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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 1:45 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 1:28 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 1:16 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pmMy snowflake comment was more directed at NattyBo than anyone. Quick to jump on others for their offensiveness while being offensive himself.
If I drank Bud Light I'd still be drinking it and not give a schidt what anybody thought of that. Never drank it before, still don't.

I use the term 'snowflake' because of conservatives' constant use of the word. Because they're the ones getting upset and offended by something like a beer can with a trans person on it.

And yes, I'm calling people offended by Bud Light advertising to trans people snowflakes. If you're offended by the term snowflake, then that's your right.

There's a difference in being offensive to people who are being hateful and actively harming others vs. being offensive to innocent people who are just trying to live their lives with little to no impact on others.

Couldn't be that they (certainly not restricted to conservative) are just a little tired of trans-activists pushing their agenda and jamming it down everyone's throat? Most just don't care about this (at least I think that) but that squeaky wheel sure is getting a lot of grease these days, the subject is pretty much unavoidable. The Bud Light debacle appears to me to just be the final straw.

It's this sort of argument that truly has me puzzled. A neighbor friend with whom I regularly discuss politics (he's an ex-Trumpist, not 100% captured by right wing media as he's in the markets, so see WSJ, Bloomberg etc...and thinks Fox Business is trash). Very nice guy, but he tends to get on a hot jag at times...likes to see how I'll respond.

He used the same language about "trans agenda" and "jamming down our throats". I mean, really? What's this "agenda", please respect our right to live and be how we want to be, don't bully us, don't beat us up...rather 'ally' with us? Is this 'trans' issue really just the newest way to express distaste for homosexuality in general?

And what the heck is being "jammed down our throats"??? A beer marketer paid a young influencer to tout the beer in a way that was a bit edgy...to her followers...would any of us have ever seen it, much less had it "jammed down our throats" if some right wing digital extremists hadn't picked it up and made a big deal about it? I sure wouldn't have known about it.

And really, Target (and pretty much every other mass market retailer with a customer base that skews younger) displays some rainbow clothing and we go nuts about it? Is anyone making me buy it? No. Heck, when was the last time any of us even went into a Target? I might do so twice a year at most...

Where is all this outrage coming from, really?

Yes, "snowflakes" is the right word for those who liked to bandy that about pejoratively about those who thought police violence was out of hand...

Now, I have multiple friends who are gay, or have family members who are gay, children who identify gender fluid etc, one transitioning I hear. I sure a heck hope these folks can live in a society more accepting of their choices than the one we grew up in...

It's not going to change any of my choices, so why should I get uptight about it?

And I guess it scares some people...

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:40 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:24 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:18 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 3:33 pm More common sense coming from outside the USA: https://metrovoicenews.com/norway-joins ... ce%2Dbased.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CstlyHWSyNN/

It is really as easy that.

... you are going to believe evil socialists? They are probably training them to throw bombs at banks.

Well, considering we are also socialists, that seems to make us even worse thnt 'evil socialist'. Hell, we give protesters a pass when they do that here, even when they take over city square and burn down buildings. So yes, that does make us even worse than them.

Enjoy your weekend, while sipping your out of date bud light, and while you are at it, maybe you can get one of the [url=Well, considering we are also socialists, that seems to make us even worse that 'evil socialist'. Hell, we give protesters a pass when they do that here, even when they take over city square and burn down buildings. So yes, that does make us even worse than them.


Enjoy your weekend, while sipping your out of date bud light, and while you are at it, maybe you can get one of the bud light vouchers for a free case. bud light vouchers for a free case.

... wouldn't drink bud light if they had Scarlett Johanson deliver it to my house personally.

It just occurred to me that your source article can't possibly be considered reliable. You got a reliable source on that socialist medicine thing?? Really smells like propaganda.

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:41 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 3:13 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:59 pm Nope.
Your transgender athlete forces me to have a discussion with my daughter about why Christy, formerly Christopher (and still has all Christopher parts) about why SHE is playing on your team. Yes, this miniscule part of the population is jamming this down our throats.

This is reasonable. Yes, have an opinion because of the sports thing, where it affects you and your community. But I'm sure you understand that you can turn the tables and say that you are cramming your agenda down THEIR throats. All depends on your perspective. And who's holding all the power? It's certainly not the transgendered athletes.

But the Bud light thing? That's not a trans agenda. That's just another American selling beer. No agenda. Just a person. Unless, of course, you want to also say that alllllll those White guys pimping beer in commercials over the decades have been cramming the White agenda down folks, throats.

It seems that trans activists hold quite a bit of power. Have you listened to the JK Rowling Witch Trials podcast? People lost their jobs because they had the opinion that we should pump the brakes on letting trans women (biological men) into female spaces like bathrooms, prisons, domestic violence shelters. Didn't seem like an opinion worthy of cancellation to me, but those trans activists made it happen.

DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 8:50 pm I think this is a fair and interesting discussion which expresses the sentiments of many.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/br ... 82ae&ei=10
Here is your result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwd6QPO4vzg

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:47 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:31 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:24 pmBud Lite has been "virtue signaling", as you put int, to the LGBTQ community for DECADES. Your team didn't say a word. So has every other beer, wine, and spirits company. Drag shows, too. NO ONE CARED. It's about money, and nothing else.

Targeted Bud Lite commercial examples please.

This wasn't a commercial. Never aired on TV.

But...here ya go.....


https://marketingtherainbow.info/case%2 ... /budweiser

Bud Light helped kick off Pride Month 2016 with this ad depicting a same-sex wedding. "Gay weddings, they're just like any wedding," actor Seth Rogen says after we see a gay couple cutting a wedding cake. Rogen, along with Amy Schumer, then runs through wedding cliches like: "cringe-worthy speeches," "the girl who's super ready to settle down," and "cake." It ends with Rogen declaring: "Bud Light proudly supports everyone's right to marry whoever they want."

The spot was promoted by Ellen DeGeneres, who was paid to share the video to her millions of followers on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram. She said: "Looks like there's another party I'd vote for. #BudLightParty #LaughDancePartner". Remarkably, it only has less than half a million views even after four years, while regular posts by Ellen generate millions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vETmzQcc4A&t=2s

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:15 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:47 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:31 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:24 pmBud Lite has been "virtue signaling", as you put int, to the LGBTQ community for DECADES. Your team didn't say a word. So has every other beer, wine, and spirits company. Drag shows, too. NO ONE CARED. It's about money, and nothing else.

Targeted Bud Lite commercial examples please.

This wasn't a commercial. Never aired on TV.

But...here ya go.....


https://marketingtherainbow.info/case%2 ... /budweiser

Bud Light helped kick off Pride Month 2016 with this ad depicting a same-sex wedding. "Gay weddings, they're just like any wedding," actor Seth Rogen says after we see a gay couple cutting a wedding cake. Rogen, along with Amy Schumer, then runs through wedding cliches like: "cringe-worthy speeches," "the girl who's super ready to settle down," and "cake." It ends with Rogen declaring: "Bud Light proudly supports everyone's right to marry whoever they want."

The spot was promoted by Ellen DeGeneres, who was paid to share the video to her millions of followers on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram. She said: "Looks like there's another party I'd vote for. #BudLightParty #LaughDancePartner". Remarkably, it only has less than half a million views even after four years, while regular posts by Ellen generate millions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vETmzQcc4A&t=2s

Those 90's commercials are about as supportive as appearing in black face was for race relations.

They are mocking & condescending.

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:15 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:47 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:31 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:24 pmBud Lite has been "virtue signaling", as you put int, to the LGBTQ community for DECADES. Your team didn't say a word. So has every other beer, wine, and spirits company. Drag shows, too. NO ONE CARED. It's about money, and nothing else.

Targeted Bud Lite commercial examples please.

This wasn't a commercial. Never aired on TV.

But...here ya go.....


https://marketingtherainbow.info/case%2 ... /budweiser

Bud Light helped kick off Pride Month 2016 with this ad depicting a same-sex wedding. "Gay weddings, they're just like any wedding," actor Seth Rogen says after we see a gay couple cutting a wedding cake. Rogen, along with Amy Schumer, then runs through wedding cliches like: "cringe-worthy speeches," "the girl who's super ready to settle down," and "cake." It ends with Rogen declaring: "Bud Light proudly supports everyone's right to marry whoever they want."

The spot was promoted by Ellen DeGeneres, who was paid to share the video to her millions of followers on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram. She said: "Looks like there's another party I'd vote for. #BudLightParty #LaughDancePartner". Remarkably, it only has less than half a million views even after four years, while regular posts by Ellen generate millions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vETmzQcc4A&t=2s

Those 90's commercials are about as supportive as appearing in black face was for race relations.

They are mocking, condescending & degrading.

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:37 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:15 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:47 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:31 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:24 pmBud Lite has been "virtue signaling", as you put int, to the LGBTQ community for DECADES. Your team didn't say a word. So has every other beer, wine, and spirits company. Drag shows, too. NO ONE CARED. It's about money, and nothing else.

Targeted Bud Lite commercial examples please.

This wasn't a commercial. Never aired on TV.

But...here ya go.....


https://marketingtherainbow.info/case%2 ... /budweiser

Bud Light helped kick off Pride Month 2016 with this ad depicting a same-sex wedding. "Gay weddings, they're just like any wedding," actor Seth Rogen says after we see a gay couple cutting a wedding cake. Rogen, along with Amy Schumer, then runs through wedding cliches like: "cringe-worthy speeches," "the girl who's super ready to settle down," and "cake." It ends with Rogen declaring: "Bud Light proudly supports everyone's right to marry whoever they want."

The spot was promoted by Ellen DeGeneres, who was paid to share the video to her millions of followers on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram. She said: "Looks like there's another party I'd vote for. #BudLightParty #LaughDancePartner". Remarkably, it only has less than half a million views even after four years, while regular posts by Ellen generate millions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vETmzQcc4A&t=2s

Those 90's commercials are about as supportive as appearing in black face was for race relations.

They are mocking & condescending.

That's right. But Americans loved it.

......the 2016 commercials and massive campaign were not mocking. Fully supportive. And yet no one complained. Everyone kept right on drinking beer. Amazing what happens when media doesn't whip everyone into a frenzy. No one said a thing about it on the Water Cooler. Shocker. This ENTIRE Bud light is bad campaign is clickbait nonsense designed to keep people engaged on social media so the 1%ers get paid, and to get guys like DeSantis elected.

Nice irony that the BIGGEST complaints from the fringe right are, 1. everyone gets offended by the dumbest things, and 2. cancel culture is bad

This is waaaaaay up there on the list of overreactions from fringe Americans.

Nice self-awareness.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:25 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 8:50 pm I think this is a fair and interesting discussion which expresses the sentiments of many.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/br ... 82ae&ei=10
Here is your result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwd6QPO4vzg

Bad example. All of professional cycling is a cesspool of cheating.

Oh, and Piers is a little jerk.

old salt wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:00 am You have no self-awareness. The '90's commercials were mocking farces, not supportive

old salt wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:00 am Yes -- Americans loved mocking men in drag, & still do. Your link called the pre-2016 ads "transphobic".

old salt wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:00 am The 2016 commercials were supportive & meant to be taken seriously. They were not done for laughs.

a fan wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:54 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:00 am You have no self-awareness. The '90's commercials were mocking farces, not supportive

You wrote "They are mocking & condescending", and I replied "That's right".
...followed by :
Nice irony that the BIGGEST complaints from the fringe right are, 1. everyone gets offended by the dumbest things, and 2. cancel culture is bad

This is waaaaaay up there on the list of overreactions from fringe Americans.

Nice self-awareness.

Did you bump your head?
That does not sync with "That's right"

old salt wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:00 am Yes -- Americans loved mocking men in drag, & still do. Your link called the pre-2016 ads "transphobic".

What part of "that's right" don't you get?
see above -- your incoherent, hostile response, which does not indicate agreement.
Perhaps it's your chopped up, disjointed, angry, snark. Try agreeing agreeably.

old salt wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:00 am The 2016 commercials were supportive & meant to be taken seriously. They were not done for laughs.

Yes. And do you even remember them? No one does. That's the whole point. No one cared.
They bombed & were not aired enough to be seen or make an impression.

Do you remember the 2020 ad, featuring two gay women? See any complaints about it on this forum. Nope. No one cared.
Did anyone even see it ? I don't recall seeing it before. Upon reviewing it now, I did not notice any LGBTQ+ messaging. How was I supposed to know they were gay ? The teaser did not air with the commercial. If I saw that commercial (Typical American ?), it left no impression with me.

Do I have to draw you a picture? You and millions of Americans are allowing yourselves to get worked into a frenzy over a big fat bowl of nothing. And lining media 1%ers pockets who are THRILLED to have you as clickbait for their advertisers. Keep you angry. Keep you clicking. That's all this is.

Keep it up. The liberal elites are happy as clams to take your money.
What liberal elites are taking my money from this & how ?

Ten minutes ago you were calling people who were offended by every little thing "snowflakes", and mocking cancel culture. You and your buds are losing your minds over an ad for a beer you don't even drink. And the ad wasn't even on TV. It was on some obscure YouTuber's page....a page you would NEVER visit.
You're confusing me with someone else. Offended ? I called no one a snowflake. Did not mention cancel culture.
Frenzy ? Losing my mind ? I'm having a good laugh over this nonsense.

You're letting yourself be fooled by people that are making money off of you. Happens to all of us sometimes. But at some point, you can figure out that you're getting played, don't you think?
How am I getting played ? Who's making money off of me & how ?

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:15 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:47 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:31 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:24 pmBud Lite has been "virtue signaling", as you put int, to the LGBTQ community for DECADES. Your team didn't say a word. So has every other beer, wine, and spirits company. Drag shows, too. NO ONE CARED. It's about money, and nothing else.

Targeted Bud Lite commercial examples please.

This wasn't a commercial. Never aired on TV.

But...here ya go.....


https://marketingtherainbow.info/case%2 ... /budweiser

Bud Light helped kick off Pride Month 2016 with this ad depicting a same-sex wedding. "Gay weddings, they're just like any wedding," actor Seth Rogen says after we see a gay couple cutting a wedding cake. Rogen, along with Amy Schumer, then runs through wedding cliches like: "cringe-worthy speeches," "the girl who's super ready to settle down," and "cake." It ends with Rogen declaring: "Bud Light proudly supports everyone's right to marry whoever they want."

The spot was promoted by Ellen DeGeneres, who was paid to share the video to her millions of followers on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram. She said: "Looks like there's another party I'd vote for. #BudLightParty #LaughDancePartner". Remarkably, it only has less than half a million views even after four years, while regular posts by Ellen generate millions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vETmzQcc4A&t=2s

Those 90's commercials are about as supportive as appearing in black face was for race relations.

They are mocking, condescending & degrading.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:22 pm https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... e-category

“research studies indicating that even with the suppression of testosterone, transgender women who transition post-puberty retain a performance advantage.”

This has been my take…. Also, any transgender athlete that competed at an competitive level as a male, should also face increased scrutiny depending on the sport. I don’t support one size fits all. Boys and girls compete in many sports through elementary school.

DMac wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:04 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:22 pm https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... e-category

“research studies indicating that even with the suppression of testosterone, transgender women who transition post-puberty retain a performance advantage.”

This has been my take…. Also, any transgender athlete that competed at an competitive level as a male, should also face increased scrutiny depending on the sport. I don’t support one size fits all. Boys and girls compete in many sports through elementary school.

I find this interesting, you post the same article I do, seems to me as if we're pretty much in agreement here but you're anything but agreeable with me all along the way. Lia Thomas has no business competing against women in the swimming pool (and does not belong in their locker rooms) and Riley Gaines is 100% right in raising all kinds of hell about it. Leslie Mumford has no business competing with women cyclists, and those who wouldn't stand on the podium with the trans are 100% right in making a statement (something they don't have to worry about anymore because enough people have come to their senses and made a change). This is not difficult. Boys and girls competing in elementary school is hardly the same thing, actually not even in the same ballpark as a trans swimmer, cyclist, sprinter, etc competing against women. This is bullschidt and it has nothing to do with trans rights.

DMac wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:04 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:22 pm https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... e-category

“research studies indicating that even with the suppression of testosterone, transgender women who transition post-puberty retain a performance advantage.”

This has been my take…. Also, any transgender athlete that competed at an competitive level as a male, should also face increased scrutiny depending on the sport. I don’t support one size fits all. Boys and girls compete in many sports through elementary school.

I find this interesting, you post the same article I do, seems to me as if we're pretty much in agreement here but you're anything but agreeable with me all along the way. Lia Thomas has no business competing against women in the swimming pool (and does not belong in their locker rooms) and Riley Gaines is 100% right in raising all kinds of hell about it. Leslie Mumford has no business competing with women cyclists, and those who wouldn't stand on the podium with the trans are 100% right in making a statement (something they don't have to worry about anymore because enough people have come to their senses and made a change). This is not difficult. Boys and girls competing in elementary school is hardly the same thing, actually not even in the same ballpark as a trans swimmer, cyclist, sprinter, etc competing against women. This is bullschidt and it has nothing to do with trans rights.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:41 am

DMac wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:04 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:22 pm https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... e-category

“research studies indicating that even with the suppression of testosterone, transgender women who transition post-puberty retain a performance advantage.”

This has been my take…. Also, any transgender athlete that competed at an competitive level as a male, should also face increased scrutiny depending on the sport. I don’t support one size fits all. Boys and girls compete in many sports through elementary school.

I find this interesting, you post the same article I do, seems to me as if we're pretty much in agreement here but you're anything but agreeable with me all along the way. Lia Thomas has no business competing against women in the swimming pool (and does not belong in their locker rooms) and Riley Gaines is 100% right in raising all kinds of hell about it. Leslie Mumford has no business competing with women cyclists, and those who wouldn't stand on the podium with the trans are 100% right in making a statement (something they don't have to worry about anymore because enough people have come to their senses and made a change). This is not difficult. Boys and girls competing in elementary school is hardly the same thing, actually not even in the same ballpark as a trans swimmer, cyclist, sprinter, etc competing against women. This is bullschidt and it has nothing to do with trans rights.

Agreeing in specific subset of conclusions and all the journey in between and degrees of spectrum means two people can agree on an end point but doesn’t mean all the reasoning or case each builds internally is the same or logically equal. I tend to agree with both of you but I also absolutely will not bug out if my daughter has to compete with a non binary former boy. I’d just tell her, “don’t worry leave it all out there and go on and beat that b**ch!” (Not really but that attitude anyways) grumble on here like I do about the cheating a** exurb mouth breathers who literally have 1/3 their roster 4yrs older than my kids for a fact but to go buck wild crazy and whine about it as a parent sends a dogsh*t message to their kids about life IMO.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:15 am

DMac wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:04 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:22 pm https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... e-category

“research studies indicating that even with the suppression of testosterone, transgender women who transition post-puberty retain a performance advantage.”

This has been my take…. Also, any transgender athlete that competed at an competitive level as a male, should also face increased scrutiny depending on the sport. I don’t support one size fits all. Boys and girls compete in many sports through elementary school.

I find this interesting, you post the same article I do, seems to me as if we're pretty much in agreement here but you're anything but agreeable with me all along the way. Lia Thomas has no business competing against women in the swimming pool (and does not belong in their locker rooms) and Riley Gaines is 100% right in raising all kinds of hell about it. Leslie Mumford has no business competing with women cyclists, and those who wouldn't stand on the podium with the trans are 100% right in making a statement (something they don't have to worry about anymore because enough people have come to their senses and made a change). This is not difficult. Boys and girls competing in elementary school is hardly the same thing, actually not even in the same ballpark as a trans swimmer, cyclist, sprinter, etc competing against women. This is bullschidt and it has nothing to do with trans rights.

Yep we agree. Unfortunately that is being argued across the country. Legislation proposed in some communities to ban it at ALL AGES. Just like Amanda Gorman’s poem has been labeled as “hate speech” at at least one school. That poem is “hate speech”?

BTW, you never read stories about transgender athletes that aren’t competitive….do you have any idea why?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:15 am

DMac wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:04 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:22 pm https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... e-category

“research studies indicating that even with the suppression of testosterone, transgender women who transition post-puberty retain a performance advantage.”

This has been my take…. Also, any transgender athlete that competed at an competitive level as a male, should also face increased scrutiny depending on the sport. I don’t support one size fits all. Boys and girls compete in many sports through elementary school.

I find this interesting, you post the same article I do, seems to me as if we're pretty much in agreement here but you're anything but agreeable with me all along the way. Lia Thomas has no business competing against women in the swimming pool (and does not belong in their locker rooms) and Riley Gaines is 100% right in raising all kinds of hell about it. Leslie Mumford has no business competing with women cyclists, and those who wouldn't stand on the podium with the trans are 100% right in making a statement (something they don't have to worry about anymore because enough people have come to their senses and made a change). This is not difficult. Boys and girls competing in elementary school is hardly the same thing, actually not even in the same ballpark as a trans swimmer, cyclist, sprinter, etc competing against women. This is bullschidt and it has nothing to do with trans rights.

Yep we agree. Unfortunately that is being argued across the country. Legislation proposed in some communities to ban it at ALL AGES. Just like Amanda Gorman’s poem has been labeled as “hate speech” at at least one school. That poem is “hate speech”?

BTW, you never read stories about transgender athletes that aren’t competitive….do you have any idea why?

I have 2-3 kids on my lacrosse team my daughter would beat the ish out of on almost any athletic endeavor and shes wayyy too girly and a social butterfly for my tastes.