Hobart 2023

[Farfromgeneva]

We've anticipated some tough rebuilding years in the past. Same situation this year. Especially with Madonna gone. But We've had some nice surprises in those years too. A 2 win season is possible, but if a few 2 point games swing in our direction, it could be a good year in a tough league. They have nothing to lose and expectations are low. It is a wonderful coaching opportunity. And we'll see some new guys get a chance to show their stuff. With our returning D I expect us to be in games until the end, but which O players will take us to the W? It'll be exciting to find out.

Goalie, wing and SSDM. Need consistency at goal. Need our excellent fogos to get some help off the draws and can’t be bullied by larger and more athletic opposing midfielders.

Solving for a feeder from behind the cage would be helpful as well. Ward or Barthelme maybe?

The difference between a 2016 team and a 2018 team.

I believe we have the LSM and close D to compete for an A10 title.

[Ketch]

That’s a pretty daunting schedule. Our biggest weakness is at SSDM. 165 lbs. guys at that position will just not cut it in this league, and we have a lot of players of that size playing SSDM. On the bright side, we’ve got a lot of experience on D and we’re very deep and talented at midfield. Goalie play has been a little inconsistent, but hopefully experience will pay some big dividends this year.

[Laxgunea]

Barthelme is healthy and big. My question is whether he has the eyes and field IQ. I hope so. Ward has been on the cusp, but I don't see him expanding his talents ... he's got great hands, but can he feed?
I agree on SSDM. Great to have a super senior there in Kyle Driscol, and he played his heart out last year, but size matters. Bach will be too important in generating O to leave out. I hope he shoots more from the lanes. We seem to have a surplus of poles. Maybe convert an LSM?

[oldbartman]

If Hochheimer and Sampson can stay healthy, I would expect both to see some time at ssdm. Sampson played as a 2 way middie at Salisbury school. From what i'm told, he has one of the hardest shots on the team. Will Plunket is another candidate.

[LeeRoggy]

Another 2024 announced . . . Cole DiPietro from South Side on Long Island

Small, but very crafty. Coach's son. Pat McCabe is the Club Coach.

2022 Highlight Clips

https://youtu.be/EGB3HOncelM

[FMUBart]

Cole looks very quick and skilled...but, we need some size!!

[oldbartman]

Cole looks very quick and skilled...but, we need some size!!

+1

Not sure how many scholarships Coach Raymond has for the '24 class. I've heard 6. Hope he can convince some later blooming stars to come to Bart. Size on both sides of the ball is needed. Just look at the way we got pushed around in our losses to Cornell, Cuse and St. Joes.

[Farfromgeneva]

So it appears Liam Matthews of Our 2023s got picked off by PSU.

https://lacrossebucket.com/hobart-recruiting/

Going to need to lock Patterson down hard w $

[Farfromgeneva]

For those less optimistic in undersized offensive players hate to say it but next two classes are set of that so far:

23:

Schleicher and Campbell are D kids

Colden Swisher, M - 5’11”, 175lbs

Chris Patterson, A - 5’7”, 160lbs

Anthony Stillwell, A - 5’11”, 175lbs

24 offensive players (some mids are LSM)

DiPietro, M - 5’8”, 155lbs

Daniel Cano, A - 5’9”, 180lbs

(IL interested in):

Christian Besaw, A (Victor NY) - 5’8”, 155lbs

Graham Burchill, M - 5’10, 175lbs

[FMUBart]

For those less optimistic in undersized offensive players hate to say it but next two classes are set of that so far:

23:

Schleicher and Campbell are D kids

Colden Swisher, M - 5’11”, 175lbs

Chris Patterson, A - 5’7”, 160lbs

Anthony Stillwell, A - 5’11”, 175lbs

24 offensive players (some mids are LSM)

DiPietro, M - 5’8”, 155lbs

Daniel Cano, A - 5’9”, 180lbs

(IL interested in):

Christian Besaw, A (Victor NY) - 5’8”, 155lbs

Graham Burchill, M - 5’10, 175lbs

ouch...

[SMAIN]

Maybe they're tough, quick and fast....

[oldbartman]

We supposedly have 6 full scholarships for the '24 recruiting cycle. Nothing against those that have committed, I am kind of surprised the staff hasn't landed a 4 star recruit. Maybe some of the current '24s will evolve into one. It seems we've had more success on the defensive side the past3 cycles. Just my 2 cents.

[henryben]

For those less optimistic in undersized offensive players hate to say it but next two classes are set of that so far:

23:

Schleicher and Campbell are D kids

Colden Swisher, M - 5’11”, 175lbs

Chris Patterson, A - 5’7”, 160lbs

Anthony Stillwell, A - 5’11”, 175lbs

24 offensive players (some mids are LSM)

DiPietro, M - 5’8”, 155lbs

Daniel Cano, A - 5’9”, 180lbs

(IL interested in):

Christian Besaw, A (Victor NY) - 5’8”, 155lbs

Graham Burchill, M - 5’10, 175lbs

I saw Patterson play at the Hobart/Colgate/Canisius recruit camp this summer. He’s extremely fast and skilled. Why would an extra 2 inches in height make him any harder to defend?

[oldbartman]

For those less optimistic in undersized offensive players hate to say it but next two classes are set of that so far:

23:

Schleicher and Campbell are D kids

Colden Swisher, M - 5’11”, 175lbs

Chris Patterson, A - 5’7”, 160lbs

Anthony Stillwell, A - 5’11”, 175lbs

24 offensive players (some mids are LSM)

DiPietro, M - 5’8”, 155lbs

Daniel Cano, A - 5’9”, 180lbs

(IL interested in):

Christian Besaw, A (Victor NY) - 5’8”, 155lbs

Graham Burchill, M - 5’10, 175lbs

I saw Patterson play at the Hobart/Colgate/Canisius recruit camp this summer. He’s extremely fast and skilled. Why would an extra 2 inches in height make him any harder to defend?

I'm all for the coaches finding the next Jordan Wolf. But it sure would help to have more guys on offense like Zed Williams or Matt Moore size. Chris Aslanian, Frank Brown, Eric Holden were all tough to knock off their line when dodging. Our 1st midfield of Herlihy, Simas and Bach are all good size, strong and can fight off hard checks. St. Joe's gave us a clinic in using size to their advantage. Look at the ACC and B1G 10 teams, Ivys too. It's become the bigger , faster stronger teams have a higher success rate.

[FMUBart]

For those less optimistic in undersized offensive players hate to say it but next two classes are set of that so far:

23:

Schleicher and Campbell are D kids

Colden Swisher, M - 5’11”, 175lbs

Chris Patterson, A - 5’7”, 160lbs

Anthony Stillwell, A - 5’11”, 175lbs

24 offensive players (some mids are LSM)

DiPietro, M - 5’8”, 155lbs

Daniel Cano, A - 5’9”, 180lbs

(IL interested in):

Christian Besaw, A (Victor NY) - 5’8”, 155lbs

Graham Burchill, M - 5’10, 175lbs

I saw Patterson play at the Hobart/Colgate/Canisius recruit camp this summer. He’s extremely fast and skilled. Why would an extra 2 inches in height make him any harder to defend?

I'm all for the coaches finding the next Jordan Wolf. But it sure would help to have more guys on offense like Zed Williams or Matt Moore size. Chris Aslanian, Frank Brown, Eric Holden were all tough to knock off their line when dodging. Our 1st midfield of Herlihy, Simas and Bach are all good size, strong and can fight off hard checks. St. Joe's gave us a clinic in using size to their advantage. Look at the ACC and B1G 10 teams, Ivys too. It's become the bigger , faster stronger teams have a higher success rate.

+1 Usually 2 more inches is accompanied by more weight...not trying to understate the effectiveness of quickness, but size tends to win in the long run, and often the durability(lack of injury) factor is even more important.. As oldbartman referenced, St Joe's punished us with their size.

[henryben]

For those less optimistic in undersized offensive players hate to say it but next two classes are set of that so far:

23:

Schleicher and Campbell are D kids

Colden Swisher, M - 5’11”, 175lbs

Chris Patterson, A - 5’7”, 160lbs

Anthony Stillwell, A - 5’11”, 175lbs

24 offensive players (some mids are LSM)

DiPietro, M - 5’8”, 155lbs

Daniel Cano, A - 5’9”, 180lbs

(IL interested in):

Christian Besaw, A (Victor NY) - 5’8”, 155lbs

Graham Burchill, M - 5’10, 175lbs

I saw Patterson play at the Hobart/Colgate/Canisius recruit camp this summer. He’s extremely fast and skilled. Why would an extra 2 inches in height make him any harder to defend?

I'm all for the coaches finding the next Jordan Wolf. But it sure would help to have more guys on offense like Zed Williams or Matt Moore size. Chris Aslanian, Frank Brown, Eric Holden were all tough to knock off their line when dodging. Our 1st midfield of Herlihy, Simas and Bach are all good size, strong and can fight off hard checks. St. Joe's gave us a clinic in using size to their advantage. Look at the ACC and B1G 10 teams, Ivys too. It's become the bigger , faster stronger teams have a higher success rate.

+1 Usually 2 more inches is accompanied by more weight...not trying to understate the effectiveness of quickness, but size tends to win in the long run, and often the durability(lack of injury) factor is even more important.. As oldbartman referenced, St Joe's punished us with their size.

I get it. However, shorter guys who can carry 175lbs or more AND maintain their speed and quickness are great assets. Chris Gray, Jacob Angelus, Ian Laviano, Grant Ament, etc. You can’t have an offense full of them, but having one or two like that is a big asset (IMO.)

[FMUBart]

Agree Henryben..I just hope the incoming recruits have the skill set of a Gray, Angelus, Laviano or Ament..

[Ketch]

Just out of curiosity I took a look at the St. Joe’s roster to get an idea of their size. They are absolutely massive. If you’re less than 185 lbs you are tiny. It seems that Coach Wray has built a team in the image of the Duke teams he played for. It’s no wonder they have been consistently kicking our butts.

[LeeRoggy]

2024 Goalie commit from Jesuit in Oregon -Brady Smith

https://youtu.be/S-L5Eqjsw3w

[Laxbuck]

Just out of curiosity I took a look at the St. Joe’s roster to get an idea of their size. They are absolutely massive. If you’re less than 185 lbs you are tiny. It seems that Coach Wray has built a team in the image of the Duke teams he played for. It’s no wonder they have been consistently kicking our butts.

Tough to defend that size for 4 quarters