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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:18 pm
by ABV 8.3%
JoeMauer89 wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:14 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:36 pm
njbill wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:27 pm We’ve hit the 220,000 mark.
Well over half the war dead for the US for WWII. Considering excess deaths, over 2/3.

In a half year...

US involvement in WWII was basically 4 1/2 years (Dec 1941 to summer 1945).
The comparisons to WWII are quite unnecessary. You do realize that no matter how you frame it you are posting that as a reminder to those who you don't think take the virus seriously. On this particular thread, that is a MINORITY. And I promise, those that you perceive don't on this thread, practice good hygiene, wear a mask when it is necessary to do so and take the risks that they feel are worth taking. There is no comparison between WWII and this communicable disease. There is no other purpose to this post, other than to prove some sort of point. Again, just because somebody believes differently in regards to the virus, DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE WRONG! There's no need to consistently remark about the level of deaths we've hit. What in god's name does this accomplish? Again, you've not been the only to post this there have been many. It's a communicable illness, not the black plague. Try and think bigger picture, and spend less time ruminating on what could/shoulda been done. It does zero good, zero.

JoeMauer89!
Serious? Or, seriously.

If you are old, with multiple health conditions (young, for that matter ).......it's potentially serious. Just like the seasonal flu. Or the hundreds of others resipatory ailments.

For a high school senior that lost their lacrosse season? It's really this simple. Our politicians don't wear masks. How did the Dr. from Virginia, and his wife, test positive for V19? He IS the Governor, is he not? remember all the infotainment railing against his lack of concern?

yeah, us neither.

carry on

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:19 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:56 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.

Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.

But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
well, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
Mexico, Brazil and India.....

We’re # 36! we’re #36! We’re #36!!
i know, right? that's like others receiving votes.

if we don't get into the top 25, it's like it doesn't matter.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:20 pm
by ABV 8.3%
RedFromMI wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:58 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:14 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:36 pm
njbill wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:27 pm We’ve hit the 220,000 mark.
Well over half the war dead for the US for WWII. Considering excess deaths, over 2/3.

In a half year...

US involvement in WWII was basically 4 1/2 years (Dec 1941 to summer 1945).
The comparisons to WWII are quite unnecessary. You do realize that no matter how you frame it you are posting that as a reminder to those who you don't think take the virus seriously. On this particular thread, that is a MINORITY. And I promise, those that you perceive don't on this thread, practice good hygiene, wear a mask when it is necessary to do so and take the risks that they feel are worth taking. There is no comparison between WWII and this communicable disease. There is no other purpose to this post, other than to prove some sort of point. Again, just because somebody believes differently in regards to the virus, DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE WRONG! There's no need to consistently remark about the level of deaths we've hit. What in god's name does this accomplish? Again, you've not been the only to post this there have been many. It's a communicable illness, not the black plague. Try and think bigger picture, and spend less time ruminating on what could/shoulda been done. It does zero good, zero.

JoeMauer89!
We keep mentioning it because the single biggest cause of the huge number for the US has been the lack of a unified effort based on actual medical and scientific knowledge and data - and the FACT that the current administration bears the largest responsibility for this lack.

It is supposed to offend you. But save your anger for who is responsible.
re read your words. Seriously. Read them out loud.

What YOU think IS insane.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:20 pm
by ggait
njbill wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:44 pm Pete, don’t look at this. It’s one of those fascinating progression things. Florida comes out on top (or at the bottom depending on your perspective).

https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status ... 98210?s=10
Mission Accomplished! Back to work! Re-open! Ron D for president!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:25 pm
by wgdsr
ggait wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:20 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:44 pm Pete, don’t look at this. It’s one of those fascinating progression things. Florida comes out on top (or at the bottom depending on your perspective).

https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status ... 98210?s=10
Mission Accomplished! Back to work! Re-open! Ron D for president!
one thing's for sure based on this. i'm not going to see a doc in ny, ct, nj or mass. at least not in a hospital.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:26 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:19 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:56 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.

Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.

But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
well, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
Mexico, Brazil and India.....

We’re # 36! we’re #36! We’re #36!!
i know, right? that's like others receiving votes.

if we don't get into the top 25, it's like it doesn't matter.
:lol:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:26 pm
by ABV 8.3%
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:33 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:00 pm
Thanks, good review of our current status.
Why focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
pretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?
I think the #'s could be argued a bit earlier than that as well, but, yes, the language used is real time failure. Current death rates, going back at least into May have been much worse than any other developed nation.
You best find out the answer to this question:

Are other developed nations handing out tens of thousands of dollars to healthcare facilities, for V19 care? Or, death by?

Does the state of New York just have to "assume" a nursing home residents death was due to V19, or do they actually do an autopsy?

(don't pull your usual lame excuse of going down some rabbit hole....answer the questions)

Otherwize, your opinions are just that. Facts matter.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:28 pm
by ABV 8.3%
njbill wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:44 pm Pete, don’t look at this. It’s one of those fascinating progression things. Florida comes out on top (or at the bottom depending on your perspective).

https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status ... 98210?s=10
refuse to look at twatter posts.....but guessing you are providing a link to positive V19 tests, NOT what matters. Especially deaths in folks under the age of 65. Provide THAT twatter info please.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:31 pm
by ABV 8.3%
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:14 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:12 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:53 pm
njbill wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:27 pm We’ve hit the 220,000 mark.
awesome.......lots and lots more jobs are opening up because of all these deaths. :arrow: :arrow:

half of my daughters class have died. from covid. Same for all those locked in dorm rooms, because they tested "postitive", with zero symptoms. dead.

carry on. Casino's are essential :roll:
😂 😂

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nevad ... 2020-03-17

https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_ ... 90c38.html
and re opened in June......carry on
Yep. So has a lot it things! I looked for you on Morrissey last week!
What the heck......are you stalking me?

Show up at Malibu beach at 6am....you'll see me. I'm the guy smoking and stretching......not today tho....yuck.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:33 pm
by ABV 8.3%
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:19 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:56 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.

Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.

But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
well, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
Mexico, Brazil and India.....

We’re # 36! we’re #36! We’re #36!!
i know, right? that's like others receiving votes.

if we don't get into the top 25, it's like it doesn't matter.
What's the USA rpi........that's all that matters in college lacrosse, who you lost too.....

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:35 pm
by wgdsr
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:33 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:19 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:56 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.

Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.

But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
well, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
Mexico, Brazil and India.....

We’re # 36! we’re #36! We’re #36!!
i know, right? that's like others receiving votes.

if we don't get into the top 25, it's like it doesn't matter.
What's the USA rpi........that's all that matters in college lacrosse, who you lost too.....
we need to get a system based on mass recruits and new england losses. then, the world will be balanced and stars aligned.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:40 pm
by ABV 8.3%
ggait wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:20 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:44 pm Pete, don’t look at this. It’s one of those fascinating progression things. Florida comes out on top (or at the bottom depending on your perspective).

https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status ... 98210?s=10
Mission Accomplished! Back to work! Re-open! Ron D for president!
Deaths.......not positive tests.

test everyone....please. EVERYONE.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:43 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:31 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:14 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:12 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:53 pm
njbill wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:27 pm We’ve hit the 220,000 mark.
awesome.......lots and lots more jobs are opening up because of all these deaths. :arrow: :arrow:

half of my daughters class have died. from covid. Same for all those locked in dorm rooms, because they tested "postitive", with zero symptoms. dead.

carry on. Casino's are essential :roll:
😂 😂

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nevad ... 2020-03-17

https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_ ... 90c38.html
and re opened in June......carry on
Yep. So has a lot it things! I looked for you on Morrissey last week!
What the heck......are you stalking me?

Show up at Malibu beach at 6am....you'll see me. I'm the guy smoking and stretching......not today tho....yuck.
I couldn’t help but notice the Santander sign!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:18 pm
by ggait
Deaths.......not positive tests.
Fl is among the worst for deaths per million population for the last 5-6 months. You can look it up.

7 day average daily deaths were 30 as of June 1.

Went up to 184 as of August 5.

98 as of today -- so 3X where it was back in early June. And looking like they are more likely to be going up -- again.

In contrast, NYS was 98 on June 1. 10 as of today.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:40 pm
by ABV 8.3%
ggait wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:18 pm
Deaths.......not positive tests.
Fl is among the worst for deaths per million population for the last 5-6 months. You can look it up.

7 day average daily deaths were 30 as of June 1.

Went up to 184 as of August 5.

98 as of today -- so 3X where it was back in early June. And looking like they are more likely to be going up -- again.

In contrast, NYS was 98 on June 1. 10 as of today.
How does Florida reimburse healthcare facilities for covid deaths?

https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/cares-a ... index.html

Ignore the reality the they are , some at least, abusing this welfare. Why the extra medicare funds? Keep on ignoring this. Almost 1000 pages, and very, very little discussion on the covid payouts.

I am fer sure mdtuxfan is researching, at this very moment, how the EU is doing it :lol:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:56 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:40 pm
ggait wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:18 pm
Deaths.......not positive tests.
Fl is among the worst for deaths per million population for the last 5-6 months. You can look it up.

7 day average daily deaths were 30 as of June 1.

Went up to 184 as of August 5.

98 as of today -- so 3X where it was back in early June. And looking like they are more likely to be going up -- again.

In contrast, NYS was 98 on June 1. 10 as of today.
How does Florida reimburse healthcare facilities for covid deaths?

https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/cares-a ... index.html

Ignore the reality the they are , some at least, abusing this welfare. Why the extra medicare funds? Keep on ignoring this. Almost 1000 pages, and very, very little discussion on the covid payouts.

I am fer sure mdtuxfan is researching, at this very moment, how the EU is doing it :lol:
They are all lying. Nobody is dying from COVID.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:59 pm
by wgdsr
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:40 pm
ggait wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:18 pm
Deaths.......not positive tests.
Fl is among the worst for deaths per million population for the last 5-6 months. You can look it up.

7 day average daily deaths were 30 as of June 1.

Went up to 184 as of August 5.

98 as of today -- so 3X where it was back in early June. And looking like they are more likely to be going up -- again.

In contrast, NYS was 98 on June 1. 10 as of today.
How does Florida reimburse healthcare facilities for covid deaths?

https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/cares-a ... index.html

Ignore the reality the they are , some at least, abusing this welfare. Why the extra medicare funds? Keep on ignoring this. Almost 1000 pages, and very, very little discussion on the covid payouts.

I am fer sure mdtuxfan is researching, at this very moment, how the EU is doing it :lol:
dude, excess deaths are 20% higher. or more. that could be from "flattening the curve", or keeping people in and issues from having to control it.
some of us understand it. i share your frustration with others that post, and more importantly those that have a bullhorn, about comparisons to suit agendas.
but this is a canary. at best.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:35 pm
by ABV 8.3%
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:56 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:40 pm
ggait wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:18 pm
Deaths.......not positive tests.
Fl is among the worst for deaths per million population for the last 5-6 months. You can look it up.

7 day average daily deaths were 30 as of June 1.

Went up to 184 as of August 5.

98 as of today -- so 3X where it was back in early June. And looking like they are more likely to be going up -- again.

In contrast, NYS was 98 on June 1. 10 as of today.
How does Florida reimburse healthcare facilities for covid deaths?

https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/cares-a ... index.html

Ignore the reality the they are , some at least, abusing this welfare. Why the extra medicare funds? Keep on ignoring this. Almost 1000 pages, and very, very little discussion on the covid payouts.

I am fer sure mdtuxfan is researching, at this very moment, how the EU is doing it :lol:
They are all lying. Nobody is dying from COVID.
It's NOT lying, if, like the state of New York, the rules are vague. Besides, it's a crime, not lying. And this is just the folks who get caught.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/legal/ ... raud-cases

AND...

https://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/enforcement/cmp/cmp-ae.asp

slaps on the wrist. you awta know, wallstreet bankster.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:46 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
https://apple.news/ADEG-sOvpTlavHiak37Pcrg

Getting back to something that resembles a new normal is possible. Follow their lead!!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:49 pm
by Typical Lax Dad