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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:07 am
by foreverlax
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:01 am
holmes435 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:23 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:42 am
holmes435 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:45 pm So what you're saying are that immigrants are humans? And that some of them are bad, just like natural born US citizens?
Cept there ain't no "sanctuary" for US citizens. Your fellow citizens tend to turn your ass in to law enforcement. Besides if a few US citizens have to die or be robbed or raped or any other such type of crime... it is a small price to pay for all the good our immigration policy or lack there of brings to all Americans. :roll: The logic here on your part Holmes is if we already have X amount of bad people that are US citizens, well what is the big deal about bringing in a few more just for "good measure" The more the merrier right? :roll:


When you can lead them to the polling booths to pull the lever for your favored candidate with no face/finger/iris identification, what a small price to pay when there are larger needs on the table! Thunderdome!
How did they register to vote without proof they can vote?


Democrats run in fear of the American citizen realizing how much actual voting fraud occurs. Your reply is (drumroll): show me the fraud. LOL. Go to any voting booth in Broward or Miami-Dade and tell me if you think the system is not broken. The fraud thankfully gets outvoted by honest voting when it's across an entire state or a national election, for now anyway. Everyone involved in the voting process understands the tolerable limits of voting fraud, and we essentially turn a blind eye to it because the cost to contain it would overwhelm the system.

Provided we have enough honest voters, you can mostly beat the localized 1-2% of dishonest voting that occurs.
100+ million voters, so 1-2 million illegal votes.

Any foundation, like proof, to that number?

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:22 am
by Peter Brown
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:07 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:01 am
holmes435 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:23 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:42 am
holmes435 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:45 pm So what you're saying are that immigrants are humans? And that some of them are bad, just like natural born US citizens?
Cept there ain't no "sanctuary" for US citizens. Your fellow citizens tend to turn your ass in to law enforcement. Besides if a few US citizens have to die or be robbed or raped or any other such type of crime... it is a small price to pay for all the good our immigration policy or lack there of brings to all Americans. :roll: The logic here on your part Holmes is if we already have X amount of bad people that are US citizens, well what is the big deal about bringing in a few more just for "good measure" The more the merrier right? :roll:


When you can lead them to the polling booths to pull the lever for your favored candidate with no face/finger/iris identification, what a small price to pay when there are larger needs on the table! Thunderdome!
How did they register to vote without proof they can vote?


Democrats run in fear of the American citizen realizing how much actual voting fraud occurs. Your reply is (drumroll): show me the fraud. LOL. Go to any voting booth in Broward or Miami-Dade and tell me if you think the system is not broken. The fraud thankfully gets outvoted by honest voting when it's across an entire state or a national election, for now anyway. Everyone involved in the voting process understands the tolerable limits of voting fraud, and we essentially turn a blind eye to it because the cost to contain it would overwhelm the system.

Provided we have enough honest voters, you can mostly beat the localized 1-2% of dishonest voting that occurs.
100+ million voters, so 1-2 million illegal votes.

Any foundation, like proof, to that number?


I didn't post that the % is a function of the country, but rather a "localized 1-2%" problem. And it is absolutely that and more in some places. Baltimore is an ungovernable city where voting fraud (when the election is tight such as in the mayoral election of '16) probably scales north of 5%. For fraud to occur, the race must be tight and the city/locale must be practically lawless; in places such as Texas, the penalties for voting fraud are steep because it is such a large geographic state and it's tough to manage all that; the incentive to cheat are very strong for those who want added government benefits. If Texas goes blue, it'll be tough for them to recover their economy.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:34 am
by foreverlax
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:22 am
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:07 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:01 am
holmes435 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:23 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:42 am
holmes435 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:45 pm So what you're saying are that immigrants are humans? And that some of them are bad, just like natural born US citizens?
Cept there ain't no "sanctuary" for US citizens. Your fellow citizens tend to turn your ass in to law enforcement. Besides if a few US citizens have to die or be robbed or raped or any other such type of crime... it is a small price to pay for all the good our immigration policy or lack there of brings to all Americans. :roll: The logic here on your part Holmes is if we already have X amount of bad people that are US citizens, well what is the big deal about bringing in a few more just for "good measure" The more the merrier right? :roll:


When you can lead them to the polling booths to pull the lever for your favored candidate with no face/finger/iris identification, what a small price to pay when there are larger needs on the table! Thunderdome!
How did they register to vote without proof they can vote?


Democrats run in fear of the American citizen realizing how much actual voting fraud occurs. Your reply is (drumroll): show me the fraud. LOL. Go to any voting booth in Broward or Miami-Dade and tell me if you think the system is not broken. The fraud thankfully gets outvoted by honest voting when it's across an entire state or a national election, for now anyway. Everyone involved in the voting process understands the tolerable limits of voting fraud, and we essentially turn a blind eye to it because the cost to contain it would overwhelm the system.

Provided we have enough honest voters, you can mostly beat the localized 1-2% of dishonest voting that occurs.
100+ million voters, so 1-2 million illegal votes.

Any foundation, like proof, to that number?


I didn't post that the % is a function of the country, but rather a "localized 1-2%" problem. And it is absolutely that and more in some places. Baltimore is an ungovernable city where voting fraud (when the election is tight such as in the mayoral election of '16) probably scales north of 5%. For fraud to occur, the race must be tight and the city/locale must be practically lawless; in places such as Texas, the penalties for voting fraud are steep because it is such a large geographic state and it's tough to manage all that; the incentive to cheat are very strong for those who want added government benefits. If Texas goes blue, it'll be tough for them to recover their economy.
Adjsuting to the math -

3.9 million active registered voters in Maryland, as of Sept. 30

388k active registered voters in MD.

So between 3800 and 7500 voters were illegal.

Again, where are the facts to support this assertion?

https://elections.maryland.gov/press_ro ... County.pdf

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:24 am
by ABV 8.3%
What does voter fraud have to do with illegals and caravans marching to our borders? sot (stay on topic ) ;)

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:15 pm
by Peter Brown
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:34 am 3.9 million active registered voters in Maryland, as of Sept. 30

388k active registered voters in MD.

So between 3800 and 7500 voters were illegal.

Again, where are the facts to support this assertion?


In Baltimore City alone, in just ten precincts, these numbers could be pulled off within a 30 minute time frame.

(btw, in Baltimore, go to any precinct in West or East Baltimore where you need security to make it out alive (I am guessing that is about 50% of any of those voting halls; I am also guessing you are white). Come back here and let the board know how tightly controlled and transparent the voting is.

Question: how often do you think Baltimore City scrubs their voter rolls to account for deaths and moves? If I said 'never', would you believe that?

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:27 pm
by foreverlax
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:15 pm
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:34 am 3.9 million active registered voters in Maryland, as of Sept. 30

388k active registered voters in MD.

So between 3800 and 7500 voters were illegal.

Again, where are the facts to support this assertion?


In Baltimore City alone, in just ten precincts, these numbers could be pulled off within a 30 minute time frame.

(btw, in Baltimore, go to any precinct in West or East Baltimore where you need security to make it out alive (I am guessing that is about 50% of any of those voting halls; I am also guessing you are white). Come back here and let the board know how tightly controlled and transparent the voting is.

Question: how often do you think Baltimore City scrubs their voter rolls to account for deaths and moves? If I said 'never', would you believe that?
You didn't answer the question...just more opinion.

Answer to your question - No, not never...try google.
As many as 80,000 voters will have to cast provisional ballots in Tuesday’s primary election because of a computer glitch — four times as many as state officials initially announced.

On the eve of the election, Democratic legislative leaders called for the immediate resignation of Motor Vehicle Administrator Christine Nizer, who oversees the agency that failed to forward voter information to the Maryland Board of Elections.

Republican Gov. Larry Hogan ordered an audit of what went wrong.

The MVA discovered the problem was more widespread after it first announced late Saturday that nearly 19,000 were affected, according to a document obtained by The Baltimore Sun.
Way back in the summer of '18.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:35 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:22 am I didn't post that the % is a function of the country, but rather a "localized 1-2%" problem. And it is absolutely that and more in some places. Baltimore is an ungovernable city where voting fraud (when the election is tight such as in the mayoral election of '16) probably scales north of 5%. For fraud to occur, the race must be tight and the city/locale must be practically lawless; in places such as Texas, the penalties for voting fraud are steep because it is such a large geographic state and it's tough to manage all that; the incentive to cheat are very strong for those who want added government benefits. If Texas goes blue, it'll be tough for them to recover their economy.
So double down and post a bunch of made up stuff as fact.

Neat. Nice job.

Wait, wait-----let me guess: you're certain that these fraudulent illegal immigrant voters all vote Democrat. Your magic 8 ball sez so.

You're wrong, btw. Miami? 98% of the votes are made by illegal immigrants. How do I know this? I spent top dollar, and bought a next-ten 8ball that's better than yours.

So if you want to know how many illegal immigrants vote in a given city, let me know, and I'll give you the number.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:16 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:35 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:22 am I didn't post that the % is a function of the country, but rather a "localized 1-2%" problem. And it is absolutely that and more in some places. Baltimore is an ungovernable city where voting fraud (when the election is tight such as in the mayoral election of '16) probably scales north of 5%. For fraud to occur, the race must be tight and the city/locale must be practically lawless; in places such as Texas, the penalties for voting fraud are steep because it is such a large geographic state and it's tough to manage all that; the incentive to cheat are very strong for those who want added government benefits. If Texas goes blue, it'll be tough for them to recover their economy.
So double down and post a bunch of made up stuff as fact.

Neat. Nice job.

Wait, wait-----let me guess: you're certain that these fraudulent illegal immigrant voters all vote Democrat. Your magic 8 ball sez so.

You're wrong, btw. Miami? 98% of the votes are made by illegal immigrants. How do I know this? I spent top dollar, and bought a next-ten 8ball that's better than yours.

So if you want to know how many illegal immigrants vote in a given city, let me know, and I'll give you the number.


a fan, please ignore the obvious all you want... It's obviously much more politically correct to continue with your thesis of hear no fraud, see no fraud, speak no fraud, and that's totally understandable; it keeps one high up on that proverbial horse! That's the easier life anyway.

California’s San Diego County sports a 138 percent registration which equals 810,966 ghost voters. Los Angeles County isn't too shabby at 112 percent! That's 707,475 over-registrations.

I am sure no one takes advantage of that! No sirree.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:24 pm
by foreverlax
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:16 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:35 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:22 am I didn't post that the % is a function of the country, but rather a "localized 1-2%" problem. And it is absolutely that and more in some places. Baltimore is an ungovernable city where voting fraud (when the election is tight such as in the mayoral election of '16) probably scales north of 5%. For fraud to occur, the race must be tight and the city/locale must be practically lawless; in places such as Texas, the penalties for voting fraud are steep because it is such a large geographic state and it's tough to manage all that; the incentive to cheat are very strong for those who want added government benefits. If Texas goes blue, it'll be tough for them to recover their economy.
So double down and post a bunch of made up stuff as fact.

Neat. Nice job.

Wait, wait-----let me guess: you're certain that these fraudulent illegal immigrant voters all vote Democrat. Your magic 8 ball sez so.

You're wrong, btw. Miami? 98% of the votes are made by illegal immigrants. How do I know this? I spent top dollar, and bought a next-ten 8ball that's better than yours.

So if you want to know how many illegal immigrants vote in a given city, let me know, and I'll give you the number.


a fan, please ignore the obvious all you want... It's obviously much more politically correct to continue with your thesis of hear no fraud, see no fraud, speak no fraud, and that's totally understandable; it keeps one high up on that proverbial horse! That's the easier life anyway.

California’s San Diego County sports a 138 percent registration which equals 810,966 ghost voters. Los Angeles County isn't too shabby at 112 percent! That's 707,475 over-registrations.

I am sure no one takes advantage of that! No sirree.
So no real facts to back up your gut. Gottcha. ;)

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:34 pm
by Peter Brown
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:24 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:16 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:35 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:22 am I didn't post that the % is a function of the country, but rather a "localized 1-2%" problem. And it is absolutely that and more in some places. Baltimore is an ungovernable city where voting fraud (when the election is tight such as in the mayoral election of '16) probably scales north of 5%. For fraud to occur, the race must be tight and the city/locale must be practically lawless; in places such as Texas, the penalties for voting fraud are steep because it is such a large geographic state and it's tough to manage all that; the incentive to cheat are very strong for those who want added government benefits. If Texas goes blue, it'll be tough for them to recover their economy.
So double down and post a bunch of made up stuff as fact.

Neat. Nice job.

Wait, wait-----let me guess: you're certain that these fraudulent illegal immigrant voters all vote Democrat. Your magic 8 ball sez so.

You're wrong, btw. Miami? 98% of the votes are made by illegal immigrants. How do I know this? I spent top dollar, and bought a next-ten 8ball that's better than yours.

So if you want to know how many illegal immigrants vote in a given city, let me know, and I'll give you the number.


a fan, please ignore the obvious all you want... It's obviously much more politically correct to continue with your thesis of hear no fraud, see no fraud, speak no fraud, and that's totally understandable; it keeps one high up on that proverbial horse! That's the easier life anyway.

California’s San Diego County sports a 138 percent registration which equals 810,966 ghost voters. Los Angeles County isn't too shabby at 112 percent! That's 707,475 over-registrations.

I am sure no one takes advantage of that! No sirree.
So no real facts to back up your gut. Gottcha. ;)


Breaking news!!! forever and a fan claim OJ is innocent! after all, it wasn't proven!!! (other than Juice's blood at the scene, his hair on Ron Goldman, a deep cut on his finger, clear motive, history of violence with Nicole, cash/passport/goatee in the Bronco, Kato seeing him in the suit with blood found on it, blood on the socks, suit, and in the Bronco). but still, not proven because an unbiased jury said no! we see nothing!

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:39 pm
by foreverlax
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:34 pm
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:24 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:16 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:35 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:22 am I didn't post that the % is a function of the country, but rather a "localized 1-2%" problem. And it is absolutely that and more in some places. Baltimore is an ungovernable city where voting fraud (when the election is tight such as in the mayoral election of '16) probably scales north of 5%. For fraud to occur, the race must be tight and the city/locale must be practically lawless; in places such as Texas, the penalties for voting fraud are steep because it is such a large geographic state and it's tough to manage all that; the incentive to cheat are very strong for those who want added government benefits. If Texas goes blue, it'll be tough for them to recover their economy.
So double down and post a bunch of made up stuff as fact.

Neat. Nice job.

Wait, wait-----let me guess: you're certain that these fraudulent illegal immigrant voters all vote Democrat. Your magic 8 ball sez so.

You're wrong, btw. Miami? 98% of the votes are made by illegal immigrants. How do I know this? I spent top dollar, and bought a next-ten 8ball that's better than yours.

So if you want to know how many illegal immigrants vote in a given city, let me know, and I'll give you the number.


a fan, please ignore the obvious all you want... It's obviously much more politically correct to continue with your thesis of hear no fraud, see no fraud, speak no fraud, and that's totally understandable; it keeps one high up on that proverbial horse! That's the easier life anyway.

California’s San Diego County sports a 138 percent registration which equals 810,966 ghost voters. Los Angeles County isn't too shabby at 112 percent! That's 707,475 over-registrations.

I am sure no one takes advantage of that! No sirree.
So no real facts to back up your gut. Gottcha. ;)


Breaking news!!! forever and a fan claim OJ is innocent! after all, it wasn't proven!!! (other than Juice's blood at the scene, his hair on Ron Goldman, a deep cut on his finger, clear motive, history of violence with Nicole, cash/passport/goatee in the Bronco, Kato seeing him in the suit with blood found on it, blood on the socks, suit, and in the Bronco). but still, not proven because an unbiased jury said no! we see nothing!
All the things you listed - blood, hair, cuts, etc...those are called facts. But you know that. ;)

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:42 pm
by Peter Brown
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:39 pm All the things you listed - blood, hair, cuts, etc...those are called facts. But you know that. ;)

You mean like this: at least eight of the 19 foreign-national September 11 hijackers had registered to vote in either Florida or Virginia.

Also, Tammany Hall is a figment of your historical imagination. Couldn't happen today, doesn't happen today! No Sirree.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:44 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:16 pm a fan, please ignore the obvious all you want... It's obviously much more politically correct to continue with your thesis of hear no fraud, see no fraud, speak no fraud, and that's totally understandable; it keeps one high up on that proverbial horse! That's the easier life anyway.
Dude, how old are you?

We've asked you repeatedly for where you're getting your "facts" from. You ignore this, and tell us that we're ignoring the obvious.

You're a walking FoxNation talking point billboard. Nicely done.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:16 pm California’s San Diego County sports a 138 percent registration which equals 810,966 ghost voters. Los Angeles County isn't too shabby at 112 percent! That's 707,475 over-registrations.

Who cares? People move, and people die. Registration is irrelevant. Voting is what matters.

We can't get people to the ballot box, and FoxNation has sold you on what----that millions are using fake ID's to both register and vote in California? Oh yeah, there's nothing illegal immigrants like more than showing up to government offices, hoping they don't get deported.

And to top it if, shocker of all shockers, you think these people vote 100% Democrats?

This is without a doubt, one of THE dumbest conspiracy theories concocted by FoxNation. Nice job buying this nonsense.


If this is such a concern of you and FoxNation, why do Republican run States allow for absentee ballots? Nothing would make me happier than to make it so elderly FoxNation viewers can't vote because it's hard for them to get around. You on board for that, too?

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:51 pm
by CU88
r hero and Liar in Chief

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!


Literally one of the requirements for DACA is *not* having a criminal record.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:51 pm
by foreverlax
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:42 pm
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:39 pm All the things you listed - blood, hair, cuts, etc...those are called facts. But you know that. ;)

You mean like this: at least eight of the 19 foreign-national September 11 hijackers had registered to vote in either Florida or Virginia.

Also, Tammany Hall is a figment of your historical imagination. Couldn't happen today, doesn't happen today! No Sirree.
I was going to ask for a link to your quote...found it. https://www.city-journal.org/html/how-s ... 12824.html

If he was writing a term paper, the author would have gotten an F right out of the gate....same statement you quoted, but nothing to support that claim.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:52 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:42 pm

You mean like this: at least eight of the 19 foreign-national September 11 hijackers had registered to vote in either Florida or Virginia.
Woowwweee. Someone posted it on the internet. It must be true. I mean, obviously it's true.

Here's one for you. "Pete Brown is registered to vote in 10 States".

It's true, man. I read it on the internet.

Here's a question for you and your fellow FoxNation Fudpuckers: there are 22 States that are under complete Republican control in 2019. Governor, and both Houses. This includes your Florida.

How come they haven't fixed this vast conspiracy of yours? Did they forget? After all, the fraud is widespread, and you are sure----you read it on the internet, so this must be true----the fraudulent voters all vote Democrat.

So what's your reasoning here? Why haven't they fixed the problem.

And your own Florida? Not only do they allow absentee ballots ... they allow people to register to vote online. The State has NO WAY of knowing who is registering to vote. But it's all cool, right?

:roll: This is so stupid. Why are you falling for this?

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:26 pm
by a fan
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:51 pm I was going to ask for a link to your quote...found it. https://www.city-journal.org/html/how-s ... 12824.html

If he was writing a term paper, the author would have gotten an F right out of the gate....same statement you quoted, but nothing to support that claim.
Are you kidding, forever? That's the most iron clad, science-filled internet posted truth I've ever seen!

How can you NOT be impressed by Pete Browns "research" into this subject?

Hey Pete: I'm told that both Obama and Trump were born in Kenya. Can you do some "internet research" for the forum, and figure out if that's right?

Thanks in advances.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:40 pm
by RedFromMI
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:26 pm
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:51 pm I was going to ask for a link to your quote...found it. https://www.city-journal.org/html/how-s ... 12824.html

If he was writing a term paper, the author would have gotten an F right out of the gate....same statement you quoted, but nothing to support that claim.
Are you kidding, forever? That's the most iron clad, science-filled internet posted truth I've ever seen!

How can you NOT be impressed by Pete Browns "research" into this subject?

Hey Pete: I'm told that both Obama and Trump were born in Kenya. Can you do some "internet research" for the forum, and figure out if that's right?

Thanks in advances.
Standard, as it seems, conflation of registration issues with voting fraud (not the same thing). And the really scary look back into prior machine politics where there really was vote counting fraud is trying to make their audience mad.

Someone improperly registered and illegally voting is the scare. In practice it _rarely_ happens today.

Keeping people off the voting roles by denying registration (especially felony disenfranchisement), removing registration (inappropriate "cleaning" of registrations from the system), or making it impossible to vote (not enough machines where needed, close convenient poll locations, onerous voter ID requirements) are much more common. It has been absolutely essential in keeping the Rs in power in numerous locations...

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:58 pm
by foreverlax
RedFromMI wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:40 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:26 pm
foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:51 pm I was going to ask for a link to your quote...found it. https://www.city-journal.org/html/how-s ... 12824.html

If he was writing a term paper, the author would have gotten an F right out of the gate....same statement you quoted, but nothing to support that claim.
Are you kidding, forever? That's the most iron clad, science-filled internet posted truth I've ever seen!

How can you NOT be impressed by Pete Browns "research" into this subject?

Hey Pete: I'm told that both Obama and Trump were born in Kenya. Can you do some "internet research" for the forum, and figure out if that's right?

Thanks in advances.
Standard, as it seems, conflation of registration issues with voting fraud (not the same thing). And the really scary look back into prior machine politics where there really was vote counting fraud is trying to make their audience mad.

Someone improperly registered and illegally voting is the scare. In practice it _rarely_ happens today.

Keeping people off the voting roles by denying registration (especially felony disenfranchisement), removing registration (inappropriate "cleaning" of registrations from the system), or making it impossible to vote (not enough machines where needed, close convenient poll locations, onerous voter ID requirements) are much more common. It has been absolutely essential in keeping the Rs in power in numerous locations...
This is just another of Pete's fact-less rabbit holes.

Another article by the same author, When Election Officials Ignore Voter Fraud, We Need More Oversight makes his case using another voting fraud conspiracy peddler, J. Christian Adams. Adams previously worked in the Justice Department’s Voting Rights Section and now heads the Public Interest Law Foundation.
The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) is an American 501(c)(3)[1] charity[citation needed] based in Indianapolis, Indiana[2] focused on "election integrity" in the United States.[3] The nonprofit was constituted in 2012 to “assist states and others” to fight “lawlessness" in American elections. They assert that "large numbers of ineligible aliens are registering to vote and casting ballots", although lists that they have displayed of such supposed voters prove to actually include American natives who are eligible voters.[4] PILF said theirs lists had been based on state government lists of declared “non-citizens” removed from local voter rolls. Some U.S. citizens were wrongfully purged in the process.[5]
Seems that Adams found a sympathetic ear in Trump and was asked to served on Trump’s Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.

Same 6 people making the same unsubstantiated claims. :roll:

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:12 pm
by holmes435
I also can't find any proof that the 9/11 hijackers were registered to vote. Anyone have any facts to back that up?

Fund claims that eight of the 19 hijackers on September 11, 2001, were registered to vote, but he offers no corroborating evidence, and a later study found the claim highly unlikely.

Looks like you fell for the far-right kool-aid PB. I'm guessing you read it here since you also mentioned Tammany?