Johns Hopkins 2022

[DocBarrister]

As far as Claiborne - the highlight snippets show 2 things - both you can't coach and both have nothing to do with the typical uselessness of highlight films
He's big enough
He's fast enough

To save time, you can just abbreviate to:

Him big.
Him fast.

DocBarrister

[DocBarrister]

Another ‘23 recruit: Ambidextrous Midfielder Zach Claiborne

https://www.connectlax.com/profile/ZacharyC10

https://youtu.be/Exbmq8Qwu5c

A 6'1" 200lb '23? Could be a beast by the time he shows up at Homewood.

Yes. He could play some attack.

Interesting you say that because this IL write-up pegs him as an SSDM. Maybe he will be, but that automatic classification for this type of player is getting old. He clearly has offensive ability https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... e=analysis

IL's evaluation seems pretty open to an offensive or defensive role in college, but you are right that he has offensive ability. I even looked at some old film, and while his hands aren't as smooth looking as some other players at that age, he makes a lot of different good offensive plays and looks very composed around the goal and makes the right pass when slid to.

I wonder if the idea of a high end D1 offensive midfielder is changing even more. Certainly one dimensional alley dodgers aren't in vogue right now and haven't been for a little while, but I wonder if we're even going past that and thinking that a player needs to have experience at attack or a box background to even be a good offensive midfielder. A lot of JHU's middies are converted attackmen or Canadian.

Of course, some of the very best SSDMs have an offensive mindset, always looking to initiate transition offense off a caused turnover or clean save. Those guys are athletic with enough stick skills to stay on offense if need be.

DocBarrister

[youthathletics]

Another ‘23 recruit: Ambidextrous Midfielder Zach Claiborne

https://www.connectlax.com/profile/ZacharyC10

https://youtu.be/Exbmq8Qwu5c

A 6'1" 200lb '23? Could be a beast by the time he shows up at Homewood.

Yes. He could play some attack.

Interesting you say that because this IL write-up pegs him as an SSDM. Maybe he will be, but that automatic classification for this type of player is getting old. He clearly has offensive ability https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... e=analysis

IL's evaluation seems pretty open to an offensive or defensive role in college, but you are right that he has offensive ability. I even looked at some old film, and while his hands aren't as smooth looking as some other players at that age, he makes a lot of different good offensive plays and looks very composed around the goal and makes the right pass when slid to.

I wonder if the idea of a high end D1 offensive midfielder is changing even more. Certainly one dimensional alley dodgers aren't in vogue right now and haven't been for a little while, but I wonder if we're even going past that and thinking that a player needs to have experience at attack or a box background to even be a good offensive midfielder. A lot of JHU's middies are converted attackmen or Canadian.

Of course, some of the very best SSDMs have an offensive mindset, always looking to initiate transition offense off a caused turnover or clean save. Those guys are athletic with enough stick skills to stay on offense if need be.

DocBarrister

Agreed Doc, but many coaches are so damned stubborn and calculating that the view the position as defensive only. They talk a great game about pushing transition.....until they get the kid on campus.

[51percentcorn]

I wouldn't worry about it. First off, you have another year and a couple months before he would sign a NLI - assuming he receives athletic money - so he's not even here yet. Second, if things go smoothly - I know it rarely does - but when Claiborne arrives - he could be looking at Grimes/Peshko/McDermott and now maybe Evans as Seniors that play mid-field - theoretically Angelus could even still be around - he's a soph in terms of eligibility - Phillips as a junior - and Iler and Collison as Sophs - and there are others that may present themselves e,g, Bauer or Raposo etc. So SSDM is likely his chance to see the field in the Spring of 2024. In 2025 and beyond there will be many opportunities to fill offensive spots.

[jhu06]

IL (for them) has had a good run of some decent stories

I don't know anything about tucker or girls lacrosse but her comments on transfers were really classy here. Also my guy 51 will get a kick out of the size of her roster. For those on the "daniels and baker are out to screw mens lax" narrative that girls lax roster number is interesting by comparison to what Petro had.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ily-/58535

The deep dive on rutgers was fascinating, lot of new faces and I sort of wonder how that lockerroom works with all those kids in and out. There's a huge disparity between them and some other programs like uva in terms of number of transfers. I'm not really sure on the $ value of all those study rooms but it's their $.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... gers/58543

Maybe the highest compliment you can pay a rival is you see his name even though he's been gone a few years and it still makes me squirm with dread. The sankey bitter gang and of course pat spencer who was in the news this week. If there's a list of all time blue jay killers at least in my mind he would be on it.

[HopFan16]

IL (for them) has had a good run of some decent stories

I don't know anything about tucker or girls lacrosse but her comments on transfers were really classy here. Also my guy 51 will get a kick out of the size of her roster. For those on the "daniels and baker are out to screw mens lax" narrative that girls lax roster number is interesting by comparison to what Petro had.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ily-/58535

The deep dive on rutgers was fascinating, lot of new faces and I sort of wonder how that lockerroom works with all those kids in and out. There's a huge disparity between them and some other programs like uva in terms of number of transfers. I'm not really sure on the $ value of all those study rooms but it's their $.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... gers/58543

Maybe the highest compliment you can pay a rival is you see his name even though he's been gone a few years and it still makes me squirm with dread. The sankey bitter gang and of course pat spencer who was in the news this week. If there's a list of all time blue jay killers at least in my mind he would be on it.

Spencer was an everyone killer. The Jays actually did a better job than most against him in '16, '17, and '18.

'19 he systematically dismantled us, but he did that to a lot of teams.

His bball career is fascinating. He's already made it further than most people expected. Size may ultimately be his undoing. 6'3'' is big for lacrosse but very tough to make it as a pro basketball player at that height unless you're an elite shooter or ball handler

[flalax22]

IL (for them) has had a good run of some decent stories

I don't know anything about tucker or girls lacrosse but her comments on transfers were really classy here. Also my guy 51 will get a kick out of the size of her roster. For those on the "daniels and baker are out to screw mens lax" narrative that girls lax roster number is interesting by comparison to what Petro had.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ily-/58535

The deep dive on rutgers was fascinating, lot of new faces and I sort of wonder how that lockerroom works with all those kids in and out. There's a huge disparity between them and some other programs like uva in terms of number of transfers. I'm not really sure on the $ value of all those study rooms but it's their $.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... gers/58543

Maybe the highest compliment you can pay a rival is you see his name even though he's been gone a few years and it still makes me squirm with dread. The sankey bitter gang and of course pat spencer who was in the news this week. If there's a list of all time blue jay killers at least in my mind he would be on it.

Spencer was an everyone killer. The Jays actually did a better job than most against him in '16, '17, and '18.

Tell that to Pat Foleys ankles. Kidding of course, he generally did a better job than most.

[HopFan16]

IL (for them) has had a good run of some decent stories

I don't know anything about tucker or girls lacrosse but her comments on transfers were really classy here. Also my guy 51 will get a kick out of the size of her roster. For those on the "daniels and baker are out to screw mens lax" narrative that girls lax roster number is interesting by comparison to what Petro had.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ily-/58535

The deep dive on rutgers was fascinating, lot of new faces and I sort of wonder how that lockerroom works with all those kids in and out. There's a huge disparity between them and some other programs like uva in terms of number of transfers. I'm not really sure on the $ value of all those study rooms but it's their $.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... gers/58543

Maybe the highest compliment you can pay a rival is you see his name even though he's been gone a few years and it still makes me squirm with dread. The sankey bitter gang and of course pat spencer who was in the news this week. If there's a list of all time blue jay killers at least in my mind he would be on it.

Spencer was an everyone killer. The Jays actually did a better job than most against him in '16, '17, and '18.

Tell that to Pat Foleys ankles. Kidding of course, he generally did a better job than most.

To be fair I think that was Rob Kuhn who got his ankles broken in the clip from that game that went viral

[DocBarrister]

Another ‘23 recruit: Ambidextrous Midfielder Zach Claiborne

https://www.connectlax.com/profile/ZacharyC10

https://youtu.be/Exbmq8Qwu5c

A 6'1" 200lb '23? Could be a beast by the time he shows up at Homewood.

Yes. He could play some attack.

Interesting you say that because this IL write-up pegs him as an SSDM. Maybe he will be, but that automatic classification for this type of player is getting old. He clearly has offensive ability https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... e=analysis

IL's evaluation seems pretty open to an offensive or defensive role in college, but you are right that he has offensive ability. I even looked at some old film, and while his hands aren't as smooth looking as some other players at that age, he makes a lot of different good offensive plays and looks very composed around the goal and makes the right pass when slid to.

I wonder if the idea of a high end D1 offensive midfielder is changing even more. Certainly one dimensional alley dodgers aren't in vogue right now and haven't been for a little while, but I wonder if we're even going past that and thinking that a player needs to have experience at attack or a box background to even be a good offensive midfielder. A lot of JHU's middies are converted attackmen or Canadian.

Of course, some of the very best SSDMs have an offensive mindset, always looking to initiate transition offense off a caused turnover or clean save. Those guys are athletic with enough stick skills to stay on offense if need be.

DocBarrister

Agreed Doc, but many coaches are so damned stubborn and calculating that the view the position as defensive only. They talk a great game about pushing transition.....until they get the kid on campus.

Well, can’t deny the truth of your statement.

Just to survey … don’t people enjoy the way Loyola plays aggressive defense?

DocBarrister

[flalax22]

IL (for them) has had a good run of some decent stories

I don't know anything about tucker or girls lacrosse but her comments on transfers were really classy here. Also my guy 51 will get a kick out of the size of her roster. For those on the "daniels and baker are out to screw mens lax" narrative that girls lax roster number is interesting by comparison to what Petro had.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ily-/58535

The deep dive on rutgers was fascinating, lot of new faces and I sort of wonder how that lockerroom works with all those kids in and out. There's a huge disparity between them and some other programs like uva in terms of number of transfers. I'm not really sure on the $ value of all those study rooms but it's their $.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... gers/58543

Maybe the highest compliment you can pay a rival is you see his name even though he's been gone a few years and it still makes me squirm with dread. The sankey bitter gang and of course pat spencer who was in the news this week. If there's a list of all time blue jay killers at least in my mind he would be on it.

Spencer was an everyone killer. The Jays actually did a better job than most against him in '16, '17, and '18.

Tell that to Pat Foleys ankles. Kidding of course, he generally did a better job than most.

To be fair I think that was Rob Kuhn who got his ankles broken in the clip from that game that went viral

Damn I must be getting old. I was sure it was Foley

[jhu06]

It was foley and the girls have 41 players this year. Even after cuts the men have 53.

[HopFan16]

It was foley and the girls have 41 players this year. Even after cuts the men have 53.

Maybe there is another clip but this is what I was referring to and it was not Foley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FJS5WdqxNk&t=116s

[Laxfan#1969]

Another ‘23 recruit: Ambidextrous Midfielder Zach Claiborne

https://www.connectlax.com/profile/ZacharyC10

https://youtu.be/Exbmq8Qwu5c

A 6'1" 200lb '23? Could be a beast by the time he shows up at Homewood.

Yes. He could play some attack.

Interesting you say that because this IL write-up pegs him as an SSDM. Maybe he will be, but that automatic classification for this type of player is getting old. He clearly has offensive ability https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... e=analysis

IL's evaluation seems pretty open to an offensive or defensive role in college, but you are right that he has offensive ability. I even looked at some old film, and while his hands aren't as smooth looking as some other players at that age, he makes a lot of different good offensive plays and looks very composed around the goal and makes the right pass when slid to.

I wonder if the idea of a high end D1 offensive midfielder is changing even more. Certainly one dimensional alley dodgers aren't in vogue right now and haven't been for a little while, but I wonder if we're even going past that and thinking that a player needs to have experience at attack or a box background to even be a good offensive midfielder. A lot of JHU's middies are converted attackmen or Canadian.

Of course, some of the very best SSDMs have an offensive mindset, always looking to initiate transition offense off a caused turnover or clean save. Those guys are athletic with enough stick skills to stay on offense if need be.

DocBarrister

Agreed Doc, but many coaches are so damned stubborn and calculating that the view the position as defensive only. They talk a great game about pushing transition.....until they get the kid on campus.

Interesting conversation here...especially discussing SSDM's and how different coaches have different approaches...the best SSDM's in my mind need to be a threat on offense...A good example of a team that uses offensive guys as shorties is Rutgers...they are offensive threats at all times when they get out in transition. I guess it's a case of what are you willing to give up defensively to get early offense...maybe nothing if you have the guy that can really do both well...IMO it's the toughest job in the game...and nobody talks about them...a really good SSDM that can do it all is like gold...

I also agree your are seeing more and more attack talent just moved to midfield...I think the thought process here is just getting your 6 best offensive players on the field...you see teams that really have 4-5 guys that technically could play attack yet 1 or 2 of them just run out of the box...this gives your offense a lot of flexibility and can create matchup advantages at times

[flalax22]

It was foley and the girls have 41 players this year. Even after cuts the men have 53.

Maybe there is another clip but this is what I was referring to and it was not Foley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FJS5WdqxNk&t=116s

Haha I forgot about that one. The one I was talking about Foley got caught on the back of the net and went down.

[HopFan16]

Most likely came against back-ups but Jerry Reen shows off a pretty impressive arsenal here. Runs right past a pole and dodges through the teeth of the D to finish with his left hand. Then comes back with a right-handed stepdown hammer from range. Then tosses a cross-field pass off a rollback with his left hand for an assist. We're a long way from saying he's the next Paul Rabil but even with the usual caveats these are the kinds of confident moves you want to see out of a freshman in a competitive setting. A decent predictor of future success for freshmen IMO is are they making plays with conviction early on. You can usually tell when things are just clicking or not.

[Matnum PI]

JHU v. Hobart. https://youtu.be/8sYqVuP6664

[jhu06]

JHU v. Hobart. https://youtu.be/8sYqVuP6664

thanks for the coverage

release the full tape

go jays

[DocBarrister]

JHU v. Hobart. https://youtu.be/8sYqVuP6664

Thanks!

Noticed the Blue Jays are using their actual jersey numbers.

DocBarrister

[HopFan16]

Not playing Princeton this year.

https://goprincetontigers.com/news/2021 ... ation.aspx

It does not feature Johns Hopkins, whom Princeton has played in every one of its seasons since 1937 except for the World War II year of 1944 but with whom a date for 2022 could not be worked out. Both teams hope to get each other back on their schedules for 2023.

https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 2694847495

NEWS - Due to schedule adjustments on both sides, Hopkins will not play @TigerLacrosse in 2022. Coaches already working on new date for 2023. #GoHop

Wonder what happened, given that they were apparently on the schedule as of the summer.

[Catbird]

Perhaps the decision from the B1G to add an extra weekend to the tournament again this year forced some changes?