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Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:36 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:07 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:03 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:58 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:46 am This 2nd wave of the virus is making Biden's contention that it was Trump's fault look pretty ridiculous. :

Not sure there is any logic present in that statement. The point is because we did not do enough to beat down the numbers to very low, we now have a completely widespread pandemic that is at this point out of control.

Abdication by Trump for leading an effective response remains a huge contribution to the problem, and the fact that the feds have not actually solved some of the PPE supply problem likely means this winter will be horrible for COVID cases/deaths.

And as far as anyone can tell, the coronavirus task force is not even meeting anymore...

They met Monday. Issued no statement or information. Chairman VP Pence left for vacation Tuesday.

Cooter, you didn't actually believe that statement did you?

I definitely believe it.
It is you who read the mainstream press who have been hoodwinked.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:58 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:46 am This 2nd wave of the virus is making Biden's contention that it was Trump's fault look pretty ridiculous. :

Not sure there is any logic present in that statement. The point is because we did not do enough to beat down the numbers to very low, we now have a completely widespread pandemic that is at this point out of control.

Abdication by Trump for leading an effective response remains a huge contribution to the problem, and the fact that the feds have not actually solved some of the PPE supply problem likely means this winter will be horrible for COVID cases/deaths.

And as far as anyone can tell, the coronavirus task force is not even meeting anymore...

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:42 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:58 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:46 am This 2nd wave of the virus is making Biden's contention that it was Trump's fault look pretty ridiculous. :

Not sure there is any logic present in that statement. The point is because we did not do enough to beat down the numbers to very low, we now have a completely widespread pandemic that is at this point out of control.

Abdication by Trump for leading an effective response remains a huge contribution to the problem, and the fact that the feds have not actually solved some of the PPE supply problem likely means this winter will be horrible for COVID cases/deaths.

And as far as anyone can tell, the coronavirus task force is not even meeting anymore...

Here is King Andy's solution here in NYS. All bars and restaurants must shut down by 10pm every night. That is when the young people leave those establishments pick up 6 packs to go and maybe some weed and proceed to the "private parties" at their friends house and party the night away. Instead of drinking in establishments that are using strict protocols King Andy is forcing the parties where there are no guidlines, no masks and no social distancing. When the numbers sky rocket every body scratches their heads and wonders why. Next step is to shutdown those bars and restaurants at 8pm, that will work...

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:46 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:42 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:58 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:46 am This 2nd wave of the virus is making Biden's contention that it was Trump's fault look pretty ridiculous. :

Not sure there is any logic present in that statement. The point is because we did not do enough to beat down the numbers to very low, we now have a completely widespread pandemic that is at this point out of control.

Abdication by Trump for leading an effective response remains a huge contribution to the problem, and the fact that the feds have not actually solved some of the PPE supply problem likely means this winter will be horrible for COVID cases/deaths.

And as far as anyone can tell, the coronavirus task force is not even meeting anymore...

Here is King Andy's solution here in NYS. All bars and restaurants must shut down by 10pm every night. That is when the young people leave those establishments pick up 6 packs to go and maybe some weed and proceed to the "private parties" at their friends house and party the night away. Instead of drinking in establishments that are using strict protocols King Andy is forcing the parties where there are no guidlines, no masks and no social distancing. When the numbers sky rocket every body scratches their heads and wonders why. Next step is to shutdown those bars and restaurants at 8pm, that will work...

The numbers skyrocketed the last time bars and restaurants were shutdown. You seem like “the kids can drink in my basement” type.

‘No One Is Listening to Us’
More people than ever are hospitalized with COVID-19. Health-care workers can’t go on like this.

On Saturday morning, Megan Ranney was about to put on her scrubs when she heard that Joe Biden had won the presidential election. That day, she treated people with COVID-19 while street parties erupted around the country. She was still in the ER in the late evening when Biden and Vice President–elect Kamala Harris made their victory speeches. These days, her shifts at Rhode Island Hospital are long, and they “are not going to change in the next 73 days,” before Biden becomes president, she told me on Monday. Every time Ranney returns to the hospital, there are more COVID-19 patients.

In the months since March, many Americans have habituated to the horrors of the pandemic. They process the election’s ramifications. They plan for the holidays. But health-care workers do not have the luxury of looking away: They’re facing a third pandemic surge that is bigger and broader than the previous two. In the U.S., states now report more people in the hospital with COVID-19 than at any other point this year—and 40 percent more than just two weeks ago.

Emergency rooms are starting to fill again with COVID-19 patients. Utah, where Nathan Hatton is a pulmonary specialist at the University of Utah Hospital, is currently reporting 2,500 confirmed cases a day, roughly four times its summer peak. Hatton says that his intensive-care unit is housing twice as many patients as it normally does. His shifts usually last 12 to 24 hours, but can stretch to 36. “There are times I’ll come in in the morning, see patients, work that night, work all the next day, and then go home,” he told me. I asked him how many such shifts he has had to do. “Too many,” he said.

Hospitals have put their pandemic plans into action, adding more beds and creating makeshift COVID-19 wards. But in the hardest-hit areas, there are simply not enough doctors, nurses, and other specialists to staff those beds. Some health-care workers told me that COVID-19 patients are the sickest people they’ve ever cared for: They require twice as much attention as a typical intensive-care-unit patient, for three times the normal length of stay. “It was doable over the summer, but now it’s just too much,” says Whitney Neville, a nurse based in Iowa. “Last Monday we had 25 patients waiting in the emergency department. They had been admitted but there was no one to take care of them.” I asked her how much slack the system has left. “There is none,” she said.

The entire state of Iowa is now out of staffed beds, Eli Perencevich, an infectious-disease doctor at the University of Iowa, told me. Worse is coming. Iowa is accumulating more than 3,600 confirmed cases every day; relative to its population, that’s more than twice the rate Arizona experienced during its summer peak, “when their system was near collapse,” Perencevich said. With only lax policies in place, those cases will continue to rise. Hospitalizations lag behind cases by about two weeks; by Thanksgiving, today’s soaring cases will be overwhelming hospitals that already cannot cope. “The wave hasn’t even crashed down on us yet,” Perencevich said. “It keeps rising and rising, and we’re all running on fear. The health-care system in Iowa is going to collapse, no question.”

In the imminent future, patients will start to die because there simply aren’t enough people to care for them. Doctors and nurses will burn out. The most precious resource the U.S. health-care system has in the struggle against COVID-19 isn’t some miracle drug. It’s the expertise of its health-care workers—and they are exhausted.

US coronavirus cases for each day in November:

Nov. 1: 76,771
Nov. 2: 86,589
Nov. 3: 91,910
Nov. 4: 104,296
Nov. 5: 121,289
Nov. 6: 126,731
Nov. 7: 125,100
Nov. 8: 109,177
Nov. 9: 133,819
Nov. 10: 131,990
Nov. 11: 148,302
Nov. 12: 161,651

More than 130 Secret Service officers are said to be infected with coronavirus or quarantining in wake of Trump’s campaign travel

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:26 am https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

More than 130 Secret Service officers are said to be infected with coronavirus or quarantining in wake of Trump’s campaign travel

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:03 am Chairman VP Pence left for vacation Tuesday.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:21 am From NBC News:

US coronavirus cases for each day in November:

Nov. 1: 76,771
Nov. 2: 86,589
Nov. 3: 91,910
Nov. 4: 104,296
Nov. 5: 121,289
Nov. 6: 126,731
Nov. 7: 125,100
Nov. 8: 109,177
Nov. 9: 133,819
Nov. 10: 131,990
Nov. 11: 148,302
Nov. 12: 161,651

As you can see, it is just disappearing after the election...

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:21 am From NBC News:

US coronavirus cases for each day in November:

Nov. 1: 76,771
Nov. 2: 86,589
Nov. 3: 91,910
Nov. 4: 104,296
Nov. 5: 121,289
Nov. 6: 126,731
Nov. 7: 125,100
Nov. 8: 109,177
Nov. 9: 133,819
Nov. 10: 131,990
Nov. 11: 148,302
Nov. 12: 161,651

As you can see, it is just disappearing after the election...

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:11 am

‘No One Is Listening to Us’
More people than ever are hospitalized with COVID-19. Health-care workers can’t go on like this.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... rs/617091/

On Saturday morning, Megan Ranney was about to put on her scrubs when she heard that Joe Biden had won the presidential election. That day, she treated people with COVID-19 while street parties erupted around the country. She was still in the ER in the late evening when Biden and Vice President–elect Kamala Harris made their victory speeches. These days, her shifts at Rhode Island Hospital are long, and they “are not going to change in the next 73 days,” before Biden becomes president, she told me on Monday. Every time Ranney returns to the hospital, there are more COVID-19 patients.

In the months since March, many Americans have habituated to the horrors of the pandemic. They process the election’s ramifications. They plan for the holidays. But health-care workers do not have the luxury of looking away: They’re facing a third pandemic surge that is bigger and broader than the previous two. In the U.S., states now report more people in the hospital with COVID-19 than at any other point this year—and 40 percent more than just two weeks ago.

Emergency rooms are starting to fill again with COVID-19 patients. Utah, where Nathan Hatton is a pulmonary specialist at the University of Utah Hospital, is currently reporting 2,500 confirmed cases a day, roughly four times its summer peak. Hatton says that his intensive-care unit is housing twice as many patients as it normally does. His shifts usually last 12 to 24 hours, but can stretch to 36. “There are times I’ll come in in the morning, see patients, work that night, work all the next day, and then go home,” he told me. I asked him how many such shifts he has had to do. “Too many,” he said.

Hospitals have put their pandemic plans into action, adding more beds and creating makeshift COVID-19 wards. But in the hardest-hit areas, there are simply not enough doctors, nurses, and other specialists to staff those beds. Some health-care workers told me that COVID-19 patients are the sickest people they’ve ever cared for: They require twice as much attention as a typical intensive-care-unit patient, for three times the normal length of stay. “It was doable over the summer, but now it’s just too much,” says Whitney Neville, a nurse based in Iowa. “Last Monday we had 25 patients waiting in the emergency department. They had been admitted but there was no one to take care of them.” I asked her how much slack the system has left. “There is none,” she said.

The entire state of Iowa is now out of staffed beds, Eli Perencevich, an infectious-disease doctor at the University of Iowa, told me. Worse is coming. Iowa is accumulating more than 3,600 confirmed cases every day; relative to its population, that’s more than twice the rate Arizona experienced during its summer peak, “when their system was near collapse,” Perencevich said. With only lax policies in place, those cases will continue to rise. Hospitalizations lag behind cases by about two weeks; by Thanksgiving, today’s soaring cases will be overwhelming hospitals that already cannot cope. “The wave hasn’t even crashed down on us yet,” Perencevich said. “It keeps rising and rising, and we’re all running on fear. The health-care system in Iowa is going to collapse, no question.”

In the imminent future, patients will start to die because there simply aren’t enough people to care for them. Doctors and nurses will burn out. The most precious resource the U.S. health-care system has in the struggle against COVID-19 isn’t some miracle drug. It’s the expertise of its health-care workers—and they are exhausted.

There is no slack left in the system - and the numbers in the US just keep rising. And preciously little is being done at the federal level other than wait on vaccines (which won't help for months)...

Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:00 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:21 am From NBC News:

US coronavirus cases for each day in November:

Nov. 1: 76,771
Nov. 2: 86,589
Nov. 3: 91,910
Nov. 4: 104,296
Nov. 5: 121,289
Nov. 6: 126,731
Nov. 7: 125,100
Nov. 8: 109,177
Nov. 9: 133,819
Nov. 10: 131,990
Nov. 11: 148,302
Nov. 12: 161,651

As you can see, it is just disappearing after the election...

All those Biden victory celebrations.
Super spreader events!

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:16 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:11 am

‘No One Is Listening to Us’
More people than ever are hospitalized with COVID-19. Health-care workers can’t go on like this.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... rs/617091/

On Saturday morning, Megan Ranney was about to put on her scrubs when she heard that Joe Biden had won the presidential election. That day, she treated people with COVID-19 while street parties erupted around the country. She was still in the ER in the late evening when Biden and Vice President–elect Kamala Harris made their victory speeches. These days, her shifts at Rhode Island Hospital are long, and they “are not going to change in the next 73 days,” before Biden becomes president, she told me on Monday. Every time Ranney returns to the hospital, there are more COVID-19 patients.

In the months since March, many Americans have habituated to the horrors of the pandemic. They process the election’s ramifications. They plan for the holidays. But health-care workers do not have the luxury of looking away: They’re facing a third pandemic surge that is bigger and broader than the previous two. In the U.S., states now report more people in the hospital with COVID-19 than at any other point this year—and 40 percent more than just two weeks ago.

Emergency rooms are starting to fill again with COVID-19 patients. Utah, where Nathan Hatton is a pulmonary specialist at the University of Utah Hospital, is currently reporting 2,500 confirmed cases a day, roughly four times its summer peak. Hatton says that his intensive-care unit is housing twice as many patients as it normally does. His shifts usually last 12 to 24 hours, but can stretch to 36. “There are times I’ll come in in the morning, see patients, work that night, work all the next day, and then go home,” he told me. I asked him how many such shifts he has had to do. “Too many,” he said.

Hospitals have put their pandemic plans into action, adding more beds and creating makeshift COVID-19 wards. But in the hardest-hit areas, there are simply not enough doctors, nurses, and other specialists to staff those beds. Some health-care workers told me that COVID-19 patients are the sickest people they’ve ever cared for: They require twice as much attention as a typical intensive-care-unit patient, for three times the normal length of stay. “It was doable over the summer, but now it’s just too much,” says Whitney Neville, a nurse based in Iowa. “Last Monday we had 25 patients waiting in the emergency department. They had been admitted but there was no one to take care of them.” I asked her how much slack the system has left. “There is none,” she said.

The entire state of Iowa is now out of staffed beds, Eli Perencevich, an infectious-disease doctor at the University of Iowa, told me. Worse is coming. Iowa is accumulating more than 3,600 confirmed cases every day; relative to its population, that’s more than twice the rate Arizona experienced during its summer peak, “when their system was near collapse,” Perencevich said. With only lax policies in place, those cases will continue to rise. Hospitalizations lag behind cases by about two weeks; by Thanksgiving, today’s soaring cases will be overwhelming hospitals that already cannot cope. “The wave hasn’t even crashed down on us yet,” Perencevich said. “It keeps rising and rising, and we’re all running on fear. The health-care system in Iowa is going to collapse, no question.”

In the imminent future, patients will start to die because there simply aren’t enough people to care for them. Doctors and nurses will burn out. The most precious resource the U.S. health-care system has in the struggle against COVID-19 isn’t some miracle drug. It’s the expertise of its health-care workers—and they are exhausted.

There is no slack left in the system - and the numbers in the US just keep rising. And preciously little is being done at the federal level other than wait on vaccines (which won't help for months)...

... healthcare workers I know are ticked. They need to hold a national sick out for two weeks. If the patients don't care, why should they?

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:17 pm
Meh. That's just fear porn. F them, right?

Oh, and these States don't need Federal funding. Let them go it on their own. Because government is bad.

Happy, TrumpFans?

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:26 am https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

More than 130 Secret Service officers are said to be infected with coronavirus or quarantining in wake of Trump’s campaign travel

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:51 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:26 am https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

More than 130 Secret Service officers are said to be infected with coronavirus or quarantining in wake of Trump’s campaign travel

That's a good sized immune herd to draw from for protective details, ....& growing every day.

I'll be interested to learn what % of the TR crew returned from cruise with antibodies.