Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

[Typical Lax Dad]

What if the supporting sponsor family is on public assistance ?

They all are.

Nope. Just 70 %.

May as well round up

Not necessary. Just factor it into your cost/benefit analysis when formulating immigration reform.
This source says 55 %. (63 % if illegals included).
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... households

https://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=1389

Those are the 1997 regulations, implementing the 1996 law, that have not been enforced uniformly.
Those are the regulations which Trump is now announcing will be enforced.
Watch how the 9th Circuit blocks him because they have not been enforced to date.

Thanks: https://4thworldmovement.org/immigrants ... lfare/amp/

[old salt]

What if the supporting sponsor family is on public assistance ?

They all are.

Nope. Just 70 %.

May as well round up

Not necessary. Just factor it into your cost/benefit analysis when formulating immigration reform.
This source says 55 %. (63 % if illegals included).
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... households

https://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=1389

Those are the 1997 regulations, implementing the 1996 law, that have not been enforced uniformly.
Those are the regulations which Trump is now announcing will be enforced.
Watch how the 9th Circuit blocks him because they have not been enforced to date.

Thanks: https://4thworldmovement.org/immigrants ... lfare/amp/

That's for legal immigrants applying for visas.
It does not apply to the tens of thousands of asylum seekers, admitted en masse,
or DACA, Dreamer, TPS, refugee & other non-citizen households, if they're rolled into comp immigration reform.
All need to be factored into the cost/benefit analysis when enforcing or revising immigration policy.

[Typical Lax Dad]

What if the supporting sponsor family is on public assistance ?

They all are.

Nope. Just 70 %.

May as well round up

Not necessary. Just factor it into your cost/benefit analysis when formulating immigration reform.
This source says 55 %. (63 % if illegals included).
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... households

https://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=1389

Those are the 1997 regulations, implementing the 1996 law, that have not been enforced uniformly.
Those are the regulations which Trump is now announcing will be enforced.
Watch how the 9th Circuit blocks him because they have not been enforced to date.

Thanks: https://4thworldmovement.org/immigrants ... lfare/amp/

That's for legal immigrants applying for visas.
It does not apply to the tens of thousands of asylum seekers, admitted en masse,
or DACA, Dreamer, TPS, refugee & other non-citizen households, if they're rolled into comp immigration reform.
All need to be factored into the cost/benefit analysis when enforcing or revising immigration policy.

Oh well

[CU88]

What if the supporting sponsor family is on public assistance ?

They all are.

Nope. Just 70 %.

May as well round up

I have always considered the Military part of the public dole. Cost benefit has always shown the trillions we spend is a 99% waste.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... ation.html

[CU88]

Deplorables have to be told to treat people with common decency by the Courts...

Appeals Court Rules Detained Migrant Children Should Get Soap, Sleep, Clean Water.

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/15/75163491 ... EdMFTeigDI

[youthathletics]

Wonder why that was not in the original Flores paperwork....I wonder who was POTUS in 1997.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Wonder why that was not in the original Flores paperwork....I wonder who was POTUS in 1997.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... s-debunked

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2012/7/4 ... an-Bigotry

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Pioneer_Fund

No matter how folks try to dress it up, it is what it is.

https://www.splcenter.org/20090131/nati ... ntolerance

[Trinity]

U.S. Atty says enough fentanyl to kill 600,000 ppl was seized from home of retired W. Va. county sheriff & son, who were indicted on drug trafficking charges.

Build that wall?

[youthathletics]

Do you know where it came from? Often, what is NOT in the story matters.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Do you know where it came from? Often, what is NOT in the story matters.

The manufacturer is forcing those two to sell?

[youthathletics]

Do you know where it came from? Often, what is NOT in the story matters.

The manufacturer is forcing those two to sell?

You missed the point, his post was more about the wall, which is why I asked how they obtained it.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Do you know where it came from? Often, what is NOT in the story matters.

The manufacturer is forcing those two to sell?

You missed the point, his post was more about the wall, which is why I asked how they obtained it.

So the implication is that we have fentanyl labs in this country that is not being reported on by MSM and a wall may not have an impact (it would be negligible at best). Is that the line of thinking? His post was about these two law enforcement criminals and the wall is designed to keep criminals and drug dealers out... that was my take on his post. The wall was a throwaway statement...tongue in cheek...but I can be wrong.

[youthathletics]

Do you know where it came from? Often, what is NOT in the story matters.

The manufacturer is forcing those two to sell?

You missed the point, his post was more about the wall, which is why I asked how they obtained it.

So the implication is that we have fentanyl labs in this country that is not being reported on by MSM and a wall may not have an impact (it would be negligible at best). Is that the line of thinking? His post was about these two law enforcement criminals and the wall is designed to keep criminals and drug dealers out... that was my take on his post. The wall was a throwaway statement...tongue in cheek...but I can be wrong.

I thought his sarcastic point was the wall will keep out "drugs" like fentanyl.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Do you know where it came from? Often, what is NOT in the story matters.

The manufacturer is forcing those two to sell?

You missed the point, his post was more about the wall, which is why I asked how they obtained it.

So the implication is that we have fentanyl labs in this country that is not being reported on by MSM and a wall may not have an impact (it would be negligible at best). Is that the line of thinking? His post was about these two law enforcement criminals and the wall is designed to keep criminals and drug dealers out... that was my take on his post. The wall was a throwaway statement...tongue in cheek...but I can be wrong.

I thought his sarcastic point was the wall will keep out "drugs" like fentanyl.

There is a case to be made that we have Fentanyl labs here that the media isn’t covering?

[wahoomurf]

Eager to see how many of the FLHS will use this guy as the beau ideal of what a REAL AMERICAN is. The ideal opportunity for sharing could be as a guest speaker at his or her kids weekly "show and tell" event. Gotta teach the little one early on the importance of hatred. Remind them and practice the mellifluous chant of the wonderful, Trump-loving folks we heard in Charlottesville back in August 2017.To wit..."The Jews will not replace us". Hell if the POTUS found no fault with that little ditty, it's time for 6 and 7 olds to practice. Hopefully, they can sing it at the Christmas concerts.

https://www.facebook.com/BoycottAllThin ... =3&theater

[jhu72]

No problem with the Border Patrol.

[a fan]

If this doesn't tell you that Trump isn't the least bit serious about fixing immigration, nothing will....


Indictments of workers mount after the Mississippi immigration raids, but no employers have been charged


Meet the new boss....

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/us/missi ... index.html

[old salt]

If this doesn't tell you that Trump isn't the least bit serious about fixing immigration, nothing will....


Indictments of workers mount after the Mississippi immigration raids, but no employers have been charged


Meet the new boss....

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/us/missi ... index.html

OK Mr Instant Gratification.
The CNN article you posted explains why it is so difficult, & takes so long, to make these cases against the employers.
Prosecutors have to prove that the employers knowingly hired workers with fake id. One of the employers was even using E-verify.
How do you expect them to bring charges before they build a case based on evidence secured in the raid ?
That's what made the case that Ratcliffe lead against Pilgrim Poultry in 2007 so significant.
It took 2 years, but his office finally secured a non-pros agreement after he left office.

[MDlaxfan76]

If this doesn't tell you that Trump isn't the least bit serious about fixing immigration, nothing will....


Indictments of workers mount after the Mississippi immigration raids, but no employers have been charged


Meet the new boss....

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/us/missi ... index.html

OK Mr Instant Gratification.
The CNN article you posted explains why it is so difficult, & takes so long, to make these cases against the employers.
Prosecutors have to prove that the employers knowingly hired workers with fake id. One of the employers was even using E-verify.
How do you expect them to bring charges before they build a case based on evidence secured in the raid ?
That's what made the case that Ratcliffe lead against Pilgrim Poultry in 2007 so significant.
It took 2 years, but his office finally secured a non-pros agreement after he left office.

So, we raid a business, lock up a bunch of employees, including some who were legal apparently, but didn't actually know whether the employer was doing anything wrong before the raid?

Come on, can't we do a polite request for documentation of e-verify compliance, an inspection of worker papers, and if not forthcoming get a warrant and go in and look at the books without locking the employees up?

Or is that really not the point?

This ain't rocket science.

But then again, the whole thing is a farce. We should be making it much, much easier for green card, guest worker programs, path to citizenship, etc while at the same time doing tough screening for actual criminals and terrorists, etc and using e-verify to ensure compliance.

But, hey, that wouldn't make the white nationalist sorts happy would it? "We shall not be replaced".

[a fan]

OK Mr Instant Gratification.
The CNN article you posted explains why it is so difficult, & takes so long, to make these cases against the employers.

Instant gratification? So we're back to this, then? Trump hasn't been in office long enough to fix the system? I'm asking for too much too soon? His last year is going to be the big one where he gets stuff done?

Further, your defense of Trump----you know, the guy who is the head of the Republican F'ing party that ran government for two years----- when it comes to fixing immigration is: "a fan, you don't understand...the visa and immigration system is broken".

Yeah. I think I got that part. The reason folks voted for Trump and the Republican was so that he could get into office, and get off his *ss and FIX our immigration system...... remember?


SMH. Do you not realize that the "defense" you just gave me as to why Trump hasn't done his job is "well, a fan, the immigration system is broken. What do you expect Trump to do?"

Jeezus, you're a piece of work sometimes.


Here's the phrase you're looking for: "no, a fan, Trump didn't fix our immigration system and secure our borders as he promised he would. And I'm disappointed in him for not getting that done".

You're welcome. Totally reasonable criticism. No TDS needed.