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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:23 pm**

I see that Clemson is padding the stats again today, 21 - 1 over Winthrop. I just took a look at their OOC schedule, my god it is embarrassing. I get that it's a new program but the vast majority of the roster is made up of kids that have 3 - 4 years of D1 experience under their belt. They still have games against Radford, Presbyterian, Longwood, Campbell, and Gardner-Webb...guaranteed to put up at least 20 goals against each one of them. Sad.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:31 pm**

8meterPA wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:23 pm I see that Clemson is padding the stats again today, 21 - 1 over Winthrop. I just took a look at their OOC schedule, my god it is embarrassing. I get that it's a new program but the vast majority of the roster is made up of kids that have 3 - 4 years of D1 experience under their belt. They still have games against Radford, Presbyterian, Longwood, Campbell, and Gardner-Webb...guaranteed to put up at least 20 goals against each one of them. Sad.

embarassing

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:51 pm**

wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:00 pm
Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:54 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:31 pm Florida is still Florida I see…
or UNC is actually good?
I was specifically alluding to their 3 yellow cards in the first 17 minutes.

UNC looks good..more cohesive than they did against JMU. Florida is also shooting themselves in the foot.

This was a dreadful game to watch. Florida had no team offense and unc was not much prettier until second half. Syracuse two early season wins are Maryland and northwestern and they looked great doing it. Unc are Florida, JMU and Liberty and they looked meh. Who the coaches vote number 1 this week should be interesting. I’d bet on cuse in a head to head with unc tomorrow…..

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:53 pm**

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:51 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:00 pm
Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:54 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:31 pm Florida is still Florida I see…
or UNC is actually good?
I was specifically alluding to their 3 yellow cards in the first 17 minutes.

UNC looks good..more cohesive than they did against JMU. Florida is also shooting themselves in the foot.
This was a dreadful game to watch. Florida had no team offense and unc was not much prettier until second half. Syracuse two early season wins are Maryland and northwestern and they looked great doing it. Unc are Florida, JMU and Liberty and they looked meh. Who the coaches vote number 1 this week should be interesting. I’d bet on cuse in a head to head with unc tomorrow…..

I thought UNC looked pretty solid in the 2nd quarter, but had an ugly 3rd.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:06 pm**

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:51 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:00 pm
Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:54 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:31 pm Florida is still Florida I see…
or UNC is actually good?
I was specifically alluding to their 3 yellow cards in the first 17 minutes.

UNC looks good..more cohesive than they did against JMU. Florida is also shooting themselves in the foot.
This was a dreadful game to watch. Florida had no team offense and unc was not much prettier until second half. Syracuse two early season wins are Maryland and northwestern and they looked great doing it. Unc are Florida, JMU and Liberty and they looked meh. Who the coaches vote number 1 this week should be interesting. I’d bet on cuse in a head to head with unc tomorrow…..

Resume wise yes Cuse should be number 1.They look like the best team. but it wont be interesting because UNC was voted number 1 and have 2 top 20 wins under their belt while being the defending champs. Only way they lose the #1 ranking is by losing. Why are you trying to discredit their wins?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:41 pm**

njbill wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:14 pm Final was 20-11 UVA. Princeton lead 4-0 and 5-1 but it was all Cavaliers after that. Shortest drive of the year for the 08055 crowd? Well worth the trip, eh?

Sure beats 5 hrs from C-ville on a Sunday afternoon

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:59 pm**

Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:06 pm
Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:51 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:00 pm
Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:54 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:31 pm Florida is still Florida I see…
or UNC is actually good?
I was specifically alluding to their 3 yellow cards in the first 17 minutes.

UNC looks good..more cohesive than they did against JMU. Florida is also shooting themselves in the foot.
This was a dreadful game to watch. Florida had no team offense and unc was not much prettier until second half. Syracuse two early season wins are Maryland and northwestern and they looked great doing it. Unc are Florida, JMU and Liberty and they looked meh. Who the coaches vote number 1 this week should be interesting. I’d bet on cuse in a head to head with unc tomorrow…..
Resume wise yes Cuse should be number 1.They look like the best team. but it wont be interesting because UNC was voted number 1 and have 2 top 20 wins under their belt while being the defending champs. Only way they lose the #1 ranking is by losing. Why are you trying to discredit their wins?

Not discredit. Just pointing out there is big difference, at least to me, I’m looking great while winning two games against top 5 opponents versus looking mediocre while winning against a top 10 (florida) and a top 20 (jmu for now).

I don’t disagree that the polls will likely take the “#1 until they lose” approach. But I think most people who watched the games without a dog in the hunt would think Syracuse looks like the deeper and more talented team. At least I did!

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:14 pm**

8meterPA wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:23 pm I see that Clemson is padding the stats again today, 21 - 1 over Winthrop. I just took a look at their OOC schedule, my god it is embarrassing. I get that it's a new program but the vast majority of the roster is made up of kids that have 3 - 4 years of D1 experience under their belt. They still have games against Radford, Presbyterian, Longwood, Campbell, and Gardner-Webb...guaranteed to put up at least 20 goals against each one of them. Sad.

I am interested in hearing how you would have set up the inaugural season of play schedule? What would you have done different? I broke it down in some other post, but these schedules are made a year or so in advance. My guess is Coach Kwolek set this up in September of 2021...a month and a half after she got the job with no recruiting class. Looks like they committed 9 freshmen so im guessing they had those in the fold while making the schedule. Many of these transfers came in this past summer, long after the schedule was done. With that context, what would have your schedule been?

Seems like people love hating on ACC teams with Pitt, ND, Clemson, etc. Not clear what you want out of the Pitt and the Clemson's of the world in the first few years of play.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:44 pm**

Clemson is a joke. After great fan fare and announcing their arrival to great pyrotechnic fan fare. They concoct this stink saa schedule. They stated we are here to compete. Stop being an apologist for this program. I’m sure if she approached some South Eastern semi- competitive programs ( Elon, East Carolina, High Point, Coastal) or some NE tundra teams( Bryant, Niagara, Bing, UNH, Lowell) would love an early warm contest, same tundra situation ( Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown) this weekend. Stop making excuses. Any of these program would love to come to Clemson or semi SE travel is not a hassle. Clemson has a lot full of athletic buses. Repeatedly on social media they stated they were here to compete. Lie!! All these teams mentioned would change their schedule (it happens every year) to play a home and home with a ACC TEAM.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:50 pm**

Do the 20 grad students really want to play Presbyterian? I hope the ACC teams that this team to the woodshed with running clock at halftime. Lax is a small world and revenue will be sweet, for embarrassing these programs. How did the programs they’re playing find the room to play Clemson? Their schedules were set over a year ago, by your flawed ( excuse filled thinking) . At least play Richmond? Joke

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:56 pm**

Clemson’s next two games are against Notre Dame and UVA. Just a guess, but I suspect those games will be a tad more competitive.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:56 pm**

Not an apologist, but a realist. My guess is Clemson will get their clocked cleaned in ACC play. My guess is they want to get some W's year one, and try to build a program. Instead you all want them to get florida, vandy, etc ON TOP of the 6-7 ranked opponents that they have in the ACC. Whats the difference between Niagara and Campbell? Probably not that much. Some food for thought:

Florida added in 2010...here is the OOC their first season (mind you this took place in the non shot clock era...so these scores could be much worst)
St. Bonaventure (22-11)
Lasalle (15-5)
Oregon (16-6)
Marist (22-3)
UNH (15-3)
Jacksonville 1st year program (16-6)
Lemoyne (15-3)

Same thing from Florida...they were here to compete right away from the go. Obviously Social Media hadn't taken off yet, but here we are. Same set up, same stuff. Got some wins early and helped land the recruits they needed to build the program right. Just my opinion.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:57 pm**

Something I wonder about Clemson is how many schools did they reach out to for scheduling. Not a ton of really good D1 programs nearby, but with all that football money they could probably have a decent travel budget. Then again, I also wonder if some coaches wouldn't play them because they didn't want to risk losing to a first year program. Something to monitor as they bring in what could be the best recruiting class in the country next year.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:01 pm**

Wheels,Wheels! wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:50 pm Do the 20 grad students really want to play Presbyterian? I hope the ACC teams that this team to the woodshed with running clock at halftime. Lax is a small world and revenue will be sweet, for embarrassing these programs. How did the programs they’re playing find the room to play Clemson? Their schedules were set over a year ago, by your flawed ( excuse filled thinking) . At least play Richmond? Joke

Revenue? Embarrassing these programs? Have you watched the games? I can't say that I have, but a quick glance at the box score, it seems like they have taken the foot off the gas pedal after the first quarter. Seems something personal for you...do you have a student-athlete on one of these teams?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:48 pm**

Sunnylax wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:56 am
Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:21 am
DMac wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:45 am Don't know who Larry is. Apparently one of the officials had written down numbers 1 and 5 had yellow card calls on them. There is no #5 but there is a #15 (Nat Smith) and she did have 1 yellow card. Clerical error on the official's part, pretty sure it was the black guy who is the one who made the "soft yellow" card, which shouldn't have been a yellow card at all, call which then made it 4 on Cuse. He was the one claiming that Cuse had four and had to be corrected. If you watch the replay you'll see the NU girl stumbled and tripped on the 4th YC call (made by the black guy), Goodale had nothing to do with her hitting the turf, hence her laughing and shaking her head all the way to the penalty box. As a crew I thought the officiating left much to be desired and the two males were the worst.
Larry Carr https://www.usalacrosse.com/news-media- ... 022-events
Larry is hit or miss. Depends on the day but overall, I think he's pretty good. He does a lot of ACC games so I have seen quite a number of games with Larry in charge. The other short guy is the worst!

Larry did the Battle of Charles Street....more on the miss today.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:58 pm**

Nothing personal. That’s for sure. But I’m disturbed that they came on the scene as wanting to be seen as a competitor but their OOC schedule screams that we are just looking to post some lopsided wins, with the mostly grads, to prove they are a viable program. Maybe more competitive opponents would better prepare them for their ACC Schedule. You’re a fool to defend them.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:19 pm**

A fool? Why is that? You absolutely do sound as if you're on a mission to tear this first year program apart.
Frankly, I don't see what the big deal is. Clemson now has a wlax team, I see that as a good thing. Give
them a little time to get in the deep end of the pool, you want them to jump in up to their necks before
they know if they can swim or not. What's the big deal? Spare me the " they came on the scene as wanting
to be seen as a competitor" part, they probably still do, they're just not coming onto the scene to your liking.
Oh, and they don't care about that.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:54 am**

Watched two games yesterday: the on-demand version of the SU-MD game, and the live version of the Florida-UNC game.

I had picked Maryland by two (cue the Crow Dinner), and would never have believed anyone telling me that Syracuse wins by 9 goals without seeing it for myself. Syracuse's offense was a pleasure to watch -- talk about kids loose and having fun? But Maryland's defense was really poor; bad coverage, bad communication; poor help; and Sterling faced with shots from everywhere from good shooters. Syracuse defense and goalkeeping was better than I thought it would be, but here again, I thought Maryland's offense looked tentative and out of synch. May is a very able off ball player and shooter, and just did not have a day. Terps showed very little ability to dodge apart from Leubecker, who ran into the teeth of that collapsing zone that Defliese has Syracuse playing. And the Syracuse keeper had a good day.

Syracuse probably got called for 4, 5 or 6 three second calls -- which I think were basically right, and which are a risk by-product of the zone. And Maryland, usually a good eight-meter team, did not convert.

I think Maryland will get there, and probably missed the length and presence and fire of Donovan. But the offense needs work too.

The UNC-Florida game was interesting, because neither of these teams seemed very impressive to me. Florida played poorly and stupidly in the first half. And it is hard to win games against quality opponents when you only play two decent quarters, or maybe one. In the first half, riddled with the usual dumb yellows and a green card, Florida attackers just left their defense playing endlessly by throwing the ball away, shooting badly in the first 30 seconds of the clock, and other dumb game management mistakes. Sorry, but Florida has a discipline and coaching problem.

As for UNC, watching other women in the No. 3, 12 (Dirks, DNP). 15 and 23 is just weird. UNC will win games with good defense again, with 1, 5 and 45 (all of whom also handle the ball and clear very well). And the replacement for Moreno had a decent day. The offense seems OK so far, and could use a healthy Dirks. But I'm not sure that Florida and JMU constitute championship quality opponents, so it is hard to say how good UNC really is.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:33 am**

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:54 am Watched two games yesterday: the on-demand version of the SU-MD game, and the live version of the Florida-UNC game.

I had picked Maryland by two (cue the Crow Dinner), and would never have believed anyone telling me that Syracuse wins by 9 goals without seeing it for myself. Syracuse's offense was a pleasure to watch -- talk about kids loose and having fun? But Maryland's defense was really poor; bad coverage, bad communication; poor help; and Sterling faced with shots from everywhere from good shooters. Syracuse defense and goalkeeping was better than I thought it would be, but here again, I thought Maryland's offense looked tentative and out of synch. May is a very able off ball player and shooter, and just did not have a day. Terps showed very little ability to dodge apart from Leubecker, who ran into the teeth of that collapsing zone that Defliese has Syracuse playing. And the Syracuse keeper had a good day.

Syracuse probably got called for 4, 5 or 6 three second calls -- which I think were basically right, and which are a risk by-product of the zone. And Maryland, usually a good eight-meter team, did not convert.

I think Maryland will get there, and probably missed the length and presence and fire of Donovan. But the offense needs work too.

The UNC-Florida game was interesting, because neither of these teams seemed very impressive to me. Florida played poorly and stupidly in the first half. And it is hard to win games against quality opponents when you only play two decent quarters, or maybe one. In the first half, riddled with the usual dumb yellows and a green card, Florida attackers just left their defense playing endlessly by throwing the ball away, shooting badly in the first 30 seconds of the clock, and other dumb game management mistakes. Sorry, but Florida has a discipline and coaching problem.

As for UNC, watching other women in the No. 3, 12 (Dirks, DNP). 15 and 23 is just weird. UNC will win games with good defense again, with 1, 5 and 45 (all of whom also handle the ball and clear very well). And the replacement for Moreno had a decent day. The offense seems OK so far, and could use a healthy Dirks. But I'm not sure that Florida and JMU constitute championship quality opponents, so it is hard to say how good UNC really is.

Good post and pretty accurate...Maryland offence or lack there-of surprising. UNC D did a good job. you can tell 15 & 7 will try to be the next Hoeg -> Ortega combo. Not sure if they have a lot of other offensive firepower. Also better teams will lock off Wurtz.... cant wait for today's BC - NU game.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:31 am**

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:54 am Syracuse's offense was a pleasure to watch -- talk about kids loose and having fun?

Plenty of examples of this but I particularly liked the two girls down goal. Goodale legs the ball downfield on the clear and gets pretty deep in Cuse's end with the ball. She eventually runs out of room and is in a fairly precarious situation along the sideline with two UMD defenders in front of her. She gets a pass off to Carney and now it's in her stick. I'm thinking, I'm good with that, I never have a problem with the ball being in Carney's stick, good person to have it two players down. When the heat comes she gets it to Ward and I'm thinking the same thing, that's a mighty tough stick to get the ball out of too. Now the heat's on Emma and she gets it to MT and you sure as hell don't have any problem with the ball being in her stick. MT, ball in stick, cuts across the field from near side to far side being chased by two defenders and delivers a pass on the money to a cutting Adamson who fires a rocket to the cage and buries it. That was, indeed, a pleasure to watch, that sequence left me leaning back just shaking my head. Cuse's O can be scary, there's an awful lot of talent out there.
How 'bout that Maddy Baxter driving hard to the cage and firing?

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