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sportsfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:25 pm Maybe Maryland needs to look at what their system is. The top teams all have dynamic offenses and Maryland is flat. The shooting has been bad all year and the offense doesn't play loose with any creativity. Probably too late for this year.

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:59 pm

sportsfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:25 pm Maybe Maryland needs to look at what their system is. The top teams all have dynamic offenses and Maryland is flat. The shooting has been bad all year and the offense doesn't play loose with any creativity. Probably too late for this year.

Say what? They've won 2 of the last 5 national championships plus (lost count) something like 9 of 11 final fours. The system is the best in the game. They have less talent this year than the 3 top teams, and still beat one of them and took the other to triple overtime. There's plenty of "loose" playing teams that won't be in the tournament this year; Terps will be there....again.

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:26 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:59 pm

sportsfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:25 pm Maybe Maryland needs to look at what their system is. The top teams all have dynamic offenses and Maryland is flat. The shooting has been bad all year and the offense doesn't play loose with any creativity. Probably too late for this year.

Say what? They've won 2 of the last 5 national championships plus (lost count) something like 9 of 11 final fours. The system is the best in the game. They have less talent this year than the 3 top teams, and still beat one of them and took the other to triple overtime. There's plenty of "loose" playing teams that won't be in the tournament this year; Terps will be there....again.

I think the original post is a troll

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:14 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:10 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:01 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:56 pm

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:06 pm Makes ya wonder if 2nd line will become 1rst with increasing body of evidence

I would expect every offensive position except Erksa's to be in play for upgrade next year, either by portal, current roster development or incoming freshmen. Never doubt Tillman in any tournament matchup, especially with Wierman and the defense, but the offense isn't close to the level of the elite teams (even the non-elites like Michigan).

When Maryland was preseason #1, I wondered why? The reason was “they won last year”….by that logic, UCONN basketball is preseason number 1 next year despite all the losses. Maryland lost a lot of offensive experience and then had injuries. They will be back.

The defense still looked like the best projected unit in the country. And it's been in the Top 5. They've had some games where they were worse than expected but still been elite.

No one could have predicted McNaney blowing out his knee, if not for that they probably win at least 1 more game. Murphy has missed significant time, which when coupled with the Malever injury took them from losing their Top 4 scorers from last years team to 6 of the Top 7 for long stretches. Wierman has also been banged up all year, not saying that's cost them a game but played a part.

The offense has been way worse than expected. But also if anyone thought Maryland would have an offense on the level of like Marquette, then fair enough, amazing prediction, but I don't think anyone predicted that. Some people had Virginia #1 instead, and that was fine. But how low were they supposed to be ranked? They're still a Top 5-7 team in the country and two of the Top 7 teams were not even ranked in the preseason.

If "Maryland shouldn't have been preseason #1" but then you had them like #3, to me that seems like you're saying you also expected them to be better you just had them 1 or 2 spots lower. The difference between #1 and #3 is miniscule in any year that doesn't have a team like Maryland was last year or maybe a 2019 Penn State type team

You can’t just win a championship with defense. My only point was Maryland lost a lot of offensive production that never seems to matter in lacrosse but does in every other sport.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:02 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:14 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:10 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:01 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:56 pm

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:06 pm Makes ya wonder if 2nd line will become 1rst with increasing body of evidence

I would expect every offensive position except Erksa's to be in play for upgrade next year, either by portal, current roster development or incoming freshmen. Never doubt Tillman in any tournament matchup, especially with Wierman and the defense, but the offense isn't close to the level of the elite teams (even the non-elites like Michigan).

When Maryland was preseason #1, I wondered why? The reason was “they won last year”….by that logic, UCONN basketball is preseason number 1 next year despite all the losses. Maryland lost a lot of offensive experience and then had injuries. They will be back.

The defense still looked like the best projected unit in the country. And it's been in the Top 5. They've had some games where they were worse than expected but still been elite.

No one could have predicted McNaney blowing out his knee, if not for that they probably win at least 1 more game. Murphy has missed significant time, which when coupled with the Malever injury took them from losing their Top 4 scorers from last years team to 6 of the Top 7 for long stretches. Wierman has also been banged up all year, not saying that's cost them a game but played a part.

The offense has been way worse than expected. But also if anyone thought Maryland would have an offense on the level of like Marquette, then fair enough, amazing prediction, but I don't think anyone predicted that. Some people had Virginia #1 instead, and that was fine. But how low were they supposed to be ranked? They're still a Top 5-7 team in the country and two of the Top 7 teams were not even ranked in the preseason.

If "Maryland shouldn't have been preseason #1" but then you had them like #3, to me that seems like you're saying you also expected them to be better you just had them 1 or 2 spots lower. The difference between #1 and #3 is miniscule in any year that doesn't have a team like Maryland was last year or maybe a 2019 Penn State type team

You can’t just win a championship with defense. My only point was Maryland lost a lot of offensive production that never seems to matter in lacrosse but does in every other sport.

they're gonna try. the terps are exactly where i expected them to be this year so far. the $52,000 question was always going to be can u win in the shot clock era with defense. it's too small a sample size so far to rule it out.

get it to x wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:55 pm

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:26 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:59 pm

sportsfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:25 pm Maybe Maryland needs to look at what their system is. The top teams all have dynamic offenses and Maryland is flat. The shooting has been bad all year and the offense doesn't play loose with any creativity. Probably too late for this year.

Say what? They've won 2 of the last 5 national championships plus (lost count) something like 9 of 11 final fours. The system is the best in the game. They have less talent this year than the 3 top teams, and still beat one of them and took the other to triple overtime. There's plenty of "loose" playing teams that won't be in the tournament this year; Terps will be there....again.

I think the original post is a troll

Yes. 4th post on this board. Dynamic players make dynamic offenses. Who is the Bernhardt or Wisnauskas on this team? Who is the motor? Geppert or Wierman are motor types, but who on offense?

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:02 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:14 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:10 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:01 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:56 pm

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:06 pm Makes ya wonder if 2nd line will become 1rst with increasing body of evidence

I would expect every offensive position except Erksa's to be in play for upgrade next year, either by portal, current roster development or incoming freshmen. Never doubt Tillman in any tournament matchup, especially with Wierman and the defense, but the offense isn't close to the level of the elite teams (even the non-elites like Michigan).

When Maryland was preseason #1, I wondered why? The reason was “they won last year”….by that logic, UCONN basketball is preseason number 1 next year despite all the losses. Maryland lost a lot of offensive experience and then had injuries. They will be back.

The defense still looked like the best projected unit in the country. And it's been in the Top 5. They've had some games where they were worse than expected but still been elite.

No one could have predicted McNaney blowing out his knee, if not for that they probably win at least 1 more game. Murphy has missed significant time, which when coupled with the Malever injury took them from losing their Top 4 scorers from last years team to 6 of the Top 7 for long stretches. Wierman has also been banged up all year, not saying that's cost them a game but played a part.

The offense has been way worse than expected. But also if anyone thought Maryland would have an offense on the level of like Marquette, then fair enough, amazing prediction, but I don't think anyone predicted that. Some people had Virginia #1 instead, and that was fine. But how low were they supposed to be ranked? They're still a Top 5-7 team in the country and two of the Top 7 teams were not even ranked in the preseason.

If "Maryland shouldn't have been preseason #1" but then you had them like #3, to me that seems like you're saying you also expected them to be better you just had them 1 or 2 spots lower. The difference between #1 and #3 is miniscule in any year that doesn't have a team like Maryland was last year or maybe a 2019 Penn State type team

You can’t just win a championship with defense. My only point was Maryland lost a lot of offensive production that never seems to matter in lacrosse but does in every other sport.

they're gonna try. the terps are exactly where i expected them to be this year so far. the $52,000 question was always going to be can u win in the shot clock era with defense. it's too small a sample size so far to rule it out.

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:24 pm

get it to x wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:55 pm

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:26 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:59 pm

sportsfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:25 pm Maybe Maryland needs to look at what their system is. The top teams all have dynamic offenses and Maryland is flat. The shooting has been bad all year and the offense doesn't play loose with any creativity. Probably too late for this year.

Say what? They've won 2 of the last 5 national championships plus (lost count) something like 9 of 11 final fours. The system is the best in the game. They have less talent this year than the 3 top teams, and still beat one of them and took the other to triple overtime. There's plenty of "loose" playing teams that won't be in the tournament this year; Terps will be there....again.

I think the original post is a troll

Yes. 4th post on this board. Dynamic players make dynamic offenses. Who is the Bernhardt or Wisnauskas on this team? Who is the motor? Geppert or Wierman are motor types, but who on offense?

Seriously, if you don't know who the motor on the offense is now, you haven't watched the games.

get it to x wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:47 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:24 pm

get it to x wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:55 pm

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:26 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:59 pm

sportsfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:25 pm Maybe Maryland needs to look at what their system is. The top teams all have dynamic offenses and Maryland is flat. The shooting has been bad all year and the offense doesn't play loose with any creativity. Probably too late for this year.

Say what? They've won 2 of the last 5 national championships plus (lost count) something like 9 of 11 final fours. The system is the best in the game. They have less talent this year than the 3 top teams, and still beat one of them and took the other to triple overtime. There's plenty of "loose" playing teams that won't be in the tournament this year; Terps will be there....again.

I think the original post is a troll

Yes. 4th post on this board. Dynamic players make dynamic offenses. Who is the Bernhardt or Wisnauskas on this team? Who is the motor? Geppert or Wierman are motor types, but who on offense?

Seriously, if you don't know who the motor on the offense is now, you haven't watched the games.

Erksa? Love to have him on my team just for his shooting accuracy. Close to a motor, but more like an Alpha, which is impressive for a freshman.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:02 pm they're gonna try. the terps are exactly where i expected them to be this year so far. the $52,000 question was always going to be can u win in the shot clock era with defense. it's too small a sample size so far to rule it out.

jrn19 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:05 am Ohio State is 5-8 and loses by like 10 goals every week. Maryland’s never had a losing season ever. 4 losses in the regular season right now is the most losses Maryland has had in the regular season under Tillman since 2012. I think it’s fair to say you thought Maryland would regress further than others or you didn’t have them preseason #1, but I think some people are going a little too far with “this season has been above my expectations.”

Nobody thought Maryland would be a .500 team. Nobody seriously thought Maryland would be outside the Top 10. Yes I’m aware of everything they’ve lost. This is also Maryland under John Tillman. They’ve made the Final Four 9 out of 11 times under him and one of the 2 that didn’t involved one of the worst missed calls in the history of the sport directly leading to a tying goal with like 1 min left in the game. We don’t need to over exaggerate the drop off expected or what they’ve done this year.

They look like a Quarterfinal team and considering what they lost and then injuries, I think a Quarterfinal performance is perfectly reasonable. Don’t think a First Round loss would be an underperformance at all. Making the Final Four with this team would probably be a slight over performance by Tills but I don’t even think it would be his biggest magic trick Final Four by any means. The 2018 team making the Final Four despite losing the Schmeisser winning defender, all their best shorties, their best LSM, their entire starting attack unit, and having like 5 scoring threats all season and being the #1 seed in the tournament was more of an over performance than this one was. The 2019 team making the Final Four if they held on against UVA despite having no elite All-American close defender, Puglise being best shortie as a true frosh, lacking LSM depth, 50% faceoff play, and having almost no scorers outside Bernhardt/Wisnauskas/Bubba/DeMaio would have been a bigger magic trick than this team making one. This team’s defensive unit and Wierman on faceoffs + Ruppel is still a very high floor