AND the knuckleheads who chose to ignore the scientists out of some twisted notion of fealty to the President.
Did you hear Dr Faucci.
He saw NO DIFFERENCE between what they (the experts) were telling Trump and what Trump was telling the American people.
Read that again S L O W L Y !
Read your words...??? or listen to Tony Fauci?
Fauci (not Q) has repeatedly differentiated what the experts advised and what Trump said and did instead. Again and again and again...just did so again this week.
He's been walking a tightrope with Trump, but this isn't a remotely close call.
Fauci added that his and other White House Coronavirus Task Force members’ discussions with Trump were “about the reality of what was going on.”
"And then when we would get up in front of the press conferences, which were very, very common after our discussions with the president, he really didn't say anything different than we discussed when we were with him," he said.
“I didn't see any discrepancies between what he told us and what we told him, and what he came out publicly and said.”
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:20 am
That said, Justin Trudeau is the world's biggest pu@@y, and in no universe should any leader emulate that wet noodle. I still can't believe he's hetero...is that a false front marriage?
Ask Melania. She sure seems to be smitten with him.
No one is safe from Trudeau's charm...
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:49 am
by youthathletics
It's called the power of the Pu$$_...they know exactly what that look means...and when your wife looks at you like that, you too become flummoxed as to whether is it go time or you being set up for another chose.
AND the knuckleheads who chose to ignore the scientists out of some twisted notion of fealty to the President.
Did you hear Dr Faucci.
He saw NO DIFFERENCE between what they (the experts) were telling Trump and what Trump was telling the American people.
Read that again S L O W L Y !
Read your words...??? or listen to Tony Fauci?
Fauci (not Q) has repeatedly differentiated what the experts advised and what Trump said and did instead. Again and again and again...just did so again this week.
He's been walking a tightrope with Trump, but this isn't a remotely close call.
Fauci added that his and other White House Coronavirus Task Force members’ discussions with Trump were “about the reality of what was going on.”
"And then when we would get up in front of the press conferences, which were very, very common after our discussions with the president, he really didn't say anything different than we discussed when we were with him," he said.
“I didn't see any discrepancies between what he told us and what we told him, and what he came out publicly and said.”
yup, he's walking a heck of a tightrope there, pretty convoluted statement excerpted as if that's all he said, even in that one interview, much less the time after time after time, Trump has said something and Fauci then corrects him in public. This week he directly contradicted Trump's promises of a vaccine in October being approved, much less available for wide distribution. He's optimistic about at least one of the early candidates being useful, possibly known before the end of the year, but he did the actual timeline necessary and that takes it into at least November for the Phase III to be complete, then the data evaluated.
But hey, you wanna think Trump followed the experts' advice, and encouraged us all to do so consistently, you go ahead.
Should you wear a mask when in a crowd inside? Should there be crowds inside at all?
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:20 am
That said, Justin Trudeau is the world's biggest pu@@y, and in no universe should any leader emulate that wet noodle. I still can't believe he's hetero...is that a false front marriage?
Ask Melania. She sure seems to be smitten with him.
AND the knuckleheads who chose to ignore the scientists out of some twisted notion of fealty to the President.
Did you hear Dr Faucci.
He saw NO DIFFERENCE between what they (the experts) were telling Trump and what Trump was telling the American people.
Read that again S L O W L Y !
Read your words...??? or listen to Tony Fauci?
Fauci (not Q) has repeatedly differentiated what the experts advised and what Trump said and did instead. Again and again and again...just did so again this week.
He's been walking a tightrope with Trump, but this isn't a remotely close call.
Fauci added that his and other White House Coronavirus Task Force members’ discussions with Trump were “about the reality of what was going on.”
"And then when we would get up in front of the press conferences, which were very, very common after our discussions with the president, he really didn't say anything different than we discussed when we were with him," he said.
“I didn't see any discrepancies between what he told us and what we told him, and what he came out publicly and said.”
It should be noted that this was tested in Mice........sometimes things work great in mouse models and not so great in human's. Not that it is going to happen here but it does happen. I am hopeful this provides some type of relief. It certainly looks promising from their release.....
Edit: Interesting side note........this article was received way back in May and just revised to be accepted. They must have pushed further since May, it will be real interesting to see what comes of this.
hopefully they have since may. 4 months is a long time in 2020.
Certainly is a long time in 2020, unfortunately a very short time in Nerd lab time.
noted vaccine expert bill gates chimes in with his 2 cents on "delays" from a moved up timeline... he does give the out that pfizer may get pushed to the front if everything goes perfectly, including speaking to eua prior to approval.
pfizer ceo interview talks about:
- on track for a data readout a week before/week after late october
- also says 30,000 vaccinated now is complete, going well enough and confident for safety that an additional 14,000 will be added in a lot of high risk groups
-100 mill avail by year end globally, 1.3 bill in 2021
of course a setback like astrazeneca's is always possible.
It should be noted that this was tested in Mice........sometimes things work great in mouse models and not so great in human's. Not that it is going to happen here but it does happen. I am hopeful this provides some type of relief. It certainly looks promising from their release.....
Edit: Interesting side note........this article was received way back in May and just revised to be accepted. They must have pushed further since May, it will be real interesting to see what comes of this.
hopefully they have since may. 4 months is a long time in 2020.
Certainly is a long time in 2020, unfortunately a very short time in Nerd lab time.
true. nothing in clinicaltrials.gov with ab8 or pittsburgh.
It should be noted that this was tested in Mice........sometimes things work great in mouse models and not so great in human's. Not that it is going to happen here but it does happen. I am hopeful this provides some type of relief. It certainly looks promising from their release.....
Edit: Interesting side note........this article was received way back in May and just revised to be accepted. They must have pushed further since May, it will be real interesting to see what comes of this.
hopefully they have since may. 4 months is a long time in 2020.
Certainly is a long time in 2020, unfortunately a very short time in Nerd lab time.
true. nothing in clinicaltrials.gov with ab8 or pittsburgh.
That does not surprise me. This is just the first round of all this. No primate studies yet.
Unfortunately, many diseases are cured in mice to never pan out in Humans. I hope this is different, certainly looks promising.
The science getting to Ab8 is absolutely truly awesome.
It should be noted that this was tested in Mice........sometimes things work great in mouse models and not so great in human's. Not that it is going to happen here but it does happen. I am hopeful this provides some type of relief. It certainly looks promising from their release.....
Edit: Interesting side note........this article was received way back in May and just revised to be accepted. They must have pushed further since May, it will be real interesting to see what comes of this.
hopefully they have since may. 4 months is a long time in 2020.
Certainly is a long time in 2020, unfortunately a very short time in Nerd lab time.
true. nothing in clinicaltrials.gov with ab8 or pittsburgh.
That does not surprise me. This is just the first round of all this. No primate studies yet.
Unfortunately, many diseases are cured in mice to never pan out in Humans. I hope this is different, certainly looks promising.
The science getting to Ab8 is absolutely truly awesome.
It should be noted that this was tested in Mice........sometimes things work great in mouse models and not so great in human's. Not that it is going to happen here but it does happen. I am hopeful this provides some type of relief. It certainly looks promising from their release.....
Edit: Interesting side note........this article was received way back in May and just revised to be accepted. They must have pushed further since May, it will be real interesting to see what comes of this.
hopefully they have since may. 4 months is a long time in 2020.
Certainly is a long time in 2020, unfortunately a very short time in Nerd lab time.
true. nothing in clinicaltrials.gov with ab8 or pittsburgh.
That does not surprise me. This is just the first round of all this. No primate studies yet.
Unfortunately, many diseases are cured in mice to never pan out in Humans. I hope this is different, certainly looks promising.
The science getting to Ab8 is absolutely truly awesome.
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:20 am
That said, Justin Trudeau is the world's biggest pu@@y, and in no universe should any leader emulate that wet noodle. I still can't believe he's hetero...is that a false front marriage?
Ask Melania. She sure seems to be smitten with him.
No one is safe from Trudeau's charm...
LOL!
I loved that last one!
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:21 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm
No one can keep their hands off that sexy Justin!
Alright alright alright!
The guy on the left resembles my buddy Gurpreet!! He was run out of Nebraska because people thought he was Muslim after the twin tower bombing.
noted vaccine expert bill gates chimes in with his 2 cents on "delays" from a moved up timeline... he does give the out that pfizer may get pushed to the front if everything goes perfectly, including speaking to eua prior to approval.
pfizer ceo interview talks about:
- on track for a data readout a week before/week after late october
- also says 30,000 vaccinated now is complete, going well enough and confident for safety that an additional 14,000 will be added in a lot of high risk groups
-100 mill avail by year end globally, 1.3 bill in 2021
of course a setback like astrazeneca's is always possible.
Am I correct that Pfizer is expanding the trial to include 35-60 year olds (I thought that was what CEO said on CNBC and I was surprised they didn't already have that group, much less over 60 year olds), plus some teenagers, some with Hepatitis etc?
Can they ethically administer a vaccine to an age group not yet tested, eg those highest at risk of bad outcomes from Covid?
But perhaps I didn't hear correctly.
Of course, if I did, that's why the process takes longer than this initial sprint...if Phase III indicates it works, at least somewhat, and doesn't appear to have any immediate adverse effects, then you start testing with populations more at risk of poor reactions...and that takes another cycle...
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:28 pm
by holmes435
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm
No one can keep their hands off that sexy Justin!
Nope, and he was wrong for doing it, has apologized for it and admitted it was wrong. Most of my buddies up north aren't a huge fan of his, but think he's a lot better than the people who have ran against him and would rather have him any day of the week over any of our recent candidates.
Nice to see someone recognize their faults and try to make things better. We all screw up. It's what we do afterwards to make it right, or god forbid double down and keep doing it, that speaks to our character.
noted vaccine expert bill gates chimes in with his 2 cents on "delays" from a moved up timeline... he does give the out that pfizer may get pushed to the front if everything goes perfectly, including speaking to eua prior to approval.
pfizer ceo interview talks about:
- on track for a data readout a week before/week after late october
- also says 30,000 vaccinated now is complete, going well enough and confident for safety that an additional 14,000 will be added in a lot of high risk groups
-100 mill avail by year end globally, 1.3 bill in 2021
of course a setback like astrazeneca's is always possible.
Am I correct that Pfizer is expanding the trial to include 35-60 year olds (I thought that was what CEO said on CNBC and I was surprised they didn't already have that group, much less over 60 year olds), plus some teenagers, some with Hepatitis etc?
Can they ethically administer a vaccine to an age group not yet tested, eg those highest at risk of bad outcomes from Covid?
But perhaps I didn't hear correctly.
Of course, if I did, that's why the process takes longer than this initial sprint...if Phase III indicates it works, at least somewhat, and doesn't appear to have any immediate adverse effects, then you start testing with populations more at risk of poor reactions...and that takes another cycle...
noted vaccine expert bill gates chimes in with his 2 cents on "delays" from a moved up timeline... he does give the out that pfizer may get pushed to the front if everything goes perfectly, including speaking to eua prior to approval.
pfizer ceo interview talks about:
- on track for a data readout a week before/week after late october
- also says 30,000 vaccinated now is complete, going well enough and confident for safety that an additional 14,000 will be added in a lot of high risk groups
-100 mill avail by year end globally, 1.3 bill in 2021
of course a setback like astrazeneca's is always possible.
Am I correct that Pfizer is expanding the trial to include 35-60 year olds (I thought that was what CEO said on CNBC and I was surprised they didn't already have that group, much less over 60 year olds), plus some teenagers, some with Hepatitis etc?
Can they ethically administer a vaccine to an age group not yet tested, eg those highest at risk of bad outcomes from Covid?
But perhaps I didn't hear correctly.
Of course, if I did, that's why the process takes longer than this initial sprint...if Phase III indicates it works, at least somewhat, and doesn't appear to have any immediate adverse effects, then you start testing with populations more at risk of poor reactions...and that takes another cycle...
good, I just listened to the clip and I see how I misheard him in real time, with his accent ...he says they're expanding "up to 16 year olds" I heard 60 and the "up" should have been "down". He said something similar later on with Joe Kernan's interview.
In the first interview, he says they'll be able to only produce 1.3 billion doses next year globally...7.6 billion people. Will need to have other vaccines other than theirs get approved in order to have enough for a majority of the world to have been vaccinated by the end of 2021 (with a 50% efficacy as minimum target).
An interesting part of the Kernan interview was that he says they didn't take any US money because they didn't want any strings attached, no bureaucracy. Governments always want something in return, can go faster without the oversight...I don't think he meant that this means they'll simply sell to highest bidder, but it certainly is interesting.
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm
No one can keep their hands off that sexy Justin!
Nope, and he was wrong for doing it, has apologized for it and admitted it was wrong. Most of my buddies up north aren't a huge fan of his, but think he's a lot better than the people who have ran against him and would rather have him any day of the week over any of our recent candidates.
Nice to see someone recognize their faults and try to make things better. We all screw up. It's what we do afterwards to make it right, or god forbid double down and keep doing it, that speaks to our character.
Agreed! 100% earning from one's mistakes is an admirable trait. I don't see admitting a mistake is weakness. Quite the opposite. If' you've done it you know how hard it is. Trump's stubborness on that part is my least favorite part of him.
