JUST the Stolen Documents/Mar-A-Lago/"Judge" Cannon Trial

[tech37]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

Why didn't Obama do something about it?...he knew. Perhaps instead, he and his IC saw an opportunity to exploit their carelessness?

Calling IG Horowitz and FP Durham...

Get Over It.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/58761404 ... ce-in-2016

"So why didn't Obama's administration do more?
That isn't clear."

[MDlaxfan76]

What you can't fathom is the fact that Clinton won the popular vote and more people wanted her in office than Trump. The election wasn't a rejection of Clinton and Obama policies - the voters did actually want them.

Nah, lesser of two evils holmes. Some voters thought Clinton was lesser of two evils and other voters Trump the lesser of two evils. Bottom line, two awful choices

I sure thought it was two awful choices.
But you do keep skirting the fundamental point that more voters chose Clinton than Trump. Thank god for the Electoral College

Unless you buy Trump's BS that that those millions more voters weren't actually Americans...

Yup, that's how it's set up.
The minority of voters can win over the preference of the majority of voters.
Didn't use to happen, but it did this past go round.

I don't think that's sustainable over the long haul.

[MDlaxfan76]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

Why didn't Obama do something about it?...he knew. Perhaps instead, he and his IC saw an opportunity to exploit their carelessness?

Calling IG Horowitz and FP Durham...

Get Over It.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/58761404 ... ce-in-2016

"So why didn't Obama's administration do more?
That isn't clear."

I dunno why the right wing remains so dense on this.
Obama miscalculated and/or didn't know how extensive the effort was in reality. He saw the issue, but not the magnitude, and discounted the impact.

And he thought that making a stink would have been seen as baldly partisan and that such would be worse, both in the election and as a precedent for an outgoing Administration.

He assumed HRC would win and the issue could be addressed post election without the partisanship.

[jhu72]

If Trump wins in 2020, it will happen again. No reason to believe he will receive more votes in 2020 than the democrat.

[MDlaxfan76]

Ever the optimist, old salt.

And I appreciate that.

[MDlaxfan76]

If Trump wins in 2020, it will happen again. No reason to believe he will receive more votes in 2020 than the democrat.

Yup, and that's not going to be sustainable...unless it leads to full blown authoritarian rule.
Which is what concerns me most.

[jhu72]

If Trump wins in 2020, it will happen again. No reason to believe he will receive more votes in 2020 than the democrat.

Yup, and that's not going to be sustainable...unless it leads to full blown authoritarian rule.
Which is what concerns me most.

If it does happen in 2020, I expect a much bigger backlash than in years past.

[tech37]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

Why didn't Obama do something about it?...he knew. Perhaps instead, he and his IC saw an opportunity to exploit their carelessness?

Calling IG Horowitz and FP Durham...

Get Over It.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/58761404 ... ce-in-2016

"So why didn't Obama's administration do more?
That isn't clear."

I dunno why the right wing remains so dense on this. Right wing
Obama miscalculated and/or didn't know how extensive the effort was in reality. He saw the issue, but not the magnitude, and discounted the impact. Translation...Obama f'd up

And he thought that making a stink would have been seen as baldly partisan and that such would be worse, both in the election and as a precedent for an outgoing Administration. Amazing rationalization

[Typical Lax Dad]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

Why didn't Obama do something about it?...he knew. Perhaps instead, he and his IC saw an opportunity to exploit their carelessness?

Calling IG Horowitz and FP Durham...

Get Over It.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/58761404 ... ce-in-2016

"So why didn't Obama's administration do more?
That isn't clear."

I dunno why the right wing remains so dense on this. Right wing
Obama miscalculated and/or didn't know how extensive the effort was in reality. He saw the issue, but not the magnitude, and discounted the impact. Translation...Obama f'd up

And he thought that making a stink would have been seen as baldly partisan and that such would be worse, both in the election and as a precedent for an outgoing Administration. Amazing rationalization

Why hasn't the Trump administration done more to defend against it?

[a fan]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

Why didn't Obama do something about it?...he knew. Perhaps instead, he and his IC saw an opportunity to exploit their carelessness?

Calling IG Horowitz and FP Durham...

Get Over It.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/58761404 ... ce-in-2016

"So why didn't Obama's administration do more?
That isn't clear."

You know exactly why: because no matter what Obama did, it would have been construed by you and all the other Obama haters as wrong.

Give me your version of what you think it would have looked like if Obama had handled the Russia issue flawlessly, and I'll give you the FoxNation spin as to how it was "wrong".

Not trying to pick a fight. There was no "right" way to handle this, and if Trump had been any other President, he and his crew wouldn't have lied about Russian contacts every chance they got, and he sure as *hit wouldn't have fired Comey. Comey would have been allowed to finish his report, tell the AG he found no laws broken, and that would have been the end of it for all but the die hard tin foil hat wearers.

[tech37]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

Why didn't Obama do something about it?...he knew. Perhaps instead, he and his IC saw an opportunity to exploit their carelessness?

Calling IG Horowitz and FP Durham...

Get Over It.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/58761404 ... ce-in-2016

"So why didn't Obama's administration do more?
That isn't clear."

Give me your version of what you think it would have looked like if Obama had handled the Russia issue flawlessly, and I'll give you the FoxNation spin as to how it was "wrong".

Oh I'll get right on that for you a fan...sure. Of course my version and FoxNews are one in the same so what's the point?

Nah, I'll just wait for the investigations to play out, then form my final opinion.

[dislaxxic]

I see the the daily rope-a-dope of our favorite forum "moderate" continues unabated. Nice work AF. He doesn't even realize he's out cold on his feet!

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[Typical Lax Dad]

I see the the daily rope-a-dope of our favorite forum "moderate" continues unabated. Nice work AF. He doesn't even realize he's out cold on his feet!

..

Yep!!!

[a fan]

Oh I'll get right on that for you a fan...sure. Of course my version and FoxNews are one in the same so what's the point?

Wasn't asking you to do that. I was honestly not trying to pick a fight

Simply pointing out that there isn't a "correct" way to do what was asked of Obama. The problem isn't Obama. The problem is that our Federal government is not designed properly. There is no way to investigate the President for wrongdoing without conflicts of interest and/or heavy leaking to the media.

Same reason Mark Felt leaked to the WaPo. It was his only move.

[jhu72]

So according to PBS, Syrian authorities are claiming up to 800 ISIS prisoners have now been released. Amb Jefferies claims only dozens. How he would know, no one seems to know.

[old salt]

So according to PBS, Syrian authorities are claiming up to 800 ISIS prisoners have now been released. Amb Jefferies claims only dozens. How he would know, no one seems to know.

Probably by talking to his staff still embedded with the SDF in NE Syria.
How does PBS know ?

Remarkable performance by Sen Jim Jeffrey today before the Senate Foreign Relations Comm.
Lot's of good info. Best summaries at 2:14 & 2:22.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?465519-1/ ... withdrawal

I learned more from Jeffrey's testimony than everything I've found in the MSM since this thing started.
Any news outfit could distill it into a 10-15 min series of clips.
Our MSM is clueless. BBC, DW & Al Jazeera are days ahead.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/ ... 33484.html

[jhu72]

So according to PBS, Syrian authorities are claiming up to 800 ISIS prisoners have now been released. Amb Jefferies claims only dozens. How he would know, no one seems to know.

Probably by talking to his staff still embedded with the SDF in NE Syria.
How does PBS know ? -- they are repeating statements made by the Syrians and the Amb -- you probably could have figured that out for yourself

Remarkable performance by Sen Jim Jeffrey today before the Senate Foreign Relations Comm.
Lot's of good info. Best summaries at 2:14 & 2:22.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?465519-1/ ... withdrawal

I learned more from Jeffrey's testimony than everything I've found in the MSM since this thing started.
Any news outfit could distill it into a 10-15 min series of clips.
Our MSM is clueless. BBC, DW & Al Jazeera are days ahead.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/ ... 33484.html

[jhu72]

Feels so good to have the Russian's laughing at us and making a play for the Kurds.

[foreverlax]

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Big success on the Turkey/Syria Border. Safe Zone created! Ceasefire has held and combat missions have ended. Kurds are safe and have worked very nicely with us. Captured ISIS prisoners secured. I will be making a statement at 11:00 A.M. from the White House. Thank you!

Thank you to Putin!!

[Trinity]

"New York City Bar Calls for US AG William Barr's Recusal in Ukraine Matter. If Barr does not recuse himself, the bar association's statement said, 'he should resign or, failing that, be subject to sanctions, including possible removal, by Congress'."

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