wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:45 pm
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:45 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:58 pm
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:52 pm
You seem to know all the right details of the Barrow case. You tell us.
huh. sure can't say i'm surprised. but seems par for the course around here. happy holidays?
You dredged all this up.
nah. most people can read. you can, too. if something's gonna get posted on here, repeatedly -- as i'm sure you're fully behind, i'll go ahead and address it if i feel like it. i did. there was no lawsuit for 3 1/2 full lacrosse seasons. and then at least another season was offered. so folks can decide for themselves whether he was allowed to be kept on for 4 1/2 + seasons after a less-than-one-year-before-dropped lawsuit was around because... lawsuit. how long is four years in hopkins' years? the final four, right?
you then decided it was your prerogative to tell me what to do beyond that. "playing ostrich", "hoping the stench will go away", "own it", "NOT bury the story", "butthurt". creative stuff. then passive aggressive, with a follow on that my reply re: you was inaccurate. and then a refusal to detail what was inaccurate. of course in that reply, i think most folks that can put 2 and 2 together can see (again) where you stand and that in fact -- what i said was very accurate. how do you say -- own it? or is that for other people?So, tell us the full story.
Afraid to do it?
Please give us the full Dom UVa Apology Tour.
So, no lawsuit equals zero threat of a lawsuit during that entire time?
Riiiggghht.
I’ve seen cases where someone gets punished and an aggrieved party uses that as a huge part of the basis for a lawsuit.
And that seemed to me to be what was going on at the time. And what OC said earlier today.
I don’t see how a coach can be asked to resign and he refuses and then the AD does nothing. Want to explain that? Where’s the leverage in that situation? How does anyone pull that off? Could still be bought out. But wasn’t.
You brought up Barrow. Let me ask you a few questions since you are the expert:
1) How involved were the men’s players with the women’s team, prior to Huguely?
2) What were the circumstances of Barrow’s suicide?
3) Where was his suicide located?
4) Could his suicide have turned into a murder-suicide if someone had been in their own place of residence that day?
5) What did Barrow do to that residence, prior to his suicide?
6) Do you feel any women’s team players should have been very alarmed by that incident?
7) Do you feel any parents of any women’s players should have been alarmed by that incident?
8) What did the UVa Athletics Dept do in response to the Barrow suicide?
9) What did the women’s coaching staff do in response?
10) What did the men’s coaching staff do in response?
11) What did the women’s team members do in response?
12) What did the men’s team members do in response?
I’ll admit I don’t have answers to all of the above, but good reporting would answer them.
And all of the above happened BEFORE Huguely.
Why not help state the truth instead of trying to make it go away?
My point, and has been all along, opportunities to perhaps have prevented some of what happened during that extended time period were tragically missed.
So, you want truth? You want to help shed light on the truth? Or do you want posts deleted and no lessons learned?
You can go look in a mirror and think about who you are and what your behavior here today represents.
I’m personally very unsure that all lessons have been learned and/or will soon be forgotten. And that will be the true tragedy of both Barrow and Love.
If you see something, say something. Get people help.
Happy holidays,
W
And, that’s what I mean by true lacrosse journalism. Dig deep folks. Don’t let more tragedies happen. Ask questions. Demand answers.
But by all means, go have OC and my posts deleted or altered. You will perpetuate the pitfalls of LP.