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Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:43 pm
by calourie
GSP wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:19 pm The decade does not end until midnight on 12/31 of 2020!

The decade will only be nine years old next Tuesday night. Can we please refrain from premature ejacu...?
Wrong. The general consensus is that the nominal decade ends Tuesday night. A decade by definition is any ten year period, so you are free to see it any way you want, but the first decade of the 2000s started Jan 1. 2000, and ended midnight Dec. 31, 2009, the second ends midnight Dec. 31, 2019. Alternate facts don't make something true.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:12 pm
by Drcthru
GSP wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:19 pm The decade does not end until midnight on 12/31 of 2020!

The decade will only be nine years old next Tuesday night. Can we please refrain from premature ejacu...?
You are correct in that the second Decade of the 21st Century ends 12/31/2020 but, some people think any ten year period is a decade and think of the 2010 through 2019 decade as the teens.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:17 pm
by Drcthru
calourie wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:43 pm
GSP wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:19 pm The decade does not end until midnight on 12/31 of 2020!

The decade will only be nine years old next Tuesday night. Can we please refrain from premature ejacu...?
Wrong. The general consensus is that the nominal decade ends Tuesday night. A decade by definition is any ten year period, so you are free to see it any way you want, but the first decade of the 2000s started Jan 1. 2000, and ended midnight Dec. 31, 2009, the second ends midnight Dec. 31, 2019. Alternate facts don't make something true.
When asked about the dispute, Rick Fienberg of the American Astronomical Society says he doesn't think his group has adopted an official position on the matter — but he adds, "History is clear: Because there was no Year Zero, the first decade of the common era (CE or AD) was years 1 to 10, the second decade was years 11 to 20, and the next decade will be years 2021 to 2030." :D

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:21 pm
by DocBarrister
Drcthru wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:12 pm
GSP wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:19 pm The decade does not end until midnight on 12/31 of 2020!

The decade will only be nine years old next Tuesday night. Can we please refrain from premature ejacu...?
You are correct in that the second Decade of the 21st Century ends 12/31/2020 but, some people think any ten year period is a decade and think of the 10 through 20 decade as the teens.
I think GSP is using the old Cuban approach.

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/02/worl ... -wait.html

That makes GSP a capital-“C” Communist.

I can get some pitchforks (think I have a few leftover in the garage after we ran the folks who liked “The Last Jedi” off the forum), but someone will need to make a trip to Home Depot for the torches. Please try to get the Easy-Lite propylene torch fuel model.

DocBarrister 8-)

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:58 pm
by WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus
GSP wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:19 pm The decade does not end until midnight on 12/31 of 2020!

The decade will only be nine years old next Tuesday night. Can we please refrain from premature ejacu...?
This is correct, and I know from prior discussions a resident moron disagrees.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:17 pm
by DocBarrister
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:58 pm
GSP wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:19 pm The decade does not end until midnight on 12/31 of 2020!

The decade will only be nine years old next Tuesday night. Can we please refrain from premature ejacu...?
This is correct, and I know from prior discussions a resident moron disagrees.
Actually, those who understand this issue know there is no one “correct” answer.

DocBarrister 8-)

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:45 pm
by MDlaxfan76
DocBarrister wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:17 pm
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:58 pm
GSP wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:19 pm The decade does not end until midnight on 12/31 of 2020!

The decade will only be nine years old next Tuesday night. Can we please refrain from premature ejacu...?
This is correct, and I know from prior discussions a resident moron disagrees.
Actually, those who understand this issue know there is no one “correct” answer.

DocBarrister 8-)
Yikes, only on a Hopkins thread... ;)

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:58 pm
by calourie
Drcthru wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:17 pm
calourie wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:43 pm
GSP wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:19 pm The decade does not end until midnight on 12/31 of 2020!

The decade will only be nine years old next Tuesday night. Can we please refrain from premature ejacu...?
Wrong. The general consensus is that the nominal decade ends Tuesday night. A decade by definition is any ten year period, so you are free to see it any way you want, but the first decade of the 2000s started Jan 1. 2000, and ended midnight Dec. 31, 2009, the second ends midnight Dec. 31, 2019. Alternate facts don't make something true.
When asked about the dispute, Rick Fienberg of the American Astronomical Society says he doesn't think his group has adopted an official position on the matter — but he adds, "History is clear: Because there was no Year Zero, the first decade of the common era (CE or AD) was years 1 to 10, the second decade was years 11 to 20, and the next decade will be years 2021 to 2030." :D
Hmm. So I guess I'm the one who was wrong. It's just hard for me to accept that the 21st century didn't start until 2001. How ironic that I took all those y2k precautions

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 pm
by jhu06
10 keys to returning to ff
1. Finding an all big 10 caliber goalie.
2. Connor Disimone returning to form.
3. 2 quality ssdm
4. Replacement for Foley
5. reinson ability to replace kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn.
6. stronger start
7. replacement for marr
8. maximizing zinn
9. minimizing offensive zone penalties. marr, williams, epstein had 15 last year.
10. gbs.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:40 pm
by WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus
jhu06 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 pm 10 keys to returning to ff
1. Finding an all big 10 caliber goalie.
2. Connor Disimone returning to form.
3. 2 quality ssdm
4. Replacement for Foley
5. reinson ability to replace kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn.
6. stronger start
7. replacement for marr
8. maximizing zinn
9. minimizing offensive zone penalties. marr, williams, epstein had 15 last year.
10. gbs.
11. Use more of the bench and look for unexpected contributions.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:30 pm
by stupefied
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 pm 10 keys to returning to ff
1. Finding an all big 10 caliber goalie.
2. Connor Disimone returning to form.
3. 2 quality ssdm
4. Replacement for Foley
5. reinson ability to replace kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn.
6. stronger start
7. replacement for marr
8. maximizing zinn
9. minimizing offensive zone penalties. marr, williams, epstein had 15 last year.
10. gbs.
11. Use more of the bench and look for unexpected contributions.
12 Score more goals that opponents do

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:32 am
by WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus
stupefied wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:30 pm
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 pm 10 keys to returning to ff
1. Finding an all big 10 caliber goalie.
2. Connor Disimone returning to form.
3. 2 quality ssdm
4. Replacement for Foley
5. reinson ability to replace kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn.
6. stronger start
7. replacement for marr
8. maximizing zinn
9. minimizing offensive zone penalties. marr, williams, epstein had 15 last year.
10. gbs.
11. Use more of the bench and look for unexpected contributions.
12 Score more goals that opponents do
Ok, you win.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:18 am
by flalax22
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 pm 10 keys to returning to ff
1. Finding an all big 10 caliber goalie.
2. Connor Disimone returning to form.
3. 2 quality ssdm
4. Replacement for Foley
5. reinson ability to replace kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn.
6. stronger start
7. replacement for marr
8. maximizing zinn
9. minimizing offensive zone penalties. marr, williams, epstein had 15 last year.
10. gbs.
11. Use more of the bench and look for unexpected contributions.
This staff doesn’t do that. They do all this regular soul searching for answers and yet all they have to do is look at Danowskis approach. He plays a lot of guys in the first half of the season and figures it out from there.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:35 am
by Sagittarius A*
stupefied wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:30 pm
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 pm 10 keys to returning to ff
1. Finding an all big 10 caliber goalie.
2. Connor Disimone returning to form.
3. 2 quality ssdm
4. Replacement for Foley
5. reinson ability to replace kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn.
6. stronger start
7. replacement for marr
8. maximizing zinn
9. minimizing offensive zone penalties. marr, williams, epstein had 15 last year.
10. gbs.
11. Use more of the bench and look for unexpected contributions.
12 Score more goals that opponents do
13. Find a way to get past Duke in the Quarterfinals

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:38 am
by stupefied
flalax22 wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:18 am
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 pm 10 keys to returning to ff
1. Finding an all big 10 caliber goalie.
2. Connor Disimone returning to form.
3. 2 quality ssdm
4. Replacement for Foley
5. reinson ability to replace kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn.
6. stronger start
7. replacement for marr
8. maximizing zinn
9. minimizing offensive zone penalties. marr, williams, epstein had 15 last year.
10. gbs.
11. Use more of the bench and look for unexpected contributions.
This staff doesn’t do that. They do all this regular soul searching for answers and yet all they have to do is look at Danowskis approach. He plays a lot of guys in the first half of the season and figures it out from there.
Not sure that is totally fair as schedules do matter in deployment of roster. Even in first half of 19 season, Duke only used 22-24 players when playing closer games against better opponents. Softer teams allow greater latitude and Duke also brought in subs when margins were wide and games dwere ecided but not in tight contests.
JHU opened agaisnt Towson not Furman, Petro used 33 players in that blow out and 32 when you finally got somewhat of a breather vs Mt St Marys. Selection of personnel and allocation of minutes will always be questioned but his usage of roster in general seemed to be in line with other programs depending on opponent.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:54 am
by 51percentcorn
stupefied wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:38 am Not sure that is totally fair as schedules do matter in deployment of roster. Even in first half of 19 season, Duke only used 22-24 players when playing closer games against better opponents. Softer teams allow greater latitude and Duke also brought in subs when margins were wide and games dwere ecided but not in tight contests.
JHU opened agaisnt Towson not Furman, Petro used 33 players in that blow out and 32 when you finally got somewhat of a breather vs Mt St Marys. Selection of personnel and allocation of minutes will always be questioned but his usage of roster in general seemed to be in line with other programs depending on opponent.
Very astute observation. Here's a concrete example. In 2018 when Duke crushed High Point 19-8 in the 2nd game of the season - 40 Blue Devils saw the field. In 2019 - when High Point shocked Duke also in the 2nd game of the season Danowski sent 24 players out. I think Danowski does a couple things sometimes that are effective. He has played younger players initially in positions you might not expect. Lawson and Tripucka for example were SSDMs freshmen year. I think that accomplishes a bunch of good things. I also like the no or very few scrimmage policy to load up on games where you can schedule newer programs like Furman, Cleveland State, Jacksonville, Utah etc. Games, no matter what team they are against, are different than scrimmages - the scoreboard is turned on and you have to care about the result. Players have a chance to experience success AND you might get a chance to play more people. Duke also plays alot of tough out of conference opponents too - Denver, Penn, Loyola, Towson last year for example. It's a good balance I think.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:03 am
by Sagittarius A*
51percentcorn wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:54 am
stupefied wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:38 am Not sure that is totally fair as schedules do matter in deployment of roster. Even in first half of 19 season, Duke only used 22-24 players when playing closer games against better opponents. Softer teams allow greater latitude and Duke also brought in subs when margins were wide and games dwere ecided but not in tight contests.
JHU opened agaisnt Towson not Furman, Petro used 33 players in that blow out and 32 when you finally got somewhat of a breather vs Mt St Marys. Selection of personnel and allocation of minutes will always be questioned but his usage of roster in general seemed to be in line with other programs depending on opponent.
Very astute observation. Here's a concrete example. In 2018 when Duke crushed High Point 19-8 in the 2nd game of the season - 40 Blue Devils saw the field. In 2019 - when High Point shocked Duke also in the 2nd game of the season Danowski sent 24 players out. I think Danowski does a couple things sometimes that are effective. He has played younger players initially in positions you might not expect. Lawson and Tripucka for example were SSDMs freshmen year. I think that accomplishes a bunch of good things. I also like the no or very few scrimmage policy to load up on games where you can schedule newer programs like Furman, Cleveland State, Jacksonville, Utah etc. Games, no matter what team they are against, are different than scrimmages - the scoreboard is turned on and you have to care about the result. Players have a chance to experience success AND you might get a chance to play more people. Duke also plays alot of tough out of conference opponents too - Denver, Penn, Loyola, Towson last year for example. It's a good balance I think.
Duke seems to be the gold standard for success the last decade. One thing I noticed when Danowski came to Homewood for the playoff game a few years back is that he doesn't yell at the players. Instead he walks around the sidelines encouraging them for little things. Anything positive he would go up to the player involved and say a few encouraging words. Danowski also doesn't seem to micromanage the players in the sense that he doesn't tell them specifically what to do when on the field. It would be great to know more about his approach and coaching style. It's hard to argue with his success.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:12 am
by WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus
I am COMPLETELY in favor of canning all of the scrimmages.

But you know a big reason why they won’t? That stupid videoing policy. The video exchange system.

Can’t tape a scrimmage, and there would be fears that, oh Lord, heavens to Betsy (who IS Betsy?), we can’t possibly have an opposing team have one more game film of us than we have of them.

But, you lose eligibility by playing in a fall or spring scrimmage anyway, so hell, SCRAP THEM.

Play for real, develop your bench, and let more of your team feel like they contributed to an actual Win.

As far as extra game video, these extra games could involve so much more experimentation, roster use, etc., that they would actually give other opponents a hell of a lot more to have to prepare for and get confused about. In and of themselves, they could lead to greater disinformation.

Information warfare. Use it. Do it. Scrap the scrimmages.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:58 pm
by stupefied
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:12 am I am COMPLETELY in favor of canning all of the scrimmages.

But you know a big reason why they won’t? That stupid videoing policy. The video exchange system.

Can’t tape a scrimmage, and there would be fears that, oh Lord, heavens to Betsy (who IS Betsy?), we can’t possibly have an opposing team have one more game film of us than we have of them.

But, you lose eligibility by playing in a fall or spring scrimmage anyway, so hell, SCRAP THEM.

Play for real, develop your bench, and let more of your team feel like they contributed to an actual Win.

As far as extra game video, these extra games could involve so much more experimentation, roster use, etc., that they would actually give other opponents a hell of a lot more to have to prepare for and get confused about. In and of themselves, they could lead to greater disinformation.

Information warfare. Use it. Do it. Scrap the scrimmage
Disagree on most all.

No longer lose year of eligibility by playing in scrimmages. Did away with that last year.

Time for experimenting and playing roster isn't the regular season when results of each factors equally into these formulaic calculations for postseason selection. Coaches including Danowski coach to win each and every game not to wet feet if game circumstances and margins dont allow. They amazingly tend to know their personnel and their present stages better than fans.

Players are constantly assessed by performances not only in game but in practices. Development and growth happens during the season and players can earn or lose time. When Johnny Rawson actually plays and looks good its' probably because he was readied not because he was held back.



Teams exchange and staffs can watch plenty of game tapes of each other but every week there are wrinkles in approach and strategy tailored to the opponent. That unseen preparation is a important element of coaching and sports in general. Not sure what the particular taping issue is at jhu but certainly no need for practices to be tape that goes beyond internal parties.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:22 pm
by WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus
stupefied wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:58 pm
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:12 am I am COMPLETELY in favor of canning all of the scrimmages.

But you know a big reason why they won’t? That stupid videoing policy. The video exchange system.

Can’t tape a scrimmage, and there would be fears that, oh Lord, heavens to Betsy (who IS Betsy?), we can’t possibly have an opposing team have one more game film of us than we have of them.

But, you lose eligibility by playing in a fall or spring scrimmage anyway, so hell, SCRAP THEM.

Play for real, develop your bench, and let more of your team feel like they contributed to an actual Win.

As far as extra game video, these extra games could involve so much more experimentation, roster use, etc., that they would actually give other opponents a hell of a lot more to have to prepare for and get confused about. In and of themselves, they could lead to greater disinformation.

Information warfare. Use it. Do it. Scrap the scrimmage
Disagree on most all.

No longer lose year of eligibility by playing in scrimmages. Did away with that last year.

Time for experimenting and playing roster isn't the regular season when results of each factors equally into these formulaic calculations for postseason selection. Coaches including Danowski coach to win each and every game not to wet feet if game circumstances and margins dont allow. They amazingly tend to know their personnel and their present stages better than fans.

Players are constantly assessed by performances not only in game but in practices. Development and growth happens during the season and players can earn or lose time. When Johnny Rawson actually plays and looks good its' probably because he was readied not because he was held back.



Teams exchange and staffs can watch plenty of game tapes of each other but every week there are wrinkles in approach and strategy tailored to the opponent. That unseen preparation is a important element of coaching and sports in general. Not sure what the particular taping issue is at jhu but certainly no need for practices to be tape that goes beyond internal parties.
Good points, Stupe.

I wondered if scrimmage and eligibility had changed. Thanks for updating me on that. And that point renders pretty much everything else I said as moot.

But to give you the context of my thoughts, I’ll give you two data points from Tony Seaman eras, one at JHU and one from Towson.

The JHU era: the emergence of Dylan Schlott. Those were two beautiful upperclassman years. Yes, he came in with a knee injury that affected his freshman year, and his sophomore year was unremarkable, but holy hell, what a great last two years. I wish other players would do that.

The Towson era: well over half of Tony’s starters somehow got themselves suspended right before their upcoming game against Hopkins, and I figured JHU should win easily. Well, the Towson bench went nuts and Hopkins almost lost. That incident has caused me to always question who might be lurking on anyone’s bench and who could become major contributors.