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Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am
by Wheels
Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:26 am
by DU-fan
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
Clearly they are willing to waive that rule because Denver is one of the final 6 sites. Air Force and Utah have never been part of the discussion and they announced the 6 sites for mens lacrosse only. I think it comes down to seeding.

If Denver wins the Big East Tournament on Sat the West games are probably in Denver.
If Denver loses the Big East Tournament and are not seeded, Denver will not be a site.

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:03 pm
by 10stone5
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
And really, it would be just one tournament bound school
that would have any significant flying time,
one out of eighteen,

I believe it’ll just be a numbers game,
not enough western teams in the tournament to
justify flying to Denver for the first round.

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:54 pm
by 44WeWantMore
Can the Ivy League crown UPenn as their champion?

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:17 pm
by AreaLax
44WeWantMore wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 12:54 pm Can the Ivy League crown UPenn as their champion?
Think you have to play a set number of games

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:33 pm
by wgdsr
44WeWantMore wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 12:54 pm Can the Ivy League crown UPenn as their champion?
more likely happen if penn does it on their own, "penn claims ivy league crown". nothing's coming out of the league office. def not while student-of-the-year is off the table.

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:38 pm
by DALaxDad
Penn has yet to play a D-1 school. Brown, on the other hand, is 1-0 vs D-1 competition. Sounds like a champion to me!!!

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:55 pm
by 44WeWantMore
AQ!

Edit: Forget the AQ, they are number 4: http://www.laxbytes.com/OUTPUT/SERVER/men/rating01.php

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 1:33 pm
by JBFortunato
Anyone have info on ticket availability for championship games over the Memorial Day weekend at the Rent? I don’t think they are available yet, and can’t see any info on number of fans allowed.

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:08 pm
by AreaLax
JBFortunato wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:33 pm Anyone have info on ticket availability for championship games over the Memorial Day weekend at the Rent? I don’t think they are available yet, and can’t see any info on number of fans allowed.
Got email this week that exclusive pre-sale starts tomorrow

https://www.ncaa.com/championships/lacr ... +Fairfield

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:29 pm
by Ice1570
DU-fan wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:26 am
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
Clearly they are willing to waive that rule because Denver is one of the final 6 sites. Air Force and Utah have never been part of the discussion and they announced the 6 sites for mens lacrosse only. I think it comes down to seeding.

If Denver wins the Big East Tournament on Sat the West games are probably in Denver.
If Denver loses the Big East Tournament and are not seeded, Denver will not be a site.
Denver has already been selected as one of the four host sites for the first round along with UNC, UVA & Maryland

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:17 pm
by AreaLax
Ice1570 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:29 pm
DU-fan wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:26 am
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
Clearly they are willing to waive that rule because Denver is one of the final 6 sites. Air Force and Utah have never been part of the discussion and they announced the 6 sites for mens lacrosse only. I think it comes down to seeding.

If Denver wins the Big East Tournament on Sat the West games are probably in Denver.
If Denver loses the Big East Tournament and are not seeded, Denver will not be a site.
Denver has already been selected as one of the four host sites for the first round along with UNC, UVA & Maryland
Sounds like each site will have a game on Saturday and Sunday

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:41 pm
by DU-fan
AreaLax wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:17 pm
Ice1570 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:29 pm
DU-fan wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:26 am
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
Clearly they are willing to waive that rule because Denver is one of the final 6 sites. Air Force and Utah have never been part of the discussion and they announced the 6 sites for mens lacrosse only. I think it comes down to seeding.

If Denver wins the Big East Tournament on Sat the West games are probably in Denver.
If Denver loses the Big East Tournament and are not seeded, Denver will not be a site.
Denver has already been selected as one of the four host sites for the first round along with UNC, UVA & Maryland
Sounds like each site will have a game on Saturday and Sunday
Is there an article or official announcement confirming the four host sites for the first round as Denver, UNC, UVA & Maryland?

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:45 pm
by darkhaha
Ice1570 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:29 pm
DU-fan wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:26 am
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
Clearly they are willing to waive that rule because Denver is one of the final 6 sites. Air Force and Utah have never been part of the discussion and they announced the 6 sites for mens lacrosse only. I think it comes down to seeding.

If Denver wins the Big East Tournament on Sat the West games are probably in Denver.
If Denver loses the Big East Tournament and are not seeded, Denver will not be a site.
Denver has already been selected as one of the four host sites for the first round along with UNC, UVA & Maryland
Where are you getting this info? My understanding is that the first round sites won’t be announced until Selection Sunday. It seems unlikely to me that they would go with one western and three southern venues…

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 5:15 pm
by AreaLax
darkhaha wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:45 pm
Ice1570 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:29 pm
DU-fan wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:26 am
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
Clearly they are willing to waive that rule because Denver is one of the final 6 sites. Air Force and Utah have never been part of the discussion and they announced the 6 sites for mens lacrosse only. I think it comes down to seeding.

If Denver wins the Big East Tournament on Sat the West games are probably in Denver.
If Denver loses the Big East Tournament and are not seeded, Denver will not be a site.
Denver has already been selected as one of the four host sites for the first round along with UNC, UVA & Maryland
Where are you getting this info? My understanding is that the first round sites won’t be announced until Selection Sunday. It seems unlikely to me that they would go with one western and three southern venues…
Someone on the Virginia Sabre message board is sited a close source

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:16 am
by DU-fan
AreaLax wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 5:15 pm
darkhaha wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:45 pm
Ice1570 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:29 pm
DU-fan wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:26 am
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
Clearly they are willing to waive that rule because Denver is one of the final 6 sites. Air Force and Utah have never been part of the discussion and they announced the 6 sites for mens lacrosse only. I think it comes down to seeding.

If Denver wins the Big East Tournament on Sat the West games are probably in Denver.
If Denver loses the Big East Tournament and are not seeded, Denver will not be a site.
Denver has already been selected as one of the four host sites for the first round along with UNC, UVA & Maryland
Where are you getting this info? My understanding is that the first round sites won’t be announced until Selection Sunday. It seems unlikely to me that they would go with one western and three southern venues…
Someone on the Virginia Sabre message board is sited a close source
Hoosfan77

Joined: 00/00/0000 Posts: 41
Likes: 24
First round tourney sites...

...appear to be Klockner, UMD, UNC, Denver...

One game at Klockner on 15th one on 16th; unsure which day/time the Wahoos will get.

(Per a source close to the program, FWIW. Have not seen an official NCAA release. Seems legit.)
Maybe this is true, but I think people are jumping to conclusions. I have no doubt that Klockner will be a site. But, if Denver loses the Big East tournament, it makes little sense to go to Denver as the lower seeded team vs. Albany. If Denver wins the Big East tournament and is seeded the case is better.

Albany works well for Syracuse and Army. If they are seeded, it makes better sense.

Flights from Chicago to Denver for ND are pretty easy. Making the lower seed teams travel makes sense.

I don't believe this will be resolved until late Saturday and it will be announced this Sunday.

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:31 pm
by xxxxxxx
Making 3 teams fly to Denver in a pandemic is absurd.

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:52 pm
by BigTom4
DU-fan wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 10:16 am
AreaLax wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 5:15 pm
darkhaha wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:45 pm
Ice1570 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:29 pm
DU-fan wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:26 am
Wheels wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am Will be so interesting to see if the NCAA waives it's "2 flight" rule to give DU a first-round host site. Normally, the NCAA tries to reduce the # of teams requiring a flight for the first round to 2 or fewer. A Denver site would require 3 teams to fly (greater than 400 mile distance triggers flight).
Clearly they are willing to waive that rule because Denver is one of the final 6 sites. Air Force and Utah have never been part of the discussion and they announced the 6 sites for mens lacrosse only. I think it comes down to seeding.

If Denver wins the Big East Tournament on Sat the West games are probably in Denver.
If Denver loses the Big East Tournament and are not seeded, Denver will not be a site.
Denver has already been selected as one of the four host sites for the first round along with UNC, UVA & Maryland
Where are you getting this info? My understanding is that the first round sites won’t be announced until Selection Sunday. It seems unlikely to me that they would go with one western and three southern venues…
Someone on the Virginia Sabre message board is sited a close source
Hoosfan77

Joined: 00/00/0000 Posts: 41
Likes: 24
First round tourney sites...

...appear to be Klockner, UMD, UNC, Denver...

One game at Klockner on 15th one on 16th; unsure which day/time the Wahoos will get.

(Per a source close to the program, FWIW. Have not seen an official NCAA release. Seems legit.)
Maybe this is true, but I think people are jumping to conclusions. I have no doubt that Klockner will be a site. But, if Denver loses the Big East tournament, it makes little sense to go to Denver as the lower seeded team vs. Albany. If Denver wins the Big East tournament and is seeded the case is better.

Albany works well for Syracuse and Army. If they are seeded, it makes better sense.

Flights from Chicago to Denver for ND are pretty easy. Making the lower seed teams travel makes sense.

I don't believe this will be resolved until late Saturday and it will be announced this Sunday.
It's already been decided: UMd, Denver, UVA, and UNC will host regardless of this weekend's outcomes.

Weakness of the northern teams probably had something to do with this, with projections showing that their won't be many (if any) teams more than 400 miles north of College Park, having a first round site at Albany or Hofstra becomes less of a priority.

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 2:17 pm
by AreaLax
This Sunday, ESPNU will exclusively present the first-ever joint NCAA Division I Men's & Women's Lacrosse Championships Selection Special at 9 p.m. ET.

Re: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 3:14 pm
by darkhaha
BigTom4 wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 12:52 pm
It's already been decided: UMd, Denver, UVA, and UNC will host regardless of this weekend's outcomes.

Weakness of the northern teams probably had something to do with this, with projections showing that their won't be many (if any) teams more than 400 miles north of College Park, having a first round site at Albany or Hofstra becomes less of a priority.
Again, what is the source for this info? Until an official announcement is made, this is just a rumor…