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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:14 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:01 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:47 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:08 am
Bart wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:59 am
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:37 am
Bart wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:32 am
RedFromMI wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:38 pm Maybe someone should explain to PB that to get to herd immunity in Florida would mean upping the infection rates big time...

They are NOWHERE close to herd immunity (60% to 80% necessary). They are not close to passing New York, which might be at 25% or so now...
You are assuming there is no cross reactivity in Memory T cells from previous corona virus infections. A assumption that is currently being challenged with data that suggests otherwise.
But that is not going to lower "herd immunity" to well under 20%...

Nowhere close.
You you may be right. But it may lower it well below the 60-80% threshold everyone throw's around as a 100% done deal. You do not know, neither do I for that matter.


+1
Could very well be below 20% https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/ ... 81697?s=21
How often does a plumber do your job?
Depends if a banker fills the tank full of poo.
Like I thought. On your projects, you are not doing the plumber’s job and he isn’t doing yours.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:15 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:56 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:57 pm
wgdsr wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:54 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:28 pm
wgdsr wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:25 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:55 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:48 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:30 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:58 pm 200,000 = "virtually nobody"...
The POTUS should never refer to the recent death of 200K americans as virtually nobody...
that's not what he said.

he says plenty that can garner ire, why does anyone need to spin?
That's exactly what he said. i can also post the video if you'd like. https://www.vox.com/2020/9/22/21450772/ ... lly-nobody
Those MAGA masks are drip! I wonder what makes those deplorables think a mask is helpful.
i wanna know the process that got that small background group to wear them. now that's a story!
You would have to ask this this guy!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... nix-rally/
i might be running out of wapo articles for the month. is it worth it? the headline says yes!
Absolutely! The guy may have been a cannibal.
did i miss the cannibal part? the rest was gold.

even beats the stick in the eye. anybody that can do that isn't getting pinched for a dull machete in the glades.
I may have him confused with another guy. Do you know who Black Man’s running buddy was?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:04 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:12 am
by old salt
wgdsr wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:29 pm ...erroneously posted guidance is what's going to ding the cdc's credibility. or maybe ruin it! you couldn't make this stuff up.
nope, just more credibility lost as the Trump political folks have their hands into it. Again and again...which actually does matter.
What evidence do you have that Trump had anything to do with it ? Adm Giror told the Senate "it was widely misinterpreted, it was widely misrepresented." He told FNC, " ...there was no a reversal in guidelines. It was misinterpreted, it was misrepresented. We saw all kinds of ill activity stemming from that. Dr Redfeld clarified it the next day. As it kept getting misrepresented & it started propagating, he decided to update the guidance & clarify it even more. There's nothing more than that. "

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:37 am
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:12 am
wgdsr wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:29 pm ...erroneously posted guidance is what's going to ding the cdc's credibility. or maybe ruin it! you couldn't make this stuff up.
nope, just more credibility lost as the Trump political folks have their hands into it. Again and again...which actually does matter.
What evidence do you have that Trump had anything to do with it ? Adm Giror told the Senate "it was widely misinterpreted, it was widely misrepresented." He told FNC, " ...there was no a reversal in guidelines. It was misinterpreted, it was misrepresented. We saw all kinds of ill activity stemming from that. Dr Redfeld clarified it the next day. As it kept getting misrepresented & it started propagating, he decided to update the guidance & clarify it even more. There's nothing more than that. "
First, my quote is the second not the first.

Second, we have a series of instances when what was produced by the scientists was altered by the HHS communications group, post Caputo's coming in on behalf of Trump..

This one is just one. In this case, they actually removed clear advice the scientists had established and replaced it with absolutely dumb advice. The blow back came from both within the CDC and from the media which of course noticed, perhaps because scientists alerted them. the last being merely speculative. The language was stark...if you've been in contact with someone positive for over 15 minutes, but don't have symptoms you don't need to be tested. That was exactly the opposite of the prior advice. And they had to reverse it. Coincidence that the President was calling for less testing? That more testing means more cases...and more deaths??? Yup, that's what Trump kept saying...

Stories have been rolling out about the scientists being very PO'd about what was happening. And Caputo then had his meltdown and resigned, or whatever one wants to call his leaving that role.

The Smithfield case last spring, now known to be exactly as I describe, is particularly obvious. This is NOT the scientists, this is those dealing with the political pressures from the White House trying to tiptoe for them.

And now we have the President saying that the White House has to approve the FDA's requirements for approval of an EO, thinks that having the standard two months of data for side effects to emerge "sounds like politics'...

They're saying it out loud, salty.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:45 am
by kramerica.inc
Cases no longer matter. Cold. And flu season is upon us. Too much asymptomatic transmission.

Hospitalizations are what matter.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:03 am
by SCLaxAttack
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:45 am Cases no longer matter. Cold. And flu season is upon us. Too much asymptomatic transmission.

Hospitalizations are what matter.
Are you saying die at home and we’ll catch up with you at the autopsy?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:11 am
by kramerica.inc
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:03 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:45 am Cases no longer matter. Cold. And flu season is upon us. Too much asymptomatic transmission.

Hospitalizations are what matter.
Are you saying die at home and we’ll catch up with you at the autopsy?
No. I'm saying in additiono to deaths, start paying more attention to hositalizations, not necessarily simple case numbers. Testing guidelines continue to be all messed up. Some states are still testing all. Others are isolating people. Look at the cases with hospitalizations. It should give us a better idea of the severity of outbreak in certain areas.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:21 am
by runrussellrun
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:58 pm 200,000 = "virtually nobody"...
any thinking person understands the context of what you're referring too......and he was referring to the demographic. The young. That, virtually nobody under the age of 25, the age that is in play here, the context, is dying. What part of that is wrong? Come on, bash tRump on his increased deficits. Killing machine industry inequiptable oligarchy monoply increases. The rich getting richer. Instead, your intellect invites this useless wordsalad into your once, clear thinking mind.


THE YOUNG. Which, for some reason, are being blamed for all the mythical "spikes". It IS as if most of this demographic, that I know, aren't already losing their minds with guilt, hoping not getting grandma sick.......your tribe is actually BLAMING them for the lie of increased deaths.......please, tell us , again, why positive cases matter. at all. They don't. Only WHO has died. Enough of this insanity. Grandma met grandpa when it was Pine Mattress (manor) night over in Harvard square. Or woodstock.

Where is my offsprings woodstock?

think about it

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:24 am
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:21 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:58 pm 200,000 = "virtually nobody"...
any thinking person understands the context of what you're referring too......and he was referring to the demographic. The young. That, virtually nobody under the age of 25, the age that is in play here, the context, is dying. What part of that is wrong? Come on, bash tRump on his increased deficits. Killing machine industry inequiptable oligarchy monoply increases. The rich getting richer. Instead, your intellect invites this useless wordsalad into your once, clear thinking mind.


THE YOUNG. Which, for some reason, are being blamed for all the mythical "spikes". It IS as if most of this demographic, that I know, aren't already losing their minds with guilt, hoping not getting grandma sick.......your tribe is actually BLAMING them for the lie of increased deaths.......please, tell us , again, why positive cases matter. at all. They don't. Only WHO has died. Enough of this insanity. Grandma met grandpa when it was Pine Mattress (manor) night over in Harvard square. Or woodstock.

Where is my offsprings woodstock?

think about it
If your are over 25, you are nobody?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:27 am
by runrussellrun
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:24 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:21 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:58 pm 200,000 = "virtually nobody"...
any thinking person understands the context of what you're referring too......and he was referring to the demographic. The young. That, virtually nobody under the age of 25, the age that is in play here, the context, is dying. What part of that is wrong? Come on, bash tRump on his increased deficits. Killing machine industry inequiptable oligarchy monoply increases. The rich getting richer. Instead, your intellect invites this useless wordsalad into your once, clear thinking mind.


THE YOUNG. Which, for some reason, are being blamed for all the mythical "spikes". It IS as if most of this demographic, that I know, aren't already losing their minds with guilt, hoping not getting grandma sick.......your tribe is actually BLAMING them for the lie of increased deaths.......please, tell us , again, why positive cases matter. at all. They don't. Only WHO has died. Enough of this insanity. Grandma met grandpa when it was Pine Mattress (manor) night over in Harvard square. Or woodstock.

Where is my offsprings woodstock?

think about it
If your are over 25, you are nobody?
You really can't be this stupid.....or a troll

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:29 am
by runrussellrun
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:03 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:45 am Cases no longer matter. Cold. And flu season is upon us. Too much asymptomatic transmission.

Hospitalizations are what matter.
Are you saying die at home and we’ll catch up with you at the autopsy?
It IS really that simple, yes.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:39 am
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:27 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:24 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:21 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:58 pm 200,000 = "virtually nobody"...
any thinking person understands the context of what you're referring too......and he was referring to the demographic. The young. That, virtually nobody under the age of 25, the age that is in play here, the context, is dying. What part of that is wrong? Come on, bash tRump on his increased deficits. Killing machine industry inequiptable oligarchy monoply increases. The rich getting richer. Instead, your intellect invites this useless wordsalad into your once, clear thinking mind.


THE YOUNG. Which, for some reason, are being blamed for all the mythical "spikes". It IS as if most of this demographic, that I know, aren't already losing their minds with guilt, hoping not getting grandma sick.......your tribe is actually BLAMING them for the lie of increased deaths.......please, tell us , again, why positive cases matter. at all. They don't. Only WHO has died. Enough of this insanity. Grandma met grandpa when it was Pine Mattress (manor) night over in Harvard square. Or woodstock.

Where is my offsprings woodstock?

think about it
If your are over 25, you are nobody?
You really can't be this stupid.....or a troll
No.... you can be and yes you are.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:43 am
by runrussellrun
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:39 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:27 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:24 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:21 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:58 pm 200,000 = "virtually nobody"...
any thinking person understands the context of what you're referring too......and he was referring to the demographic. The young. That, virtually nobody under the age of 25, the age that is in play here, the context, is dying. What part of that is wrong? Come on, bash tRump on his increased deficits. Killing machine industry inequiptable oligarchy monoply increases. The rich getting richer. Instead, your intellect invites this useless wordsalad into your once, clear thinking mind.


THE YOUNG. Which, for some reason, are being blamed for all the mythical "spikes". It IS as if most of this demographic, that I know, aren't already losing their minds with guilt, hoping not getting grandma sick.......your tribe is actually BLAMING them for the lie of increased deaths.......please, tell us , again, why positive cases matter. at all. They don't. Only WHO has died. Enough of this insanity. Grandma met grandpa when it was Pine Mattress (manor) night over in Harvard square. Or woodstock.

Where is my offsprings woodstock?

think about it
If your are over 25, you are nobody?
You really can't be this stupid.....or a troll
No.... you can be and yes you are.
Here, this might help:

Re: Is a 2021 season going to happen?
Post by steel_hop » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:34 am

FMUBart wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:09 am
More testing = more cases... Are hospitalizations going up?
Exactly. The actions of pushing games and the like is purely about minimizing potential litigation and appearances. The reports so far have been over 45K kids have been confirmed with COVID...there have been exactly 2 hospitalizations and no deaths.

context matters in big boy world. High, I'm earth, have we met.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:50 am
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:43 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:39 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:27 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:24 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:21 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:58 pm 200,000 = "virtually nobody"...
any thinking person understands the context of what you're referring too......and he was referring to the demographic. The young. That, virtually nobody under the age of 25, the age that is in play here, the context, is dying. What part of that is wrong? Come on, bash tRump on his increased deficits. Killing machine industry inequiptable oligarchy monoply increases. The rich getting richer. Instead, your intellect invites this useless wordsalad into your once, clear thinking mind.


THE YOUNG. Which, for some reason, are being blamed for all the mythical "spikes". It IS as if most of this demographic, that I know, aren't already losing their minds with guilt, hoping not getting grandma sick.......your tribe is actually BLAMING them for the lie of increased deaths.......please, tell us , again, why positive cases matter. at all. They don't. Only WHO has died. Enough of this insanity. Grandma met grandpa when it was Pine Mattress (manor) night over in Harvard square. Or woodstock.

Where is my offsprings woodstock?

think about it
If your are over 25, you are nobody?
You really can't be this stupid.....or a troll
No.... you can be and yes you are.
Here, this might help:

Re: Is a 2021 season going to happen?
Post by steel_hop » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:34 am

FMUBart wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:09 am
More testing = more cases... Are hospitalizations going up?
Exactly. The actions of pushing games and the like is purely about minimizing potential litigation and appearances. The reports so far have been over 45K kids have been confirmed with COVID...there have been exactly 2 hospitalizations and no deaths.

context matters in big boy world. High, I'm earth, have we met.
Did you see the “question mark”? In some areas the answer is YES. “Not many young people die”.... You are a genius. I wonder why nobody realizes that?

When you are sitting back at home house bound you might realize why.....let the kids party.... my daughter is in college, I am not worried about her dying from Covid sport.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:57 am
by runrussellrun
...and yet, you don't defend her, or her demographic. Just feed the fear porn monster. Interesting principles.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:06 am
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:57 am ...and yet, you don't defend her, or her demographic. Just feed the fear porn monster. Interesting principles.
You are one of those “I will buy the beer for the kids” kind of guys. This looks promising

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:28 am
by runrussellrun
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:06 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:57 am ...and yet, you don't defend her, or her demographic. Just feed the fear porn monster. Interesting principles.
You are one of those “I will buy the beer for the kids” kind of guys. This looks promising

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
What age do you consider a "kid"?

Old enough to put on a uniform, old enough for a beer. Don't you think.

I hate drinking and drivers who do it. More hate for texters. You have so much pretend love, your biting pretend sarcasm betrays and reveals the real, angry you.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:29 am
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:28 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:06 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:57 am ...and yet, you don't defend her, or her demographic. Just feed the fear porn monster. Interesting principles.
You are one of those “I will buy the beer for the kids” kind of guys. This looks promising

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
What age do you consider a "kid"?

Old enough to put on a uniform, old enough for a beer. Don't you think.

I hate drinking and drivers who do it. More hate for texters. You have so much pretend love, your biting pretend sarcasm betrays and reveals the real, angry you.
Anyone still in high school.....angry? I have nothing to be angry about and in my opinion, anger is an infantile emotion.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:32 am
by runrussellrun
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:29 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:28 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:06 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:57 am ...and yet, you don't defend her, or her demographic. Just feed the fear porn monster. Interesting principles.
You are one of those “I will buy the beer for the kids” kind of guys. This looks promising

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
What age do you consider a "kid"?

Old enough to put on a uniform, old enough for a beer. Don't you think.

I hate drinking and drivers who do it. More hate for texters. You have so much pretend love, your biting pretend sarcasm betrays and reveals the real, angry you.
Anyone still in high school.
you can't be 20, on sugar mountain.......but you certainly can still be in high school. Just ask Duke.