LaxPower Back-Up Stick

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:10 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:04 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:01 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:24 pm Another Winner

Seems like upstate New Yorkers have been particularly enthusiastic!

It must have been the time he spent in Colorado where he was radicalized.

Or when he moved! Just thought it was funny..... Multiple Ohioans arrested also.

I have asked myself this question... what were they trying to prove?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:10 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:04 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:01 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:24 pm Another Winner

Seems like upstate New Yorkers have been particularly enthusiastic!

It must have been the time he spent in Colorado where he was radicalized.

Or when he moved! Just thought it was funny..... Multiple Ohioans arrested also.

I have asked myself this question... what were they trying to prove?

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:26 am We're pretty much in agreement, then, I'm just not as defensive on behalf of the vast majority of military veterans who have their heads screwed on straight, thank you very much, as you are. But I do agree. Wholeheartedly.

My own hypothesis is that the reason why more of the ex-military folks are showing up in the initial waves of arrests, proportionate to the overall population, Do we know this to be the case? Do we know there weren't more ex football players, mechanics, hunters, or butchers for examples? is that the FBI (I'm not talking about the media) is focused on the vanguard group breaching the Capitol, which has been described by a journalist on the spot as being organized, paramilitary style group(s) Paramilitary style groups who would likely be quickly assumed to be ex military when in fact that's not the case., coordinating and geared up in tactical gear. Any wannabe be military person who never wore the uniform of any branch can buy this stuff and go play Rambo. Mixed in with that vanguard were "eccentrics" who were more performative and thus recognizable. So, they, too are in the early arrests. My hypothesis is that the FBI is most concerned, however, with grabbing up those considered the highest risk for future actions, and evidence of organization and military training (whether US military or just militia in the backwoods) I'm bettin' more of them were "militia in the backwoods" types....a bunch of wannabe soldiers who were never willing to take on the challenge of being a real one. would be considered most risky. So, too, the networks of the most rapid white supremacist, white nationalists, and other anti-pluralistic, anti-government types...so, who is communicating with whom?

Now, this hypothesis does presuppose that the militias and such groups have a disproportionate share of ex-US military as well...I take your point to heart that it's nevertheless the fanatics, including those who may never had any sort of actual combat training or experience, just wannabes...but wannabe is dangerous too. This is where we will never agree, I do not presuppose, as you and a whole lot of others do, that ex military are more inclined to be a part of these militias any more so than all the rest of the nuts/fanatics in the population. We do know (from the FBI) that these various groups do target disaffected veterans for recruitment, so it's not really a surprise if this supposition would be accurate.

DMac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:21 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:26 am We're pretty much in agreement, then, I'm just not as defensive on behalf of the vast majority of military veterans who have their heads screwed on straight, thank you very much, as you are. But I do agree. Wholeheartedly.

My own hypothesis is that the reason why more of the ex-military folks are showing up in the initial waves of arrests, proportionate to the overall population, Do we know this to be the case? Do we know there weren't more ex football players, mechanics, hunters, or butchers for examples? is that the FBI (I'm not talking about the media) is focused on the vanguard group breaching the Capitol, which has been described by a journalist on the spot as being organized, paramilitary style group(s) Paramilitary style groups who would likely be quickly assumed to be ex military when in fact that's not the case., coordinating and geared up in tactical gear. Any wannabe be military person who never wore the uniform of any branch can buy this stuff and go play Rambo. Mixed in with that vanguard were "eccentrics" who were more performative and thus recognizable. So, they, too are in the early arrests. My hypothesis is that the FBI is most concerned, however, with grabbing up those considered the highest risk for future actions, and evidence of organization and military training (whether US military or just militia in the backwoods) I'm bettin' more of them were "militia in the backwoods" types....a bunch of wannabe soldiers who were never willing to take on the challenge of being a real one. would be considered most risky. So, too, the networks of the most rapid white supremacist, white nationalists, and other anti-pluralistic, anti-government types...so, who is communicating with whom?

Now, this hypothesis does presuppose that the militias and such groups have a disproportionate share of ex-US military as well...I take your point to heart that it's nevertheless the fanatics, including those who may never had any sort of actual combat training or experience, just wannabes...but wannabe is dangerous too. This is where we will never agree, I do not presuppose, as you and a whole lot of others do, that ex military are more inclined to be a part of these militias any more so than all the rest of the nuts/fanatics in the population. We do know (from the FBI) that these various groups do target disaffected veterans for recruitment, so it's not really a surprise if this supposition would be accurate.

Now I've got a favor to ask. SEALs, acronym, all caps ('cept for the plural part). I've pointed this out a number of times, please remember this as you've made that mistake several times and it annoys me every time. TIA.

DMac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:39 pm Yup, I know that. Bet you'll get it right next time.

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:19 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:10 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:04 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:01 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:24 pm Another Winner

Seems like upstate New Yorkers have been particularly enthusiastic!

It must have been the time he spent in Colorado where he was radicalized.

Or when he moved! Just thought it was funny..... Multiple Ohioans arrested also.

I have asked myself this question... what were they trying to prove?

Maybe just how stupid they really are?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:13 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:10 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:04 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:01 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:24 pm Another Winner

Seems like upstate New Yorkers have been particularly enthusiastic!

It must have been the time he spent in Colorado where he was radicalized.

Or when he moved! Just thought it was funny..... Multiple Ohioans arrested also.

I have asked myself this question... what were they trying to prove?

The were wronged and had the election stolen from them. Trump said so.

DMac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:39 pm Yup, I know that. Bet you'll get it right next time.

njbill wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:36 pm Biden says he doesn’t think there are 17 Republican votes to convict T****. This seems to reflect the current reality, but it’s a little surprising he would be so blunt about that assessment. Why not just say, “that’s up to the Senate”?

njbill wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:36 pm Biden says he doesn’t think there are 17 Republican votes to convict T****. This seems to reflect the current reality, but it’s a little surprising he would be so blunt about that assessment. Why not just say, “that’s up to the Senate”?

DMac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:18 pm Didn't mean it as harshly as it might sound, was just funnin' a little.
Would bet the next time you use it, it won't be as a sea creature, but
rather a human (warrior) though.

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:20 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:36 pm Biden says he doesn’t think there are 17 Republican votes to convict T****. This seems to reflect the current reality, but it’s a little surprising he would be so blunt about that assessment. Why not just say, “that’s up to the Senate”?

Perhaps he's signaling a lack of enthusiasm for this post election impeachment process.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:24 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:20 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:36 pm Biden says he doesn’t think there are 17 Republican votes to convict T****. This seems to reflect the current reality, but it’s a little surprising he would be so blunt about that assessment. Why not just say, “that’s up to the Senate”?

Perhaps he's signaling a lack of enthusiasm for this post election impeachment process.

Nope, he's lowering expectations for a conviction.

He's saying it will impact their legislative agenda, but that it must go forward...and the more that's been learned the more obvious that's the case. He's signaling hard that's the case.

He just wants the Senate to work both tracks, legislation and impeachment process.

He's also quite correct that the likelihood of conviction is low, given the reality of the fear the GOP Senators have of being primaried. It's a political reality, but he's also quite clear that it's necessary despite the impact on his legislative agenda...which is his own #1 priority.