff.
True, but the message conveyed by Joe was crystal clear.
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:40 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:37 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Kevin McCarthy calling Joe out...https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/sta ... 38E_9zDPsg
Kevin isn’t good at this stuff.
True, but the message conveyed by Joe was crystal clear.
Right, 100 years ago. Your team can’t govern.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:40 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:37 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Kevin McCarthy calling Joe out...https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/sta ... 38E_9zDPsg
Kevin isn’t good at this stuff.
True, but the message conveyed by Joe was crystal clear.
Right, 100 years ago. Your team can’t govern.
Makes it even worse. I see you took your blue pill this morning and it kicked in. ;) And no, the other blue pill. :lol:
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:37 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:40 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:37 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Kevin McCarthy calling Joe out...https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/sta ... 38E_9zDPsg
Kevin isn’t good at this stuff.
True, but the message conveyed by Joe was crystal clear.
Right, 100 years ago. Your team can’t govern.
Makes it even worse. I see you took your blue pill this morning and it kicked in. ;) And no, the other blue pill. :lol:
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Joe won the PR battle du jour. Give him credit when he does that because it doesn’t happen very often. Some numb nuts Republicans have said some dumb things about Social Security and Medicare, which opened the door for Joe. He masterfully walked right through it. And he doesn’t do things masterfully very often.

Obviously, nothing is going to happen to Social Security or Medicare in the next two years. Joe’s “I’ll veto it” comment makes for a good video snippet, but with the Senate in Democratic hands, there is zero chance any legislation cutting either will pass.

The truth is Social Security will need to be tinkered with periodically, maybe every few decades. It happened some years back and will have to happen again. Some combination of raising the retirement age, increasing the tax rate, and increasing the income limit (more than the formula currently in place). It is theoretically possible they would need to decrease the benefit amount for future retirees, but given inflation and the politics of it, I think that would be a last resort. As long as these tweaks to SS are done in small bites, it shouldn’t be a problem.

The 2024 election is, in theory, one the Republicans might be able to win. But they are shooting themselves in the foot left and right on important issues and demonstrating a breathtaking inability to govern. Oh, and then they are going to trot out as a candidate the guy who wanted to overthrow the government.
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Air space just locked down over Montana. Some strange sh!t going on.
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dislaxxic wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:06 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:33 am
dislaxxic wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:16 am Who dares to mock Dark Brandon now? Joe Biden keeps rolling up the wins
But Biden has turned out to be full of surprises. Rather than just acting as a kindly old caretaker president until the new generation can take the wheel, his administration has been a flurry of activity, passing more Democratic domestic legislation than any president since Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s. To name just a few, he signed into law the huge American Rescue Plan in the spring of 2021 (with no Republican votes); the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, with massive investments in climate policy and health care; the $280 billion CHIPS Act, funding a vital semiconductor industry in the U.S.; the PACT Act to help veterans; and the first federal gun control legislation in almost 30 years. In the big omnibus spending bill just passed during the lame-duck session, he got the Electoral Count Act included as a step toward avoiding another Jan. 6 debacle. Finally, Biden pushed through and signed the Respect for Marriage Act, offering at least some protection to same-sex couples against the inevitable assault from right-wing judges and legislators. Some of that legislation was even bipartisan, which seems like something out of an old black-and-white movie at this point.

These achievements really are impressive, and even more so because of the need to accommodate the two Senate divas — Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — who needed to be the center of attention at all times and who were unfortunately crucial to passing legislation. It was often torturous watching the Senate sausage-making, with Biden himself often appearing unable to manage the negotiations despite his alleged mastery of the process. But somehow it worked.
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Wins or just political points?
How about "actual accomplishments"?

It's what government is SUPPOSED to be doing. At least in the minds of those that feel that government is there to use tax money to improve the lives and opportunities of the citizens they govern. Would these types of things happen WITHOUT a government...or some entity that just gets out of the way and lets the private sector run the show??

Calling them "wins" brings a political tone to the discussion that is probably unnecessary when said and done...

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Didn’t see this before but yea when it’s titled “wins” then it’s fair to question the value and also importantly opportunity cost of the actions taken.

Improve opportunities - yes
Improve lives - sort of but not the way most would interpret that. Govt is around to administer but more importantly to utilize scale to share costs on common basic needs like defense, infrastructure etc. that being said they lost me when they tried to sell the infrastructure package as inflation reduction. It’s not what they intended when they set out or likely to be the outcomes therefor it is just more theater to me for the benefit of the people in the seats of politics and govt more than for their citizenry. If you do something you think is right then no spin or PR is necessary. Once politicos is played I don’t trust the substance of the effort and despise opacity.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:12 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:37 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:40 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:37 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:22 am Kevin McCarthy calling Joe out...https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/sta ... 38E_9zDPsg
Kevin isn’t good at this stuff.
True, but the message conveyed by Joe was crystal clear.
Right, 100 years ago. Your team can’t govern.
Makes it even worse. I see you took your blue pill this morning and it kicked in. ;) And no, the other blue pill. :lol:
What blue pills?
You mean you havent taken care of the Valentine’s Day gift for the old lady yet?

Here’s the instructional video on packaging

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live ... ox/3505985
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