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Re: NESCAC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:06 am
by SaltCounty
nehslaxfan wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:11 am Intersting you have Williams and Wesleyan so high based upon the major contributors that are no longer a part of both teams. This rating seems to be more about last year than this year imo.
I hear you on that.
But I don't think NE Lax Journal is wrong to rank them 2 & 3 based on how they did with what/who they had during the COVID season.

4 through 11 though...
Those spots could go a lot of different ways.

You think Midd would be way higher... or at least Top 8 in a preseason ranking !
They've got older guys who played key roles in 19 & 20, with big recruits stepping on campus (IE Billy Curtis)
But who really knows what they're going to look like after losing almost 2 seasons.

In this league, more than any at the D3 level, I think timing plays a big role in how things shake out.
Who you play when can almost make or break a season.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:32 am
by smoova
SaltCounty wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:06 am In this league, more than any at the D3 level, I think timing plays a big role in how things shake out.
Who you play when can almost make or break a season.
Great observation - a lot will start to shake out by mid-March. I think the following games will be particularly interesting:

3/5
Midd v Bowdoin
Colby v Tufts
Williams v Trinity
Bates v Wes
3/12
Colby v Williams
Trinity v Bates
Conn v Midd
Amherst v Tufts

Colby certainly has a challenging conference start.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:39 am
by JumboFan4
SaltCounty wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:06 am
nehslaxfan wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:11 am Intersting you have Williams and Wesleyan so high based upon the major contributors that are no longer a part of both teams. This rating seems to be more about last year than this year imo.
I hear you on that.
But I don't think NE Lax Journal is wrong to rank them 2 & 3 based on how they did with what/who they had during the COVID season.

4 through 11 though...
Those spots could go a lot of different ways.

You think Midd would be way higher... or at least Top 8 in a preseason ranking !
They've got older guys who played key roles in 19 & 20, with big recruits stepping on campus (IE Billy Curtis)
But who really knows what they're going to look like after losing almost 2 seasons.

In this league, more than any at the D3 level, I think timing plays a big role in how things shake out.
Who you play when can almost make or break a season.
To me the league is pretty wide open this year and hard to handicap. Tufts, specifically, seems to have a big youth movement going on defense/goal and the graduation of Helfrich leaves a big unknown at FO, as Hesse is now listed as a midfielder on their roster. The attack will be dynamic, per usual, but my guess is there will be more reliance on underclassmen to contribute that usual.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:29 pm
by InsiderRoll
JumboFan4 wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:39 am
SaltCounty wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:06 am
nehslaxfan wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:11 am Intersting you have Williams and Wesleyan so high based upon the major contributors that are no longer a part of both teams. This rating seems to be more about last year than this year imo.
I hear you on that.
But I don't think NE Lax Journal is wrong to rank them 2 & 3 based on how they did with what/who they had during the COVID season.

4 through 11 though...
Those spots could go a lot of different ways.

You think Midd would be way higher... or at least Top 8 in a preseason ranking !
They've got older guys who played key roles in 19 & 20, with big recruits stepping on campus (IE Billy Curtis)
But who really knows what they're going to look like after losing almost 2 seasons.

In this league, more than any at the D3 level, I think timing plays a big role in how things shake out.
Who you play when can almost make or break a season.
To me the league is pretty wide open this year and hard to handicap. Tufts, specifically, seems to have a big youth movement going on defense/goal and the graduation of Helfrich leaves a big unknown at FO, as Hesse is now listed as a midfielder on their roster. The attack will be dynamic, per usual, but my guess is there will be more reliance on underclassmen to contribute that usual.
It is interesting, this is the first year where all of Dalys recruits are gone from the Tufts roster. They seem to have continued their dominance recruiting the NESCAC with Jon Thompson’s departure from Amherst. They are the favorites until they are dethroned, but they aren’t entering the season as a sure thing IMO.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:16 pm
by Chipzhoo
SaltCounty wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:06 am
nehslaxfan wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:11 am Intersting you have Williams and Wesleyan so high based upon the major contributors that are no longer a part of both teams. This rating seems to be more about last year than this year imo.

You think Midd would be way higher... or at least Top 8 in a preseason ranking !
They've got older guys who played key roles in 19 & 20, with big recruits stepping on campus (IE Billy Curtis)
But who really knows what they're going to look like after losing almost 2 seasons.
Midd has a few freshmen that will impress this year.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:13 am
by Laxxal22
Anybody heading to Tufts today for the Dartmouth scrimmage? Should be a good one. Tufts lost a lot from last season, and the Big Green will be out for blood and playing with a full roster unlike last year.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:47 am
by BallHunt
InsiderRoll wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:29 pm
JumboFan4 wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:39 am
SaltCounty wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:06 am
nehslaxfan wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:11 am Intersting you have Williams and Wesleyan so high based upon the major contributors that are no longer a part of both teams. This rating seems to be more about last year than this year imo.
I hear you on that.
But I don't think NE Lax Journal is wrong to rank them 2 & 3 based on how they did with what/who they had during the COVID season.

4 through 11 though...
Those spots could go a lot of different ways.

You think Midd would be way higher... or at least Top 8 in a preseason ranking !
They've got older guys who played key roles in 19 & 20, with big recruits stepping on campus (IE Billy Curtis)
But who really knows what they're going to look like after losing almost 2 seasons.

In this league, more than any at the D3 level, I think timing plays a big role in how things shake out.
Who you play when can almost make or break a season.
To me the league is pretty wide open this year and hard to handicap. Tufts, specifically, seems to have a big youth movement going on defense/goal and the graduation of Helfrich leaves a big unknown at FO, as Hesse is now listed as a midfielder on their roster. The attack will be dynamic, per usual, but my guess is there will be more reliance on underclassmen to contribute that usual.
It is interesting, this is the first year where all of Dalys recruits are gone from the Tufts roster. They seem to have continued their dominance recruiting the NESCAC with Jon Thompson’s departure from Amherst. They are the favorites until they are dethroned, but they aren’t entering the season as a sure thing IMO.
The Jumbos reload, in addition to the current great players, will be intriguing. Wesleyan, Williams and Middlebury have large parts of their rosters who did not play last season, and those teams will be fun to watch develop.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:11 pm
by Flag Down
Tufts up 8-4 after 1 and 11-7 at half. Tufts goalie has been big and #33 has been shooting at a high percentage and Tufts has been pushing transition, as usual. Faceoff has been about 50/50. Dartmouth has scored on a few crease looks with slow 2 slides. Nice day for lacrosse!

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:33 pm
by JumboFan4
Flag Down wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:11 pm Tufts up 8-4 after 1 and 11-7 at half. Tufts goalie has been big and #33 has been shooting at a high percentage and Tufts has been pushing transition, as usual. Faceoff has been about 50/50. Dartmouth has scored on a few crease looks with slow 2 slides. Nice day for lacrosse!
Who is taking the draws?

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:40 pm
by nescac commit
Amherst takes down Bentley 17-11. Lots of great plays on both sides. #31 and #6 for amherst led the way in scoring. Looks like the mammoths are back for revenge

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:20 pm
by georgeoar394
Tanyr is a slick supper shifty attackman..PJ is one of a few of the remaining JT players. Was a key contributor first few games before Covid. Jake Bennet was also a big middie in the fall..not sure if he’s on roster for spring

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:01 pm
by Unknown Participant
Flag Down wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:11 pm Tufts up 8-4 after 1 and 11-7 at half. Tufts goalie has been big and #33 has been shooting at a high percentage and Tufts has been pushing transition, as usual. Faceoff has been about 50/50. Dartmouth has scored on a few crease looks with slow 2 slides. Nice day for lacrosse!
As noted, Tufts up 11- 7 at half, and then Tufts started subbing its 2nd/3rd line guys across the board. Dartmouth kept running its starters and tied it up in 3rd. Tufts pulled away again by a few, but basically played its bench in the 4th and the "scrimmage" ended in a 17-17 draw. They reset the scoreboard and played a 5th quarter, and Tufts Freshmen were up 4-0 on Dmouth Freshman at the end of the 5th.

That's my recollection at least.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:11 am
by Flag Down
Bonkboo wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:43 pm Believe the WNE/Conn scrimmage is at Conn. Eastern Conn also in attendance.
Any word on how things went?

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:48 am
by SaltCounty
Flag Down wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:11 am
Bonkboo wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:43 pm Believe the WNE/Conn scrimmage is at Conn. Eastern Conn also in attendance.
Any word on how things went?
Curious to know how games in Middletown went yesterday.
Wesleyan was 1st of 6 NESCAC opponents for Babson this year.
Imagine both programs treated it like a real contest

Anyone have info on Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, Midd, Hamilton or Williams scrimmage plans?
The window for Bowdoin - Williams is closing.
A lot of New England / NY seasons begin next Saturday.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:52 am
by 2laxers
Flag Down wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:11 am
Bonkboo wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:43 pm Believe the WNE/Conn scrimmage is at Conn. Eastern Conn also in attendance.
Any word on how things went?
Scrimmage was suppose to be today, but cancelled due to weather.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:06 pm
by lax1983
Bowdoin scrimmaged MIT - I don't know many details other than it was 5-4 MIT after Q1.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:03 pm
by Ddw1
Bates is scheduled to scrimmage Colby on Wednesday.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:58 pm
by JumboFan4
Waldbaum making easy work of Duke today with 4 first half goals.

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:22 pm
by Unknown Participant
JumboFan4 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:58 pm Waldbaum making easy work of Duke today with 4 first half goals.
Yeah, a beast ... funny how getting out of Medford made him the top offensive option

Re: NESCAC

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:27 pm
by Unknown Participant
smoova wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:32 am
SaltCounty wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:06 am In this league, more than any at the D3 level, I think timing plays a big role in how things shake out.
Who you play when can almost make or break a season.
Great observation - a lot will start to shake out by mid-March. I think the following games will be particularly interesting:

3/5
Midd v Bowdoin
Colby v Tufts
Williams v Trinity
Bates v Wes
3/12
Colby v Williams
Trinity v Bates
Conn v Midd
Amherst v Tufts

Colby certainly has a challenging conference start.
Smoova ... no offense to the mules, but that 3/5 game is likely going to be ugly. Although if it's not, that will certainly say something.