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Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:10 am
by runrussellrun
AFAN, shocked that you are missing the point. Posters were wondering why it was a big deal, in the PC world, and others pointed out that FOX news was making it a big deal. ONLY them. Then the links to the usual suspects. That's all.

To me, isn't the first woman enough? Isn't it the liberal way to stay out of peoples bedrooms? I agree. Why do you (collective) you keep on dragging me back into it. As long as it's legal, I don't care what you do in your bedroom. Ahhh....but the parading and flag waving ensues.

From one of my favorite movies........WHO CARES (at the end)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdbs3lKEeBE

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:12 am
by 6ftstick
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:10 am AFAN, shocked that you are missing the point. Posters were wondering why it was a big deal, in the PC world, and others pointed out that FOX news was making it a big deal. ONLY them. Then the links to the usual suspects. That's all.

To me, isn't the first woman enough? Isn't it the liberal way to stay out of peoples bedrooms? I agree. Why do you (collective) you keep on dragging me back into it. As long as it's legal, I don't care what you do in your bedroom. Ahhh....but the parading and flag waving ensues.

From one of my favorite movies........WHO CARES (at the end)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdbs3lKEeBE
A fan knows if we were to mention that she was a black lesbian we'd be labeled a racist homophobe IMMEDIATELY. And our lives would be ruined.

Criticise this new Mayor and that's exactly what will happen to whoever tries.

Liberals pooh pooh any criticism of the pc culture but you d*mn well better think and act the way it tells you to.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:39 am
by Typical Lax Dad
6ftstick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:39 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:45 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:37 pm
6ftstick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:08 pm
foreverlax wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:00 am
6ftstick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:53 am SO why does it matter that the new Mayor of Chicago is black and openly gay.

Thought that stuff wasn't supposed to matter.

Thats what the media pounds into our heads telling us all how to think and behave.

Then starts every article about her with her color and sexual preference.
ask Fox....
Lori Lightfoot makes history, wins Chicago mayoral race

Apr. 03, 2019 - 1:41 - 56-year-old Lori Lightfoot, a former federal prosecutor who has never held public office, defeats longtime city council member Toni Preckwinkle to become the first black woman and the first openly gay person to lead Chicago.
or NBC
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lo ... an-n990266

or CBS
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chicago-ma ... 019-04-02/

or USA today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 352815002/

or bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... olitics-vp

or the NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/l ... icago.html

even aljazeera
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/ ... 59387.html
wouldn't it be nice if just once, people replied. "I'm sorry.....you are right" on these threads? Especially after proving them wrong?

Just once.

Also, all these news stories say "openly gay" as if to imply that a former mayor was a closet homosexual. Not open.
Openly gay means you just that....otherwise who would know one way or the other......sort of like openly racist would leave no doubt.....(not meant for you btw just an analogy)
When did you stop beating your wife?
I haven’t.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:33 am
by foreverlax
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:10 am Posters were wondering why it was a big deal, in the PC world, and others pointed out that FOX news was making it a big deal. ONLY them.

........WHO CARES (at the end)

The point of my post, which seems to be the one that has you so upset, was to show that Fox was also covering the story in a similar fashion as the so-called, MSM.

Who cares? Not me....

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:37 am
by foreverlax
6ftstick wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:12 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:10 am AFAN, shocked that you are missing the point. Posters were wondering why it was a big deal, in the PC world, and others pointed out that FOX news was making it a big deal. ONLY them. Then the links to the usual suspects. That's all.

To me, isn't the first woman enough? Isn't it the liberal way to stay out of peoples bedrooms? I agree. Why do you (collective) you keep on dragging me back into it. As long as it's legal, I don't care what you do in your bedroom. Ahhh....but the parading and flag waving ensues.

From one of my favorite movies........WHO CARES (at the end)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdbs3lKEeBE
A fan knows if we were to mention that she was a black lesbian we'd be labeled a racist homophobe IMMEDIATELY. And our lives would be ruined.

Criticise this new Mayor and that's exactly what will happen to whoever tries.

Liberals pooh pooh any criticism of the pc culture but you d*mn well better think and act the way it tells you to.
That is ridiculous...she is like a new bride, special. Once the honeymoon is over, she will be just another wife.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:07 am
by SCLaxAttack
How soon we forget....

The old LP threads were filled with statements that criticism of Obama was race-based. Jimmy Carter came right out and declared that.

People will use her race and sexual orientation to criticize and dismiss her critics from the get-go.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:39 am
by jhu72
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:39 am
6ftstick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:39 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:45 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:37 pm
6ftstick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:08 pm
foreverlax wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:00 am
6ftstick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:53 am SO why does it matter that the new Mayor of Chicago is black and openly gay.

Thought that stuff wasn't supposed to matter.

Thats what the media pounds into our heads telling us all how to think and behave.

Then starts every article about her with her color and sexual preference.
ask Fox....
Lori Lightfoot makes history, wins Chicago mayoral race

Apr. 03, 2019 - 1:41 - 56-year-old Lori Lightfoot, a former federal prosecutor who has never held public office, defeats longtime city council member Toni Preckwinkle to become the first black woman and the first openly gay person to lead Chicago.
or NBC
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lo ... an-n990266

or CBS
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chicago-ma ... 019-04-02/

or USA today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 352815002/

or bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... olitics-vp

or the NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/l ... icago.html

even aljazeera
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/ ... 59387.html
wouldn't it be nice if just once, people replied. "I'm sorry.....you are right" on these threads? Especially after proving them wrong?

Just once.

Also, all these news stories say "openly gay" as if to imply that a former mayor was a closet homosexual. Not open.
Openly gay means you just that....otherwise who would know one way or the other......sort of like openly racist would leave no doubt.....(not meant for you btw just an analogy)
When did you stop beating your wife?
I haven’t.
Ah, so you have one that likes it rough heh. Me too. ;)

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:23 am
by a fan
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:07 am How soon we forget....

The old LP threads were filled with statements that criticism of Obama was race-based.
Filled? Filled? Please.

Outside of DocB, I can't recall a time when one poster called another's criticism of Obama, racist. That's one heckuva thing to say to a fellow poster.

The criticism of Obama was indeed party based. That much we all know now. Nearly every domestic complaint--and many foreign policy complaints--- made about his policies has gone quiet when Trump has done the same thing or worse. Deficit. Spending. Hand outs. Socialism. Union bail outs. And on and on.

Mostly those who criticized Obama were shown to be completely full of crap in about six months of having a President with a little R by his name.

Posters called bullcookies on most criticisms of Obama. Surely you agree after 2 years of Trump that they were right to do so....

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:26 am
by a fan
6ftstick wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:12 am [A fan knows if we were to mention that she was a black lesbian we'd be labeled a racist homophobe IMMEDIATELY. And our lives would be ruined.

Criticise this new Mayor and that's exactly what will happen to whoever tries.

Liberals pooh pooh any criticism of the pc culture but you d*mn well better think and act the way it tells you to.
:lol: :lol: Right. Have a look at how the media is handling the corrupt POS Mayor of Baltimore and her grift. They're hammering her, and rightly so. FoxNation needs to stop with this "libs get a pass" nonsense.

Want to talk about some of the people and institutions that right wing Americans have, and still do, give a PC pass? It's not pretty.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:26 am
by dislaxxic
a fan wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:23 amPosters called bullcookies on most criticisms of Obama. Surely you agree after 2 years of Trump that they were right to do so....
Waiting....waiting... :roll:

..

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:59 pm
by HooDat
I am sorry, but the first openly gay mayor of a major city was Annise Parker.

The media may not ALWAYS lie. But they are always lazy, and bringing an agenda to the table....

smh.... and they wonder why Trump get's elected shouting FAKE NEWS

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:23 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
HooDat wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:59 pm I am sorry, but the first openly gay mayor of a major city was Annise Parker.

The media may not ALWAYS lie. But they are always lazy, and bringing an agenda to the table....

smh.... and they wonder why Trump get's elected shouting FAKE NEWS
Annise Parker was Mayor of Chicago?

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:51 pm
by a fan
HooDat wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:59 pm The media may not ALWAYS lie. But they are always lazy, and bringing an agenda to the table....
They always have. The difference is, some right wing Americans are outraged that it's not 100% their agenda anymore that's being crammed down everyone's throats.

What they think is: the media, which catered to them almost completely, was unbiased and fantastic before.

This is, obviously, utter nonsense.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:41 pm
by HooDat
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:23 pm
HooDat wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:59 pm I am sorry, but the first openly gay mayor of a major city was Annise Parker.

The media may not ALWAYS lie. But they are always lazy, and bringing an agenda to the table....

smh.... and they wonder why Trump get's elected shouting FAKE NEWS
Annise Parker was Mayor of Chicago?
Houston

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:42 pm
by HooDat
a fan wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:51 pm
HooDat wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:59 pm The media may not ALWAYS lie. But they are always lazy, and bringing an agenda to the table....
They always have. The difference is, some right wing Americans are outraged that it's not 100% their agenda anymore that's being crammed down everyone's throats.

What they think is: the media, which catered to them almost completely, was unbiased and fantastic before.

This is, obviously, utter nonsense.
I agree that it is political opportunism that led to Trump seizing on the phrase, but what time period do you think the media has been conservatively biased?

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:09 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
HooDat wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:41 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:23 pm
HooDat wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:59 pm I am sorry, but the first openly gay mayor of a major city was Annise Parker.

The media may not ALWAYS lie. But they are always lazy, and bringing an agenda to the table....

smh.... and they wonder why Trump get's elected shouting FAKE NEWS
Annise Parker was Mayor of Chicago?
Houston
That is what I thought. Most of the articles I saw mentioned Lightfoot as being the "first openly gay and black woman elected as Mayor of Chicago"... some lazy journalists may have slipped but I had not read where she was the first "openly gay Mayor of a major city".... personally, I don't give a rat's *ss one way or the other. Humans are humans.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:06 pm
by HooDat
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:09 pm personally, I don't give a rat's *ss one way or the other. Humans are humans.
BINGO!! amen brother....

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:31 pm
by a fan
HooDat wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:42 pm I agree that it is political opportunism that led to Trump seizing on the phrase, but what time period do you think the media has been conservatively biased?
1789-1960. The 60's heralded the arrival of the modern liberal. Media was slowly pulled to the center.

Know what year the NY Times Op-Ed page arrived? 1970. Not a coincidence.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:59 pm
by HooDat
a fan wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:31 pm
HooDat wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:42 pm I agree that it is political opportunism that led to Trump seizing on the phrase, but what time period do you think the media has been conservatively biased?
1789-1960. The 60's heralded the arrival of the modern liberal. Media was slowly pulled to the center.

Know what year the NY Times Op-Ed page arrived? 1970. Not a coincidence.
from what little I saw in my history books of newspapers in the 1800's it was mostly muckracking for whatever side was paying... I guess if you identify the conservatives with the money'd then I guess you are right, but I think the terms as we use them today did not really exist back then....

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:58 pm
by a fan
True to an extent. But wild eyed libs...or women or minorities....certainly didn't control the narrative coming off the presses in the decades leading to the 70's. Various conservative white men ran things.