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The CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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Also has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
I suspect they really have little on the guy during the riot other than the break in and being found inside the building. It is not illegal to wear an offensive shirt. A number of the others arrested ended up with similar outcomes.
If it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
Indeed, there's no charge for being a disgusting a-hole. There's a lot of video to go through...anyone want to wager he didn't do anything more than walk around looking like an anti-semitic nutcase?jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:54 pmI suspect they really have little on the guy during the riot other than the break in and being found inside the building. It is not illegal to wear an offensive shirt. A number of the others arrested ended up with similar outcomes.
CNN is reporting the facts fairly...are you saying the prosecutors are sensationalizing? They have him on tape reportedly...old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs. If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.
old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ? I have no clue, asked the writer....I'm asking you why make an issue out of where he had his beer, which is not the actual point of the articleforeverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs.
If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.You wont get an argument out of me regarding clickbaiting.
Misleading sensationalized CNN headline.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:32 pmCNN is reporting the facts fairly...are you saying the prosecutors are sensationalizing? They have him on tape reportedly...old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs. If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.
Did that have anything to do with alcohol... or that the prosecutors have him on tape flashing white power signs?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:39 pmMisleading sensationalized CNN headline.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:32 pmCNN is reporting the facts fairly...are you saying the prosecutors are sensationalizing? They have him on tape reportedly...old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs. If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.
You tell us. CNN just reported "was seen".MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 pmDid that have anything to do with alcohol... or that the prosecutors have him on tape flashing white power signs?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:39 pmMisleading sensationalized CNN headline.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:32 pmCNN is reporting the facts fairly...are you saying the prosecutors are sensationalizing? They have him on tape reportedly...old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs. If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.
Is is not the far more serious issue than whether he had a cold beer with his mom?
nope, "surveillance video".old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:44 pmYou tell us. CNN just reported "was seen".MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 pmDid that have anything to do with alcohol... or that the prosecutors have him on tape flashing white power signs?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:39 pmMisleading sensationalized CNN headline.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:32 pmCNN is reporting the facts fairly...are you saying the prosecutors are sensationalizing? They have him on tape reportedly...old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs. If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.
Is is not the far more serious issue than whether he had a cold beer with his mom?
"his behavior". CNN does not specify that the hand gestures were captured on the video.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:50 pmnope, "surveillance video".old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:44 pmYou tell us. CNN just reported "was seen".MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 pmDid that have anything to do with alcohol... or that the prosecutors have him on tape flashing white power signs?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:39 pmMisleading sensationalized CNN headline.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:32 pmCNN is reporting the facts fairly...are you saying the prosecutors are sensationalizing? They have him on tape reportedly...old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs. If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.
Is is not the far more serious issue than whether he had a cold beer with his mom?
meaning the white power signs.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:03 pm"his behavior". CNN does not specify that the hand gestures were captured on the video.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:50 pmnope, "surveillance video".old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:44 pmYou tell us. CNN just reported "was seen".MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 pmDid that have anything to do with alcohol... or that the prosecutors have him on tape flashing white power signs?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:39 pmMisleading sensationalized CNN headline.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:32 pmCNN is reporting the facts fairly...are you saying the prosecutors are sensationalizing? They have him on tape reportedly...old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs. If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.
Is is not the far more serious issue than whether he had a cold beer with his mom?
Show us the video images.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:06 pmmeaning the white power signs.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:03 pm"his behavior". CNN does not specify that the hand gestures were captured on the video.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:50 pmnope, "surveillance video".old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:44 pmYou tell us. CNN just reported "was seen".MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 pmDid that have anything to do with alcohol... or that the prosecutors have him on tape flashing white power signs?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:39 pmMisleading sensationalized CNN headline.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:32 pmCNN is reporting the facts fairly...are you saying the prosecutors are sensationalizing? They have him on tape reportedly...old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:01 pmIf it doesn't matter, why did CNN include that the prosecutors want him banned from consuming alcohol, then give us a seminar on IL vs WI drinking age laws ?foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pmAlso has nothing to do with the article -old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:24 pmThe CNN article does not make it clear that he was served the beer in WI, where it is perfectly legal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:08 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle- ... index.html
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trolls have to troll.Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after they say he displayed racist signs
The office is requesting that Rittenhouse be prohibited from possessing or consuming alcohol or being in any establishment that serves it; be prohibited from making any public display of any "white power" or "white supremacy" signs, symbols, or hand gestures; and not have any contact with any known militia members or members of any violent white power/white supremacist groups including the group identified as the "Proud Boys."
The headline says he displayed racist signs. If you just read the headline, it would be reasonable to think he was holding up a sign, rather than purportedly flashing a supposed racist hand gesture. Misleading sensationalism.
Is is not the far more serious issue than whether he had a cold beer with his mom?
But hey, as usual you know better than the prosecutors and the reporters...more gaslighting from you.
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:09 amtech37 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:00 amMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:27 am
Ok, the way I read your response, given that I lack humility apparently, is that you're afraid to answer straight that question, to admit that you were wrong in your attack.
Attack? Oh please...
I will say that rooting out any racists in law enforcement will need to be accomplished through reform with thorough personality assessment. Some will still slip through and others may develop racist tendencies through their experience on the job. Don't be crushed, it will never be perfect.
Just be careful in your pogrom to root out all racism that you don't take down a lot of innocent people in the process.
"pogrom"...you reveal yourself again. Glad we agree about racists having no business in policing. I'm fine with the personality assessment concept, especially in hiring, but I'm not looking for some sort of witchhunt purge. But when there are clear indications of racist views, whether complaints from the public or fellow officers, I want the officer out if there's confirming evidence of that racism such as social media posts, activities of association with racist chat groups (unless officially undercover of course), etc...out, no protection from union or bosses.
It doesn't reveal anything about me. On the contrary, it reveals and describes, what has been IMO, your zealous need to uncover racism anywhere and everywhere, whether justified or not. It's also descriptive of your past blind acceptance of, for example, absurd, truly racist, and IMO, regressive opinions/notions such as "white privilege". I see you understood my progrom reference perfectly well by your apt choice of words "witchhunt purge." Fine, so you claim that's not who you are but based on the content of your posts over the past four years, I have my doubts.
What's the BS???? the Big Lie. That Trump won the election in a landslide, that the only reason why he didn't have larger vote counts than Biden was due to massive, multi-state fraud. That the Courts didn't do their jobs.
Ah, "The Big Lie." Well, I said I wouldn't be voting and didn't, so I'm not really in any position to complain now am I?
From an objective non-voter POV, the entire process did look FUBAR to me. I was happy not to have been a part of it. Hopefully FUBAR is not the case and the voting process can be much improved going forward. I hope to see the day when I have confidence in the voting process, if/when in my mind a viable candidate emerges. I won't hold my breath.
FUBAR?, so you've bought the Big Lie. You think because you didn't bother to vote against this guy, you are absolved of responsibility as a citizen?
Got it.
So that's what you came away with from what I wrote? More distorted interpretation from you.
I have bought nothing. I can't be certain what transpired throughout the voting process this past year, other than Covid had an effect just as it has had with everything else. Your certainty that the election was somehow flawless and shouldn't be questioned or assessed so that it might be improved for future POTUS elections, speaks volumes.
As far as my "responsibility," that's none of your business. As a citizen I have the right to sit out any election if I feel the two candidates produced by the omnipotent two-party system are unacceptable. IMO, that was absolutely the case with this election. Don't give me your bullsh!t stance that, if you didn't vote against him, you were for him.
These are paraphrased quotes directly from Trump, repeated on right wing media, repeated by my brother-in-law. That's why he was there.
Geez it must add to your insanity to have a MAGA person living under your roof. You're obviously doing a poor job coercing him to line up with the "woke" side. Remember, "think globally, act locally."
I don't expect to 'guide' or control or 'coerce' my brother-in-law or anyone else. I've had a direct window into the Trump cult effect, but he's not the only window. I quoted Trump...you ignored those quotes.
How about the resistance cult effect? IMO, the frantic, delirious, and excessive response to Trump throughout his presidency was as damaging to the country as anything Trump did or said himself. You refuse to see and/or can't admit that the resistance rhetoric and actions targeting Trump and his supporters the past four years, bears substantial responsibility for the Jan 6 debacle and how seriously divided the country is.
I don't get where you're saying I think the misguided etc need MY guidance. This is a discussion board, I'm simply expressing my views. If you want to ignore my views, go ahead.
Thanks for your permission.
And no, I certainly don't have anything against SU ! Glad you weren't there wearing an SU shirt, carrying a lax stick to beat on police with...I only asked because you seem so offended that anyone would think many of these people are whacked out, drunk on the Big Lie, misguided by a fascist sociopath in the White House, insurrectionists and seditionists...seemed like you had some stake in defending the violence, the calls to hang the Vice President, the hunt for the Speaker and other members of Congress, the beating of cops, the waving of Confederate flags, the Auschwitz and other anti-semitic symbols...all for Trump...
"many of these people"? How many were there in total? All of the images I've seen from the deceitful media, show only the goons rushing the Capitol. I suppose that conscious edit somehow helps support some narrative. Has anyone provided an accurate count? If there were perhaps thousands there, my assumption would be that the majority was not party to some designed insurrection.
I'm not sure exactly what you meant, but if you're insinuating that I have been "defending the violence." you're lying.
YIKES..."deceitful media"??? Maybe you haven't bothered to watch the many, many videos, the many wide pan as well as close ups of that crowd, the flags and banners waved, the interviews with dozens and dozens of otherwise normal looking MAGA folks there...it's horrifying. 10's of thousands crowded in.
Or are you meaning "deceitful media" as to those in some media claiming this was Antifa? Totally denied by the FBI already. Is that the media you trust, been watching?
But sure, there were over 100 thousand people who went to the protest, not all participated in the mob action, not all chanted hang Mike Pence, not all beat on cops with pipes and flag poles, not all carried flags clearly identified with white supremacy groups, not all wore Q paraphernalia...but they ALL marched side by side with those who did. And sure, most of them were not there knowingly in a coordinated violent insurrection, though the idiots (my term of art) did think they were there to reverse the results of the election...some didn't expect to be successful, but that was indeed their hope. And they thought their cause was righteous because they'd been told the Big Lie by their cult leader and his minions.
"but they ALL marched side by side with those who did"... guilt by association in your mind, no surprise... but quite unconvincing considering a crowd that size.
Otherwise, good to see you've softened your rhetoric somewhat by taking a more honest and logical view of the Jan 6th crowd. Your last unfortunate sentence is just more hyperbolic nonsense.