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old salt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:02 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:40 pm Which is why, in part, they want to hammer the places that are shooting the missiles, and launching attacks.

Which is why, I'd imagine, US forces are moving in.

So far, I think it's primarily for BMD (Ballistic Missile Defense) to help knock out the long range, heavy payload, ballistic missiles launched by Hezbollah in Lebanon or directly from Iran, using interceptor missiles launched from the vertical launch tubes of all the USN destroyers & cruisers now there or headed that way, as part of the carrier strike groups.

You seem eager to have us help…..how much is it going to costs us?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:41 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:02 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:40 pm Which is why, in part, they want to hammer the places that are shooting the missiles, and launching attacks.

Which is why, I'd imagine, US forces are moving in.

So far, I think it's primarily for BMD (Ballistic Missile Defense) to help knock out the long range, heavy payload, ballistic missiles launched by Hezbollah in Lebanon or directly from Iran, using interceptor missiles launched from the vertical launch tubes of all the USN destroyers & cruisers now there or headed that way, as part of the carrier strike groups.

You seem eager to have us help…..how much is it going to costs us?

Why do you think I am eager ? I am pointing out why I think we are there. I hope our presence will deter our need to be there.

No extra costs if no launches. Previously scheduled deployments.

Looks like those previously "confirmed" reports of Hamas beheading babies are now being retracted. I knew that it couldn't be since it would be a violation of the Koran. By contrast, the Bible teaches that you can do even worse things to babies.

Getting messy. I hope the US doesn't get too embroiled in this. And seeing as how we can't even agree domestically on shared interests...

“Nations do not have permanent friends or enemies, only interests.”

-- John Henry Temple

With its huge land area, varied topography and heterogeneous, ethnically and culturally, population, the US could really be seen as a collection of different "countries" whose unity waxes and wanes.

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:35 am Looks like those previously "confirmed" reports of Hamas beheading babies are now being retracted. I knew that it couldn't be since it would be a violation of the Koran. By contrast, the Bible teaches that you can do even worse things to babies.

Two questions:
1- Do you know how Hamas killed the babies? Did they slit their throats but didn't actually cut off their heads?
2- I haven't heard of the Jewish Bible allowing the murder of babies but I have heard about Jews using baby blood as an essential ingredient in the making of their matza for Passover. Are these two things connected?

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:35 am
Two questions:
1- Do you know how Hamas killed the babies? Did they slit their throats but didn't actually cut off their heads?
2- I haven't heard of the Jewish Bible allowing the murder of babies but I have heard about Jews using baby blood as an essential ingredient in the making of their matza for Passover. Are these two things connected?

There's an old story that when it comes to war, truth is the first casualty. As with the fairy tale about Gulf of Tonkin and imaginary WMD, people have allowed themselves to be fooled again.

Old Testament Bible allows murder of children in 1 Samuel 15:3. That matza nonsense has about as much credibility as a Republican running for political office.

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:35 am

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:35 am Looks like those previously "confirmed" reports of Hamas beheading babies are now being retracted. I knew that it couldn't be since it would be a violation of the Koran. By contrast, the Bible teaches that you can do even worse things to babies.

Two questions:
1- Do you know how Hamas killed the babies? Did they slit their throats but didn't actually cut off their heads?
2- I haven't heard of the Jewish Bible allowing the murder of babies but I have heard about Jews using baby blood as an essential ingredient in the making of their matza for Passover. Are these two things connected?

Pretty sure your second is an infamous “blood libel.”

Not true, and does nothing to further this discussion. In fact, it is emblematic of the long history of anti-jewish behavior that has contributed hugely to the predicament all of us find ourselves in.

So, please stop.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:53 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:02 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:41 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:38 am You now seem to agree there was a "massive intel failure".

NOW ??? I never asserted or implied that it was anything less than a massive intel failure. That is obvious, based on events.

You're making a big deal about my use of the word "trust". I don't think Bibi trusted Hamas to be an honest broker.
He accepted the results of the one & only election & did not launch an all out war to topple Hamas. He never had sufficient intl support for that.
Instead, he "mowed the grass" when forced to do so. He never had an honest broker to work with & neither has any other Israeli leader.

The first exchange we had was about this statement you made:

"Bibi & Israel's other leaders wanted peace so badly, they were tricked into thinking they could trust Hamas.
They were fooled by a very sophisticated disinfo op (see the NYT analyis posted earlier)."

I focused on the "wanted peace so badly" part. That's nonsense. The right wing policies under him pushed settlements displacing Palestinians, with violent support from the IDF as necessary. That ain't "wanted peace so badly".

As we subsequently discussed, the government's policy under Bibi has focused on suppression and subjugation, displacement, ghettoization, and more subjugation. That ain't "wanted peace so badly".

But the Netanyahu policies removed any hope at all for any future for Palestinian self-determination and prosperity. None. Land being increasingly gobbled up by Israeli right wing encroachment. Violently.

Again, your explanation was that "Bibi & Israel's other leaders wanted peace so badly, they were tricked into thinking they could trust Hamas. "

Nonsense.

As usual, you ignored my wider point, & joined your fellow political hacks to launch into a screed aimed at Bibi.
Bibi is hardly the only Israeli leader since Hamas came to power in 2006 who attempted to co-exist with Hamas rather than try to destroy them via military force. ...as if a peaceful resolution with the PLO, Hamas or the PLA was ever a rational prospect.

There's no valid wider point. The current government turned even harder right with the most recent elections, eliminating any even pretense of desire for a two state solution. That's who the leadership has been since 2022. But Netanyahu was clearly only giving paltry lip service prior to that election, as he continuously supported settlement building in the West Bank, the slow erosion of hope for a Palestinian state alongside Israel. And he's been Prime Minister for more than a decade. And a force for 3 decades.

You want to argue about Palestinian leadership? Try Brooklyn.
IMO, the Palestinians have been disastrously led for many decades.

But a large portion of the Palestinian civilians hate Hamas and its ilk. They rule through internal terror. And compete for a "nationalist" appeal through focus on their external enemy, Israel. The worse they hurt Israel, and the worse Israel treats Palestinians in return, the greater their claim for leadership.
A disastrous dynamic.

And, regardless of leadership and the effects of propaganda, the moral reality of the Palestinian cause is real.

You simply can't validly claim that the intel failures were because Bibi and the rest of the current leaders in power wanted peace so badly they were tricked into believing Hamas wanted peace too. Tricked into thinking they had less capability, sure, but not intent. The current leadership, including Bibi,
have hardened views about Hamas...with sound reason IMO. But they conflate that hardened view with Palestinians in general.

I listened to the ex head of Israel's intel a day ago...he said that there are 150,000 Hamas operatives in Gaza, among its 500,000 supporters. But there are 2.2 million people there.

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:35 am Looks like those previously "confirmed" reports of Hamas beheading babies are now being retracted. I knew that it couldn't be since it would be a violation of the Koran. By contrast, the Bible teaches that you can do even worse things to babies.

sheesh, Brooklyn, do you think Islamic terrorists don't violate the Koran when it serves their purpose?
The 9-11 terrorists drank alcohol, etc...and btw, the Koran, like the Bible, calls for the protection of innocents not their murder. Twist that to declare there are no innocents is an evil interpretation, but that's what people will do for their own ends. But it's not what the sacred texts actually 'teach'.

And what is "worse things to do to babies" than cutting off their heads that the Bible allows? Huh?

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:54 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:41 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:02 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:40 pm Which is why, in part, they want to hammer the places that are shooting the missiles, and launching attacks.

Which is why, I'd imagine, US forces are moving in.

So far, I think it's primarily for BMD (Ballistic Missile Defense) to help knock out the long range, heavy payload, ballistic missiles launched by Hezbollah in Lebanon or directly from Iran, using interceptor missiles launched from the vertical launch tubes of all the USN destroyers & cruisers now there or headed that way, as part of the carrier strike groups.

You seem eager to have us help…..how much is it going to costs us?

Why do you think I am eager ? I am pointing out why I think we are there. I hope our presence will deter our need to be there.

No extra costs if no launches. Previously scheduled deployments.

I think we all hope they deter and there's no need for us to do more.

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:45 am

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:35 am
Two questions:
1- Do you know how Hamas killed the babies? Did they slit their throats but didn't actually cut off their heads?
2- I haven't heard of the Jewish Bible allowing the murder of babies but I have heard about Jews using baby blood as an essential ingredient in the making of their matza for Passover. Are these two things connected?

There's an old story that when it comes to war, truth is the first casualty. As with the fairy tale about Gulf of Tonkin and imaginary WMD, people have allowed themselves to be fooled again.

Old Testament Bible allows murder of children in 1 Samuel 15:3. That matza nonsense has about as much credibility as a Republican running for political office.

1.yes And that's why I'm trying to get to the truth. If you can help me. I understand Hamas didn't cut of their heads. That's a truth casualty. But how did Hamas kill the Jewish babies? If you know...
2.I don't know if that's the best example. The Jews went to war repeatedly and they didn't murder babies, nor women and animals, which is why G-d telling Saul to do this was so unique. A unique demand from G-d because the Amalakites were a unique people. To this day, Jews have enemies from the past through to the present and then there's amalek. totally different animal. so G-d wanted Saul to 100% remove amalek from this world. And even with this explicit demand, Saul didn't do it. And he's punished for it. Loses his kingship. brooklyn, what i'm saying is that your example is an example of the opposite of what you're proposing. an example of the jews inability to kill babies. i might be missing something but it seems like the jews using non-jewish babies' blood for their matza is as credible as... the Jewish bible permits the killing of non-jewish babies. but wehatever. potato, potahto. beheaded a baby, slitting a baby's throat (but not beheading it). but, brooklyn, i do have to say, it strikes me as odd that *very recently*, hamas has performed innumerable atrocities, including murdering a baby and, to this, you say, Casualties of the truth! And then you quickly follow-up with a thousands year old text (that you're misinterpretting) to accuse the Jews of literally the same atrocity that was just done by hamas. does this not strike you as starnge?

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:08 am

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:35 am

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:35 am Looks like those previously "confirmed" reports of Hamas beheading babies are now being retracted. I knew that it couldn't be since it would be a violation of the Koran. By contrast, the Bible teaches that you can do even worse things to babies.

Two questions:
1- Do you know how Hamas killed the babies? Did they slit their throats but didn't actually cut off their heads?
2- I haven't heard of the Jewish Bible allowing the murder of babies but I have heard about Jews using baby blood as an essential ingredient in the making of their matza for Passover. Are these two things connected?

Pretty sure your second is an infamous “blood libel.”

Not true, and does nothing to further this discussion. In fact, it is emblematic of the long history of anti-jewish behavior that has contributed hugely to the predicament all of us find ourselves in.

So, please stop.

blood libel! that was it! thank you... totally anti-jewish behavior based on not just lies but a lie that is so the opposite of jewish values. jews won't eat the blood the animals. this is a critical part of the koshering process yet jews are being accused of (and murdered for) using the bllod of non-jewish babies in a recipe for the holiest food on one of the holiest days on their calendar. kind of like someone within this thread saying, for example, that hamas would never behead a baby becaiuse it goes against muslim law while, ironically, the Jewish bible totally allows the murder of babies, women, etc. with all due respect pizza, i'm all for calling out blatant anti-jewish behaviors but i don't think we should ignore current day ones while the obvious old ones are reprimanded. brooklyn's (and any one who supports hamas) stance is blatantly anti-jewish and, to be frank, i'm amazed that fanlax has allowed this piece of garbage to have a voice. i've seen fanlax shut down people making racist comments and otherwise. why is this any different?

Always interesting when sacred texts are used in a modern context.

BTW, I think Saul loses his kingdom not because he was compassionate towards say children, but rather because he spares the amekelite king. But to be used, not out of compassion; Saul kills the women and children as commanded and with no apparent compunction...God punishes Saul because his commands are to be obeyed 100%. According to the story...a story to explain the history of this people under the notion that God is involved directly all the time...meting out benefits and punishments willy nilly...wiping out the Amekelites didn't help Saul...because he spared one Amekelite...uh huh.

Frankly, I think all of these stories that were orally told over many, many generations have enormous flaws versus what we should takeaway from them in a modern context of civilization...but that's me.

If Saul killed all the women, all the children, there would be no more amalakites. and, later, david the king fights the amalakites. more than this, even today, jews recognize that amalak lives. saul clearly did not kill (all) the women and children... nor did he kill all the animals or the king. what most jews takeaway from "remembering amalek" every year during parshas amalak (something torah-observant jews do) is that evil is real. and that there'll be a day when amalak will be removed from this world. (i can say with comfort that i know who the vast majority of jews will think of when they 'remember amalak' this year.) personally, i have a different take away but, especially based on the recent happenings, what the vast majority of jews think about when they remember amalak isn't wrong. evil is real, evil is present.

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:00 am
1.yes And that's why I'm trying to get to the truth. If you can help me. I understand Hamas didn't cut of their heads. That's a truth casualty. But how did Hamas kill the Jewish babies? If you know...
2.I don't know if that's the best example. The Jews went to war repeatedly and they didn't murder babies, nor women and animals, which is why G-d telling Saul to do this was so unique. A unique demand from G-d because the Amalakites were a unique people. To this day, Jews have enemies from the past through to the present and then there's amalek. totally different animal. so G-d wanted Saul to 100% remove amalek from this world. And even with this explicit demand, Saul didn't do it. And he's punished for it. Loses his kingship. brooklyn, what i'm saying is that your example is an example of the opposite of what you're proposing. an example of the jews inability to kill babies. i might be missing something but it seems like the jews using non-jewish babies' blood for their matza is as credible as... the Jewish bible permits the killing of non-jewish babies. but wehatever. potato, potahto. beheaded a baby, slitting a baby's throat (but not beheading it). but, brooklyn, i do have to say, it strikes me as odd that *very recently*, hamas has performed innumerable atrocities, including murdering a baby and, to this, you say, Casualties of the truth! And then you quickly follow-up with a thousands year old text (that you're misinterpretting) to accuse the Jews of literally the same atrocity that was just done by hamas. does this not strike you as starnge?

I only know as much as you do. Sadly, we don't know (and may possibly never know) the full truth.

Re the killing of babies, you might recall that Saddam allegedly did so in incubators. The story was discredited but the myth of his doing so remained a topic of conversation for years to come. Yes we know Hamas is far from innocent. But this is equally true of Israel's government. As for that matza blood libel myth, yuck, not an issue but a stereotype that should be erased from history forever. Regarding the Bible I posted that just to prove a point that it was permitted back then. However, Koranic law is eminently clear that killing infants is strictly prohibited ("Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man."

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:09 am

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:08 am

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:35 am

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:35 am Looks like those previously "confirmed" reports of Hamas beheading babies are now being retracted. I knew that it couldn't be since it would be a violation of the Koran. By contrast, the Bible teaches that you can do even worse things to babies.

Two questions:
1- Do you know how Hamas killed the babies? Did they slit their throats but didn't actually cut off their heads?
2- I haven't heard of the Jewish Bible allowing the murder of babies but I have heard about Jews using baby blood as an essential ingredient in the making of their matza for Passover. Are these two things connected?

Pretty sure your second is an infamous “blood libel.”

Not true, and does nothing to further this discussion. In fact, it is emblematic of the long history of anti-jewish behavior that has contributed hugely to the predicament all of us find ourselves in.

So, please stop.

blood libel! that was it! thank you... totally anti-jewish behavior based on not just lies but a lie that is so the opposite of jewish values. jews won't eat the blood the animals. this is a critical part of the koshering process yet jews are being accused of (and murdered for) using the bllod of non-jewish babies in a recipe for the holiest food on one of the holiest days on their calendar. kind of like someone within this thread saying, for example, that hamas would never behead a baby becaiuse it goes against muslim law while, ironically, the Jewish bible totally allows the murder of babies, women, etc. with all due respect pizza, i'm all for calling out blatant anti-jewish behaviors but i don't think we should ignore current day ones while the obvious old ones are reprimanded. brooklyn's (and any one who supports hamas) stance is blatantly anti-jewish and, to be frank, i'm amazed that fanlax has allowed this piece of garbage to have a voice. i've seen fanlax shut down people making racist comments and otherwise. why is this any different?

Fair question at the end.

That said, I think the site should allow a bit of back and forth on fraught topics of race and religion, bigotry etc...at least some latitude for views that are uncomfortable to others. But if they get truly egregious, there's a reporting process, warnings, timeouts, bans that can happen.

Brooklyn, do you consider yourself pro-Hamas? Pro-terrorism against Jewish people, whether in Israel or anywhere else?

I'm thinking no, though some of your posts could be read that way.

Big difference between murder of civilian Jews and sympathy for the Palestinian cause.

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:44 am

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:00 am
1.yes And that's why I'm trying to get to the truth. If you can help me. I understand Hamas didn't cut of their heads. That's a truth casualty. But how did Hamas kill the Jewish babies? If you know...
2.I don't know if that's the best example. The Jews went to war repeatedly and they didn't murder babies, nor women and animals, which is why G-d telling Saul to do this was so unique. A unique demand from G-d because the Amalakites were a unique people. To this day, Jews have enemies from the past through to the present and then there's amalek. totally different animal. so G-d wanted Saul to 100% remove amalek from this world. And even with this explicit demand, Saul didn't do it. And he's punished for it. Loses his kingship. brooklyn, what i'm saying is that your example is an example of the opposite of what you're proposing. an example of the jews inability to kill babies. i might be missing something but it seems like the jews using non-jewish babies' blood for their matza is as credible as... the Jewish bible permits the killing of non-jewish babies. but wehatever. potato, potahto. beheaded a baby, slitting a baby's throat (but not beheading it). but, brooklyn, i do have to say, it strikes me as odd that *very recently*, hamas has performed innumerable atrocities, including murdering a baby and, to this, you say, Casualties of the truth! And then you quickly follow-up with a thousands year old text (that you're misinterpretting) to accuse the Jews of literally the same atrocity that was just done by hamas. does this not strike you as starnge?

I only know as much as you do. Sadly, we don't know (and may possibly never know) the full truth.

Re the killing of babies, you might recall that Saddam allegedly did so in incubators. The story was discredited but the myth of his doing so remained a topic of conversation for years to come. Yes we know Hamas is far from innocent. But this is equally true of Israel's government. As for that matza blood libel myth, yuck, not an issue but a stereotype that should be erased from history forever. Regarding the Bible I posted that just to prove a point that it was permitted back then. However, Koranic law is eminently clear that killing infants is strictly prohibited ("Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man."

So...obviously, "Islamic" terrorists regularly violate that particular passage in the Koran.
...As these Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists did as well...on purpose, specifically, civilians. All ages, genders, etc. Brutal murder.

Pretty sure there are strong prohibitions against murder in the Old Testament too.

While I'd agree that the Israeli government is not "innocent", I don't believe that as a policy matter the Israeli government nor Israeli citizens as a rule countenance or celebrate the intentional murder of civilians or any background.

There IS a moral difference.

IMO, that matters, though is not sufficient.

re Saddam, I'd never heard that rumor, but in our age of misinformation, disinformation, and outright lies, I'm not surprised that such would circulate among some.

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:44 am.

Brooklyn, we don't know nor will we ever know the real truth?! wow...

1. Are you aware that there Arab Muslims in the Israeli army? i.e. this isn't a Jews vs. Muslim issue. this isn't a religious war. most Jews in Israel, especially in the army, are not religious. and if you do know this, why do you keep citing the bible? why do you keep comparing Islam to Judaism? this war is about Jews having a Jewish state and Hamas not wanting the Jews to have a Jewish state.
2. Do you believe that Israel has the right to exist?

If you ask an american if they're racists, sexist, anti-semitic, homophobic, the answer will consistently be, No. Which is often followed by, but...

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:06 pm

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:44 am

Baducchi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:00 am
1.yes And that's why I'm trying to get to the truth. If you can help me. I understand Hamas didn't cut of their heads. That's a truth casualty. But how did Hamas kill the Jewish babies? If you know...
2.I don't know if that's the best example. The Jews went to war repeatedly and they didn't murder babies, nor women and animals, which is why G-d telling Saul to do this was so unique. A unique demand from G-d because the Amalakites were a unique people. To this day, Jews have enemies from the past through to the present and then there's amalek. totally different animal. so G-d wanted Saul to 100% remove amalek from this world. And even with this explicit demand, Saul didn't do it. And he's punished for it. Loses his kingship. brooklyn, what i'm saying is that your example is an example of the opposite of what you're proposing. an example of the jews inability to kill babies. i might be missing something but it seems like the jews using non-jewish babies' blood for their matza is as credible as... the Jewish bible permits the killing of non-jewish babies. but wehatever. potato, potahto. beheaded a baby, slitting a baby's throat (but not beheading it). but, brooklyn, i do have to say, it strikes me as odd that *very recently*, hamas has performed innumerable atrocities, including murdering a baby and, to this, you say, Casualties of the truth! And then you quickly follow-up with a thousands year old text (that you're misinterpretting) to accuse the Jews of literally the same atrocity that was just done by hamas. does this not strike you as starnge?

I only know as much as you do. Sadly, we don't know (and may possibly never know) the full truth.

Re the killing of babies, you might recall that Saddam allegedly did so in incubators. The story was discredited but the myth of his doing so remained a topic of conversation for years to come. Yes we know Hamas is far from innocent. But this is equally true of Israel's government. As for that matza blood libel myth, yuck, not an issue but a stereotype that should be erased from history forever. Regarding the Bible I posted that just to prove a point that it was permitted back then. However, Koranic law is eminently clear that killing infants is strictly prohibited ("Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man."

So...obviously, "Islamic" terrorists regularly violate that particular passage in the Koran.
...As these Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists did as well...on purpose, specifically, civilians. All ages, genders, etc. Brutal murder.

Pretty sure there are strong prohibitions against murder in the Old Testament too.

While I'd agree that the Israeli government is not "innocent", I don't believe that as a policy matter the Israeli government nor Israeli citizens as a rule countenance or celebrate the intentional murder of civilians or any background.

There IS a moral difference.

IMO, that matters, though is not sufficient.

re Saddam, I'd never heard that rumor, but in our age of misinformation, disinformation, and outright lies, I'm not surprised that such would circulate among some.

My wife and I bought tickets to a speaking event back in August and the event was last night. There were 3 or 4 events I was interested in and incredibly, the guy that spoke last night could not have been more timely in his discussion….. the speaker was Art Spiegelman. It was a fantastic discussion. He talked about misinformation….he talked about his book Maus being banned in a Tennessee school district….he talked about the conflict in Israel….he talked about the “othering” of people. A very provocative discussion and so timely.