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Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:03 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:00 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:36 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:31 am Latvia, a former Soviet republic, has selected an out gay man as president...
Wow. Pretty amazing. Though slowly, the world is changing.
... to me it looks like a sign of worldwide "western democracy" pushback against the fascist scapegoating of LGBTQ individuals -- western mainstreaming. It is good news.
Bud Light sales are going to really tank there!

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm
by jhu72
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:03 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:00 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:36 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:31 am Latvia, a former Soviet republic, has selected an out gay man as president...
Wow. Pretty amazing. Though slowly, the world is changing.
... to me it looks like a sign of worldwide "western democracy" pushback against the fascist scapegoating of LGBTQ individuals -- western mainstreaming. It is good news.
Bud Light sales are going to really tank there!
:lol: :lol:

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:24 pm
by runrussellrun
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm

:lol: :lol:
exactly right.......not sure why you support a homophobic country, like Ukraine ? But , love the "flag" :roll:

10 days to respond to the petition......what action did Zelenski take ?

exactly

This article is almost one year old, from July 2022

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62134804

A petition in Ukraine calling for same-sex marriage to be legalised has gained enough signatures for the president to consider the proposal.

The petition has more than 28,000 signatures, meaning President Volodymyr Zelensky now has 10 days to respond.

Homosexuality is not illegal in Ukraine, but same-sex marriages and civil partnerships are not recognised.

This has caused particular problems for LGBT people signing up for the military following Russia's invasion.

For example, under Ukrainian law if someone in a same-sex relationship dies, their partner cannot collect their body or bury them.

The online petition says: "At this time, every day can be the last."

One LGBT organisation has described the petition as an "important moment" for members of the community.

"It is important that LGBTQ people have the right to see their partner and take their body from the morgue, and seek compensation if needed," Oksana Solonska, media communications manager at Kyiv Pride, told the BBC.

"All married couples have these rights. We really hope that same-sex marriage will be legalised, so people will be able to take care of each other," she added.

Any petitions in Ukraine that gather more than 25,000 signatures automatically trigger the president's consideration. However this does not guarantee any changes to the current law, and it is not clear whether Mr Zelensky will move to legalise same-sex marriage.

While some efforts have been made to protect LGBT people in Ukraine - such as an anti-discrimination law that was introduced in 2015 - its LGBT community has suffered homophobia, intolerance and violence.

In 2013, the country's first official Pride march was held in Kyiv despite protests - it was meant to happen the previous year, but was cancelled after a gathering of skinheads threatened participants.

And in 2018, activists were attacked at a Kyiv transgender rally by far-right militants.
Paramedics rinsing the eyes of activists

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:25 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:14 am Why does everything think this is DeSantis main campaign plank?
Like it's that hard to figure out.

A. his punishing of Disney for daring to have an opinion made national news. I LOVE that you don't care about that.
B. the laws he passed trying to "stick it to the gays" in FLA public schools is national news.

C. when guys like me tried to hear what his updated platform was from DeSantis himself, they had tech failures that kept me from hearing from him directly.

Any other softball questions?

runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:14 am Your fecesbook "feed" may be spreading this lie, but Ron D's main focus is finding out What the heck happened during covid lockdowns. THAT.....is DeSantis' main campaign plank. You and yours want to forget, all the insanity took place. Starting with tRumps legal immunity, cares act of 2020. Yup.....afan and friends have "moved on".
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: So DeSantis it gonna give us four more years of not governing, and instead, catering to you and your pals on TeamTinFoil hat. He's gonna give me a fat tax cut, double the size of the Federal Government, do NOTHING to help the working class....and yet you'll be THRILLED because he's gonna get to the bottom of the Covid Conspiracy.

Neat-o. I'm SO exited for you. What's he gonna find, RRR? "The gays" were behind a conspiracy to keep RRR mad? Oh....what about "aliens". Maybe THEY did it, right? Can't wait to get the "truth" from your man DeSantis.


And I can't tell you how happy it makes me that we're 3 years into Covid, and you STILL can't be bothered to look up the word "vaccine", and know what that word means. You and your buds STILL think it means "a drug that is 100% effective, no backsies, crossmyheart, forreals. :lol:

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:26 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm

:lol: :lol:
exactly right.......not sure why you support a homophobic country, like Ukraine ? But , love the "flag" :roll:
:lol: America is a homophobic country, my man. Why do you support America?

yet Ukraine....

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:30 pm
by runrussellrun
this was typed into an internet search engine
zelensky signs same sex marriage law
Apparently, to fleece the phonies in the USA for more billion$, all last summer (2020), Zelensky "considered" same sex marriage.

because, apparently, he never did any such thing (make same sex marriage legal ) , unless the internet is surpressing said "news" article.

stay principled.

You GO Ukraine.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:35 pm
by MDlaxfan76
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:25 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:36 am
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:16 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:10 am [url=https://www.msn.com :lol: :lol: :lol: /en-us/news/us/backlash-to-the-backlash-is-seeing-reddest-parts-of-florida-rise-against-desantis-right-wing-crusade-columnist/ar-AA1c0jb5?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=885e07bde4b64b60aaa45f1d1bffb110&ei=30] DeSantis suffering backlash in deep red Florida. [/url]
fear porn alert.

Looked into this county's not for profit, and the donations.

looks like the government, specifically, the STATE of Florida.......contributed about 80% of Hernando County "donations".

This non profit, pays it's board members......are the "board" members double dipping, getting paid as school officials, to go along with this foundation ?

strange, that most 990 forms, required by law, are not be found online ,anymore.

the internet is dead. culled.
ugh, I am tiptoeing into a conversation with you...

Could you please provide a link to whatever you are trying to suggest is awry...what's the source, what is "this county's not for profit" and what is meant by "donations"?

And is this related in any way to the subject of the article?

The point of the article is that in a county in which the Governor of Florida recently won overwhelmingly and which has been in the news because of the school's announcing of an investigation into a teacher...initiated by a school board member who objected to a Disney film shown the children as a violation of recent laws sponsored by and signed by said Governor...who is now one of three major candidates for the Presidency of the USA...there is a backlash from students, teachers and other parents to this right wing hysteria over "woke"...the article suggests that such backlash is happening elsewhere as well, but particularly notable in such a 'red' county in the state "where woke goes to die"...my embellishment there...

Now, if that has something to do with whatever you are referring to above, please make the connection for us and as I'm not able to decipher your intended message and I suspect others aren't able to do so as well.

You may well have a compelling point, I just can't tell...
I prefer my "news" to include actual human beings, not vague claims with zero attribution.

Only two , actual names, in the article. One", was Allysa Marano (sp), who was one of two dozen that got "teacher of the year" in 2019.


https://hernandoeducationfoundation.org (you can carouse the financials yourself )

Strange, that the State of Florida, would give tax dollars away like this, and involving "private" bizness enterprises.



I would buy into your being "sincere", if you had one moment of follow up and interest into the MSN "headlines".

you show a disdain, nay, a penchant for bashing those that want follow up.

IE: "....state of Florida investigating teacher for Disney movie... "

really ?

What IS the end game, of said "investigation" ? Human resources keeping "track" ? Firing the teacher ? Who cares about the END game, the headlines and vague "news" articles make their point. Sow the narrative. Us vs THEM.

And, why a "Disney" movie about gays. Why not the classic, "la Cage aux Folles".....still funny, even without knowing French, so well acted. (Robin Williams remake wasn't fun, or funny )

Or, why not "some like it hot" ? Classic line at the end........he just didn't give a F, and wanted Curtis either way.

but....of course....you eat it up. disney film about "gays" ...of course, disney , Headlines only.

Another example would be your lack of follow up regarding the "jewish, autistic, swastika "carved" into his back"

we read some short, reactionary comment.

because a BILL Gates owned, "news" yellow journalism MSN (now written by computers ;) ....

......sayz so.

I will search the lexus nexus legal database for any legal action in the Las Vegas HS swastika carving. you interested in knowing the legal status of said incident ? (if, in fact, it occurred, how could a caring human NOT want to know what happened to the awful humans that did this ? Not, want to follow up on the story.

NOPE........reactionary headlines. Like your one word response , "good", to jhu72's fear porn link.

the outcome, as intended.

who is gearing up to take that summer booster ? When they coming out with a "vaccine" for equine ensephalitius ?

oh, and, we learned that my nephew got Rebellous, the "r" part of the MMR, measles, mumps........ It is so odd, because his partner contracted polio.

msn claims polio IS thru the roof. cases spiking. But, at least, these people have been vaccinated.

getting polio, "less sick"..........is a true testament to $cien$e and the miracles of vaccinations.



still, way less than YOUR usual word count :D
well, that's a big miss mash of unrelated stuff, so I'll ignore that part in the context of this thread.

But ok, so this school district has a 501c3 that allows business and individuals to donate to classroom teaching projects, college scholarships, or other things that donors presumably want to see supported above and beyond local taxes. And the State puts in a big chunk of that support. I'd think that's pretty typical, but maybe you know better?

Are you suggesting that this has anything to do with why there's a big pushback on the school administration and particular board members getting all up in arms because a teacher showed a Disney film that happens to have a presumably gay character (character has a crush on another character) as part of a story unrelated to sexuality?

I don't see the connection, but if you do, ok.

Seems to me that there's a tremendous effort by right wing politicians to "sow division" around a whole set of things they call "woke". Just listen to the two most prominent GOP candidates this week, and last, and surely let next week as well. And they're passing all sorts of laws to enforce their particular "morality" goals...but it turns out that a whole lot of citizens don't care for those laws and how they're impacting people, especially kids, on the ground...sounds like democracy at work at a very local level...

BTW, this is a very specific thread in the Politics section of the overall forum..

If you don't want to talk about the thread topic, there are other threads aplenty.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:37 pm
by MDlaxfan76
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:26 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm

:lol: :lol:
exactly right.......not sure why you support a homophobic country, like Ukraine ? But , love the "flag" :roll:
:lol: America is a homophobic country, my man. Why do you support America?
He doesn't...not in the slightest. The world is run (by insert demons du jour) in a conspiracy to screw him. TAATS.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:39 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:26 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm

:lol: :lol:
exactly right.......not sure why you support a homophobic country, like Ukraine ? But , love the "flag" :roll:
:lol: America is a homophobic country, my man. Why do you support America?
https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments ... field_gay/

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:41 pm
by runrussellrun
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:26 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm

:lol: :lol:
exactly right.......not sure why you support a homophobic country, like Ukraine ? But , love the "flag" :roll:
:lol: America is a homophobic country, my man. Why do you support America?
Dude, clearly you didn't click on the link, to THE awesomeness that IS joe biden and his stance on this issue.

With American leaders , like homophobes the Clinton and Biden, guess you missed mdlaxfan's NPR link about how cool.....Joe B. is now, with the same sex crowd.

So, you are saying that NPR are a bunch of idiots, that PROGRESS, in America, doesn't exist ?

which net, are we shooting at.....I see 5.

it IS 2023.

homosexuals (same sex) are entitled to the same benefits, contractually/legally, as the opposite sex has had. In every single state in the USA. Supreme court put the cherry on top.

progress.

You see the USA as equal to the Ukraine? I don't .

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:48 pm
by runrussellrun
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:25 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:14 am Why does everything think this is DeSantis main campaign plank?
Like it's that hard to figure out.

A. his punishing of Disney for daring to have an opinion made national news. Punishing "Disney" how so ? I LOVE that you don't care about that. I love that you know everyone intentions and thoughts. cue the "so hard to understand" stuff :roll:
B. the laws he passed trying to "stick it to the gays" in FLA public schools is national news. more fear porn. If they aren't talking about sex/gender in schools, why care that a law prevents something that, apparently, isn't happening in the first place. seems confusing

C. when guys like me tried to hear what his updated platform was from DeSantis himself, they had tech failures that kept me from hearing from him directly. Can you, specifically, provide the language of said "laws" ? again, vague "links" to links, to that "linked" story, is NOT law. something with a .gov suffix

the rest of your response read insecure.

Be specific........the actual "stick it to the gays" stuff. (and NO.....infotainment ain't cutting it. )




Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:56 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:41 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:26 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm

:lol: :lol:
exactly right.......not sure why you support a homophobic country, like Ukraine ? But , love the "flag" :roll:
:lol: America is a homophobic country, my man. Why do you support America?
Dude, clearly you didn't click on the link, to THE awesomeness that IS joe biden and his stance on this issue.

With American leaders , like homophobes the Clinton and Biden, guess you missed mdlaxfan's NPR link about how cool.....Joe B. is now, with the same sex crowd.
What part of "America is a homophobic country" isn't clear to you ?

Want me to bold it for you? America is a homophobic country"

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:01 pm
by runrussellrun
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:35 pm BTW, this is a very specific thread in the Politics section of the overall forum..

If you don't want to talk about the thread topic, there are other threads aplenty.
the need to write such a response, IS what, again ?

especially, after discussing the very topic you laud against :lol:

bizarre.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:01 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:48 pm ]more fear porn. If they aren't talking about sex/gender in schools, why care that a law prevents something that, apparently, isn't happening in the first place. seems confusing
That's because everything confuses you. Words like Vaccine are too much for you to handle.

Did you read the law? Nope. I did. Had this same dumb conversation with Pete.

DeSantis wrote a law that was designed to let him tell his supporters that he was chasing gays out of Florida schools. That's it. That was the INTENT behind the law.....to let DeSantis claim victory over the gays.
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:48 pm Can you, specifically, provide the language of said "laws" ? again, vague "links" to links, to that "linked" story, is NOT law. something with a .gov suffi
Already did that when the bill was signed. It's in this forum.

Not my fault you didn't read it, or comment about it, or care.

You're late to the party, as usual.

Neat-o to see that DeSantis is the new guy you're defending because of your sad need to act hip and edgy, and not "mainstream".

Anyone on the forum says "up" you come on here screaming "you guys aren't cool....I say it's DOWN".

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:04 pm
by jhu72
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm

:lol: :lol:
exactly right.......not sure why you support a homophobic country, like Ukraine ? But , love the "flag" :roll:
... it is a rather nice flag in color and simplicity. Ukraine is fighting an even more homophobic country! Go figure. :lol:

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:05 pm
by runrussellrun
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:56 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:41 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:26 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:07 pm

:lol: :lol:
exactly right.......not sure why you support a homophobic country, like Ukraine ? But , love the "flag" :roll:
:lol: America is a homophobic country, my man. Why do you support America?
Dude, clearly you didn't click on the link, to THE awesomeness that IS joe biden and his stance on this issue.

With American leaders , like homophobes the Clinton and Biden, guess you missed mdlaxfan's NPR link about how cool.....Joe B. is now, with the same sex crowd.
What part of "America is a homophobic country" isn't clear to you ?

Want me to bold it for you? America is a homophobic country"
I don't see it that way. You do. It IS Why you keep repeating your opinion, as if fact. Net moving 101.

I like the fact, that in the USA....you can actually get a job and be gay. FBI losers cann't "we got these pictures, see " anymore, can they ?

Progress.

The obvious, meh man, is WHAT country isn't homophobic ? our facists up North ?

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:06 pm
by runrussellrun
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:01 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:48 pm ]more fear porn. If they aren't talking about sex/gender in schools, why care that a law prevents something that, apparently, isn't happening in the first place. seems confusing
That's because everything confuses you. Words like Vaccine are too much for you to handle.

Did you read the law? Nope. I did. Had this same dumb conversation with Pete.

DeSantis wrote a law that was designed to let him tell his supporters that he was chasing gays out of Florida schools. That's it. That was the INTENT behind the law.....to let DeSantis claim victory over the gays.
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:48 pm Can you, specifically, provide the language of said "laws" ? again, vague "links" to links, to that "linked" story, is NOT law. something with a .gov suffi
Already did that when the bill was signed. It's in this forum.

Not my fault you didn't read it, or comment about it, or care.

You're late to the party, as usual.

Neat-o to see that DeSantis is the new guy you're defending because of your sad need to act hip and edgy, and not "mainstream".

Anyone on the forum says "up" you come on here screaming "you guys aren't cool....I say it's DOWN".
you refuse to provide evidence, got it.

(late to the party ????? pretty sure I was the one that posted the actual law, not you :lol: :lol:

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:11 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:05 pm The obvious, meh man, is WHAT country isn't homophobic ? our facists up North ?
Hey! Look who got to the center of the shrubbery maze! You win a cookie.

ALL countries are homophobic. That's right.

So why did you single out Ukraine?

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:13 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:06 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:01 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:48 pm ]more fear porn. If they aren't talking about sex/gender in schools, why care that a law prevents something that, apparently, isn't happening in the first place. seems confusing
That's because everything confuses you. Words like Vaccine are too much for you to handle.

Did you read the law? Nope. I did. Had this same dumb conversation with Pete.

DeSantis wrote a law that was designed to let him tell his supporters that he was chasing gays out of Florida schools. That's it. That was the INTENT behind the law.....to let DeSantis claim victory over the gays.
runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:48 pm Can you, specifically, provide the language of said "laws" ? again, vague "links" to links, to that "linked" story, is NOT law. something with a .gov suffi
Already did that when the bill was signed. It's in this forum.

Not my fault you didn't read it, or comment about it, or care.

You're late to the party, as usual.

Neat-o to see that DeSantis is the new guy you're defending because of your sad need to act hip and edgy, and not "mainstream".

Anyone on the forum says "up" you come on here screaming "you guys aren't cool....I say it's DOWN".
you refuse to provide evidence, got it.
Don't care what you think about this. We discussed the bill in question on this very forum when it was signed by DeSantis. You didn't care enough to comment or notice in your facebook feed that it happened. Move on.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:19 pm
by jhu72
Current status of LGBTQ individuals in Ukraine. Not as bleak as some would have you believe.