NESCAC

[River Donkey]

I'd like to think that these policies would have an impact on application volume and yield percentage for the class applying this fall, but I'm pretty sure they won't move the needle at all.

100%...Muffy and Chip already have their purple 1/4 zips and matching dog collar ready for The Biggest Little Game in America...

Ha!! This comment is great and wouldn’t be surprised if you aren’t spot on. Lol!!

[SneaksBeac]

Uh Oh...


https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/cor ... s/2577213/

[SouthernLaxGenius]

Uh Oh...


https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/cor ... s/2577213/

Oh goodness. Please not again

[pcowlax]

whats also interesting is the amount of control the school wants over what students are doing off campus.

Plenty of campuses that had a "no travel" rule in the last year. Not that uncommon with COVID.

It's not last year.

[KingPrat]

whats also interesting is the amount of control the school wants over what students are doing off campus.

Plenty of campuses that had a "no travel" rule in the last year. Not that uncommon with COVID.

It's not last year.

Infection rates are back to being stupidly high right now. In a time where students are moving back to campuses across the country, this is a bad combo.

Do you honestly think that colleges are going to bring kids back without:

A - testing
B - quarantine
C - travel restrictions?

Biggest spreaders currently are big get togethers - think family weddings, parties, etc. Kid goes home to a party, comes back to campus, and infects a bunch of people. The worst combination/scenario for colleges.

They're literally trying to avoid shutting down like they did last year. These colleges lost a crapload of money last year. Kids on campus = better retention and ability to charge full price. AND athletics, btw. First thing to get cut are extra-curriculars like clubs and athletics.

Colleges learned from last year and are enacting policies that they believe are going to keep them open and in-person, which also means the ability to have intercollegiate athletic competitions. In a conference like the NESCAC, that is a lifeblood.

To bring kids back without these policies in place would be insanely stupid, regardless of vaccination status. Just because students are in a beneficial category, doesn't mean that the entire campus community is in the same boat. I'm sure there are plenty of staff and faculty who have pre-existing conditions or are immunocompromised. You're not just protecting students.

Better to be cautious and wrong, than reckless and right.

[pcowlax]

whats also interesting is the amount of control the school wants over what students are doing off campus.

Plenty of campuses that had a "no travel" rule in the last year. Not that uncommon with COVID.

It's not last year.

Infection rates are back to being stupidly high right now. In a time where students are moving back to campuses across the country, this is a bad combo.

Do you honestly think that colleges are going to bring kids back without:

A - testing
B - quarantine
C - travel restrictions?

Biggest spreaders currently are big get togethers - think family weddings, parties, etc. Kid goes home to a party, comes back to campus, and infects a bunch of people. The worst combination/scenario for colleges.

They're literally trying to avoid shutting down like they did last year. These colleges lost a crapload of money last year. Kids on campus = better retention and ability to charge full price. AND athletics, btw. First thing to get cut are extra-curriculars like clubs and athletics.

Colleges learned from last year and are enacting policies that they believe are going to keep them open and in-person, which also means the ability to have intercollegiate athletic competitions. In a conference like the NESCAC, that is a lifeblood.

To bring kids back without these policies in place would be insanely stupid, regardless of vaccination status. Just because students are in a beneficial category, doesn't mean that the entire campus community is in the same boat. I'm sure there are plenty of staff and faculty who have pre-existing conditions or are immunocompromised. You're not just protecting students.

Better to be cautious and wrong, than reckless and right.

Ah. "Stupidly high" (we sure are not seeing that in hospitals by the way). Reckless. Yes, yes. You know, of course, that infection rates will be much higher soon in NESCAC land because it will get cold and people will go back inside and rates will rise as they did in the south. It won't matter a whit who masks, who quarantines or who isolates. The students will still, of course, not have even the slightest medically relevant risk of actually getting any sort of real illness if they catch COVID. COVID IS NOT GOING AWAY. It will be here every year. The immunocompromised will do what they have done since Semmelweis and avoid crowds, it is not on the crowds to avoid them. The campus community IS in the same boat. Everyone who wants a vaccine has had one. Those who don't want one can do as they will. The miniscule number who medically can't get one can chose to work with the risk or get another job. Is that harsh? Ludicrously oppressive measures for years form people who are at no risk for COVID are "just being safe". If you feel are at that great of a risk from COVID by being at a college, at some point you need to take the measures to keep yourself safe.

[KingPrat]

whats also interesting is the amount of control the school wants over what students are doing off campus.

Plenty of campuses that had a "no travel" rule in the last year. Not that uncommon with COVID.

It's not last year.

Infection rates are back to being stupidly high right now. In a time where students are moving back to campuses across the country, this is a bad combo.

Do you honestly think that colleges are going to bring kids back without:

A - testing
B - quarantine
C - travel restrictions?

Biggest spreaders currently are big get togethers - think family weddings, parties, etc. Kid goes home to a party, comes back to campus, and infects a bunch of people. The worst combination/scenario for colleges.

They're literally trying to avoid shutting down like they did last year. These colleges lost a crapload of money last year. Kids on campus = better retention and ability to charge full price. AND athletics, btw. First thing to get cut are extra-curriculars like clubs and athletics.

Colleges learned from last year and are enacting policies that they believe are going to keep them open and in-person, which also means the ability to have intercollegiate athletic competitions. In a conference like the NESCAC, that is a lifeblood.

To bring kids back without these policies in place would be insanely stupid, regardless of vaccination status. Just because students are in a beneficial category, doesn't mean that the entire campus community is in the same boat. I'm sure there are plenty of staff and faculty who have pre-existing conditions or are immunocompromised. You're not just protecting students.

Better to be cautious and wrong, than reckless and right.

Ah. "Stupidly high" (we sure are not seeing that in hospitals by the way). Reckless. Yes, yes. You know, of course, that infection rates will be much higher soon in NESCAC land because it will get cold and people will go back inside and rates will rise as they did in the south. It won't matter a whit who masks, who quarantines or who isolates. The students will still, of course, not have even the slightest medically relevant risk of actually getting any sort of real illness if they catch COVID. COVID IS NOT GOING AWAY. It will be here every year. The immunocompromised will do what they have done since Semmelweis and avoid crowds, it is not on the crowds to avoid them. The campus community IS in the same boat. Everyone who wants a vaccine has had one. Those who don't want one can do as they will. The miniscule number who medically can't get one can chose to work with the risk or get another job. Is that harsh? Ludicrously oppressive measures for years form people who are at no risk for COVID are "just being safe". If you feel are at that great of a risk from COVID by being at a college, at some point you need to take the measures to keep yourself safe.

So you're saying colleges should just say "F it" and let 18-22 year olds do whatever they want? Let COVID run rampant through campus and go full Ivan Drago? ("If he dies, he dies...")

Sure worked out well in Texas. Two dead teachers. Great plan.

[DeepPocket]

So you're saying colleges should just say "F it" and let 18-22 year olds do whatever they want? ….

I didn’t author the referenced post, but I don’t see that written anywhere. This isn’t an all or nothing scenario, and the only people using that argument seemingly desire one of those absolutes.

….Sure worked out well in Texas. Two dead teachers. Great plan.

One person dead is one person too many. But I don’t think the death count number of “two” hits the way you want it to here.

[KingPrat]

One person dead is one person too many. But I don’t think the death count number of “two” hits the way you want it to here.

I was referencing a single school district - Connally. In the news this week. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/texas-sch ... d=79773758

For a forum that pushes for lacrosse to be played, there sure seems to be a lot of criticism for schools trying to make that happen...

[DeepPocket]

For a forum that pushes for lacrosse to be played, there sure seems to be a lot of criticism for schools trying to make that happen...

…. You’re right. We can revisit this at the end of this season. We can see exactly how these policies were effective at making lacrosse “happen” for Amherst, and compare that to, say, Salisbury, who will no doubt have a robust OOC travel schedule combined with likely a fraction of the restrictions.

What factors should we consider looking forward?
-Strength of schedule
-games played
-known deaths caused?
This can be a silly as we want.

[Dehuntshigwa’es]

One person dead is one person too many. But I don’t think the death count number of “two” hits the way you want it to here.

I was referencing a single school district - Connally. In the news this week. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/texas-sch ... d=79773758

For a forum that pushes for lacrosse to be played, there sure seems to be a lot of criticism for schools trying to make that happen...

If Amherst feels compelled to take these steps in order to have a season I guess you do it. It just seems a little over the top. As has been stated COVID is not going away, individuals will have to make choices as to what they are willing to give up or what risks they are willing to take.

[JBFortunato]

whats also interesting is the amount of control the school wants over what students are doing off campus.

Plenty of campuses that had a "no travel" rule in the last year. Not that uncommon with COVID.

It's not last year.

Infection rates are back to being stupidly high right now. In a time where students are moving back to campuses across the country, this is a bad combo.

Do you honestly think that colleges are going to bring kids back without:

A - testing
B - quarantine
C - travel restrictions?

Biggest spreaders currently are big get togethers - think family weddings, parties, etc. Kid goes home to a party, comes back to campus, and infects a bunch of people. The worst combination/scenario for colleges.

They're literally trying to avoid shutting down like they did last year. These colleges lost a crapload of money last year. Kids on campus = better retention and ability to charge full price. AND athletics, btw. First thing to get cut are extra-curriculars like clubs and athletics.

Colleges learned from last year and are enacting policies that they believe are going to keep them open and in-person, which also means the ability to have intercollegiate athletic competitions. In a conference like the NESCAC, that is a lifeblood.

To bring kids back without these policies in place would be insanely stupid, regardless of vaccination status. Just because students are in a beneficial category, doesn't mean that the entire campus community is in the same boat. I'm sure there are plenty of staff and faculty who have pre-existing conditions or are immunocompromised. You're not just protecting students.

Better to be cautious and wrong, than reckless and right.

I really can't believe it's September 2021 and I still get on this forum and read this garbage. This is a seasonal endemic respiratory virus. If you think the vaccine can help, get it. If you want to wear a mask, knock yourself out. Any one who wants to do so should be able to get back to living without restrictions. Most importantly kids and college students, who have paid an inordinately large part of the bill over the last 18 months, especially in light of their minimal risk.

I would ask the Admin to move any Covid-related discussions to another part of these forums and leave the lacrosse forums to lacrosse.

[Dehuntshigwa’es]

whats also interesting is the amount of control the school wants over what students are doing off campus.

Plenty of campuses that had a "no travel" rule in the last year. Not that uncommon with COVID.

It's not last year.

Infection rates are back to being stupidly high right now. In a time where students are moving back to campuses across the country, this is a bad combo.

Do you honestly think that colleges are going to bring kids back without:

A - testing
B - quarantine
C - travel restrictions?

Biggest spreaders currently are big get togethers - think family weddings, parties, etc. Kid goes home to a party, comes back to campus, and infects a bunch of people. The worst combination/scenario for colleges.

They're literally trying to avoid shutting down like they did last year. These colleges lost a crapload of money last year. Kids on campus = better retention and ability to charge full price. AND athletics, btw. First thing to get cut are extra-curriculars like clubs and athletics.

Colleges learned from last year and are enacting policies that they believe are going to keep them open and in-person, which also means the ability to have intercollegiate athletic competitions. In a conference like the NESCAC, that is a lifeblood.

To bring kids back without these policies in place would be insanely stupid, regardless of vaccination status. Just because students are in a beneficial category, doesn't mean that the entire campus community is in the same boat. I'm sure there are plenty of staff and faculty who have pre-existing conditions or are immunocompromised. You're not just protecting students.

Better to be cautious and wrong, than reckless and right.

I really can't believe it's September 2021 and I still get on this forum and read this garbage. This is a seasonal endemic respiratory virus. If you think the vaccine can help, get it. If you want to wear a mask, knock yourself out. Any one who wants to do so should be able to get back to living without restrictions. Most importantly kids and college students, who have paid an inordinately large part of the bill over the last 18 months, especially in light of their minimal risk.

I would ask the Admin to move any Covid-related discussions to another part of these forums and leave the lacrosse forums to lacrosse.

The NESCAC thread is almost the only thread that’s discussing COVID lately. Reading thru other forums D1, D2 or otherD3 posts it’s not a hot topic. The NESCAC’s schools continue to impose stringent restrictions on their campuses. I think the posts here are simply reflective of their reality.

[backerzone]

New DC at Amherst is Richard Carrington- ex Tusculum HC.

[Sidelinehorn!]

If you're interested in the Conn. College story.....https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1435691262611447810

Yikes

[Switzerland]

If you're interested in the Conn. College story.....https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1435691262611447810

Yikes

This is why we can't have nice things.

[44WeWantMore]

I hope the students are getting an education.

And I hope it is not the one the administrators think they are getting.

[nescac commit]

President Buddy Martin has announced her resignation as Amherst College President, effective at the end of the school year.

[InsiderRoll]

President Buddy Martin has announced her resignation as Amherst College President, effective at the end of the school year.

Source?

[Sidelinehorn!]

https://www.amherst.edu/news/press-releases/node/810549