Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[cradleandshoot]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

Good riddance. The south lost the war.

[runrussellrun]

Then just by the book, which I'd never heard of. Apparently was very popular in the 60s/70s.

buy the book?

Where? Books stores aren't open.

, say it, say it......ahhhhh AAAA MAZON

Try Commonwealth Books. It’s open.

No, it's not.

[Kismet]

Then just by the book, which I'd never heard of. Apparently was very popular in the 60s/70s.

I'd also recommend Ron Chernow's recent biography on Grant as well as THE PERSONAL MEMOIRS OF ULYSSES S. GRANT, an annotated new 2017 edition from Harvard University Press, edited by the historian John F. Marszalek, with David S. Nolen and Louie P. Gallo.

The recent documentary on Grant on History Channel was also quite good.

[cradleandshoot]

So some clarification... when does the Washington monument become part of the bullseye?

There are statues of Washington because he's the father of our nation, militarily and politically. If some amazing data fell from the sky to prove that Washington was actually an English spy who was trying to destroy our nation and didn't actually do all the positive things he's preported to have done, then he gets a bullseye. Otherwise, he's safely not a target.

Washington was a traitor to his King & country, he fought in defense of Virginia & the other rebel North American colonies.
We revere him because he was on our side... & he won.
The US Army officers who resigned their commissions to fight for the CSA in defense of their home states were no more traitors than Washington & fellow founding fathers. They just fought on the losing side.
Had the CSA gained independence, Davis, Lee, et al would be hailed as founding fathers,

Were it not for the failure of Picketts charge they may very well have won the war. Lee was a very smart tactician. I never understood such a stupid move. He was ever so close to having the English join his cause. As a New York Yankee I am glad he did. He spent the first 2 years if the war making the union army look like a bunch of morons.

Lee was a horrible tactician. Gettysburg proved it. Blaming that idiotic charge (relied to much on Stonewalls calvary ) on Pickett is stupid.

Unless, by tactician, you mean he knew how to dig holes and tunnels, like a rat, sitting behind redoubts. Sorry, any success Lee had was the incompetance of the NOrth. Or, rather, southern sympathizers like McClellan.

He is the terrible tactician that had the union army chasing their tails for the first 2 years of the war. Ever read about the first battle of Bull Run. The Union army retreated back to DC in a chaotic mess. What Lee never had was the one thing the Union army did have... unlimited resources to fight such a brutal war. You do understand that Lee had almost won over the English to fight on the Confederate side.

A few friends agree that Lee was a traitor. They also agree that he defended slavery, in the name of "states rights".

SO, why then, are they upset about the removal of Lee's traitors statues?


About your "chaising tails" comment. Like I said, lots of Northern traitors as well, masked as Generals. I mentioned one of them. McClellan. HE was in charge for........and...oopps....JUST so happened to run against Lincoln with what KIND of platform/agenda?

exactly

Interesting you bring Gen McClellan into the mix. I don't know if he was a traitor. I do know he was one hell of an organizer. He could organize the hell out of an army. He never knew when or how to fight, but he sure as hell was one great little organizer. Now Grant, he didn't give a damn about organizing. He just lined his men up and attacked relentlessly. It sure worked pretty well for him. some things are not all that complicated if you keep it simple.

[RedFromMI]

Then just by the book, which I'd never heard of. Apparently was very popular in the 60s/70s.

buy the book?

Where? Books stores aren't open.

, say it, say it......ahhhhh AAAA MAZON

Try Commonwealth Books. It’s open.

No, it's not.

It's available at barnesandnoble.com (The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick)

[cradleandshoot]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

Good riddance. The south lost the war.

Do they have NASCAR in Vietnam? I did not know that if they do.

[runrussellrun]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

you still haven't addressed the issue: What were the Buffalo copperpigs doing blocking/clearing the public streets? Please tell us what they were doing there in the first place. Practicing?

[RedFromMI]

And now Nancy Pelosi is asking that the roughly dozen Confederate statues in the US Capitol be removed from display...

[runrussellrun]

Then just by the book, which I'd never heard of. Apparently was very popular in the 60s/70s.

buy the book?

Where? Books stores aren't open.

, say it, say it......ahhhhh AAAA MAZON

Try Commonwealth Books. It’s open.

No, it's not.

It's available at barnesandnoble.com (The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick)

I like real humans......the satisfaction of walking into a store, and walking out with a purchase

Tough to tell, "how'd you meet your spouse"stories when ordering online. The problem isn't the young, it's the 45-65 year olds. Really, no? Try NOT using the internet for 5 days. Can you make it? exactly

DId I mention that you can meet people, when you actually see them? guess online porn is the same as the real

[cradleandshoot]

Then just by the book, which I'd never heard of. Apparently was very popular in the 60s/70s.

I'd also recommend Ron Chernow's recent biography on Grant as well as THE PERSONAL MEMOIRS OF ULYSSES S. GRANT, an annotated new 2017 edition from Harvard University Press, edited by the historian John F. Marszalek, with David S. Nolen and Louie P. Gallo.

The recent documentary on Grant on History Channel was also quite good.

Thanks for the tip. I have not read anything new about Grant since I was in HS. His reputation was a very gruff drunkard who rubbed everybody he met the wrong way. He was a damn fine battlefield commander.

[runrussellrun]

And now Nancy Pelosi is asking that the roughly dozen Confederate statues in the US Capitol be removed from display...

Fine with me, Nancy. But, just wondering how many times you've walked by them and never gave a turd.........that they were there. Same with AOC, for that matter.

TAATS is becoming a bunch of thespians now........ even with theatrical wardrobes. Don't some call that cultural approiation

[cradleandshoot]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

you still haven't addressed the issue: What were the Buffalo copperpigs doing blocking/clearing the public streets? Please tell us what they were doing there in the first place. Practicing?

What is the point? your starting to sink into Brooksie land with your newfound gibberish. Have a wonderful evening trips.

[runrussellrun]

Then just by the book, which I'd never heard of. Apparently was very popular in the 60s/70s.

I'd also recommend Ron Chernow's recent biography on Grant as well as THE PERSONAL MEMOIRS OF ULYSSES S. GRANT, an annotated new 2017 edition from Harvard University Press, edited by the historian John F. Marszalek, with David S. Nolen and Louie P. Gallo.

The recent documentary on Grant on History Channel was also quite good.

Thanks for the tip. I have not read anything new about Grant since I was in HS. His reputation was a very gruff drunkard who rubbed everybody he met the wrong way. He was a damn fine battlefield commander.

no one is surprised by this.....NO ONE

[runrussellrun]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

you still haven't addressed the issue: What were the Buffalo copperpigs doing blocking/clearing the public streets? Please tell us what they were doing there in the first place. Practicing?

What is the point? your starting to sink into Brooksie land with your newfound gibberish. Have a wonderful evening trips.

You are now being a coward. It's pretty obvious what I am asking.

What were the police doing their, in riot gear, in the first place?
You swore an oath.....to defend this kind of action by the police? Public sidewalk. What authority do they have from blocking me. Showing up like that ?

Why were the cops there in the first place. Simple question. The fact that you won't answer is lame......

[cradleandshoot]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

you still haven't addressed the issue: What were the Buffalo copperpigs doing blocking/clearing the public streets? Please tell us what they were doing there in the first place. Practicing?

What is the point? your starting to sink into Brooksie land with your newfound gibberish. Have a wonderful evening trips.

You are now being a coward. It's pretty obvious what I am asking.

What were the police doing their, in riot gear, in the first place?
You swore an oath.....to defend this kind of action by the police? Public sidewalk. What authority do they have from blocking me. Showing up like that ?

Why were the cops there in the first place. Simple question. The fact that you won't answer is lame......

Clearly they were there to hunt down some old guy, push him to the ground and crack his skull open. You are rapidly becoming the new Brooksie. You have a new found love of all you can eat buffets?

[runrussellrun]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

you still haven't addressed the issue: What were the Buffalo copperpigs doing blocking/clearing the public streets? Please tell us what they were doing there in the first place. Practicing?

What is the point? your starting to sink into Brooksie land with your newfound gibberish. Have a wonderful evening trips.

You are now being a coward. It's pretty obvious what I am asking.

What were the police doing their, in riot gear, in the first place?
You swore an oath.....to defend this kind of action by the police? Public sidewalk. What authority do they have from blocking me. Showing up like that ?

Why were the cops there in the first place. Simple question. The fact that you won't answer is lame......

Clearly they were there to hunt down some old guy, push him to the ground and crack his skull open. You are rapidly becoming the new Brooksie. You have a new found love of all you can eat buffets?

Coward. Why don't you answer the question. A disgrace to the uniform and the oath. Why were the cops in riot gear in the first place? Blocking MY public sidewalk.

Brooksie answers just like you, lame.

[runrussellrun]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

you still haven't addressed the issue: What were the Buffalo copperpigs doing blocking/clearing the public streets? Please tell us what they were doing there in the first place. Practicing?

What is the point? your starting to sink into Brooksie land with your newfound gibberish. Have a wonderful evening trips.

You are now being a coward. It's pretty obvious what I am asking.

What were the police doing their, in riot gear, in the first place?
You swore an oath.....to defend this kind of action by the police? Public sidewalk. What authority do they have from blocking me. Showing up like that ?

Why were the cops there in the first place. Simple question. The fact that you won't answer is lame......

Clearly they were there to hunt down some old guy, push him to the ground and crack his skull open. You are rapidly becoming the new Brooksie. You have a new found love of all you can eat buffets? :lol:

oh....I get it now.

Clearly, no poor eating choices are evah made while on booze type drugs. On average, even at our age, I would easily win this bet.

Stoners are in way better shape than drunks.

[cradleandshoot]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

you still haven't addressed the issue: What were the Buffalo copperpigs doing blocking/clearing the public streets? Please tell us what they were doing there in the first place. Practicing?

What is the point? your starting to sink into Brooksie land with your newfound gibberish. Have a wonderful evening trips.

You are now being a coward. It's pretty obvious what I am asking.

What were the police doing their, in riot gear, in the first place?
You swore an oath.....to defend this kind of action by the police? Public sidewalk. What authority do they have from blocking me. Showing up like that ?

Why were the cops there in the first place. Simple question. The fact that you won't answer is lame......

Clearly they were there to hunt down some old guy, push him to the ground and crack his skull open. You are rapidly becoming the new Brooksie. You have a new found love of all you can eat buffets?

Coward. Why don't you answer the question. A disgrace to the uniform and the oath. Why were the cops in riot gear in the first place? Blocking MY public sidewalk.

Brooksie answers just like you, lame.

Less crack and rehab would be a yuge help for you trips. Have a wonderful evening and try not to burn your eyebrows off.

[runrussellrun]

You can tell things have changed a bit - this just in: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from its races/properties.

What next? they gonna ban beer too? a smart move for NASCAR, things may really be starting to change.

you still haven't addressed the issue: What were the Buffalo copperpigs doing blocking/clearing the public streets? Please tell us what they were doing there in the first place. Practicing?

What is the point? your starting to sink into Brooksie land with your newfound gibberish. Have a wonderful evening trips.

You are now being a coward. It's pretty obvious what I am asking.

What were the police doing their, in riot gear, in the first place?
You swore an oath.....to defend this kind of action by the police? Public sidewalk. What authority do they have from blocking me. Showing up like that ?

Why were the cops there in the first place. Simple question. The fact that you won't answer is lame......

Clearly they were there to hunt down some old guy, push him to the ground and crack his skull open. You are rapidly becoming the new Brooksie. You have a new found love of all you can eat buffets?

Coward. Why don't you answer the question. A disgrace to the uniform and the oath. Why were the cops in riot gear in the first place? Blocking MY public sidewalk.

Brooksie answers just like you, lame.

Less crack and rehab would be a yuge help for you trips. Have a wonderful evening and try not to burn your eyebrows off.

mental miget ......certainly NOT missing the big D.

for doucebag.