Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

[old salt]

Why rush ? The SOL had not yet run.

Simple....you're not thinking this through.

The reason you'd do that is that you believe that there is a Deep State. Remember? You guys are convinced that's in place in the Federal Government.

Do you think Barr is unaware that you think that? So....if YOU believed that, and saw that Biden was about to arrive in January, and start the dirty tricks that you're 100% his "Deep State" does.....what would you do?

You'd indict on the layup gun charges. Then you'd indict on the no filing in 2015 and 2016 charges.

Then you'd let the FBI and DoJ keep working, hoping they'd find more.


Its simple, OS; is there a Deep State conspiracy, or not? You keep trying to contort your reasoning to fit your conclusion.

It doesn't work.

The amount of evidence is relevant to the sentence.

Then you have to blame them for working too slowly on a layup case. He didn't file taxes AT ALL for two years. And you're telling me here that they can't get charges prepped in two years? Or make a simple Federal gun charge stick in a year or two?

Come on. How the F did Mueller manage to get his investigation done in two years, then? Magic Beans?

You're trying SO hard to hold Barr, Rettig, and Wray blameless that you're making yourself dizzy.

The IRS WB"s were still building their case in late 2020. Weiss was not ready to indict yet. The IRS was still negotiating with Hunter for payment. They were working to indict for 2014 - 2019 tax filings in total, before the earliest SOLs expired in Oct 22.
The DC & CA US Atty's would not prosecute & Garland would not give Weiss the necessary special attorney authorization for those years.

Mueller's investigation began in 2016, well before he was appointed, & he found no collusion.
Just process crimes & previous unrelated financial crimes.

Why indict piecemeal when they had until Oct 2022 to file one all-encompassing indictment.

You're trying SO hard to create a diversion from the way the Biden DoJ slow rolled & tanked the investigation of Hunter.

[a fan]

You're trying SO hard to create a diversion from the way the Biden DoJ slow rolled & tanked the investigation of Hunter.

Not at all! I'm saying: you CANNOT have one with the other. If it weren't for the corruption or incompetence or collusion of the DoJ, FBI and IRS for TWO YEARS with a full team in each department working on Hunter.....not getting their sh(t together and indicting on simple charges?

This would have NEVER hit the desk of anyone in the Biden Admin.

Barr could step in at any time, and/or fire and/or reassign anyone he chooses in his command ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY for the corruption you are alleging.

He did NOTHING. This conspiracy of yours DOES NOT WORK with cooperation and/or incompetence by Bill Barr. Sorry man.

You can't tell me Weiss is this obviously corrupt, and Barr, the IRS and DoJ, were all powerless to stop him, sorry. That dog doesn't hunt.

[a fan]

Why indict piecemeal when they had until Oct 2022 to file one all-encompassing indictment.

Because there's a Deep State that's corruptly protecting Democrats, OS!!!! Remember??!?

Have you forgotten? Or do you REALLY think you know something that Bill Barr didn't know?

Bill Barr MUST indict before Joe arrives, because he knows the Deep State will let Hunter go.

[old salt]

You're trying SO hard to create a diversion from the way the Biden DoJ slow rolled & tanked the investigation of Hunter.

Not at all! I'm saying: you CANNOT have one with the other. If it weren't for the corruption or incompetence or collusion of the DoJ, FBI and IRS for TWO YEARS with a full team in each department working on Hunter.....not getting their sh(t together and indicting on simple charges?

This would have NEVER hit the desk of anyone in the Biden Admin.

Barr could step in at any time, and/or fire and/or reassign anyone he chooses in his command ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY for the corruption you are alleging.

He did NOTHING. This conspiracy of yours DOES NOT WORK with cooperation and/or incompetence by Bill Barr. Sorry man.

You can't tell me Weiss is this obviously corrupt, and Barr, the IRS and DoJ, were all powerless to stop him, sorry. That dog doesn't hunt.

They didn't have all the evidence they needed until after the 2020 election.
If the DC & CA US Atty's would have joined, they could have made the SOL deadline for 2014 & 2015.

[a fan]

You're trying SO hard to create a diversion from the way the Biden DoJ slow rolled & tanked the investigation of Hunter.

Not at all! I'm saying: you CANNOT have one with the other. If it weren't for the corruption or incompetence or collusion of the DoJ, FBI and IRS for TWO YEARS with a full team in each department working on Hunter.....not getting their sh(t together and indicting on simple charges?

This would have NEVER hit the desk of anyone in the Biden Admin.

Barr could step in at any time, and/or fire and/or reassign anyone he chooses in his command ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY for the corruption you are alleging.

He did NOTHING. This conspiracy of yours DOES NOT WORK with cooperation and/or incompetence by Bill Barr. Sorry man.

You can't tell me Weiss is this obviously corrupt, and Barr, the IRS and DoJ, were all powerless to stop him, sorry. That dog doesn't hunt.

They didn't have all the evidence they needed until after the 2020 election.

That's on Barr, then. No matter where you try and duck, you HAVE to hold him accountable. FBI report on his desk in Aug, ready to go.

IRS agents, assuming you believe them, said that Rettig and Barr "backburnered" the investigation in 2020.

You don't want to hold the Trump Admin responsible for their failures, OS. It's as clear as day. Sorry, it doesn't work like that.

[MDlaxfan76]

You're trying SO hard to create a diversion from the way the Biden DoJ slow rolled & tanked the investigation of Hunter.

Not at all! I'm saying: you CANNOT have one with the other. If it weren't for the corruption or incompetence or collusion of the DoJ, FBI and IRS for TWO YEARS with a full team in each department working on Hunter.....not getting their sh(t together and indicting on simple charges?

This would have NEVER hit the desk of anyone in the Biden Admin.

Barr could step in at any time, and/or fire and/or reassign anyone he chooses in his command ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY for the corruption you are alleging.

He did NOTHING. This conspiracy of yours DOES NOT WORK with cooperation and/or incompetence by Bill Barr. Sorry man.

You can't tell me Weiss is this obviously corrupt, and Barr, the IRS and DoJ, were all powerless to stop him, sorry. That dog doesn't hunt.

They didn't have all the evidence they needed until after the 2020 election.
If the DC & CA US Atty's would have joined, they could have made the SOL deadline for 2014 & 2015.

so, incompetent...2 years and they don't have the evidence to indict simple tax and gun charge? Nope, Barr et al were grasping for more and it just wasn't there...wishful thinking is incompetence.

Weiss had plenty in 2020...but after being allowing to investigate another 2 years, still doesn't have more...a logical answer is: it just ain't there to be found.

[MDlaxfan76]

Why indict piecemeal when they had until Oct 2022 to file one all-encompassing indictment.

Because there's a Deep State that's corruptly protecting Democrats, OS!!!! Remember??!?

Have you forgotten? Or do you REALLY think you know something that Bill Barr didn't know?

Bill Barr MUST indict before Joe arrives, because he knows the Deep State will let Hunter go.

Heck, who have thought Biden would allow the Trump appointed US Attorney Weiss to remain in place, continuing his investigation? Surely Barr wouldn't have foreseen that decision...

Surely, it was all over as soon as Biden took office...'cause that's what Barr and Trump would do, right?
Fire the prosecutor, issue some pardons, all kaput.

[old salt]

Why indict piecemeal when they had until Oct 2022 to file one all-encompassing indictment.

Because there's a Deep State that's corruptly protecting Democrats, OS!!!! Remember??!?

Have you forgotten? Or do you REALLY think you know something that Bill Barr didn't know?

Bill Barr MUST indict before Joe arrives, because he knows the Deep State will let Hunter go.

Barr wasn't going to do what he accused Comey of doing -- interfering in the next election & transition of power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/21/attorne ... probe.html
Attorney General Barr says special counsel not needed for Hunter Biden investigation, undercutting Trump

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/21/94878725 ... fraud-clai

https://www.wsj.com/articles/barr-kept- ... 1607951984

Barr Kept Hunter Biden Probes From Public to Avoid Election Politics
In preventing leaks, attorney general hewed to Justice Department practice and defied his critics’ view of him

Dec. 14, 2020

Attorney General William Barr, in the weeks before November’s election, instructed prosecutors and senior colleagues to prevent word of investigations into Hunter Biden from becoming public and keep the Justice Department out of campaign politics, according to people familiar with the matter.

Mr. Barr took more steps than previously reported to insulate the investigations, despite calls from President Trump and Republican allies to announce a probe involving President-elect Joe Biden’s son Hunter.

Mr. Barr and senior department officials relayed the instructions in conversations with prosecutors, questioning whether their staff members could be trusted and warning against issuing subpoenas or taking other steps that might become public, some of the people familiar with the matter said.

The department didn’t respond to an October letter from Republican lawmakers requesting Mr. Barr appoint a special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden and his father.

Justice Department guidelines codified in 2012 caution against taking actions close to an election that could be seen as seeking to affect the outcome. Disclosing details of an ongoing investigation into the son of a presidential candidate hit a line Mr. Barr felt would violate that policy and give the appearance of interfering in the election, people close to him said.

The investigations into Hunter Biden spilled into public view last week after Mr. Biden announced his tax affairs were under investigation. ...The investigations, which began in 2018...

[a fan]

Why indict piecemeal when they had until Oct 2022 to file one all-encompassing indictment.

Because there's a Deep State that's corruptly protecting Democrats, OS!!!! Remember??!?

Have you forgotten? Or do you REALLY think you know something that Bill Barr didn't know?

Bill Barr MUST indict before Joe arrives, because he knows the Deep State will let Hunter go.

Barr wasn't going to do what he accused Comey of doing -- interfering in the next election & transition of power.

So....obvious that he disagrees with you. He would NEVER do that if he thought there was a Deep State.

The ONLY way he'd do that is if he thought his Department would play straight pool with Hunter's crimes.

Otherwise? He's obviously break with what is nothing more than a tradition, and indict after the election.

[old salt]

Why indict piecemeal when they had until Oct 2022 to file one all-encompassing indictment.

Because there's a Deep State that's corruptly protecting Democrats, OS!!!! Remember??!?

Have you forgotten? Or do you REALLY think you know something that Bill Barr didn't know?

Bill Barr MUST indict before Joe arrives, because he knows the Deep State will let Hunter go.

Barr wasn't going to do what he accused Comey of doing -- interfering in the next election & transition of power.

So....obvious that he disagrees with you. He would NEVER do that if he thought there was a Deep State.

The ONLY way he'd do that is if he thought his Department would play straight pool with Hunter's crimes.

Otherwise? He's obviously break with what is nothing more than a tradition, and indict after the election.

Another factor -- had Hunter been indicted earlier, he could have requested a speedy trial, forcing the prosecutor to go to trial, or make a misdemeanor plea deal, before they ran down all the foreign income revenue streams. Look at the number of bank SAR's that had to be tracked down.

[Brooklyn]

rePUKEbliCONs are obsessed over Hunter Biden even though he is not a member of the White House because they think that will get your attention away from tRump and his problems:



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[MDlaxfan76]

Why indict piecemeal when they had until Oct 2022 to file one all-encompassing indictment.

Because there's a Deep State that's corruptly protecting Democrats, OS!!!! Remember??!?

Have you forgotten? Or do you REALLY think you know something that Bill Barr didn't know?

Bill Barr MUST indict before Joe arrives, because he knows the Deep State will let Hunter go.

Barr wasn't going to do what he accused Comey of doing -- interfering in the next election & transition of power.

So....obvious that he disagrees with you. He would NEVER do that if he thought there was a Deep State.

The ONLY way he'd do that is if he thought his Department would play straight pool with Hunter's crimes.

Otherwise? He's obviously break with what is nothing more than a tradition, and indict after the election.

Another factor -- had Hunter been indicted earlier, he could have requested a speedy trial, forcing the prosecutor to go to trial, or make a misdemeanor plea deal, before they ran down all the foreign income revenue streams. Look at the number of bank SAR's that had to be tracked down.

You do realize that a conviction for a crime doesn't prevent investigation of other crimes, right? If the evidence was strong on one crime, prosecute, get a conviction, and charge others when the evidence is sufficient to do so. Or shut up if there's no such evidence to be found.

[old salt]

Why indict piecemeal when they had until Oct 2022 to file one all-encompassing indictment.

Because there's a Deep State that's corruptly protecting Democrats, OS!!!! Remember??!?

Have you forgotten? Or do you REALLY think you know something that Bill Barr didn't know?

Bill Barr MUST indict before Joe arrives, because he knows the Deep State will let Hunter go.

Barr wasn't going to do what he accused Comey of doing -- interfering in the next election & transition of power.

So....obvious that he disagrees with you. He would NEVER do that if he thought there was a Deep State.

The ONLY way he'd do that is if he thought his Department would play straight pool with Hunter's crimes.

Otherwise? He's obviously break with what is nothing more than a tradition, and indict after the election.

Another factor -- had Hunter been indicted earlier, he could have requested a speedy trial, forcing the prosecutor to go to trial, or make a misdemeanor plea deal, before they ran down all the foreign income revenue streams. Look at the number of bank SAR's that had to be tracked down.

You do realize that a conviction for a crime doesn't prevent investigation of other crimes, right? If the evidence was strong on one crime, prosecute, get a conviction, and charge others when the evidence is sufficient to do so. Or shut up if there's no such evidence to be found.

So long as the SOL has not run, it does not make sense to do so. When Barr left office, there were almost 2 years left on the SOL for the first 2 of 5 years. They were still gathering evidence relevant to those first 2 years.

[a fan]

So long as the SOL has not run, it does not make sense to do so.

Buffalo bagels.

You/re telling the forum that Bill Barr thinks that Old Salt is full of sh*t, and doesn't believe there is such thing as a Deep State.,

Because if Barr DID believe in one? He'd assign hand picked help to finish the investigation within 2 years (something that Mueller did no problemo)...,and make his indictment.

You should know that you're out of excuses and fairy tales if even Bill Barr doesn't believe in your Deep State silliness, OS.


There is NO WAY Barr would let Hunter's case slide if he believes the Dems are inherently corrupt. Not a chance.

[MDlaxfan76]

So long as the SOL has not run, it does not make sense to do so.

Buffalo bagels.

You/re telling the forum that Bill Barr thinks that Old Salt is full of sh*t, and doesn't believe there is such thing as a Deep State.,

Because if Barr DID believe in one? He'd assign hand picked help to finish the investigation within 2 years (something that Mueller did no problemo)...,and make his indictment.

You should know that you're out of excuses and fairy tales if even Bill Barr doesn't believe in your Deep State silliness, OS.


There is NO WAY Barr would let Hunter's case slide if he believes the Dems are inherently corrupt. Not a chance.

Exactly. It's nonsensical and even Barr didn't believe in it if Salty is correct that they just figured that with some more investigation they'd be able to prosecute within the next 2 years. It was already pretty darn obvious that Trump was going to lose in November, and if I recall correctly, Barr himself said that was what he expected would happen, so it's not as if a continuation of Barr's tenure was a sure thing...

They just didn't have the goods to prosecute...And from the political POV, this was again about wanting the allegation not the prosecution, so no sweat, we'll just keeping making claims of wrongdoing we can't back up with evidence.

Sheesh, this guy Archer essentially refuted any notion that Joe had any involvement in Hunter's business beyond merely being Hunter's dad. And yet, the MAGA sorts are claiming quite the opposite...but they don't care about truth...nor does Salty, apparently.

[old salt]

So long as the SOL has not run, it does not make sense to do so.

Buffalo bagels.

You/re telling the forum that Bill Barr thinks that Old Salt is full of sh*t, and doesn't believe there is such thing as a Deep State.,

Because if Barr DID believe in one? He'd assign hand picked help to finish the investigation within 2 years (something that Mueller did no problemo)...,and make his indictment.

You should know that you're out of excuses and fairy tales if even Bill Barr doesn't believe in your Deep State silliness, OS.


There is NO WAY Barr would let Hunter's case slide if he believes the Dems are inherently corrupt. Not a chance.

Exactly. It's nonsensical and even Barr didn't believe in it if Salty is correct that they just figured that with some more investigation they'd be able to prosecute within the next 2 years. It was already pretty darn obvious that Trump was going to lose in November, and if I recall correctly, Barr himself said that was what he expected would happen, so it's not as if a continuation of Barr's tenure was a sure thing...

They just didn't have the goods to prosecute...And from the political POV, this was again about wanting the allegation not the prosecution, so no sweat, we'll just keeping making claims of wrongdoing we can't back up with evidence.

Sheesh, this guy Archer essentially refuted any notion that Joe had any involvement in Hunter's business beyond merely being Hunter's dad. And yet, the MAGA sorts are claiming quite the opposite...but they don't care about truth...nor does Salty, apparently.

They still had almost 2 years to get the goods to charge tax fraud rather than just failure to file.
You're both making a silly diversionary argument to distract from Garland slow rolling & subverting the investigation, as the IRS WB's have proven.
You're both grasping at straws.

[a fan]

They still had almost 2 years to get the goods to charge tax fraud rather than just failure to file.
You're both making a silly diversionary argument to distract from Garland slow rolling & subverting the investigation, as the IRS WB's have proven.
You're both grasping at straws.

My response is: scoreboard. Look at the scoreboard. I'm grasping at reality. You're making stuff up with zero evidence,

But yet again-----your argument here is that Bill Barr couldn't POSSIBLY have investigated Hunter in under 2 years...and would need YEARS more time to get the investigation finished......

.....while ALSO arguing that in 2021, the DoJ started dragging their feet.

Does this sort of logic work for you anywhere? Because it's just laughable here, OS.

[old salt]

They still had almost 2 years to get the goods to charge tax fraud rather than just failure to file.
You're both making a silly diversionary argument to distract from Garland slow rolling & subverting the investigation, as the IRS WB's have proven.
You're both grasping at straws.

My response is: scoreboard. Look at the scoreboard. I'm grasping at reality. You're making stuff up with zero evidence,

But yet again-----your argument here is that Bill Barr couldn't POSSIBLY have investigated Hunter in under 2 years...and would need YEARS more time to get the investigation finished......

.....while ALSO arguing that in 2021, the DoJ started dragging their feet.

Does this sort of logic work for you anywhere? Because it's just laughable here, OS.

The IRS WB's laid out the timeline for you. There wasn't time to verify the FD 1023 before the election. They didn't yet know what foreign income that Hunter had from 2014 & 2015. That could make the difference between failure to file & tax fraud.

[MDlaxfan76]

So long as the SOL has not run, it does not make sense to do so.

Buffalo bagels.

You/re telling the forum that Bill Barr thinks that Old Salt is full of sh*t, and doesn't believe there is such thing as a Deep State.,

Because if Barr DID believe in one? He'd assign hand picked help to finish the investigation within 2 years (something that Mueller did no problemo)...,and make his indictment.

You should know that you're out of excuses and fairy tales if even Bill Barr doesn't believe in your Deep State silliness, OS.


There is NO WAY Barr would let Hunter's case slide if he believes the Dems are inherently corrupt. Not a chance.

Exactly. It's nonsensical and even Barr didn't believe in it if Salty is correct that they just figured that with some more investigation they'd be able to prosecute within the next 2 years. It was already pretty darn obvious that Trump was going to lose in November, and if I recall correctly, Barr himself said that was what he expected would happen, so it's not as if a continuation of Barr's tenure was a sure thing...

They just didn't have the goods to prosecute...And from the political POV, this was again about wanting the allegation not the prosecution, so no sweat, we'll just keeping making claims of wrongdoing we can't back up with evidence.

Sheesh, this guy Archer essentially refuted any notion that Joe had any involvement in Hunter's business beyond merely being Hunter's dad. And yet, the MAGA sorts are claiming quite the opposite...but they don't care about truth...nor does Salty, apparently.

They still had almost 2 years to get the goods to charge tax fraud rather than just failure to file.
You're both making a silly diversionary argument to distract from Garland slow rolling & subverting the investigation, as the IRS WB's have proven.
You're both grasping at straws.

First, there's zero actual evidence of any interference in the case from Garland, and a direct refutation by the Trump-appointed, Barr endorsed prosecutor Weiss. The WB's have presented zero proof of anything, and Weiss directly refutes them in writing to Congress...which would be a criminal act if he is lying.

So, that's an actual lie by you.

Second, on the logic, they had two full years to bring a case, any case, on the tax matter and they didn't...so, unless Barr was interfering and telling Weiss to hold off (unafraid of the Deep State), they simply didn't have the evidence...and yet, we're told failure to file was a slam dunk (of course!)...fraud, not so simple...and with the IRS having delivered their report that summer, the conclusion had to be they simply didn't have enough to convict on stronger charges, else indict...better to have an open case in which allegations can be made but don't need to prove anything in court.

2 full years, with a deadline looming of a new Admin...indict or you don't have it.

[MDlaxfan76]

They still had almost 2 years to get the goods to charge tax fraud rather than just failure to file.
You're both making a silly diversionary argument to distract from Garland slow rolling & subverting the investigation, as the IRS WB's have proven.
You're both grasping at straws.

My response is: scoreboard. Look at the scoreboard. I'm grasping at reality. You're making stuff up with zero evidence,

But yet again-----your argument here is that Bill Barr couldn't POSSIBLY have investigated Hunter in under 2 years...and would need YEARS more time to get the investigation finished......

.....while ALSO arguing that in 2021, the DoJ started dragging their feet.

Does this sort of logic work for you anywhere? Because it's just laughable here, OS.

The IRS WB's laid out the timeline for you. There wasn't time to verify the FD 1023 before the election. They didn't yet know what foreign income that Hunter had from 2014 & 2015. That could make the difference between failure to file & tax fraud.

So, you're saying that in 2 years of investigation the IRS agents didn't have the evidence...2 years...and somehow, magically I guess, they'd have it later?

So...we're to believe them that the problem was that new Admin didn't want them to keep investigating, rather than, "put up or shut up" coming from the Trump appointed prosecutor? These guys had their feelings hurt because the Trump appointed prosecutor and Bill Barr didn't give them enough time?