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DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:19 am What many have feared ... world’s first confirmed case of novel coronavirus re-reinfection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... y-n1237840

This suggests that for some or many (or most or all?) people, any immunity through infection/recovery or vaccination will be temporary.

Not good.

DocBarrister

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:31 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:24 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:19 am What many have feared ... world’s first confirmed case of novel coronavirus re-reinfection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... y-n1237840

This suggests that for some or many (or most or all?) people, any immunity through infection/recovery or vaccination will be temporary.

Not good.

DocBarrister

One possible implication ... we may face a future requiring constant vigilance against this virus. Meaning, repeated vaccinations and occasional isolations and shutdowns when local outbreaks occur.

DocBarrister

Doc left out the quiet part of his post: "until November 3rd"

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:24 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:19 am What many have feared ... world’s first confirmed case of novel coronavirus re-reinfection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... y-n1237840

This suggests that for some or many (or most or all?) people, any immunity through infection/recovery or vaccination will be temporary.

Not good.

DocBarrister

One possible implication ... we may face a future requiring constant vigilance against this virus. Meaning, repeated vaccinations and occasional isolations and shutdowns when local outbreaks occur.

DocBarrister

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:14 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:24 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:19 am What many have feared ... world’s first confirmed case of novel coronavirus re-reinfection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... y-n1237840

This suggests that for some or many (or most or all?) people, any immunity through infection/recovery or vaccination will be temporary.

Not good.

DocBarrister

One possible implication ... we may face a future requiring constant vigilance against this virus. Meaning, repeated vaccinations and occasional isolations and shutdowns when local outbreaks occur.

DocBarrister

Read what the article stated,the patient was asymptomatic the throughout the re-infection. Its likely that the his immune system having familiarity with the virus prevented him/her from experiencing any symptoms. This is a rather extremist take, there is nothing that is NOT good about it. Reinfection does not and rarely has to be associated with worse symptoms. This would fly in the face of every scientific principle known to mankind. This isn't a new virus, just a very different strain of the Coronavirus family that has been around for quite a while. This post is leaving a lot of what the article said and inserting your alarmist beliefs into it. I am a casual observer of this forum, but a lot of the time its very hard to even take you serious. You are purposefully divisive, alarmist, insensitive and take things to the extreme every chance you get. I get it, you are unhappy with the current leadership in this country, but that doesn't call for some of the extreme takes that you throw out in regards to this virus. There's a lot of people unhappy with the leadership as you are, yet they don't abandon their sense of rational belief and make such divisive statements as if they are making them just to elicit some sort of response that they may seek.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:16 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:14 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:24 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:19 am What many have feared ... world’s first confirmed case of novel coronavirus re-reinfection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... y-n1237840

This suggests that for some or many (or most or all?) people, any immunity through infection/recovery or vaccination will be temporary.

Not good.

DocBarrister

One possible implication ... we may face a future requiring constant vigilance against this virus. Meaning, repeated vaccinations and occasional isolations and shutdowns when local outbreaks occur.

DocBarrister

Read what the article stated,the patient was asymptomatic the throughout the re-infection. Its likely that the his immune system having familiarity with the virus prevented him/her from experiencing any symptoms. This is a rather extremist take, there is nothing that is NOT good about it. Reinfection does not and rarely has to be associated with worse symptoms. This would fly in the face of every scientific principle known to mankind. This isn't a new virus, just a very different strain of the Coronavirus family that has been around for quite a while. This post is leaving a lot of what the article said and inserting your alarmist beliefs into it. I am a casual observer of this forum, but a lot of the time its very hard to even take you serious. You are purposefully divisive, alarmist, insensitive and take things to the extreme every chance you get. I get it, you are unhappy with the current leadership in this country, but that doesn't call for some of the extreme takes that you throw out in regards to this virus. There's a lot of people unhappy with the leadership as you are, yet they don't abandon their sense of rational belief and make such divisive statements as if they are making them just to elicit some sort of response that they may seek.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

Where did you read that this “isn’t a new virus”?

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:38 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:16 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:14 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:24 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:19 am What many have feared ... world’s first confirmed case of novel coronavirus re-reinfection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... y-n1237840

This suggests that for some or many (or most or all?) people, any immunity through infection/recovery or vaccination will be temporary.

Not good.

DocBarrister

One possible implication ... we may face a future requiring constant vigilance against this virus. Meaning, repeated vaccinations and occasional isolations and shutdowns when local outbreaks occur.

DocBarrister

Read what the article stated,the patient was asymptomatic the throughout the re-infection. Its likely that the his immune system having familiarity with the virus prevented him/her from experiencing any symptoms. This is a rather extremist take, there is nothing that is NOT good about it. Reinfection does not and rarely has to be associated with worse symptoms. This would fly in the face of every scientific principle known to mankind. This isn't a new virus, just a very different strain of the Coronavirus family that has been around for quite a while. This post is leaving a lot of what the article said and inserting your alarmist beliefs into it. I am a casual observer of this forum, but a lot of the time its very hard to even take you serious. You are purposefully divisive, alarmist, insensitive and take things to the extreme every chance you get. I get it, you are unhappy with the current leadership in this country, but that doesn't call for some of the extreme takes that you throw out in regards to this virus. There's a lot of people unhappy with the leadership as you are, yet they don't abandon their sense of rational belief and make such divisive statements as if they are making them just to elicit some sort of response that they may seek.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

Where did you read that this “isn’t a new virus”?

To clarify, I mean it is a new virus. But it comes from a family of viruses that has been in circulation for many many years. It has also proven to share some characteristics to other coronaviruses. This is all I meant.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:10 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:38 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:16 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:14 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:24 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:19 am What many have feared ... world’s first confirmed case of novel coronavirus re-reinfection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... y-n1237840

This suggests that for some or many (or most or all?) people, any immunity through infection/recovery or vaccination will be temporary.

Not good.

DocBarrister

One possible implication ... we may face a future requiring constant vigilance against this virus. Meaning, repeated vaccinations and occasional isolations and shutdowns when local outbreaks occur.

DocBarrister

Read what the article stated,the patient was asymptomatic the throughout the re-infection. Its likely that the his immune system having familiarity with the virus prevented him/her from experiencing any symptoms. This is a rather extremist take, there is nothing that is NOT good about it. Reinfection does not and rarely has to be associated with worse symptoms. This would fly in the face of every scientific principle known to mankind. This isn't a new virus, just a very different strain of the Coronavirus family that has been around for quite a while. This post is leaving a lot of what the article said and inserting your alarmist beliefs into it. I am a casual observer of this forum, but a lot of the time its very hard to even take you serious. You are purposefully divisive, alarmist, insensitive and take things to the extreme every chance you get. I get it, you are unhappy with the current leadership in this country, but that doesn't call for some of the extreme takes that you throw out in regards to this virus. There's a lot of people unhappy with the leadership as you are, yet they don't abandon their sense of rational belief and make such divisive statements as if they are making them just to elicit some sort of response that they may seek.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

Where did you read that this “isn’t a new virus”?

To clarify, I mean it is a new virus. But it comes from a family of viruses that has been in circulation for many many years. It has also proven to share some characteristics to other coronaviruses. This is all I meant.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

Ok. There are new strains to COVID-19. That is certain. I remember early on getting a text from a friend looking to downplay it. He said it was a hoax and directed me to look at a can of Lysol spray....before I bothered I asked him if it was going to list “coronavirus” as something it kills...... I told him not to pay attention to that nonsense. He came around when his daughter tested positive in New Jersey when a lot of people were dying.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:29 pm You beat me to it, Bart. Obviously, sharpshooting one small issue of Joe's entire post doesn't mean the whole thing was off base.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:46 pm Another great businessman.

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:14 am Read what the article stated,the patient was asymptomatic the throughout the re-infection. Its likely that the his immune system having familiarity with the virus prevented him/her from experiencing any symptoms. This is a rather extremist take, there is nothing that is NOT good about it. Reinfection does not and rarely has to be associated with worse symptoms. This would fly in the face of every scientific principle known to mankind. This isn't a new virus, just a very different strain of the Coronavirus family that has been around for quite a while. This post is leaving a lot of what the article said and inserting your alarmist beliefs into it. I am a casual observer of this forum, but a lot of the time its very hard to even take you serious. You are purposefully divisive, alarmist, insensitive and take things to the extreme every chance you get. I get it, you are unhappy with the current leadership in this country, but that doesn't call for some of the extreme takes that you throw out in regards to this virus. There's a lot of people unhappy with the leadership as you are, yet they don't abandon their sense of rational belief and make such divisive statements as if they are making them just to elicit some sort of response that they may seek.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

ggait wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:02 pm Very cheap, quick, frequent tests. If you do enough of these at-home tests, you can get by with meh 85% accuracy.

Would have the same impact as a vaccine. But could be deployed much sooner and with much less uncertainty.

Sounds like this would be our quickest way out of the woods.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/ ... o-vaccine/

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/08/2 ... esting.cnn

njbill wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:06 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:14 am Read what the article stated,the patient was asymptomatic the throughout the re-infection. Its likely that the his immune system having familiarity with the virus prevented him/her from experiencing any symptoms. This is a rather extremist take, there is nothing that is NOT good about it. Reinfection does not and rarely has to be associated with worse symptoms. This would fly in the face of every scientific principle known to mankind. This isn't a new virus, just a very different strain of the Coronavirus family that has been around for quite a while. This post is leaving a lot of what the article said and inserting your alarmist beliefs into it. I am a casual observer of this forum, but a lot of the time its very hard to even take you serious. You are purposefully divisive, alarmist, insensitive and take things to the extreme every chance you get. I get it, you are unhappy with the current leadership in this country, but that doesn't call for some of the extreme takes that you throw out in regards to this virus. There's a lot of people unhappy with the leadership as you are, yet they don't abandon their sense of rational belief and make such divisive statements as if they are making them just to elicit some sort of response that they may seek.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

I agree with much of your post, but you neglect to mention what I think is a rather serious issue. Those who get reinfected may have better experiences, themselves, with the disease the second time around, but I believe they are still just as contagious and, thus, can spread the disease just as easily as they could the first time. The point is (and I didn't come up with this, just repeating what I have heard or read) that if people can get reinfected (it seems they can), then if will be more difficult to reach herd immunity when members of the herd can get (and more importantly spread) the disease more than once, and maybe multiple times.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:09 pm Party over science. Don't believe Yale scientists, folks!

Also, Sweden reached herd immunity. I realize the Fanlax Dems hate to hear this, but science is science, not your Party.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/swede ... =home-page

wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:22 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:06 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:14 am Read what the article stated,the patient was asymptomatic the throughout the re-infection. Its likely that the his immune system having familiarity with the virus prevented him/her from experiencing any symptoms. This is a rather extremist take, there is nothing that is NOT good about it. Reinfection does not and rarely has to be associated with worse symptoms. This would fly in the face of every scientific principle known to mankind. This isn't a new virus, just a very different strain of the Coronavirus family that has been around for quite a while. This post is leaving a lot of what the article said and inserting your alarmist beliefs into it. I am a casual observer of this forum, but a lot of the time its very hard to even take you serious. You are purposefully divisive, alarmist, insensitive and take things to the extreme every chance you get. I get it, you are unhappy with the current leadership in this country, but that doesn't call for some of the extreme takes that you throw out in regards to this virus. There's a lot of people unhappy with the leadership as you are, yet they don't abandon their sense of rational belief and make such divisive statements as if they are making them just to elicit some sort of response that they may seek.

Go Twins,
JoeMauer89!

I agree with much of your post, but you neglect to mention what I think is a rather serious issue. Those who get reinfected may have better experiences, themselves, with the disease the second time around, but I believe they are still just as contagious and, thus, can spread the disease just as easily as they could the first time. The point is (and I didn't come up with this, just repeating what I have heard or read) that if people can get reinfected (it seems they can), then if will be more difficult to reach herd immunity when members of the herd can get (and more importantly spread) the disease more than once, and maybe multiple times.

i take it this is just guesswork based on other viruses or coronaviruses ?