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Re: My top 25

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:54 pm
by af.health
Yale was not the NC in 2019

Re: My top 25

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:00 pm
by rolldodge
af.health wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:54 pm Yale was not the NC in 2019
You are right. My bad. Runners up.

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:15 pm
by joewillie78
My Top 25 as of April 22nd, and no disrespect to Utah, Cleveland State, but I just can't stay awake that long:

1. Notre Dame
2. Duke
3. Johns Hopkins
4. Penn state
5. Cornell
6. Virginia
7. Georgetown
8. Maryland
9. Yale
10. Army
11. Denver
12. Penn
13. Villanova
14. Delaware
15. Princeton
16. Rutgers
17. Syracuse
18. Boston University
19. Utah
20. North Carolina
21. St. Joseph's
22. Jacksonville
23. Air Force
24. Richmond
25. Michigan

Great day of LAX Today.
Gobigred
Joewillie78

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:36 pm
by Crease Crank
Just a reminder as everyone starts to share your rankings. The 3rd place team in the B1G beat UVA and took ND to 3 overtime’s. Don’t let some in the media or Ossello influence your decisions. Do what’s right.

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:40 pm
by 44WeWantMore
Unfortunately the team with the second-best record in B1G conference play was uncompetitive with not only UVA, but also UNC.

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:41 pm
by CU77
joewillie78 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:15 pm 3. John's
*sigh*

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:44 pm
by joewillie78
CU77 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:41 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:15 pm 3. John's
*sigh*
Johns?
Gobigred
Joewillie78

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:46 pm
by 10stone5
joewillie78 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:44 pm
CU77 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:41 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:15 pm 3. John's
*sigh*
Johns?
Gobigred
Joewillie78
:)

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:51 pm
by Bluecollar
1. ND
2. Duke
3. Hop
4. Penn State
5. Cornell
6. UVA
7. Hoyas
8. Maryland
9. Army
10. Nova
11. Penn
12. Yale
13. Denver
14. Delaware
15. Cuse
16. UNC
17.Utah
18. Rutgers
19. Princeton
20. J-ville

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:56 pm
by Gatsby
Crease Crank wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:36 pm Just a reminder as everyone starts to share your rankings. The 3rd place team in the B1G beat UVA and took ND to 3 overtime’s. Don’t let some in the media or Ossello influence your decisions. Do what’s right.
And also don't forget that the first place B1G team lost to the last place ACC team (UNC) and 3rd place ACC team (UVA).

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:58 pm
by Crease Crank
Gatsby wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:56 pm
Crease Crank wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:36 pm Just a reminder as everyone starts to share your rankings. The 3rd place team in the B1G beat UVA and took ND to 3 overtime’s. Don’t let some in the media or Ossello influence your decisions. Do what’s right.
And also don't forget that the first place B1G team lost to the last place ACC team (UNC) and 3rd place ACC team (UVA).
Penn State???

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:59 pm
by joewillie78
Crease Crank wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:36 pm Just a reminder as everyone starts to share your rankings. The 3rd place team in the B1G beat UVA and took ND to 3 overtime’s. Don’t let some in the media or Ossello influence your decisions. Do what’s right.
What or Who is an Ossello?
Gobigred
Joewillie78

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:05 pm
by Crease Crank
joewillie78 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:59 pm
Crease Crank wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:36 pm Just a reminder as everyone starts to share your rankings. The 3rd place team in the B1G beat UVA and took ND to 3 overtime’s. Don’t let some in the media or Ossello influence your decisions. Do what’s right.
What or Who is an Ossello?
Gobigred
Joewillie78
Former Notre Dame lacrosse great, podcast professional with a totally non biased opinion.

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:06 pm
by stupefied
There are several good teams but no great team this year . Any top ten team has a chance to win it

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:20 pm
by Gatsby
Crease Crank wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:05 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:59 pm
Crease Crank wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:36 pm Just a reminder as everyone starts to share your rankings. The 3rd place team in the B1G beat UVA and took ND to 3 overtime’s. Don’t let some in the media or Ossello influence your decisions. Do what’s right.
What or Who is an Ossello?
Gobigred
Joewillie78
Former Notre Dame lacrosse great, podcast professional with a totally non biased opinion.
JHU & PSU have identical 4-1 records at the top of the B1G standings. Ossello was never a great at ND. A not bad, if anything.

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:07 pm
by keno in reno
stupefied wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:06 pm There are several good teams but no great team this year . Any top ten team has a chance to win it
Uva and Duke represent about 75% of that chance. Notre Dame maybe 20%. Sure the remaining 7 teams have a statistical chance, but they're all far behind UVA and Duke when it will matrer.

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:23 pm
by 10stone5
keno in reno wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:07 pm
stupefied wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:06 pm There are several good teams but no great team this year . Any top ten team has a chance to win it
Uva and Duke represent about 75% of that chance. Notre Dame maybe 20%. Sure the remaining 7 teams have a statistical chance, but they're all far behind UVA and Duke when it will matrer.
So the ACC has a 95% chance of winning the title, huh ?

I’m seeing those three at about 45% composite probability,
Cornell at approx. 10%,
B1G top 3 at about 15%,

so, that’s 30% spread out among any number of teams including Georgetown,

last year Maryland’s probability was 60% to win the title,
no one this year is anywhere near that number —

— so wide wide open, any number of teams, including the top 3 ACCs could win it,

there is no one team anywhere close to Maryland in terms of completeness,

every team has a or several serious flaws which someone will try and exploit, of course.

Re: My top 25

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:11 am
by Ezra White
Cornell’s probability went up significantly when Mike Long started playing regularly. So, one can’t judge their chances without treating the games in which he didn’t play as different from the ones in which he did play. (Cornell won all of the latter, with much better statistics.)

I don’t follow any other team so closely. So, I don’t know if another team is in a similar situation or not.

Re: My top 25

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:04 am
by Burntheboats20
Heck why not, figured I’d take my own first go at the current top 20 (feel like 20-25 is throwing darts). I’m sure there is some glaring omission here, so apologies in advance.

NCAA LAX TOP 20

1. Notre Dame - ball movement like you dream about
2. UVA - top end talent and physicality
3. Duke - honestly haven’t watched a ton of them, but the resume speaks for itself
4. Hopkins - appear to be back
5. Georgetown - not the same team that started 0-3
6. Cornell - could be higher but can’t get over the Harvard L
7. Penn State - don’t love the Nova & Marquette loses
8. Maryland - team feels bipolar, could beat #1 and lose to #20 on any given day

(Insert Gap here - I think the top 8 is fairly clear cut from the next 12)

9. Denver - another team I feel could put two very different performances up depending on the day
10. Penn - more losses than some behind them, but none of which feel too bad
11. Yale - good thing RPI doesn’t look at the scoreboard
12. Army - who have they beaten?
13. Nova - The GTown game should be very telling as to whether this team is the same one that beat Penn State to start the season
14. Rutgers - Don’t love any of the wins but don’t hate any of the losses
15. ‘Cuse - giving them some credit for the tough schedule and staying close in most games
16. Princeton - I want to put them at 15, but will give Cuse credit for the H2H win
17. Delaware - could be an upset pick in the first round off the AQ
18. UNC - pretty much here because of the Hopkins win
19. BU - Army will be the chance for them to make a statement heading into the Patriot League tourney
20. Michigan - 5/6 losses and 2 wins have come against teams listed above

Re: My top 25

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:55 am
by CU77
These are great one-line descriptions! (And can't argue with any of them ...)