All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
44
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
More.
7
10%
 
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kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:29 am I was thinking the same thing. I woke up this morning and was thinking immediately- the lack of contract tracing is simply appalling.

Do you people hear yourselves?

:lol:
Well, we certainly disagree.

This is public health 101 and the White House is refusing to do it or to allow the CDC to do it.

But no, I didn't 'wake up' and think this. It's simply obvious and the context of saying so is in a discussion of what the POTUS and his minions are trying to hide, whether that's his own medical progression or when he was infected and who else should be getting tested and quarantined until cleared.

But hey, if you wanna think they aren't hiding and lying, cool.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:18 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:29 am I was thinking the same thing. I woke up this morning and was thinking immediately- the lack of contract tracing is simply appalling.

Do you people hear yourselves?

:lol:


TDS is so off the charts as to be mind-bending. I often tune in to hear MSNBC and CNN just to get laughs now. And forget doctors, they all now opine on medicine as if they are practicing MD's.

This morning at the same time, MSNBC has on John Brennan, a guy who once voted Communist in an AMERICAN election who disturbingly eventually ran the CIA (I'd love to know who approved that...) and then on CNN they had Bob Woodward. These two are in essence 'sworn enemies' of Trump, incapable of even a shred of nuance. Yet they get all the airplay they want.

The analysis of Trump's Covid is beyond comical. And of course Fanlax Dems are right there with it.
The left's Trumpwatch 2020 continues.

Fredo Cuomo's head was exploding all last night.

Never seen an obsession like it. It's 10M hall monitors looking to whine about something. "Ms. Smith? You forgot to assign homework!"
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kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:30 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:18 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:29 am I was thinking the same thing. I woke up this morning and was thinking immediately- the lack of contract tracing is simply appalling.

Do you people hear yourselves?

:lol:
TDS is so off the charts as to be mind-bending. I often tune in to hear MSNBC and CNN just to get laughs now. And forget doctors, they all now opine on medicine as if they are practicing MD's.

This morning at the same time, MSNBC has on John Brennan, a guy who once voted Communist in an AMERICAN election who disturbingly eventually ran the CIA (I'd love to know who approved that...) and then on CNN they had Bob Woodward. These two are in essence 'sworn enemies' of Trump, incapable of even a shred of nuance. Yet they get all the airplay they want.

The analysis of Trump's Covid is beyond comical. And of course Fanlax Dems are right there with it.
The left's Trumpwatch 2020 continues.

Fredo Cuomo's head was exploding all last night.

Never seen an obsession like it. It's 10M hall monitors looking to whine about something. "Ms. Smith? You forgot to assign homework!"



I said to someone yesterday if you can't think of a reason to vote 'for' Trump, just take into account the people who hate him... They're enough reason to vote for the guy.
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Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life.
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Kismet wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:48 am Courtesy of historian Michael Beschloss on Twitter

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Patient Nero

Why does it seem like we are all in North Korea with a fat toad leading the charge. New national poll this morning CNN/SSRS of likely voters conducted entirely after the debate and mostly after the President's Covid-19 infection was made public.
Biden: 57
Trump: 41
MOE: -3.6%
Biden is beating Trump by 60-39 among seniors.

Stevie Nicks says LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!

... thanks, Stevie Nicks made my morning!
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kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:30 amThe left's Trumpwatch 2020 continues.

Fredo Cuomo's head was exploding all last night.

Never seen an obsession like it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, yes you have! FFS man. Tan suit ring a bell? Michelle Obama's exposed arms? Golfing too much?

You are SO much further down the partisan rabbit hole than you realize.

The left-----the people you despise----learned how to do this from your team----FoxNation.

Everything Obama did was wrong, remember? All of it. Then Trump gets in, and what does your team do?

Suddenly massive spending is cool. And massive deficits. And handouts to citizens for doing nothing. And, oh, about two dozen other things that you hated when Obama did it....but now that Trump's little R has arrived? You don't care.

Physician, heal thyself.

And if Biden manages to pull off a miracle and win? I'll be back here, telling you EXACTLY how your team will behave once again. So spending will be bad again. And handouts. And the same socialism Trump handed out like candy.

The left is nothing more than the mirror image of you and your team. Be self aware enough to recognize that you're EXACTLY like them.
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a fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:27 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:30 amThe left's Trumpwatch 2020 continues.

Fredo Cuomo's head was exploding all last night.

Never seen an obsession like it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, yes you have! FFS man. Tan suit ring a bell? Michelle Obama's exposed arms? Golfing too much?

You are SO much further down the partisan rabbit hole than you realize.

The left-----the people you despise----learned how to do this from your team----FoxNation.

Everything Obama did was wrong, remember? All of it. Then Trump gets in, and what does your team do?

Suddenly massive spending is cool. And massive deficits. And handouts to citizens for doing nothing. And, oh, about two dozen other things that you hated when Obama did it....but now that Trump's little R has arrived? You don't care.

Physician, heal thyself.

And if Biden manages to pull off a miracle and win? I'll be back here, telling you EXACTLY how your team will behave once again. So spending will be bad again. And handouts. And the same socialism Trump handed out like candy.

The left is nothing more than the mirror image of you and your team. Be self aware enough to recognize that you're EXACTLY like them.
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Bart wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:45 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:26 am TV docs back bite more than teenage mean girls.
The vast majority of COVID experienced docs are asking many of the same questions, not calling the Walter Reed docs liars, but legitimately not understanding why the strange timelines and compression of timeline in deploying the drugs they have. The docs asking the questions are just as good, some better, than the guys treating Trump. Its natural. The White House physician has no COVID experience until his current patient. Don't know how much experience the other Walter Reed (military) docs have. Clearly they brought Garibaldi in for his experience and not for nothing the name of the Institution he represents. I really don't know how much COVID experience he has, but wood think it is more than the others on the team. I am not sure he would be consider as among the most experienced in the nation. Fauci seems to think they are doing ok. It is what it is.
You can question. I have no problem with that. But should you question on national TV? About what may or may not be the case in a situation that you do not have 100% of the facts? Good Doctors probably but perhaps just a bit overwhelmed and enamored with the prospect of being on TV?

You can see this in the researchers as well. I like to think about it like, its my 5 seconds to have fame, commenting on things that they may or may not have the expertise to do so.

Point very well taken!
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It's odd. The same people who declare that wearing a mask is a "personal choice," are the SAME people who want to take away a woman's right to choose.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:53 am
Bart wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:45 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:26 am TV docs back bite more than teenage mean girls.
The vast majority of COVID experienced docs are asking many of the same questions, not calling the Walter Reed docs liars, but legitimately not understanding why the strange timelines and compression of timeline in deploying the drugs they have. The docs asking the questions are just as good, some better, than the guys treating Trump. Its natural. The White House physician has no COVID experience until his current patient. Don't know how much experience the other Walter Reed (military) docs have. Clearly they brought Garibaldi in for his experience and not for nothing the name of the Institution he represents. I really don't know how much COVID experience he has, but wood think it is more than the others on the team. I am not sure he would be consider as among the most experienced in the nation. Fauci seems to think they are doing ok. It is what it is.
You can question. I have no problem with that. But should you question on national TV? About what may or may not be the case in a situation that you do not have 100% of the facts? Good Doctors probably but perhaps just a bit overwhelmed and enamored with the prospect of being on TV?

You can see this in the researchers as well. I like to think about it like, its my 5 seconds to have fame, commenting on things that they may or may not have the expertise to do so.
Bart, would you not agree that osteopath Commander Conly has been, at a minimum, a communications disaster? He is so obviously not telling the truth, withholding key information again and again, that questions from other doctors are inevitable, right?

Now, much of that misinformation may be at the direction of the patient, Commander in Chief, but his waving his hands, misspeaking, declining to answer key questions only to have to admit the truth later, makes it impossible to trust all the happy talk.

And brutally, this refusal to tell us when Trump last tested negative, "I don't want to look backwards"...

So, yes, doctors should be questioning on national TV.

some of the non-medical commentary has been hyperbolic at times, but the doctors IMO are by and large telling us the truth...that what the American public is being told by Conly is full of gaping holes and contradictions.

And the lack of contact tracing is appalling...but not surprising at this point, right?
... there is no doubt about this, the docs doing the press briefings are a communication disaster. I am especially impressed with their selective invocation of HIPAA and the fact that it doesn't apply. It doesn't take much sophistication to see through them. They have a difficult job. I don't really blame them, they have a tough job given the patient they are dealing with. They, like the Secret Service Agents, didn't really sign up for this.
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a fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:27 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:30 amThe left's Trumpwatch 2020 continues.

Fredo Cuomo's head was exploding all last night.

Never seen an obsession like it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, yes you have! FFS man. Tan suit ring a bell? Michelle Obama's exposed arms? Golfing too much?

You are SO much further down the partisan rabbit hole than you realize.

The left-----the people you despise----learned how to do this from your team----FoxNation.

Everything Obama did was wrong, remember? All of it. Then Trump gets in, and what does your team do?

Suddenly massive spending is cool. And massive deficits. And handouts to citizens for doing nothing. And, oh, about two dozen other things that you hated when Obama did it....but now that Trump's little R has arrived? You don't care.

Physician, heal thyself.

And if Biden manages to pull off a miracle and win? I'll be back here, telling you EXACTLY how your team will behave once again. So spending will be bad again. And handouts. And the same socialism Trump handed out like candy.

The left is nothing more than the mirror image of you and your team. Be self aware enough to recognize that you're EXACTLY like them.
It would be incredibly easy to say that. If Trump and Fox News were my "team."

But I wear neither's jersey or celebrate what they spew.
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German doctor's opinion

https://youtu.be/35Y31KOmmWg
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CU88 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:42 am It's odd. The same people who declare that wearing a mask is a "personal choice," are the SAME people who want to take away a woman's right to choose.
AND the same people who don't care about the 600,000+++ lives taken each year by actual human choices and actions, and legislate it, are concerned and assigning blame for a naturally occurring virus that has taken 1/3 that number.

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They are so scared and concerned about the virus that they are wiling to shut down the economy and infringe upon civil liberties to do it.

But legal abortions for all!!!

Peep these stats:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_ ... ted_States
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kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:07 am
CU88 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:42 am It's odd. The same people who declare that wearing a mask is a "personal choice," are the SAME people who want to take away a woman's right to choose.
AND the same people who don't care about the lives of 600,000+++ lives taken each year by actual human actions, and actually legislate it, are concerned and assigning blame for a naturally occurring virus that has taken 1/3 that number.

They are so scared and concerned about those people that they are wiling to shut down the economy and infringe upon civil liberties to do it.

But legal abortions for all!!!

Peep these stats:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_ ... ted_States


How revealing that Democrats never once take into account a fetus when discussing abortion. They have neutered the child to no more than a clump of cells.

That is what occurs when you are a leftist, btw, which I have tried to point out endlessly here. You lose your humanity entirely. It's the same mentality which advocates burning down stores or shooting a policeman in the head.
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jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:59 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:53 am
Bart wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:45 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:26 am TV docs back bite more than teenage mean girls.
The vast majority of COVID experienced docs are asking many of the same questions, not calling the Walter Reed docs liars, but legitimately not understanding why the strange timelines and compression of timeline in deploying the drugs they have. The docs asking the questions are just as good, some better, than the guys treating Trump. Its natural. The White House physician has no COVID experience until his current patient. Don't know how much experience the other Walter Reed (military) docs have. Clearly they brought Garibaldi in for his experience and not for nothing the name of the Institution he represents. I really don't know how much COVID experience he has, but wood think it is more than the others on the team. I am not sure he would be consider as among the most experienced in the nation. Fauci seems to think they are doing ok. It is what it is.
You can question. I have no problem with that. But should you question on national TV? About what may or may not be the case in a situation that you do not have 100% of the facts? Good Doctors probably but perhaps just a bit overwhelmed and enamored with the prospect of being on TV?

You can see this in the researchers as well. I like to think about it like, its my 5 seconds to have fame, commenting on things that they may or may not have the expertise to do so.
Bart, would you not agree that osteopath Commander Conly has been, at a minimum, a communications disaster? He is so obviously not telling the truth, withholding key information again and again, that questions from other doctors are inevitable, right?

Now, much of that misinformation may be at the direction of the patient, Commander in Chief, but his waving his hands, misspeaking, declining to answer key questions only to have to admit the truth later, makes it impossible to trust all the happy talk.

And brutally, this refusal to tell us when Trump last tested negative, "I don't want to look backwards"...

So, yes, doctors should be questioning on national TV.

some of the non-medical commentary has been hyperbolic at times, but the doctors IMO are by and large telling us the truth...that what the American public is being told by Conly is full of gaping holes and contradictions.

And the lack of contact tracing is appalling...but not surprising at this point, right?
... there is no doubt about this, the docs doing the press briefings are a communication disaster. I am especially impressed with their selective invocation of HIPAA and the fact that it doesn't apply. It doesn't take much sophistication to see through them. They have a difficult job. I don't really blame them, they have a tough job given the patient they are dealing with. They, like the Secret Service Agents, didn't really sign up for this.
Note: HIPAA does not apply to the President. HIPAA (not HIPPA). HIPAA protects a patients right to control his private healthcare information. Doctors in this case selectively releasing that information is nothing more than a doctor honoring a patient's wish in a situation where the law does not apply.
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So the laws don't apply to the president?
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kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:01 am It would be incredibly easy to say that. If Trump and Fox News were my "team."

But I wear neither's jersey or celebrate what they spew.
Well then for heaven's sake------don't come here and say that you've never seen anything like this before!

I can only go by what I read from you here. And if you tell me you've never seen a President treated like this, that tells me that either you were checked out for Obama's eight years.....or you're a partisan R, and didn't notice what they did to Obama.

So my apologies for painting the wrong picture!
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kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:37 am So the laws don't apply to the president?
It appears this is bad information. Some in the press have it wrong. I went to the source, they say yes he is covered. Nonetheless the docs are selectively invoking it.
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jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:59 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:53 am
Bart wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:45 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:26 am TV docs back bite more than teenage mean girls.
The vast majority of COVID experienced docs are asking many of the same questions, not calling the Walter Reed docs liars, but legitimately not understanding why the strange timelines and compression of timeline in deploying the drugs they have. The docs asking the questions are just as good, some better, than the guys treating Trump. Its natural. The White House physician has no COVID experience until his current patient. Don't know how much experience the other Walter Reed (military) docs have. Clearly they brought Garibaldi in for his experience and not for nothing the name of the Institution he represents. I really don't know how much COVID experience he has, but wood think it is more than the others on the team. I am not sure he would be consider as among the most experienced in the nation. Fauci seems to think they are doing ok. It is what it is.
You can question. I have no problem with that. But should you question on national TV? About what may or may not be the case in a situation that you do not have 100% of the facts? Good Doctors probably but perhaps just a bit overwhelmed and enamored with the prospect of being on TV?

You can see this in the researchers as well. I like to think about it like, its my 5 seconds to have fame, commenting on things that they may or may not have the expertise to do so.
Bart, would you not agree that osteopath Commander Conly has been, at a minimum, a communications disaster? He is so obviously not telling the truth, withholding key information again and again, that questions from other doctors are inevitable, right?

Now, much of that misinformation may be at the direction of the patient, Commander in Chief, but his waving his hands, misspeaking, declining to answer key questions only to have to admit the truth later, makes it impossible to trust all the happy talk.

And brutally, this refusal to tell us when Trump last tested negative, "I don't want to look backwards"...

So, yes, doctors should be questioning on national TV.

some of the non-medical commentary has been hyperbolic at times, but the doctors IMO are by and large telling us the truth...that what the American public is being told by Conly is full of gaping holes and contradictions.

And the lack of contact tracing is appalling...but not surprising at this point, right?
... there is no doubt about this, the docs doing the press briefings are a communication disaster. I am especially impressed with their selective invocation of HIPAA and the fact that it doesn't apply. It doesn't take much sophistication to see through them. They have a difficult job. I don't really blame them, they have a tough job given the patient they are dealing with. They, like the Secret Service Agents, didn't really sign up for this.
I agree with you except for Conly. He did agree to this and could say no more BS. Resign from that job.

But someone more familiar with his duties in the military may correct me and tell us that he, too, has no choice but to do and say as told by Trump, unless he resigns from the military altogether. But man, these guys should know before going out in front of the cameras what questions they're going to be asked and have a heck of a lot smoother response than the obvious avoidance. It's a communications disaster.

The other docs aren't being allowed to answer questions, just say the handful of words that have been pre-approved. They at least don't come across as not telling the truth.
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