Re: Progressive Ideology
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:26 pm
Thanks for posting that.
Thanks for posting that.
Excellent article. I would note that with the exception of Iraq/Afghanistan (I know, a pretty big exception
carefully worded. very astute.
Those website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
Tough situation by all for sure. I have a niece born female, who is/has currently struggling with gender identity. Her family has legally changed her name to a gender neutral name and identified as male, as a 10th grader in HS. Now, recently graduated HS, has waffled back to identifying as a female again, but now as a bi-sexual female. Makes my head spin listening to the family stories.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pmThose website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
The NCAA has actually done a pretty good job with legislation regarding this area. Get your diagnosis, go on hormone replacement therapy for a specified time (which negates virtually all of the benefits of any previous development). Getting valid diagnoses and medicine as a teenager is really hard, especially with our third world health care system. A third "open" category is probably needed with some barriers to entry depending on your body chemistry.
The thought experiment I give everyone talking about this is always: imagine you wake up tomorrow in the body of the opposite gender. Do you accept your new body, or do you use science to change you back into the body your brain tells you you are? This is what MRIs and other science has shown - their brain is structured as the opposite gender vs what their body developed as in utero due to a variety of causes.
You think it is a flippant choice on her/his part? I have friends going through this same thing with their daughter/son. They had no idea. Kid told them they felt that way all their life but never told anyone....another friend who was one of the best players in college lacrosse hung out with his teammates not long ago. One of his old teammates is a woman now. Nobody caresyouthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 amTough situation by all for sure. I have a niece born female, who is/has currently struggling with gender identity. Her family has legally changed her name to a gender neutral name and identified as male, as a 10th grader in HS. Now, recently graduated HS, has waffled back to identifying as a female again, but now as a bi-sexual female. Makes my head spin listening to the family stories.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pmThose website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
The NCAA has actually done a pretty good job with legislation regarding this area. Get your diagnosis, go on hormone replacement therapy for a specified time (which negates virtually all of the benefits of any previous development). Getting valid diagnoses and medicine as a teenager is really hard, especially with our third world health care system. A third "open" category is probably needed with some barriers to entry depending on your body chemistry.
The thought experiment I give everyone talking about this is always: imagine you wake up tomorrow in the body of the opposite gender. Do you accept your new body, or do you use science to change you back into the body your brain tells you you are? This is what MRIs and other science has shown - their brain is structured as the opposite gender vs what their body developed as in utero due to a variety of causes.
Yes and no. Why?, because there is very little way to get to the core, especially as an adolescent. The parents spent thousands on a well known identity psychiatrist evaluations only for the shrink to essentially say she suffers from anxiety and depression and if she identifies as a boy than I can not prove that one way or another. I will also add that the parents are/were on both ends of the spectrum about the decisions. Mom never really cut the umbilical cord...very clingy and smothering and Dad was essentially not present very materialistic, always away golfing, anything to not be at home.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:25 amYou think it is a flippant choice on her/his part? I have friends going through this same thing with their daughter/son. They had no idea. Kid told them they felt that way all their life but never told anyone....another friend who was one of the best players in college lacrosse hung out with his teammates not long ago. One of his old teammates is a woman now. Nobody caresyouthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 amTough situation by all for sure. I have a niece born female, who is/has currently struggling with gender identity. Her family has legally changed her name to a gender neutral name and identified as male, as a 10th grader in HS. Now, recently graduated HS, has waffled back to identifying as a female again, but now as a bi-sexual female. Makes my head spin listening to the family stories.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pmThose website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
The NCAA has actually done a pretty good job with legislation regarding this area. Get your diagnosis, go on hormone replacement therapy for a specified time (which negates virtually all of the benefits of any previous development). Getting valid diagnoses and medicine as a teenager is really hard, especially with our third world health care system. A third "open" category is probably needed with some barriers to entry depending on your body chemistry.
The thought experiment I give everyone talking about this is always: imagine you wake up tomorrow in the body of the opposite gender. Do you accept your new body, or do you use science to change you back into the body your brain tells you you are? This is what MRIs and other science has shown - their brain is structured as the opposite gender vs what their body developed as in utero due to a variety of causes.
For my friend that went through this - I am super proud of how their child has dealt with the issue...nothing but respect and admiration for the parents, along with full support.Curious how you view your friends family.
I admire them. It is not easy, particularly in their religious community. I have known their daughter since she was born. On the outside, a normal upper middle class up bringing. She didn't wake up one day and say "being gay is cool....why not!" I would not want to be in their shoes. Would you? I know people that are embarrassed about their kids not making a travel team and the impact it has on them socially. Imagine this. It was not easy for them to tell us. The fact this is a "political" issue is actually sad....even sadder is how their social circle has shrunk. That is what friends are for, huh?.....EDIT: My buddy's dad is a golfing buddy of Trump..... imagine those family conversations.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:55 amYes and no. Why?, because there is very little way to get to the core, especially as an adolescent. The parents spent thousands on a well known identity psychiatrist evaluations only for the shrink to essentially say she suffers from anxiety and depression and if she identifies as a boy than I can not prove that one way or another. I will also add that the parents are/were on both ends of the spectrum about the decisions. Mom never really cut the umbilical cord...very clingy and smothering and Dad was essentially not present very materialistic, always away golfing, anything to not be at home.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:25 amYou think it is a flippant choice on her/his part? I have friends going through this same thing with their daughter/son. They had no idea. Kid told them they felt that way all their life but never told anyone....another friend who was one of the best players in college lacrosse hung out with his teammates not long ago. One of his old teammates is a woman now. Nobody caresyouthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 amTough situation by all for sure. I have a niece born female, who is/has currently struggling with gender identity. Her family has legally changed her name to a gender neutral name and identified as male, as a 10th grader in HS. Now, recently graduated HS, has waffled back to identifying as a female again, but now as a bi-sexual female. Makes my head spin listening to the family stories.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pmThose website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
The NCAA has actually done a pretty good job with legislation regarding this area. Get your diagnosis, go on hormone replacement therapy for a specified time (which negates virtually all of the benefits of any previous development). Getting valid diagnoses and medicine as a teenager is really hard, especially with our third world health care system. A third "open" category is probably needed with some barriers to entry depending on your body chemistry.
The thought experiment I give everyone talking about this is always: imagine you wake up tomorrow in the body of the opposite gender. Do you accept your new body, or do you use science to change you back into the body your brain tells you you are? This is what MRIs and other science has shown - their brain is structured as the opposite gender vs what their body developed as in utero due to a variety of causes.
Curious how you view your friends family.
My mistake, in my last comment/question. More specifically I am curious if there is a parenting, sibling dysfunction/stress within their family, that may have caused the child to feel this way? In the case I speak of, it is quite easy to draw the "nurture" and not the nature" correlation.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:09 amI admire them. It is not easy, particularly in their religious community. I have known their daughter since she was born. On the outside, a normal upper middle class up bringing. She didn't wake up one day and say "being gay is cool....why not!" I would not want to be in their shoes. Would you? I know people that are embarrassed about their kids not making a travel team and the impact it has on them socially. Imagine this. It was not easy for them to tell us. The fact this is a "political" issue is actually sad....even sadder is how their social circle has shrunk. That is what friends are for, huh?.....EDIT: My buddy's dad is a golfing buddy of Trump..... imagine those family conversations.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:55 amYes and no. Why?, because there is very little way to get to the core, especially as an adolescent. The parents spent thousands on a well known identity psychiatrist evaluations only for the shrink to essentially say she suffers from anxiety and depression and if she identifies as a boy than I can not prove that one way or another. I will also add that the parents are/were on both ends of the spectrum about the decisions. Mom never really cut the umbilical cord...very clingy and smothering and Dad was essentially not present very materialistic, always away golfing, anything to not be at home.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:25 amYou think it is a flippant choice on her/his part? I have friends going through this same thing with their daughter/son. They had no idea. Kid told them they felt that way all their life but never told anyone....another friend who was one of the best players in college lacrosse hung out with his teammates not long ago. One of his old teammates is a woman now. Nobody caresyouthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 amTough situation by all for sure. I have a niece born female, who is/has currently struggling with gender identity. Her family has legally changed her name to a gender neutral name and identified as male, as a 10th grader in HS. Now, recently graduated HS, has waffled back to identifying as a female again, but now as a bi-sexual female. Makes my head spin listening to the family stories.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pmThose website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
The NCAA has actually done a pretty good job with legislation regarding this area. Get your diagnosis, go on hormone replacement therapy for a specified time (which negates virtually all of the benefits of any previous development). Getting valid diagnoses and medicine as a teenager is really hard, especially with our third world health care system. A third "open" category is probably needed with some barriers to entry depending on your body chemistry.
The thought experiment I give everyone talking about this is always: imagine you wake up tomorrow in the body of the opposite gender. Do you accept your new body, or do you use science to change you back into the body your brain tells you you are? This is what MRIs and other science has shown - their brain is structured as the opposite gender vs what their body developed as in utero due to a variety of causes.
Curious how you view your friends family.
Born that way.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:10 pmMy mistake, in my last comment/question. More specifically I am curious if there is a parenting, sibling dysfunction/stress within their family, that may have caused the child to feel this way? In the case I speak of, it is quite easy to draw the "nurture" and not the nature" correlation.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:09 amI admire them. It is not easy, particularly in their religious community. I have known their daughter since she was born. On the outside, a normal upper middle class up bringing. She didn't wake up one day and say "being gay is cool....why not!" I would not want to be in their shoes. Would you? I know people that are embarrassed about their kids not making a travel team and the impact it has on them socially. Imagine this. It was not easy for them to tell us. The fact this is a "political" issue is actually sad....even sadder is how their social circle has shrunk. That is what friends are for, huh?.....EDIT: My buddy's dad is a golfing buddy of Trump..... imagine those family conversations.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:55 amYes and no. Why?, because there is very little way to get to the core, especially as an adolescent. The parents spent thousands on a well known identity psychiatrist evaluations only for the shrink to essentially say she suffers from anxiety and depression and if she identifies as a boy than I can not prove that one way or another. I will also add that the parents are/were on both ends of the spectrum about the decisions. Mom never really cut the umbilical cord...very clingy and smothering and Dad was essentially not present very materialistic, always away golfing, anything to not be at home.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:25 amYou think it is a flippant choice on her/his part? I have friends going through this same thing with their daughter/son. They had no idea. Kid told them they felt that way all their life but never told anyone....another friend who was one of the best players in college lacrosse hung out with his teammates not long ago. One of his old teammates is a woman now. Nobody caresyouthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 amTough situation by all for sure. I have a niece born female, who is/has currently struggling with gender identity. Her family has legally changed her name to a gender neutral name and identified as male, as a 10th grader in HS. Now, recently graduated HS, has waffled back to identifying as a female again, but now as a bi-sexual female. Makes my head spin listening to the family stories.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pmThose website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
The NCAA has actually done a pretty good job with legislation regarding this area. Get your diagnosis, go on hormone replacement therapy for a specified time (which negates virtually all of the benefits of any previous development). Getting valid diagnoses and medicine as a teenager is really hard, especially with our third world health care system. A third "open" category is probably needed with some barriers to entry depending on your body chemistry.
The thought experiment I give everyone talking about this is always: imagine you wake up tomorrow in the body of the opposite gender. Do you accept your new body, or do you use science to change you back into the body your brain tells you you are? This is what MRIs and other science has shown - their brain is structured as the opposite gender vs what their body developed as in utero due to a variety of causes.
Curious how you view your friends family.
Can you help me understand the point of your provided link as it relates to our conversation? I read that article as "forcing" nature upon someone. I was merely asking you if you saw that the environment your friends child grew up in "may" have had an impact on the childs struggle.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:37 pmBorn that way.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:10 pmMy mistake, in my last comment/question. More specifically I am curious if there is a parenting, sibling dysfunction/stress within their family, that may have caused the child to feel this way? In the case I speak of, it is quite easy to draw the "nurture" and not the nature" correlation.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:09 amI admire them. It is not easy, particularly in their religious community. I have known their daughter since she was born. On the outside, a normal upper middle class up bringing. She didn't wake up one day and say "being gay is cool....why not!" I would not want to be in their shoes. Would you? I know people that are embarrassed about their kids not making a travel team and the impact it has on them socially. Imagine this. It was not easy for them to tell us. The fact this is a "political" issue is actually sad....even sadder is how their social circle has shrunk. That is what friends are for, huh?.....EDIT: My buddy's dad is a golfing buddy of Trump..... imagine those family conversations.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:55 amYes and no. Why?, because there is very little way to get to the core, especially as an adolescent. The parents spent thousands on a well known identity psychiatrist evaluations only for the shrink to essentially say she suffers from anxiety and depression and if she identifies as a boy than I can not prove that one way or another. I will also add that the parents are/were on both ends of the spectrum about the decisions. Mom never really cut the umbilical cord...very clingy and smothering and Dad was essentially not present very materialistic, always away golfing, anything to not be at home.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:25 amYou think it is a flippant choice on her/his part? I have friends going through this same thing with their daughter/son. They had no idea. Kid told them they felt that way all their life but never told anyone....another friend who was one of the best players in college lacrosse hung out with his teammates not long ago. One of his old teammates is a woman now. Nobody caresyouthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 amTough situation by all for sure. I have a niece born female, who is/has currently struggling with gender identity. Her family has legally changed her name to a gender neutral name and identified as male, as a 10th grader in HS. Now, recently graduated HS, has waffled back to identifying as a female again, but now as a bi-sexual female. Makes my head spin listening to the family stories.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pmThose website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
The NCAA has actually done a pretty good job with legislation regarding this area. Get your diagnosis, go on hormone replacement therapy for a specified time (which negates virtually all of the benefits of any previous development). Getting valid diagnoses and medicine as a teenager is really hard, especially with our third world health care system. A third "open" category is probably needed with some barriers to entry depending on your body chemistry.
The thought experiment I give everyone talking about this is always: imagine you wake up tomorrow in the body of the opposite gender. Do you accept your new body, or do you use science to change you back into the body your brain tells you you are? This is what MRIs and other science has shown - their brain is structured as the opposite gender vs what their body developed as in utero due to a variety of causes.
Curious how you view your friends family.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-11814300
The environment was no different than most people I know. Her sibling is fine. Grew up in the same house with the same parents. The article is just some information on nature versus nurture.....God made her that way.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:52 pmCan you help me understand the point of your provided link as it relates to our conversation? I read that article as "forcing" nature upon someone. I was merely asking you if you saw that the environment your friends child grew up in "may" have had an impact on the childs struggle.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:37 pmBorn that way.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:10 pmMy mistake, in my last comment/question. More specifically I am curious if there is a parenting, sibling dysfunction/stress within their family, that may have caused the child to feel this way? In the case I speak of, it is quite easy to draw the "nurture" and not the nature" correlation.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:09 amI admire them. It is not easy, particularly in their religious community. I have known their daughter since she was born. On the outside, a normal upper middle class up bringing. She didn't wake up one day and say "being gay is cool....why not!" I would not want to be in their shoes. Would you? I know people that are embarrassed about their kids not making a travel team and the impact it has on them socially. Imagine this. It was not easy for them to tell us. The fact this is a "political" issue is actually sad....even sadder is how their social circle has shrunk. That is what friends are for, huh?.....EDIT: My buddy's dad is a golfing buddy of Trump..... imagine those family conversations.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:55 amYes and no. Why?, because there is very little way to get to the core, especially as an adolescent. The parents spent thousands on a well known identity psychiatrist evaluations only for the shrink to essentially say she suffers from anxiety and depression and if she identifies as a boy than I can not prove that one way or another. I will also add that the parents are/were on both ends of the spectrum about the decisions. Mom never really cut the umbilical cord...very clingy and smothering and Dad was essentially not present very materialistic, always away golfing, anything to not be at home.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:25 amYou think it is a flippant choice on her/his part? I have friends going through this same thing with their daughter/son. They had no idea. Kid told them they felt that way all their life but never told anyone....another friend who was one of the best players in college lacrosse hung out with his teammates not long ago. One of his old teammates is a woman now. Nobody caresyouthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 amTough situation by all for sure. I have a niece born female, who is/has currently struggling with gender identity. Her family has legally changed her name to a gender neutral name and identified as male, as a 10th grader in HS. Now, recently graduated HS, has waffled back to identifying as a female again, but now as a bi-sexual female. Makes my head spin listening to the family stories.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pmThose website comments are cancer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:45 pm Teen Athletes Challenge CT Policy Allowing Transgenders To Compete Against Girls
Pick your poison. I thought we were told women and men were equals...oh wait, that gender identity makes us equals, oh wait, I'm confused.![]()
The NCAA has actually done a pretty good job with legislation regarding this area. Get your diagnosis, go on hormone replacement therapy for a specified time (which negates virtually all of the benefits of any previous development). Getting valid diagnoses and medicine as a teenager is really hard, especially with our third world health care system. A third "open" category is probably needed with some barriers to entry depending on your body chemistry.
The thought experiment I give everyone talking about this is always: imagine you wake up tomorrow in the body of the opposite gender. Do you accept your new body, or do you use science to change you back into the body your brain tells you you are? This is what MRIs and other science has shown - their brain is structured as the opposite gender vs what their body developed as in utero due to a variety of causes.
Curious how you view your friends family.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-11814300
Let's meet back here in ten years and see if that comes true.“People need to wake up. This radical bill is going to totally eliminate women’s and girls sports,” Republican Arizona Rep. Debbie Lesko warned in an op-ed Thursday.
It won't take that long.