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youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:17 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

Then why are places still not allowing businesses to open, churches to open, arguing for a Zoom debate? It has gotten out of hand. Teachers and schools had summer school but are complaining about full time in school classes but are okay with a couple days a week. It’s turned into a perpetual debilitating state of indecision.

A group of people sitting inside breathing the same air for an extended period of time isn’t safe. The pastor is out of a little money. We are open far more extensively than we were in April and May, would you agree? Churches will be one of the lagging industries.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:21 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:17 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

Then why are places still not allowing businesses to open, churches to open, arguing for a Zoom debate? It has gotten out of hand. Teachers and schools had summer school but are complaining about full time in school classes but are okay with a couple days a week. It’s turned into a perpetual debilitating state of indecision.

A group of people sitting inside breathing the same air for an extended period of time isn’t safe. The pastor is out of a little money. We are open far more extensively than we were in April and May, would you agree? Churches will be one of the lagging industries.

Our church is open with reserved assigned limited seating. As an usher, we open doors and windows for cross ventilation, no paper bulletins, and video screens to follow along.

Regarding schools, they can do the same. In addition, most school air system can be adjusted to meet and allow for proper ventilation. They don’t want to spend the money for filtration and added energy costs. Many private schools are doing just that and ahead of the curve. We’ve seen it here locally where progressive Montgomery County didn’t want private schools to open, even after Gov Hogan said they could. Teachers unions are also screwing the kids....again.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:43 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:21 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:17 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

Then why are places still not allowing businesses to open, churches to open, arguing for a Zoom debate? It has gotten out of hand. Teachers and schools had summer school but are complaining about full time in school classes but are okay with a couple days a week. It’s turned into a perpetual debilitating state of indecision.

A group of people sitting inside breathing the same air for an extended period of time isn’t safe. The pastor is out of a little money. We are open far more extensively than we were in April and May, would you agree? Churches will be one of the lagging industries.

Our church is open with reserved assigned limited seating. As an usher, we open doors and windows for cross ventilation, no paper bulletins, and video screens to follow along.

Regarding schools, they can do the same. In addition, most school air system can be adjusted to meet and allow for proper ventilation. They don’t want to spend the money for filtration and added energy costs. Many private schools are doing just that and ahead of the curve. We’ve seen it here locally where progressive Montgomery County didn’t want private schools to open, even after Gov Hogan said they could. Teachers unions are also screwing the kids....again.

Are we more open than we were in April and May? My daughter was home last Spring. She is on campus this fall. BTW, her school’s positivity rate is 0.02% after close to 40,000 tests. It’s a small school. Other schools in her state are being shutdown and quarantined. I asked her about social life on campus. Her and boyfriend said it’s not that different.

My wife teaches.....off campus students were just banned from returning to campus and she is going to stop teaching in person. Going remote. Kids want to party and carouse. She isn’t putting her life on the line.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:56 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:43 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:21 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:17 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

Then why are places still not allowing businesses to open, churches to open, arguing for a Zoom debate? It has gotten out of hand. Teachers and schools had summer school but are complaining about full time in school classes but are okay with a couple days a week. It’s turned into a perpetual debilitating state of indecision.

A group of people sitting inside breathing the same air for an extended period of time isn’t safe. The pastor is out of a little money. We are open far more extensively than we were in April and May, would you agree? Churches will be one of the lagging industries.

Our church is open with reserved assigned limited seating. As an usher, we open doors and windows for cross ventilation, no paper bulletins, and video screens to follow along.

Regarding schools, they can do the same. In addition, most school air system can be adjusted to meet and allow for proper ventilation. They don’t want to spend the money for filtration and added energy costs. Many private schools are doing just that and ahead of the curve. We’ve seen it here locally where progressive Montgomery County didn’t want private schools to open, even after Gov Hogan said they could. Teachers unions are also screwing the kids....again.

Are we more open than we were in April and May? My daughter was home last Spring. She is on campus this fall.

Yes. Curious, is your daughter attending class in the school with teachers? My son, has been back on campus as well (actually living off campus) and only has one in person class and teacher still zooms in.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:59 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:56 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:43 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:21 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:17 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

Then why are places still not allowing businesses to open, churches to open, arguing for a Zoom debate? It has gotten out of hand. Teachers and schools had summer school but are complaining about full time in school classes but are okay with a couple days a week. It’s turned into a perpetual debilitating state of indecision.

A group of people sitting inside breathing the same air for an extended period of time isn’t safe. The pastor is out of a little money. We are open far more extensively than we were in April and May, would you agree? Churches will be one of the lagging industries.

Our church is open with reserved assigned limited seating. As an usher, we open doors and windows for cross ventilation, no paper bulletins, and video screens to follow along.

Regarding schools, they can do the same. In addition, most school air system can be adjusted to meet and allow for proper ventilation. They don’t want to spend the money for filtration and added energy costs. Many private schools are doing just that and ahead of the curve. We’ve seen it here locally where progressive Montgomery County didn’t want private schools to open, even after Gov Hogan said they could. Teachers unions are also screwing the kids....again.

Are we more open than we were in April and May? My daughter was home last Spring. She is on campus this fall.

Yes. Curious, is your daughter attending class in the school with teachers? My son, has been back on campus as well (actually living off campus) and only has one in person class and teacher still zooms in.

3 of her classes are in person. My wife also had 2 classes plus a lab in person. Other than lab, she is going remote.

27 States With a Game Plan To Reopen the US Economy

The current state of re-opening. We are pretty far along and we didn’t shut down as deeply or as long as Western Europe. We don’t have the will power.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/11/health/u ... index.html

A quarter of a million seems reasonable

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

"Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time" You make this statement like this is a fact. Whatever you want to believe, its ENTIRELY up to the general public. There are FAR more who are beyond frustrated with the restrictions and with each passing month the sentiment begins to change. There's a whole world out there of people under 60 who are ready to resume normalcy. I use that number because overwhelmingly the largest portion of hesitancy comes from that group 60+. I am youngin myself and am around many younger people. People in their 30's 40's 50's have grown beyond TIRED of the restrictions, especially in NY. It doesn't mean they are acting like complete fools, they no longer are accepting the fact that the virus has to rule every aspect of life. You only get one perspective on this site, because for the most part all of those who have similar opinions (about 9-10, you know who you are) are 60+. They simply fail to see the perspective from any other angle, and it's clearly evident every day in reading this thread. Realize, that is insular FanLax Community is no way shape or form representative of society as a whole. That gets forgotten every day and really in most every post!

JoeMauer89!

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

"Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time" You make this statement like this is a fact. Whatever you want to believe, its ENTIRELY up to the general public. There are FAR more who are beyond frustrated with the restrictions and with each passing month the sentiment begins to change. There's a whole world out there of people under 60 who are ready to resume normalcy. I use that number because overwhelmingly the largest portion of hesitancy comes from that group 60+. I am youngin myself and am around many younger people. People in their 30's 40's 50's have grown beyond TIRED of the restrictions, especially in NY. It doesn't mean they are acting like complete fools, they no longer are accepting the fact that the virus has to rule every aspect of life. You only get one perspective on this site, because for the most part all of those who have similar opinions (about 9-10, you know who you are) are 60+. They simply fail to see the perspective from any other angle, and it's clearly evident every day in reading this thread. Realize, that is insular FanLax Community is no way shape or form representative of society as a whole. That gets forgotten every day and really in most every post!

JoeMauer89!

It is a fact. A vaccine and therapeutics will help. We are revamping our business model as are many other companies. We ain’t going back to the way it was. Hopefully we will be better prepared the next time one comes down the pike.

My 23 year old son is home and my 21 year old daughter is back at
school and we have a ton of young people at our company and I live in one “college” town and work in another.... when the virus runs its course or we get a vaccine or good therapeutic, life will get closer to normal but we learned some things.

EDIT: just got a text. Friend’s mom has COVID. Hopefully she will be fine.

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

"Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time" You make this statement like this is a fact. Whatever you want to believe, its ENTIRELY up to the general public. There are FAR more who are beyond frustrated with the restrictions and with each passing month the sentiment begins to change. There's a whole world out there of people under 60 who are ready to resume normalcy. I use that number because overwhelmingly the largest portion of hesitancy comes from that group 60+. I am youngin myself and am around many younger people. People in their 30's 40's 50's have grown beyond TIRED of the restrictions, especially in NY. It doesn't mean they are acting like complete fools, they no longer are accepting the fact that the virus has to rule every aspect of life. You only get one perspective on this site, because for the most part all of those who have similar opinions (about 9-10, you know who you are) are 60+. They simply fail to see the perspective from any other angle, and it's clearly evident every day in reading this thread. Realize, that is insular FanLax Community is no way shape or form representative of society as a whole. That gets forgotten every day and really in most every post!

JoeMauer89!

Disagree, it's a fact to YOU, but many others feel differently. You will not convince me otherwise. Just because someone is younger and less at risk doesn't mean there life is any LESS important than somebody who is at risk. That's where as a society, so many have gone about this the wrong. Life is about managing risk, NOT eliminating it. Therefore CV-19 is no different, it doesn't just magically upend the laws of human nature because we as a society obsess over it. We won't eliminate CV-19, won't even come close. Life will however continue to go on, and I would bet good money that it will be a lot like pre CV-19. Your giving the media and governors too much credit, they are the ones are benefitting the most from this virus, with added power and control. Your blind if you cannot see that. I am talking about the governors, not you know who. Governor Cuomo is the biggest piece of s**t there is and he's doing everything he can to make life in NY miserable, he's just "following the science" Am I supposed to think everything he is doing is justified because he is "following the science" He's a moron, and people in NY are starting to grow quite tired of it.

JoeMauer89!

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:51 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

"Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time" You make this statement like this is a fact. Whatever you want to believe, its ENTIRELY up to the general public. There are FAR more who are beyond frustrated with the restrictions and with each passing month the sentiment begins to change. There's a whole world out there of people under 60 who are ready to resume normalcy. I use that number because overwhelmingly the largest portion of hesitancy comes from that group 60+. I am youngin myself and am around many younger people. People in their 30's 40's 50's have grown beyond TIRED of the restrictions, especially in NY. It doesn't mean they are acting like complete fools, they no longer are accepting the fact that the virus has to rule every aspect of life. You only get one perspective on this site, because for the most part all of those who have similar opinions (about 9-10, you know who you are) are 60+. They simply fail to see the perspective from any other angle, and it's clearly evident every day in reading this thread. Realize, that is insular FanLax Community is no way shape or form representative of society as a whole. That gets forgotten every day and really in most every post!

JoeMauer89!

Disagree, it's a fact to YOU, but many others feel differently. You will not convince me otherwise. Just because someone is younger and less at risk doesn't mean there life is any LESS important than somebody who is at risk. That's where as a society, so many have gone about this the wrong. Life is about managing risk, NOT eliminating it. Therefore CV-19 is no different, it doesn't just magically upend the laws of human nature because we as a society obsess over it. We won't eliminate CV-19, won't even come close. Life will however continue to go on, and I would bet good money that it will be a lot like pre CV-19. Your giving the media and governors too much credit, they are the ones are benefitting the most from this virus, with added power and control. Your blind if you cannot see that. I am talking about the governors, not you know who. Governor Cuomo is the biggest piece of s**t there is and he's doing everything he can to make life in NY miserable, he's just "following the science" Am I supposed to think everything he is doing is justified because he is "following the science" He's a moron, and people in NY are starting to grow quite tired of it.

JoeMauer89!

I can’t convince you to feel otherwise. I said it will take some time. Not sure how you confuse that with never. Once we reduce the risk of hospitals being overwhelmed, the sooner we get back to something closer to pre-Covid. Work wise....things are changing.

BTW: do you remember life prior to September 11, 2000?

Feb 26: @realDonaldTrump

Lied when he said we had 15 cases and we're "going to be down close to zero soon"

October 12: We have 7.99 million+ cases and 219,700+ deaths

This deception, denial, delay, and incompetence have had a deadly cost.


https://twitter.com/TheDemCoalition/sta ... 6734405632

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:51 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

"Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time" You make this statement like this is a fact. Whatever you want to believe, its ENTIRELY up to the general public. There are FAR more who are beyond frustrated with the restrictions and with each passing month the sentiment begins to change. There's a whole world out there of people under 60 who are ready to resume normalcy. I use that number because overwhelmingly the largest portion of hesitancy comes from that group 60+. I am youngin myself and am around many younger people. People in their 30's 40's 50's have grown beyond TIRED of the restrictions, especially in NY. It doesn't mean they are acting like complete fools, they no longer are accepting the fact that the virus has to rule every aspect of life. You only get one perspective on this site, because for the most part all of those who have similar opinions (about 9-10, you know who you are) are 60+. They simply fail to see the perspective from any other angle, and it's clearly evident every day in reading this thread. Realize, that is insular FanLax Community is no way shape or form representative of society as a whole. That gets forgotten every day and really in most every post!

JoeMauer89!

Disagree, it's a fact to YOU, but many others feel differently. You will not convince me otherwise. Just because someone is younger and less at risk doesn't mean there life is any LESS important than somebody who is at risk. That's where as a society, so many have gone about this the wrong. Life is about managing risk, NOT eliminating it. Therefore CV-19 is no different, it doesn't just magically upend the laws of human nature because we as a society obsess over it. We won't eliminate CV-19, won't even come close. Life will however continue to go on, and I would bet good money that it will be a lot like pre CV-19. Your giving the media and governors too much credit, they are the ones are benefitting the most from this virus, with added power and control. Your blind if you cannot see that. I am talking about the governors, not you know who. Governor Cuomo is the biggest piece of s**t there is and he's doing everything he can to make life in NY miserable, he's just "following the science" Am I supposed to think everything he is doing is justified because he is "following the science" He's a moron, and people in NY are starting to grow quite tired of it.

JoeMauer89!

Joe...your perception about the NYS Gov is certainly what you feel. I know people who feel the exact opposite. Not 60+ but late 40's or 50's in the prime of their earning. Good paying jobs ect...ect. I think the difference may be that they know people directly who have dealt with the virus. It certainly changed their mind. As always, perception certainly is reality and there is no real good answer to any of this.

Couple of interesting reviews from Nature Reviews Immunology.

This one looks at the state of vaccine generation: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00434-6

This one looks at T Cell cross reactivity to COVID-19 and herd immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00460-4

A whole bunch to digest but there is alot of really interesting nerdy stuff in there.

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:51 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

"Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time" You make this statement like this is a fact. Whatever you want to believe, its ENTIRELY up to the general public. There are FAR more who are beyond frustrated with the restrictions and with each passing month the sentiment begins to change. There's a whole world out there of people under 60 who are ready to resume normalcy. I use that number because overwhelmingly the largest portion of hesitancy comes from that group 60+. I am youngin myself and am around many younger people. People in their 30's 40's 50's have grown beyond TIRED of the restrictions, especially in NY. It doesn't mean they are acting like complete fools, they no longer are accepting the fact that the virus has to rule every aspect of life. You only get one perspective on this site, because for the most part all of those who have similar opinions (about 9-10, you know who you are) are 60+. They simply fail to see the perspective from any other angle, and it's clearly evident every day in reading this thread. Realize, that is insular FanLax Community is no way shape or form representative of society as a whole. That gets forgotten every day and really in most every post!

JoeMauer89!

Disagree, it's a fact to YOU, but many others feel differently. You will not convince me otherwise. Just because someone is younger and less at risk doesn't mean there life is any LESS important than somebody who is at risk. That's where as a society, so many have gone about this the wrong. Life is about managing risk, NOT eliminating it. Therefore CV-19 is no different, it doesn't just magically upend the laws of human nature because we as a society obsess over it. We won't eliminate CV-19, won't even come close. Life will however continue to go on, and I would bet good money that it will be a lot like pre CV-19. Your giving the media and governors too much credit, they are the ones are benefitting the most from this virus, with added power and control. Your blind if you cannot see that. I am talking about the governors, not you know who. Governor Cuomo is the biggest piece of s**t there is and he's doing everything he can to make life in NY miserable, he's just "following the science" Am I supposed to think everything he is doing is justified because he is "following the science" He's a moron, and people in NY are starting to grow quite tired of it.

JoeMauer89!

+1 King Andy is a huge pile of dung. His OCD is directly more dangerous to myself and NYS than anything the trump people will ever do. King Andy just wants to save us from ourselves. King Andy has become the tyrant he always wanted to be. Nobody in his kingdom can do anything unless he approves. His leadership is the epitome of absolute power corrupting absolutely. I sure miss King Andy's daily long winded self serving Covid updates he did every freaking day...

https://nypost.com/2020/08/21/audit-fin ... tax-money/

Some fun reading for those of you out there that love the bad king. This is the guy who would LOVE to be your president.

Bart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:31 am Couple of interesting reviews from Nature Reviews Immunology.

This one looks at the state of vaccine generation: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00434-6

This one looks at T Cell cross reactivity to COVID-19 and herd immunity: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00460-4

A whole bunch to digest but there is alot of really interesting nerdy stuff in there.

Thanks for posting these, Bart; the state of vaccine development article is -- if way, way, way over my head -- very interesting.

Why does Florida continue to "lead" the nation in deaths per day?
They've been in the top 4 for several months, but more recently #1 consistently.

Bart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:19 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:51 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

"Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time" You make this statement like this is a fact. Whatever you want to believe, its ENTIRELY up to the general public. There are FAR more who are beyond frustrated with the restrictions and with each passing month the sentiment begins to change. There's a whole world out there of people under 60 who are ready to resume normalcy. I use that number because overwhelmingly the largest portion of hesitancy comes from that group 60+. I am youngin myself and am around many younger people. People in their 30's 40's 50's have grown beyond TIRED of the restrictions, especially in NY. It doesn't mean they are acting like complete fools, they no longer are accepting the fact that the virus has to rule every aspect of life. You only get one perspective on this site, because for the most part all of those who have similar opinions (about 9-10, you know who you are) are 60+. They simply fail to see the perspective from any other angle, and it's clearly evident every day in reading this thread. Realize, that is insular FanLax Community is no way shape or form representative of society as a whole. That gets forgotten every day and really in most every post!

JoeMauer89!

Disagree, it's a fact to YOU, but many others feel differently. You will not convince me otherwise. Just because someone is younger and less at risk doesn't mean there life is any LESS important than somebody who is at risk. That's where as a society, so many have gone about this the wrong. Life is about managing risk, NOT eliminating it. Therefore CV-19 is no different, it doesn't just magically upend the laws of human nature because we as a society obsess over it. We won't eliminate CV-19, won't even come close. Life will however continue to go on, and I would bet good money that it will be a lot like pre CV-19. Your giving the media and governors too much credit, they are the ones are benefitting the most from this virus, with added power and control. Your blind if you cannot see that. I am talking about the governors, not you know who. Governor Cuomo is the biggest piece of s**t there is and he's doing everything he can to make life in NY miserable, he's just "following the science" Am I supposed to think everything he is doing is justified because he is "following the science" He's a moron, and people in NY are starting to grow quite tired of it.

JoeMauer89!

Joe...your perception about the NYS Gov is certainly what you feel. I know people who feel the exact opposite. Not 60+ but late 40's or 50's in the prime of their earning. Good paying jobs ect...ect. I think the difference may be that they know people directly who have dealt with the virus. It certainly changed their mind. As always, perception certainly is reality and there is no real good answer to any of this.

Bart,

Good point, just trying to bring to light a viewpoint that is not shared much on this site. I've have had it touch me on a personal level, know a few that have had it. Still think the restrictions are far too overreaching in NY, but I guess I'm in the minority here, which is fine. Just bringing a different perspective to the forum. My main beef is this media-inspired notion, that if you don't fear the virus, you don't take it seriously enough. That's the biggest crock of you know what. It's not nearly as black or white, and I feel we are personally moving closer and closer to a middle ground.

JoeMauer89!

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:24 am

Bart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:19 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:51 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:37 pm WHO dr. walking back lockdowns a bit. Is this a call to “get back to work.....safely”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.c ... 7731c3da74

As Fauci even stated, let’s get the curve flattened, which was done months ago, and the lockdown was indeed to buy us time for PPE and safety for health care workers.

I believe folks have been getting back to work safely for some time. Have you not seen it?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock ... yURL_share

Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time. Some industries will be disproportionately impacted. A byproduct of health concerns. Airlines, hotels, vacations, bars & restaurants....rich people’s problems really.

"Going back to life pre Covid is not likely for some time" You make this statement like this is a fact. Whatever you want to believe, its ENTIRELY up to the general public. There are FAR more who are beyond frustrated with the restrictions and with each passing month the sentiment begins to change. There's a whole world out there of people under 60 who are ready to resume normalcy. I use that number because overwhelmingly the largest portion of hesitancy comes from that group 60+. I am youngin myself and am around many younger people. People in their 30's 40's 50's have grown beyond TIRED of the restrictions, especially in NY. It doesn't mean they are acting like complete fools, they no longer are accepting the fact that the virus has to rule every aspect of life. You only get one perspective on this site, because for the most part all of those who have similar opinions (about 9-10, you know who you are) are 60+. They simply fail to see the perspective from any other angle, and it's clearly evident every day in reading this thread. Realize, that is insular FanLax Community is no way shape or form representative of society as a whole. That gets forgotten every day and really in most every post!

JoeMauer89!

Disagree, it's a fact to YOU, but many others feel differently. You will not convince me otherwise. Just because someone is younger and less at risk doesn't mean there life is any LESS important than somebody who is at risk. That's where as a society, so many have gone about this the wrong. Life is about managing risk, NOT eliminating it. Therefore CV-19 is no different, it doesn't just magically upend the laws of human nature because we as a society obsess over it. We won't eliminate CV-19, won't even come close. Life will however continue to go on, and I would bet good money that it will be a lot like pre CV-19. Your giving the media and governors too much credit, they are the ones are benefitting the most from this virus, with added power and control. Your blind if you cannot see that. I am talking about the governors, not you know who. Governor Cuomo is the biggest piece of s**t there is and he's doing everything he can to make life in NY miserable, he's just "following the science" Am I supposed to think everything he is doing is justified because he is "following the science" He's a moron, and people in NY are starting to grow quite tired of it.

JoeMauer89!

Joe...your perception about the NYS Gov is certainly what you feel. I know people who feel the exact opposite. Not 60+ but late 40's or 50's in the prime of their earning. Good paying jobs ect...ect. I think the difference may be that they know people directly who have dealt with the virus. It certainly changed their mind. As always, perception certainly is reality and there is no real good answer to any of this.

Bart,

Good point, just trying to bring to light a viewpoint that is not shared much on this site. I've have had it touch me on a personal level, know a few that have had it. Still think the restrictions are far too overreaching in NY, but I guess I'm in the minority here, which is fine. Just bringing a different perspective to the forum. My main beef is this media-inspired notion, that if you don't fear the virus, you don't take it seriously enough. That's the biggest crock of you know what. It's not nearly as black or white, and I feel we are personally moving closer and closer to a middle ground.

JoeMauer89!

Joe, your frustrations are certainly understandable. They are shared by many.

But you misrepresent the issue, the key messaging about the virus, whether from the media or from the doctors and nurses or the scientists.

This isn't about "fear" of the virus. But we do need to respect its lethality and the dynamics of its spread, so that we can defeat it.

We need to actually realize that each week it is killing, prematurely, more Americans than died on 9-11, more Americans to date than have died in multiple wars.

And this needn't be the case. It could be much better.

Unfortunately, there are far too many who continue to take actions that endanger others, actions they could easily avoid. We should not need mandates and penalties to enforce behaviors that protect others, but apparently, and tragically, a political position has been staked out by a large slice of the media and politicians that actually encourage such behaviors that endanger others.

If we simply all committed together to safe behaviors, to wearing masks, to distancing when possible, to avoiding dense crowds without masks, to avoiding dense situations inside, we could do far, far better while continuing work and most play.

We need leadership that brings all Americans to this choice.

Meanwhile, the scientists will keep working on reducing the lethality of the virus, improving the recovery process, to preventing further spread. This takes time.

We should not expect miracle cures to rescue us tomorrow...the responsibility is our own.
Wear a darn mask.

The latest example of stupidity in politicians

Sen. Ted Cruz is appearing virtually at today's Judiciary Committee hearing. He has tested negative for COVID but has been self-quarantining after coming into contact with Sen. Mike Lee...who tested positive and delivered his in-person maskless opening statement in the hearing room. This in addition, to his gloating, fawning and hugging at the super-spreader WH event where he likely contracted the virus in the first place.

Serially moronic - no concern or empathy for others (friend or foe). He is in a room with several octogenarian fellow Senators of his own party as well as the opposing party. No surprise he is a DOPUS supporter.

No wonder this country in in trouble.