Hunter Biden Corruption - Important and Meaningful issue

[a fan]

Preposterous. Sleazy. Legal.

The fact that it IS legal tells us a lot of what we need to know about the bill of goods we are sold by our representatives.

ggait - as one of our local counselors, can Ivanka currently do the same thing as a federal employee that Hunter Bidenn was able to do w/ CHina and Ukraine or would she have to wait until she was no longer a federal employee?

YA, she is involved in worse conflicts RIGHT NOW. You just don't care. Don't complain about Hunter without first complaining about Kush and Ivanka, and Trump himself.

You don't get to complain about one, and not the other.

[foreverlax]

ggait - as one of our local counselors, can Ivanka currently do the same thing as a federal employee that Hunter Bidenn was able to do w/ CHina and Ukraine or would she have to wait until she was no longer a federal employee?

As a current full-time federal employee, probably not. Although she could ask for an ethics waiver.

It obviously is much worse moonlighting on stuff like this as an actual full-time member of the administration. You do see people (like the recently resigned Volker) who have part-time or unpaid federal gigs and where it is understood that they will have other private gigs.

But it is sleazy (or worse) for anyone to be making money off of their present or past federal position and connections. But at least most influence-peddling lobbyists themselves did get elected or otherwise earn the federal jobs they got. Hunter and Ivanka only have the qualifications of lucky birth. And you have to give Ivanka and Jared extra sleaze points for actually taking WH jobs for which they have absolutely no experience or qualifications for. They should both have restricted themselves (as Junior and Eric do) to making sleazy money as private citizens.

Chris Collins began investing in Innate Immunotherapeutics in 2002. In August of 2016, he purchased 4 million more shares, making him the largest shareholder of the company and a seat on the board. He admitted to helping the company raise cash.

"In October 2017, the Office of Congressional Ethics (OCE) said they had "substantial reason" to believe that Collins had improperly used his public office to benefit Innate, and had forwarded nonpublic information to other investors.[93]

The OCE said Collins sent nonpublic information to investors about drug trials and that he visited the National Institutes of Health to discuss a drug's clinical trial, violating House ethics rules.[93]

The House Ethics Committee did not appoint a subcommittee to continue investigating Collins' case"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Col ... olitician)

"Members of Congress are not prohibited from serving on corporate boards as long as they don't receive any compensation for doing so."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/congress-m ... s-allowed/

[ardilla secreta]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

[cradleandshoot]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

[foreverlax]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

Kinda surprised you haven't railed on Collins...that is right up your alley of condemning corrupt NY politicians...although he does have the R by his name.

[cradleandshoot]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

Kinda surprised you haven't railed on Collins...that is right up your alley of condemning corrupt NY politicians...although he does have the R by his name.

Duhhh… hello... did you even read what I posted? Chris Collins can go to hell he is just another corrupt politician from NYS that knows no political boundaries. In NYS they come in 2 flavors... Democrat and Republican. If Sgt David Bellavia wants the job he can have it for as long as he wants. Even the FLP jackwagons that post here can't discredit Sgt Bellavia. The man has more integrity and courage than probably every individual that posts on this forum. The second best thing that could happen in NYS would be King Andy being perp walked out in handcuffs. The freaking lying crooked POS is no better than Collins. If they can get rid of Collins they should be able to get rid of King Andy as well.

[MDlaxfan76]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

Kinda surprised you haven't railed on Collins...that is right up your alley of condemning corrupt NY politicians...although he does have the R by his name.

Duhhh… hello... did you even read what I posted? Chris Collins can go to hell he is just another corrupt politician from NYS that knows no political boundaries. In NYS they come in 2 flavors... Democrat and Republican. If Sgt David Bellavia wants the job he can have it for as long as he wants. Even the FLP jackwagons that post here can't discredit Sgt Bellavia. The man has more integrity and courage than probably every individual that posts on this forum. The second best thing that could happen in NYS would be King Andy being perp walked out in handcuffs. The freaking lying crooked POS is no better than Collins. If they can get rid of Collins they should be able to get rid of King Andy as well.

Putting aside some of the hyperbole of your post, both positive and negative about various folks, Bellavia has a very compelling personal story of courage under fire from 2004. Other than that story and his upgraded Medal of Honor, most of us don't know him from Adam.

What explains his lack of success in a whole bunch of runs for political office?
Serious question.

[foreverlax]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

Kinda surprised you haven't railed on Collins...that is right up your alley of condemning corrupt NY politicians...although he does have the R by his name.

Duhhh… hello... did you even read what I posted? Chris Collins can go to hell he is just another corrupt politician from NYS that knows no political boundaries. In NYS they come in 2 flavors... Democrat and Republican. If Sgt David Bellavia wants the job he can have it for as long as he wants. Even the FLP jackwagons that post here can't discredit Sgt Bellavia. The man has more integrity and courage than probably every individual that posts on this forum. The second best thing that could happen in NYS would be King Andy being perp walked out in handcuffs. The freaking lying crooked POS is no better than Collins. If they can get rid of Collins they should be able to get rid of King Andy as well.

Missed you condemning Collins, but did read your thoughts on Bellavia.

Try and make your points without disparaging other posters, for no good reason.

[cradleandshoot]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

Kinda surprised you haven't railed on Collins...that is right up your alley of condemning corrupt NY politicians...although he does have the R by his name.

Duhhh… hello... did you even read what I posted? Chris Collins can go to hell he is just another corrupt politician from NYS that knows no political boundaries. In NYS they come in 2 flavors... Democrat and Republican. If Sgt David Bellavia wants the job he can have it for as long as he wants. Even the FLP jackwagons that post here can't discredit Sgt Bellavia. The man has more integrity and courage than probably every individual that posts on this forum. The second best thing that could happen in NYS would be King Andy being perp walked out in handcuffs. The freaking lying crooked POS is no better than Collins. If they can get rid of Collins they should be able to get rid of King Andy as well.

Missed you condemning Collins, but did read your thoughts on Bellavia.

Try and make your points without disparaging other posters, for no good reason.

My apologies. Chris Collins was always a part of that Republican good old boys network from western NY. The fact he turned out to be a crook never surprised me one bit. It would be refreshing to find a replacement for him that actually had ethics and morals. Those are character traits that are not found in very many politicians in NYS. Our representative is Joe Morelle. My wife went to HS with him. He is as FLP as they come but he has integrity and honesty. I may not like him much policy wise but you always know where he stands.

[MDlaxfan76]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

Kinda surprised you haven't railed on Collins...that is right up your alley of condemning corrupt NY politicians...although he does have the R by his name.

Duhhh… hello... did you even read what I posted? Chris Collins can go to hell he is just another corrupt politician from NYS that knows no political boundaries. In NYS they come in 2 flavors... Democrat and Republican. If Sgt David Bellavia wants the job he can have it for as long as he wants. Even the FLP jackwagons that post here can't discredit Sgt Bellavia. The man has more integrity and courage than probably every individual that posts on this forum. The second best thing that could happen in NYS would be King Andy being perp walked out in handcuffs. The freaking lying crooked POS is no better than Collins. If they can get rid of Collins they should be able to get rid of King Andy as well.

Missed you condemning Collins, but did read your thoughts on Bellavia.

Try and make your points without disparaging other posters, for no good reason.

My apologies. Chris Collins was always a part of that Republican good old boys network from western NY. The fact he turned out to be a crook never surprised me one bit. It would be refreshing to find a replacement for him that actually had ethics and morals. Those are character traits that are not found in very many politicians in NYS. Our representative is Joe Morelle. My wife went to HS with him. He is as FLP as they come but he has integrity and honesty. I may not like him much policy wise but you always know where he stands.

So...Morelle's not a "jackwagon"

Seriously, what explains Bellavia's failures to win, at least so far?
I've never heard him speak, what his policy ideas may be, etc.
He's taken a bunch of runs, but not won.

And yup, Collins was one of the worst.

BTW, as I happen to personally know a couple of folks who have been in public office who are people of strong integrity, the good news is that there really are some good folks doing what they believe is best for their constituents and for America.

We needn't assume the worst out of the chute.

[cradleandshoot]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

Kinda surprised you haven't railed on Collins...that is right up your alley of condemning corrupt NY politicians...although he does have the R by his name.

Duhhh… hello... did you even read what I posted? Chris Collins can go to hell he is just another corrupt politician from NYS that knows no political boundaries. In NYS they come in 2 flavors... Democrat and Republican. If Sgt David Bellavia wants the job he can have it for as long as he wants. Even the FLP jackwagons that post here can't discredit Sgt Bellavia. The man has more integrity and courage than probably every individual that posts on this forum. The second best thing that could happen in NYS would be King Andy being perp walked out in handcuffs. The freaking lying crooked POS is no better than Collins. If they can get rid of Collins they should be able to get rid of King Andy as well.

Missed you condemning Collins, but did read your thoughts on Bellavia.

Try and make your points without disparaging other posters, for no good reason.

My apologies. Chris Collins was always a part of that Republican good old boys network from western NY. The fact he turned out to be a crook never surprised me one bit. It would be refreshing to find a replacement for him that actually had ethics and morals. Those are character traits that are not found in very many politicians in NYS. Our representative is Joe Morelle. My wife went to HS with him. He is as FLP as they come but he has integrity and honesty. I may not like him much policy wise but you always know where he stands.

So...Morelle's not a "jackwagon"

Seriously, what explains Bellavia's failures to win, at least so far?
I've never heard him speak, what his policy ideas may be, etc.
He's taken a bunch of runs, but not won.

And yup, Collins was one of the worst.

BTW, as I happen to personally know a couple of folks who have been in public office who are people of strong integrity, the good news is that there really are some good folks doing what they believe is best for their constituents and for America.

We needn't assume the worst out of the chute.

No... Joe Morelle is not a jackwagon. My wife has know him for well over 40 years. He is a really far left wing sort of guy. He is the type of person that after picking your pocket will leave his business card in place of your wallet. He is honest about who and what he stands for. As for David Bellavia he has not been very popular with the Republican machine in western NY. For awhile he stopped running because he always could read the writing on the wall. After he was awarded the MOH the Republican perspective of him has changed. These elephants are not all that bright but they do know a potential star when they have one right in front of them. Mr Bellavia has been making the rounds at Republican fundraisers giving speeches and doing a lot of glad handing. IMO he wins Collins seat running away and can probably have it for has long as he wants it. I should have not implied that there were no folks of integrity in politics. The problem is that those individuals are few and far between and are over shadowed by the Chris Collins types that sadly are to prevalent in both parties, especially in NYS.

[MDlaxfan76]

Chris Collins, the first to put his support behind Trump and now a convicted felon, once served on a board. Now he will be served on a board.

Good news indeed. If the Republicans have any smarts they nominate David Bellavia to take his place. The MOH winner takes the seat in a runaway.

Kinda surprised you haven't railed on Collins...that is right up your alley of condemning corrupt NY politicians...although he does have the R by his name.

Duhhh… hello... did you even read what I posted? Chris Collins can go to hell he is just another corrupt politician from NYS that knows no political boundaries. In NYS they come in 2 flavors... Democrat and Republican. If Sgt David Bellavia wants the job he can have it for as long as he wants. Even the FLP jackwagons that post here can't discredit Sgt Bellavia. The man has more integrity and courage than probably every individual that posts on this forum. The second best thing that could happen in NYS would be King Andy being perp walked out in handcuffs. The freaking lying crooked POS is no better than Collins. If they can get rid of Collins they should be able to get rid of King Andy as well.

Missed you condemning Collins, but did read your thoughts on Bellavia.

Try and make your points without disparaging other posters, for no good reason.

My apologies. Chris Collins was always a part of that Republican good old boys network from western NY. The fact he turned out to be a crook never surprised me one bit. It would be refreshing to find a replacement for him that actually had ethics and morals. Those are character traits that are not found in very many politicians in NYS. Our representative is Joe Morelle. My wife went to HS with him. He is as FLP as they come but he has integrity and honesty. I may not like him much policy wise but you always know where he stands.

So...Morelle's not a "jackwagon"

Seriously, what explains Bellavia's failures to win, at least so far?
I've never heard him speak, what his policy ideas may be, etc.
He's taken a bunch of runs, but not won.

And yup, Collins was one of the worst.

BTW, as I happen to personally know a couple of folks who have been in public office who are people of strong integrity, the good news is that there really are some good folks doing what they believe is best for their constituents and for America.

We needn't assume the worst out of the chute.

No... Joe Morelle is not a jackwagon. My wife has know him for well over 40 years. He is a really far left wing sort of guy. He is the type of person that after picking your pocket will leave his business card in place of your wallet. He is honest about who and what he stands for. As for David Bellavia he has not been very popular with the Republican machine in western NY. For awhile he stopped running because he always could read the writing on the wall. After he was awarded the MOH the Republican perspective of him has changed. These elephants are not all that bright but they do know a potential star when they have one right in front of them. Mr Bellavia has been making the rounds at Republican fundraisers giving speeches and doing a lot of glad handing. IMO he wins Collins seat running away and can probably have it for has long as he wants it. I should have not implied that there were no folks of integrity in politics. The problem is that those individuals are few and far between and are over shadowed by the Chris Collins types that sadly are to prevalent in both parties, especially in NYS.

You know your neck of the world far better than I.

I think we need more folks of integrity in public service, for sure.
Of course, same is true for business, academia, clergy, etc.

In all realms, folks succumb to various temptations.
I just don't think we need to assume the worst of most folks as the starting point.

Nor do we need to equate various failings of character with others.
We can, and should, differentiate between those who are swayed by their sense that the power they achieve is 'good' and those who are truly and thoroughly corrupt and dishonest to their core.

Likewise, we should reward with our support those who step up to confront dishonesty and corruption, especially when it may well be against their personal interest to do so.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

I just don't think we need to assume the worst of most folks as the starting point.

that's an interesting point- though, what do you think of the argument that so many of our elected officials are corrupted (by self interest, money, opportunity, etc.) that they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt?

asked another way- exactly how hard is it to find a model official that has acted with integrity in this era?

i think no one is immune to the forces of special interest these days; which tells me we have a systemic issue.

[frmanfan]

Not really related except the discussion is about upstate NY. Was up there this past week to get a few days vacation. Driving around I couldn't help but see the difference in the farms in NY compared to here in western PA. Where the fracking is going on here in PA the farms have updated and upgraded and are well kept. In NY they it appears they are struggling to make ends meet and keep the barns whole. Ironic that the Marcellus and Utica shale formations were named after the upstate NY towns, but the people can't benefit from it. Talk about having no political clout in NY.

[MDlaxfan76]

I just don't think we need to assume the worst of most folks as the starting point.

that's an interesting point- though, what do you think of the argument that so many of our elected officials are corrupted (by self interest, money, opportunity, etc.) that they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt?

asked another way- exactly how hard is it to find a model official that has acted with integrity in this era?

i think no one is immune to the forces of special interest these days; which tells me we have a systemic issue.

I agree as to systemic issues.

I simply would suggest that "self interest, money, opportunity" are of large influence in most all areas of our society, frequently causing lapses in "integrity". I'm not so sure I'd be willing to sign on to a notion that "elected officials" are somehow worse than other segments.

Which doesn't mean that systemic factors that exacerbate this should not be addressed. Most notably the scale of capital necessary to run a competitive campaign places enormous pressure on candidates to be in constant money raising mode. Very hard to turn off that filter when looking at public interest choices one needs to make. Who do you benefit? The true public good or those who you can most easily attract $ from?

Likewise, gerrymandering places enormous incentives to take oppositional positions rather than finding effective compromises. Back to money, it's easier to get financial support in stark opposition than as a someone who finds compromise solutions.

But actual breaches of "integrity", real wrongdoing by politicians, is probably not much more prevalent than with, say, business folks or lawyers. Business decisions get made all the time on the basis of how profitable they will be in the short term, the cycle in which the business person is be evaluated and bonused. Often not to the long term benefit of the company, and sometimes to the detriment of other stakeholders, whether employees or customers or the general public. Sometimes in breach of the law.

Does this mean that all business people are "corrupted", don't "deserve the benefit of the doubt"?

Folks need to be held accountable when they transgress. In some cases this means going to jail. Sometimes it means fines and civil lawsuits. Often it means losing their jobs, their licenses, etc. When we don't hold transgressors accountable, we encourage more of the same.

The question is whether "voting" is sufficient when there are such transgressions. In Chris Collins case, I'd say no. He broke the law. The least that could be done was immediate loss of his job, not another election.

I believe Trump has broken the law...and we know it. Easy one is the campaign violation with Stormy Daniels. Emoluments sure look obvious as well. And now the campaign finance violation of asking for a foreign government to provide something of value to a campaign...multiple times, both privately and now out in the open. And certainly obstruction. I suspect we'll find out much more in due course.

But more importantly he has abused his power of office, broken his oath to the Constitution.

Is voting him out of office a year+ from now really sufficient?
I don't think so.

[MDlaxfan76]

Not really related except the discussion is about upstate NY. Was up there this past week to get a few days vacation. Driving around I couldn't help but see the difference in the farms in NY compared to here in western PA. Where the fracking is going on here in PA the farms have updated and upgraded and are well kept. In NY they it appears they are struggling to make ends meet and keep the barns whole. Ironic that the Marcellus and Utica shale formations were named after the upstate NY towns, but the people can't benefit from it. Talk about having no political clout in NY.

Are you suggesting that the fracking dollars are flowing to the PA farmers who are keeping the farms in good shape?

How does that work? (assuming it's not actually on their land).

Watched 60 Minutes last night; interesting segment on farmers, particularly interesting re Fortune 500 Land O'Lakes, which is actually a coop owned by 4,000 farmers. It's as much a technology company as butter and other food products company. Very cool applications of getting every last speck of production out of the land.

The trade wars are crushing them, and weather has been awful as well. About 50% of the Land O'Lakes farmers are losing serious money, and are being kept afloat from their shares in the company/distributions. Other farmers faring worse.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

I just don't think we need to assume the worst of most folks as the starting point.

that's an interesting point- though, what do you think of the argument that so many of our elected officials are corrupted (by self interest, money, opportunity, etc.) that they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt?

asked another way- exactly how hard is it to find a model official that has acted with integrity in this era?

i think no one is immune to the forces of special interest these days; which tells me we have a systemic issue.

I agree as to systemic issues.

I simply would suggest that "self interest, money, opportunity" are of large influence in most all areas of our society, frequently causing lapses in "integrity". I'm not so sure I'd be willing to sign on to a notion that "elected officials" are somehow worse than other segments.

Which doesn't mean that systemic factors that exacerbate this should not be addressed. Most notably the scale of capital necessary to run a competitive campaign places enormous pressure on candidates to be in constant money raising mode. Very hard to turn off that filter when looking at public interest choices one needs to make. Who do you benefit? The true public good or those who you can most easily attract $ from?

Likewise, gerrymandering places enormous incentives to take oppositional positions rather than finding effective compromises. Back to money, it's easier to get financial support in stark opposition than as a someone who finds compromise solutions.

But actual breaches of "integrity", real wrongdoing by politicians, is probably not much more prevalent than with, say, business folks or lawyers. Business decisions get made all the time on the basis of how profitable they will be in the short term, the cycle in which the business person is be evaluated and bonused. Often not to the long term benefit of the company, and sometimes to the detriment of other stakeholders, whether employees or customers or the general public. Sometimes in breach of the law.

Does this mean that all business people are "corrupted", don't "deserve the benefit of the doubt"?

Folks need to be held accountable when they transgress. In some cases this means going to jail. Sometimes it means fines and civil lawsuits. Often it means losing their jobs, their licenses, etc. When we don't hold transgressors accountable, we encourage more of the same.

The question is whether "voting" is sufficient when there are such transgressions. In Chris Collins case, I'd say no. He broke the law. The least that could be done was immediate loss of his job, not another election.

I believe Trump has broken the law...and we know it. Easy one is the campaign violation with Stormy Daniels. Emoluments sure look obvious as well. And now the campaign finance violation of asking for a foreign government to provide something of value to a campaign...multiple times, both privately and now out in the open. And certainly obstruction. I suspect we'll find out much more in due course.

But more importantly he has abused his power of office, broken his oath to the Constitution.

Is voting him out of office a year+ from now really sufficient?
I don't think so.

yeah but other segments arent entrusted with the same responsibility to the public that government is.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Is Donald trying to root out this corruption?

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Prime ... 6_c_iPsUof

[MDlaxfan76]

I just don't think we need to assume the worst of most folks as the starting point.

that's an interesting point- though, what do you think of the argument that so many of our elected officials are corrupted (by self interest, money, opportunity, etc.) that they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt?

asked another way- exactly how hard is it to find a model official that has acted with integrity in this era?

i think no one is immune to the forces of special interest these days; which tells me we have a systemic issue.

I agree as to systemic issues.

I simply would suggest that "self interest, money, opportunity" are of large influence in most all areas of our society, frequently causing lapses in "integrity". I'm not so sure I'd be willing to sign on to a notion that "elected officials" are somehow worse than other segments.

Which doesn't mean that systemic factors that exacerbate this should not be addressed. Most notably the scale of capital necessary to run a competitive campaign places enormous pressure on candidates to be in constant money raising mode. Very hard to turn off that filter when looking at public interest choices one needs to make. Who do you benefit? The true public good or those who you can most easily attract $ from?

Likewise, gerrymandering places enormous incentives to take oppositional positions rather than finding effective compromises. Back to money, it's easier to get financial support in stark opposition than as a someone who finds compromise solutions.

But actual breaches of "integrity", real wrongdoing by politicians, is probably not much more prevalent than with, say, business folks or lawyers. Business decisions get made all the time on the basis of how profitable they will be in the short term, the cycle in which the business person is be evaluated and bonused. Often not to the long term benefit of the company, and sometimes to the detriment of other stakeholders, whether employees or customers or the general public. Sometimes in breach of the law.

Does this mean that all business people are "corrupted", don't "deserve the benefit of the doubt"?

Folks need to be held accountable when they transgress. In some cases this means going to jail. Sometimes it means fines and civil lawsuits. Often it means losing their jobs, their licenses, etc. When we don't hold transgressors accountable, we encourage more of the same.

The question is whether "voting" is sufficient when there are such transgressions. In Chris Collins case, I'd say no. He broke the law. The least that could be done was immediate loss of his job, not another election.

I believe Trump has broken the law...and we know it. Easy one is the campaign violation with Stormy Daniels. Emoluments sure look obvious as well. And now the campaign finance violation of asking for a foreign government to provide something of value to a campaign...multiple times, both privately and now out in the open. And certainly obstruction. I suspect we'll find out much more in due course.

But more importantly he has abused his power of office, broken his oath to the Constitution.

Is voting him out of office a year+ from now really sufficient?
I don't think so.

yeah but other segments arent entrusted with the same responsibility to the public that government is.

I agree, which is why we need need to root out issues and hold folks accountable.
It's why we need whistleblowers.
It's why we need the 4th estate to investigate and expose corruption to public view.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

yes.