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Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:02 am
by Typical Lax Dad
Good morning great citizens, The President of The United States of America is hard at work for you:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 21698?s=21

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:05 am
by Typical Lax Dad
It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day in the neighborhood would you be mine?....could you be mine?

https://www.axios.com/trump-white-house ... 529c9.html

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:06 am
by Matnum PI
He's a strange dude...
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
36m
THE DEMOCRATS DUMPED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BALLOTS IN THE SWING STATES LATE IN THE EVENING. IT WAS A RIGGED ELECTION!!!

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:13 am
by MDlaxfan76
jhu72 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:58 pm Finally, a case of voter fraud that sticks. A Pennsylvania man voted for Trump, using his dead mother's registration. Got caught, because the state knows who is dead and not dead. Out on $100,000 bail.

So stupid these Trumpnista are. :roll:
oops

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am
by Matnum PI
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:03 am
by MDlaxfan76
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA
Good. These a-holes deserve to lose their licenses to practice.
And to pay the State's (taxpayer's) costs.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:21 am
by Matnum PI
stating the obvious but i'm going to do it anyway... what always amazed and amazes me about trump, this includes trump pre-politics as well, is that while everyone else is saying, I abused my power. trump says, there's no such thing as an abuse of power. etc. trump doesn't say, i committed a crime or even i didn't commit a crime. trump says, there is no crime, that isn't a law. and, over time, people who share his perspective have expressed the same and other people have adopted his perspective. a strange and horrible change in america. breaking laws isn't new. ignoring laws, at this level, is relatively new. i know a lot of people who live by "if you're not cheating, you're not trying". but even that is different than how trump and the people who follow his perspectives live. laws, especially in a country like the US, are critical. that a devaluation of laws has occurred is a major problem.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am
by cradleandshoot
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:03 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA
Good. These a-holes deserve to lose their licenses to practice.
And to pay the State's (taxpayer's) costs.
Spoken like the true FLP democrat that you are. MD you are the poster child for how totally f***ed up the republican party is. Your a life long Richard Nixon loving Rockefeller blue blood republican. You think that by sucking up to all your FLP friends here on this forum that they will love and respect you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: You and Mittens have sooooo much in common. Grow yourself some balls MD. If your gonna claim to be a republican at least act like one on occasion. You don't have to be support all your FLP friends here all the time. It is okay if you actually pretend to be a conservative once in awhile. ;)

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:53 am
by MDlaxfan76
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:03 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA
Good. These a-holes deserve to lose their licenses to practice.
And to pay the State's (taxpayer's) costs.
Spoken like the true FLP democrat that you are. MD you are the poster child for how totally f***ed up the republican party is. Your a life long Richard Nixon loving Rockefeller blue blood republican. You think that by sucking up to all your FLP friends here on this forum that they will love and respect you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
ok, you need YOUR second cup of coffee. ;)

No, I think the shameless, dishonest attack on our democracy deserves tough reprobation. I could care less whether the lawyers are GOP or Dem.

Since when does defending democracy make one FLP???
God help us...

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:10 am
by cradleandshoot
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:53 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:03 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA
Good. These a-holes deserve to lose their licenses to practice.
And to pay the State's (taxpayer's) costs.
Spoken like the true FLP democrat that you are. MD you are the poster child for how totally f***ed up the republican party is. Your a life long Richard Nixon loving Rockefeller blue blood republican. You think that by sucking up to all your FLP friends here on this forum that they will love and respect you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
ok, you need YOUR second cup of coffee. ;)

No, I think the shameless, dishonest attack on our democracy deserves tough reprobation. I could care less whether the lawyers are GOP or Dem.

Since when does defending democracy make one FLP???
God help us...
I am working on my 3rd cup of coffee. When are you ever going to defend your own party? I'm not the lifelong Nixon/Agnew republican here... you are skippy. You seem to be 100% clueless that your arguments support the democrats. You have never once to my knowledge defended your own party that you claim a lifelong allegiance to. Maybe you need to consult your brother in law you have locked in your basement. The solution to you MD is really very simple. Why keep bullchitting all of us by claiming you are a Republican. Do what you should have done a long time ago... change your party affiliation to democrat. If you claim to represent mainstream republican ideology you are feeding everybody on this forum an industrial strength line of bullchit. If I was to be a republican i would never accept your viewpoint. If i was to accept your point of view why would i not just become a FLP democrat.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:14 am
by foreverlax
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:03 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA
Good. These a-holes deserve to lose their licenses to practice.
And to pay the State's (taxpayer's) costs.
Spoken like the true FLP democrat that you are. MD you are the poster child for how totally f***ed up the republican party is. Your a life long Richard Nixon loving Rockefeller blue blood republican. You think that by sucking up to all your FLP friends here on this forum that they will love and respect you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: You and Mittens have sooooo much in common. Grow yourself some balls MD. If your gonna claim to be a republican at least act like one on occasion. You don't have to be support all your FLP friends here all the time. It is okay if you actually pretend to be a conservative once in awhile. ;)
Seriously -

What would you call yourself?

Why?

Which things do you see differently the MD?

Why do you "hate" Mitt so much?

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:17 am
by foreverlax
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:10 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:53 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:03 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA
Good. These a-holes deserve to lose their licenses to practice.
And to pay the State's (taxpayer's) costs.
Spoken like the true FLP democrat that you are. MD you are the poster child for how totally f***ed up the republican party is. Your a life long Richard Nixon loving Rockefeller blue blood republican. You think that by sucking up to all your FLP friends here on this forum that they will love and respect you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
ok, you need YOUR second cup of coffee. ;)

No, I think the shameless, dishonest attack on our democracy deserves tough reprobation. I could care less whether the lawyers are GOP or Dem.

Since when does defending democracy make one FLP???
God help us...
I am working on my 3rd cup of coffee. When are you ever going to defend your own party? I'm not the lifelong Nixon/Agnew republican here... you are skippy. You seem to be 100% clueless that your arguments support the democrats. You have never once to my knowledge defended your own party that you claim a lifelong allegiance to. Maybe you need to consult your brother in law you have locked in your basement. The solution to you MD is really very simple. Why keep bullchitting all of us by claiming you are a Republican. Do what you should have done a long time ago... change your party affiliation to democrat. If you claim to represent mainstream republican ideology you are feeding everybody on this forum an industrial strength line of bullchit. If I was to be a republican i would never accept your viewpoint. If i was to accept your point of view why would i not just become a FLP democrat.
I see MD where I am....

I support some of the Ds ideas and some of the Rs.

What I don't support is how the Rs have given up their soul to support Trump....there is very little "conservative": about Trump's actions - other than judges.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:26 am
by MDlaxfan76
foreverlax wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:17 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:10 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:53 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:03 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA
Good. These a-holes deserve to lose their licenses to practice.
And to pay the State's (taxpayer's) costs.
Spoken like the true FLP democrat that you are. MD you are the poster child for how totally f***ed up the republican party is. Your a life long Richard Nixon loving Rockefeller blue blood republican. You think that by sucking up to all your FLP friends here on this forum that they will love and respect you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
ok, you need YOUR second cup of coffee. ;)

No, I think the shameless, dishonest attack on our democracy deserves tough reprobation. I could care less whether the lawyers are GOP or Dem.

Since when does defending democracy make one FLP???
God help us...
I am working on my 3rd cup of coffee. When are you ever going to defend your own party? I'm not the lifelong Nixon/Agnew republican here... you are skippy. You seem to be 100% clueless that your arguments support the democrats. You have never once to my knowledge defended your own party that you claim a lifelong allegiance to. Maybe you need to consult your brother in law you have locked in your basement. The solution to you MD is really very simple. Why keep bullchitting all of us by claiming you are a Republican. Do what you should have done a long time ago... change your party affiliation to democrat. If you claim to represent mainstream republican ideology you are feeding everybody on this forum an industrial strength line of bullchit. If I was to be a republican i would never accept your viewpoint. If i was to accept your point of view why would i not just become a FLP democrat.
I see MD where I am....

I support some of the Ds ideas and some of the Rs.

What I don't support is how the Rs have given up their soul to support Trump....there is very little "conservative": about Trump's actions - other than judges.
And the judges described by some as "conservative" has actually skewed to 'activist' and 'ideological' versus 'conservative. As I'm relatively progressive/libertarian socially, the ideological bent of many of these appointments, as well as the lack of actual qualifications as jurists of some, are also different from my more traditional GOP preferences.

I have no idea why cradle is so personally vitriolic about all this...maybe he sees this stuff as Red Team v Blue Team, and if I disagree with something a Trumpist does, I'm a traitor to the Red Team?

I don't see things through that lens.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:52 am
by calourie
https://www.yahoo.com/news/weve-finally ... 00203.html

I was discussing this with my wife last night. My guess is January 6 is the day the republican party irreversibly splits into two parts, Trumplicans and Neorepublicans. In my thinking a petulant Trump takes at least half of his 74,000,000 voters with him in his post POTUS effort to maintain relevancy, and this group will have an overweighted influence on the 2022 primaries. Good luck to what remains of a serious republican party to counteract that.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:10 pm
by CU88
Most powerful man in the world is a petulant little..

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:30 pm
by foreverlax
calourie wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:52 am https://www.yahoo.com/news/weve-finally ... 00203.html

I was discussing this with my wife last night. My guess is January 6 is the day the republican party irreversibly splits into two parts, Trumplicans and Neorepublicans. In my thinking a petulant Trump takes at least half of his 74,000,000 voters with him in his post POTUS effort to maintain relevancy, and this group will have an overweighted influence on the 2022 primaries. Good luck to what remains of a serious republican party to counteract that.
I've always had the number around 25 million - true lovers of Trump and all the fringe players. i.e. his base.

I was shocked at the total number of votes he got this time, if the EC was proportional, Biden got 272...so either his base is way bigger or there are some that won't vote for a D, period.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:36 pm
by holmes435
foreverlax wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:30 pm
calourie wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:52 am https://www.yahoo.com/news/weve-finally ... 00203.html

I was discussing this with my wife last night. My guess is January 6 is the day the republican party irreversibly splits into two parts, Trumplicans and Neorepublicans. In my thinking a petulant Trump takes at least half of his 74,000,000 voters with him in his post POTUS effort to maintain relevancy, and this group will have an overweighted influence on the 2022 primaries. Good luck to what remains of a serious republican party to counteract that.
I've always had the number around 25 million - true lovers of Trump and all the fringe players. i.e. his base.

I was shocked at the total number of votes he got this time, if the EC was proportional, Biden got 272...so either his base is way bigger or there are some that won't vote for a D, period.
IMHO his base has grown since the 25-30% days of the 2016 primaries, but it's nowhere near 48% of the voting populace. It's definitely much more the "hold my nose and vote" group that got him the numbers. People who won't vote for a D in the foreseeable future no matter what their platform is. That's what 30+ years of right wing talk radio and Fox's "us vs. them" mentality has gotten us.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:38 pm
by a fan
calourie wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:52 am https://www.yahoo.com/news/weve-finally ... 00203.html

I was discussing this with my wife last night. My guess is January 6 is the day the republican party irreversibly splits into two parts, Trumplicans and Neorepublicans..
Disagree. Trump owns the Republican voters until someone steps up and says "enough".

That hasn't happened. And I very much doubt it will happen any time soon.

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:39 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
holmes435 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:36 pm
foreverlax wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:30 pm
calourie wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:52 am https://www.yahoo.com/news/weve-finally ... 00203.html

I was discussing this with my wife last night. My guess is January 6 is the day the republican party irreversibly splits into two parts, Trumplicans and Neorepublicans. In my thinking a petulant Trump takes at least half of his 74,000,000 voters with him in his post POTUS effort to maintain relevancy, and this group will have an overweighted influence on the 2022 primaries. Good luck to what remains of a serious republican party to counteract that.
I've always had the number around 25 million - true lovers of Trump and all the fringe players. i.e. his base.

I was shocked at the total number of votes he got this time, if the EC was proportional, Biden got 272...so either his base is way bigger or there are some that won't vote for a D, period.
IMHO his base has grown since the 25-30% days of the 2016 primaries, but it's nowhere near 48% of the voting populace. It's definitely much more the "hold my nose and vote" group that got him the numbers. People who won't vote for a D in the foreseeable future no matter what their platform is. That's what 30+ years of right wing talk radio and Fox's "us vs. them" mentality has gotten us.
Is there an “left wing radio” equivalent? I don’t know if there is such a thing? If so, far less of a presence on talk radio?

Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:41 pm
by cradleandshoot
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:26 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:17 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:10 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:53 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:03 am
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:51 am Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the state's election results with claims that featured "intentional misrepresentations."
bit.ly/37FHRBA
Good. These a-holes deserve to lose their licenses to practice.
And to pay the State's (taxpayer's) costs.
Spoken like the true FLP democrat that you are. MD you are the poster child for how totally f***ed up the republican party is. Your a life long Richard Nixon loving Rockefeller blue blood republican. You think that by sucking up to all your FLP friends here on this forum that they will love and respect you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
ok, you need YOUR second cup of coffee. ;)

No, I think the shameless, dishonest attack on our democracy deserves tough reprobation. I could care less whether the lawyers are GOP or Dem.

Since when does defending democracy make one FLP???
God help us...
I am working on my 3rd cup of coffee. When are you ever going to defend your own party? I'm not the lifelong Nixon/Agnew republican here... you are skippy. You seem to be 100% clueless that your arguments support the democrats. You have never once to my knowledge defended your own party that you claim a lifelong allegiance to. Maybe you need to consult your brother in law you have locked in your basement. The solution to you MD is really very simple. Why keep bullchitting all of us by claiming you are a Republican. Do what you should have done a long time ago... change your party affiliation to democrat. If you claim to represent mainstream republican ideology you are feeding everybody on this forum an industrial strength line of bullchit. If I was to be a republican i would never accept your viewpoint. If i was to accept your point of view why would i not just become a FLP democrat.
I see MD where I am....

I support some of the Ds ideas and some of the Rs.

What I don't support is how the Rs have given up their soul to support Trump....there is very little "conservative": about Trump's actions - other than judges.
And the judges described by some as "conservative" has actually skewed to 'activist' and 'ideological' versus 'conservative. As I'm relatively progressive/libertarian socially, the ideological bent of many of these appointments, as well as the lack of actual qualifications as jurists of some, are also different from my more traditional GOP preferences.

I have no idea why cradle is so personally vitriolic about all this...maybe he sees this stuff as Red Team v Blue Team, and if I disagree with something a Trumpist does, I'm a traitor to the Red Team?

I don't see things through that lens.
"I don't see things through that lens."

So you have not paid attention to the lens your FLP friends view this discussion through?

Dude my vitriol is based on your own fragmented inconsistency of your own republican ideology. I know a lot of Republicans, you do not fit the mold of any of them in any way shape or form. So if I know 20 hard core republicans that 100% would disagree with you and your beliefs you would want me to believe that your perception of what the republican party should be is the correct version. My best friend who now lives in South Carolina is also from a family of life long republicans. You two folks don't even remotely resemble being from the same planet much less the same political party. You don't seem to have the slightest clue why that discrepancy in political ideology would bother me. Are you even in touch with what your own party believes? If you want to be an outlier in your own party you should not be surprised if people question you. I know enough about mainstream republican beliefs to understand you are waaaaaaay on the fringes of what the majority of republicans believe. If you are comfortable where your at that is fine with me. By and large you republicans are so f***ed up as a political party then nothing you say should surprise me. :roll: