Re: 2020 Elections - A Reckoning
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:05 pm
Same Party, Different House
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This has been posted many times on multiple threads, but Trumpistas can't read or watch it???6ftstick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:25 ama fan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:19 amThis is new from you. So Kush & Co. didn't meet with a Russians spy, looking for dirt on Hillary? That didn't happen?
I know you don't care, and that's fine. But you know this happened. They TRIED to work with Russia.
What did the Mueller report find? Come on you can say it. Youu might choke on it but what dod the report find.
Because he didn't pass the immigration reform bill he promised, remember? You don't care that he didn't, and that's par for the course, but that's why.
Odd, you didn't feel that way when unemployment dropped every year Obama was in office. Neither did FoxNation. instead, they pointed at the workforce participation rate.
You're stuck now. You telling me that Obama improved the lives of millions and millions of Americans since he took office, and they were put back to work? Uh-oh. You're going to lose your "I hate Obama" membership card over this.
Obama took office in 2008 in 2013 participation in the workforce was the lowest it had been since 1978 FACT
Not remotely true. Economy is doing great. My issue is with WHY the economy is doing great.
Trump got us here by borrowing Trillions, spending most of it on stuff we don't need, and handing the bill to our kids. You don't care, because you're a fake conservative. That's fine. Your prerogative.
The Federal Government is bigger than ever. And you're applauding. It's hilarious, if you ask me. Turns out the values you had a few years ago don't matter----you're getting paid, and that's all that matters.
++++++++1ggait wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:23 pmYup.And McConnell would have been insisting on deficit reduction, so we wouldn't have had even one of the four big spending bills passed. No major bills of any kind, actually.
We would be in MUCH better financial shape if HRC had won. No stupid tax cuts. No dumb spending bills. Economy would have kept on trucking just like it had been under Obama/Boehner-Ryan/McConnell. Back when we had reasonable taxes (certainly lower than ideal but tolerable) and muted spending increases (certainly higher than ideal but also tolerable).
When it comes to deficits and spending, the only formula that works is a D president and a Congress controlled (at least one chamber) by the GOP. Clinton/Gingrich. Obama/Boehner-Ryan/McConnell.
None of the other combos work. #facts
P.S. We REALLY would be in better financial shape if also Gore had won in 2000 -- Gore/Hastert/Daschle-Lott-Frist.
If you put Trumpfans in a room with their peers and turn a camera on them that they know would air somewhere, 100% of them would admit that what Trump and Co. did surrounding Russia----and all the non stop lying they were caught doing----was wrong, and not ok.CU88 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:07 pm This has been posted many times on multiple threads, but Trumpistas can't read or watch it???
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/all-o ... 30-minutes
Show me a politician that does not lie. That would be truly remarkable.a fan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:15 pmIf you put Trumpfans in a room with their peers and turn a camera on them that they know would air somewhere, 100% of them would admit that what Trump and Co. did surrounding Russia----and all the non stop lying they were caught doing----was wrong, and not ok.CU88 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:07 pm This has been posted many times on multiple threads, but Trumpistas can't read or watch it???
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/all-o ... 30-minutes
But here on the internet where they can dodge any question they'd like? They'll NEVER admit that Trump did bad things. At best, you'll get "whataboutHillary?"
It's so childish. It's like they think they'll get cooties for acknowledging that a politician lies, and that they don't like being lied to.
I'm am not sure Trump understand the truth from a lie. It all just comes out of his mouth and 5 minutes later he he doesn't know what he said anyways. He reminds me of some of the pathalogically lying salespeople that work for our company. They will say anything or do anything they have to to move product. When you call them on it... I NEVER SAID THAT!
How would you define most people and what is your measure of doing well?youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:49 pm It's because most people are doing well right now...we have been programmed by marketing that we feel good when we have "things" and enough of them to keep us (pre)occupied along with a more discretionary savings account as compared to years past. Our memories are short and our selfishness is vast.
Said a different way....people do not really give a dump about Trump, so long as their lives are comfortable. Almost like how the liberal democrats have treated most, if not all, large inner cities.
It's certainly a fair question as to whether he knows he's lying or not. Most serial liars and con men do actually know, but quite a few feel no empathy with those deceived. There's indeed something 'pathological' about that. That seems to be more likely than truly clueless.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:48 pmI'm am not sure Trump understand the truth from a lie. It all just comes out of his mouth and 5 minutes later he he doesn't know what he said anyways. He reminds me of some of the pathalogically lying salespeople that work for our company. They will say anything or do anything they have to to move product. When you call them on it... I NEVER SAID THAT!
Most people = Working, feeling an accomplishment of some contribution to society.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 pm How would you define most people and what is your measure of doing well?
Come on C&S. We all know that Trump is outrageously far away from normal/typical.Show me a politician that does not lie. That would be truly remarkable.
But most people didn't feel that way in 2015 and 2016?youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:11 pmMost people = Working, feeling an accomplishment of some contribution to society.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 pm How would you define most people and what is your measure of doing well?
Doing Well = Waking up each day feeling optimistic that I can contribute, do my part, help others, and feed my family because I labored for it. In no particular order.
Most usually comes with a numerical reference point that is at least 50.1% of the whole. Not sure you defined it but I will assume that is what you mean by most. It would be hard to argue that most employees feel fat dumb and happy when 40% are one missed paycheck away from poverty.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:11 pmMost people = Working, feeling an accomplishment of some contribution to society.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 pm How would you define most people and what is your measure of doing well?
Doing Well = Waking up each day feeling optimistic that I can contribute, do my part, help others, and feed my family because I labored for it. In no particular order.
Trump was the only one shielded from indictment. There was supposed to be a conspiracy. It takes more than one person to form a conspiracy. No co-conspirators were indicted. All the rest is chaff & white noise.But hey, that's cool, he wasn't indicted.
But then again, Mueller made clear that he couldn't indict a sitting President, but that Trump could be indicted once he left office. Went out of his way to make that point.
I do not believe the same feeling was had pre 2016. We were still shutting the doors of the recession and people were still hesitant/leery or the recovery.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:18 pmBut most people didn't feel that way in 2015 and 2016?youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:11 pmMost people = Working, feeling an accomplishment of some contribution to society.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 pm How would you define most people and what is your measure of doing well?
Doing Well = Waking up each day feeling optimistic that I can contribute, do my part, help others, and feed my family because I labored for it. In no particular order.
That was your implication, right?
Fair point. Curious what that 40% number has looked like over the past decade? I would have guessed that number was higher.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:29 pmMost usually comes with a numerical reference point that is at least 50.1% of the whole. Not sure you defined it but I will assume that is what you mean by most. It would be hard to argue that most employees feel fat dumb and happy when 40% are one missed paycheck away from poverty.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:11 pmMost people = Working, feeling an accomplishment of some contribution to society.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 pm How would you define most people and what is your measure of doing well?
Doing Well = Waking up each day feeling optimistic that I can contribute, do my part, help others, and feed my family because I labored for it. In no particular order.
https://www.kq2.com/content/news/Millio ... 94811.html
youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:46 pmFair point. Curious what that 40% number has looked like over the past decade? I would have guessed that number was higher.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:29 pmMost usually comes with a numerical reference point that is at least 50.1% of the whole. Not sure you defined it but I will assume that is what you mean by most. It would be hard to argue that most employees feel fat dumb and happy when 40% are one missed paycheck away from poverty.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:11 pmMost people = Working, feeling an accomplishment of some contribution to society.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:58 pm How would you define most people and what is your measure of doing well?
Doing Well = Waking up each day feeling optimistic that I can contribute, do my part, help others, and feed my family because I labored for it. In no particular order.
https://www.kq2.com/content/news/Millio ... 94811.html