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Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:00 pm
by ICGrad
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:41 am
see what happens, computer, when last year, hence this year, the REAL top teams (the ones that make the playoffs, unless THAT doesn't matter ;)
I've read this 5 times; I have zero idea what you're trying to say.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:54 pm
by Matnum PI
ICGrad wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:00 pm I've read this 5 times; I have zero idea what you're trying to say.
Now you know how I feel when I read your posts...

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Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:09 pm
by ICGrad
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:54 pm Now you know how I feel when I read your posts...
Huh...

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:48 pm
by Matnum PI
ICGrad wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:09 pm Huh...
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Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:05 pm
by Farfromgeneva
ICGrad wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:00 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:41 am
see what happens, computer, when last year, hence this year, the REAL top teams (the ones that make the playoffs, unless THAT doesn't matter ;)
I've read this 5 times; I have zero idea what you're trying to say.
https://youtu.be/_8yRvdsbeAk

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:06 am
by Matnum PI
Matnum PI wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:06 am Reminder: FanLax Forum Polls are due on Monday at noon EST. Enjoy this weekend's games. Forum Poll Link (with Submission Links towards the bottom of the page).
Noon EST. All are welcome to submit a ranking.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:54 am
by Matnum PI
I'm curious to see what people do with Princeton. They won big but... You could also call the W an upset. It was one game. These things happen. But they did win big so... Curious.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:01 am
by Farfromgeneva
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:54 am I'm curious to see what people do with Princeton. They won big but... You could also call the W an upset. It was one game. These things happen. But they did win big so... Curious.
What about Yale & Loyola?

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:11 am
by Matnum PI
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:01 am What about Yale & Loyola?
Also curious about them. But P'ton's situation is more extreme.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:14 am
by Farfromgeneva
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:11 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:01 am What about Yale & Loyola?
Also curious about them. But P'ton's situation is more extreme.
Even with their wins and Brandau I don’t see how one can truly rank Yale having given up 43 goals in their last two games.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:16 am
by rolldodge
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:11 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:01 am What about Yale & Loyola?
Also curious about them. But P'ton's situation is more extreme.
Princeton sneaks into #25 on the strength of their win. Yale and Loyola holding on to the top 10 based on overall resume. Teams on the upswing like Denver and Gtown just don’t have the records to supplant them yet. Their hold is tenuous based on early season results, but the committee doesn’t take dates into account.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:18 am
by Matnum PI
rolldodge wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:16 am Princeton sneaks into #25 on the strength of their win. Yale and Loyola holding on to the top 10 based on overall resume. Their hold is tenuous based on early season results, but the committee doesn’t take dates into account.
I like that.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:24 am
by Typical Lax Dad
rolldodge wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:16 am
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:11 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:01 am What about Yale & Loyola?
Also curious about them. But P'ton's situation is more extreme.
Princeton sneaks into #25 on the strength of their win. Yale and Loyola holding on to the top 10 based on overall resume. Teams on the upswing like Denver and Gtown just don’t have the records to supplant them yet. Their hold is tenuous based on early season results, but the committee doesn’t take dates into account.
I heard Quint and Anish use those same words last night…..Funny how they couldn’t stop blabbering about how ND should have made the tournament last year because they came on strong…. A blue blood….

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:25 am
by Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:24 am
rolldodge wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:16 am
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:11 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:01 am What about Yale & Loyola?
Also curious about them. But P'ton's situation is more extreme.
Princeton sneaks into #25 on the strength of their win. Yale and Loyola holding on to the top 10 based on overall resume. Teams on the upswing like Denver and Gtown just don’t have the records to supplant them yet. Their hold is tenuous based on early season results, but the committee doesn’t take dates into account.
I heard Quint and Anish use those same words last night…..Funny how they couldn’t stop blabbering about how ND should have made the tournament last year because they came on strong…. A blue blood….
At large selections discussions always turn into pick your variable
To emphasize and pound it

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:32 am
by rolldodge
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:14 am
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:11 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:01 am What about Yale & Loyola?
Also curious about them. But P'ton's situation is more extreme.
Even with their wins and Brandau I don’t see how one can truly rank Yale having given up 43 goals in their last two games.
In my analysis, there is a sizable gap between the resumes of 1-5 and 6-10. Its just that other teams below (that are on the upswing) haven't had the time yet to build up the record to supplant them.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:49 am
by ICGrad
rolldodge wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:16 am Princeton sneaks into #25 on the strength of their win. Yale and Loyola holding on to the top 10 based on overall resume. Teams on the upswing like Denver and Gtown just don’t have the records to supplant them yet. Their hold is tenuous based on early season results, but the committee doesn’t take dates into account.
Yale in the top 10?!? They barely made my poll at all...

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:52 am
by laxjuris
ICGrad wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:49 am
rolldodge wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:16 am Princeton sneaks into #25 on the strength of their win. Yale and Loyola holding on to the top 10 based on overall resume. Teams on the upswing like Denver and Gtown just don’t have the records to supplant them yet. Their hold is tenuous based on early season results, but the committee doesn’t take dates into account.
Yale in the top 10?!? They barely made my poll at all...
Yale right now is a train wreck. Nowhere close to top 10, and maybe barely in the 20-25 range.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:52 am
by Typical Lax Dad
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:14 am
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:11 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:01 am What about Yale & Loyola?
Also curious about them. But P'ton's situation is more extreme.
Even with their wins and Brandau I don’t see how one can truly rank Yale having given up 43 goals in their last two games.
Cornell - 101 Goals For / 68 Goals Against / SOS 9
Princeton - 95 Goals For / 75 Goals Against / SOS 11
Dartmouth - 94 Goals For / 83 Goals Against / SOS 56
Brown - 92 Goals For / 87 Goals Against / SOS 27
Harvard - 95 Goals For / 97 Goals Against / SOS 17
Yale - 80 Goals For / 88 Goals Against / SOS 1 (Yale has played 6 games whereas the others have played 7)
Penn - 72 Goals For / 83 Goals Against / SOS 2

Cornell has been playing at a high level on both sides of the ball against good competition.

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:00 am
by Matnum PI
ICGrad wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:49 am Yale in the top 10?!? They barely made my poll at all...
If that's the case, where do you have Villanova, Denver, and UMass. Where do you have P'ton, their worst loss?

Re: FanLax Forum Poll

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:04 am
by rolldodge
ICGrad wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:49 am
rolldodge wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:16 am Princeton sneaks into #25 on the strength of their win. Yale and Loyola holding on to the top 10 based on overall resume. Teams on the upswing like Denver and Gtown just don’t have the records to supplant them yet. Their hold is tenuous based on early season results, but the committee doesn’t take dates into account.
Yale in the top 10?!? They barely made my poll at all...
They have a top 10 RPI win over Villanova, a top 15 RPI win over Denver and a top 30 RPI (almost top 20) win over UMass. Two of their 3 losses are to top 10 RPI teams. My system is biased toward "big wins".