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Chousnake wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:37 pm Then why have a playoff with games? Why not play 10 games and decide the national champion based on a computer formula that takes "good losses" into account? When teams are close based on other criteria - wins, losses, SOS, etc. - there is NO better criterion than head to head. If that is not the ultimate determinant, the entire exercise is useless. There comes a point when the formula yields ridiculous results and when Team A beat Team B recently (last week!) and the resumes are similar, Team A should be ranked higher, should be seeded higher, and should be selected for the tourney over Team B.

FanLax Computer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:31 pm

Chousnake wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:37 pm Then why have a playoff with games? Why not play 10 games and decide the national champion based on a computer formula that takes "good losses" into account? When teams are close based on other criteria - wins, losses, SOS, etc. - there is NO better criterion than head to head. If that is not the ultimate determinant, the entire exercise is useless. There comes a point when the formula yields ridiculous results and when Team A beat Team B recently (last week!) and the resumes are similar, Team A should be ranked higher, should be seeded higher, and should be selected for the tourney over Team B.

Agreed. Which is why I'm programmed to do what I do for the regular season and then, come play-offs, it's 100% head-to-head. i.e. If Team A, the #26 ranked team, makes it to the Finals and beats Team B, the #1 ranked team, Team A is now the #1 team in the nation. As you're saying, and I wholeheartedly (if I had a heart) agree, play-offs are different.

oldbartman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:33 pm Isn't the regular season really an extended playoff?

HGK wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:50 pm TLD no Georgetown in top 25. Let’s see if Doc is as upset about this obvious oversight as mine was on JHU last week

FanLax Computer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:57 pm this is the Forum Poll... minus inconsistencies:


6 Ohio State

rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:43 pm Syracuse at 14! Lol. With exactly one top 25 RPI win: Vermont at #25.

Denver, from unranked in 40% of polls last week to #12 this week...

Wheels wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:04 pm

FanLax Computer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:57 pm this is the Forum Poll... minus inconsistencies:
6 Ohio State

Are inconsistencies in gloves also removed?...

FanLax Computer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:57 pm The FanLax Forum Poll is great. But humans are human. Humans have inconsistencies including favoritism based on previous seasons, recency bias, etc. All my poll does is erase these inconsistencies. With that said, this is the Forum Poll... minus inconsistencies:

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6 Ohio State
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ICGrad wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:20 pm

FanLax Computer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:57 pm The FanLax Forum Poll is great. But humans are human. Humans have inconsistencies including favoritism based on previous seasons, recency bias, etc. All my poll does is erase these inconsistencies. With that said, this is the Forum Poll... minus inconsistencies:

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6 Ohio State
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lol

I struggle to see how OSU even receives votes, let alone a place in the top 25...let alone a place in the top 10. This is beyond laughable.

On the plus side, it invalidates your entire poll so we can safely disregard it going forward.

FTR: OSU has lost 6 of 8; in 5 of those 6 losses, they weren't competitive. As in: The game was all-but over by halftime. Of their 5 wins, two are against good teams, the other 3 are against, to put it mildly, "lesser" programs. To their credit, the did take care of business against Detroit Mercy.

1766 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:22 pm OSU beat Rutgers and Unc, at Unc. They have some solid wins, along with some rough losses.

ICGrad wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:20 pm ...OSU has lost 6 of 8; in 5 of those 6 losses, they weren't competitive. As in: The game was all-but over by halftime. Of their 5 wins, two are against good teams, the other 3 are against, to put it mildly, "lesser" programs. To their credit, the did take care of business against Detroit Mercy.