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Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 12:45 pm**

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:20 am
wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:11 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:06 am
wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:51 am
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:59 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:51 amYou probably weren't referring to me on the last comment; agreed.
I assume he's referring to TypicalLD's comment that using a film clip where the town's people are prodding the mayor to keep the black sheriff out of their town may not be the best clip for pro-Trumpers to use when pleading their case for being treated unfairly within the forum. Something like this. Of course Blazing Saddles isn't racist. It's satire. It's making fun of racism. But taken put of context, not a great look for a Trumper or Conservative or whatever.
tld would not post that.

and yeah, you'd have to take it out of context to push that beyond a jab.
You're right, TLD wouldn't have used that clip to make the intended point.

TLD simply pointed out to the poster who did, certainly conservative leaning, that in the clip "the is town is going to sh-t" to emphasize a point, to be funny I'm sure, the alignment of the parties was wrong, ironically.

The poster swiftly said that he hadn't intended the additional implication, as I think TLD already knew. It was of no moment.

I don't think anyone on here (sure hope not!) misunderstands the point of Blazing Saddles overall.
no. tld would not have commented on the clip that way. imo. could be wrong.

but he wasn't involved at all.
You were correct, FFG not TLD!

TLD is currently preparing a libel lawsuit against you all for disparaging his good name like this.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 12:46 pm**

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:34 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:19 am
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:08 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:57 amIMO, this Trump cult social media thing has had rather devastating effects.
It's a focus group of one but that says worlds to me. I'm not suggesting anything in what i'm about to say, I'm just saying a thought, and... if, literally and metaphorically, we didn't have a Politics Forum, if people avoided political discussions, maybe, Lady Laker and you would still be friends. Maybe some of the people we've grown apart from and have grown apart from us would still be closer, literally and metaphorically, would still be at FanLax. Again, I'm not suggesting anything. Personally, I like knowing where people stand with more divisive issues, especially Trump-like stuff. With this said...
In a broader sense, certainly the social media world has greatly exacerbated the polarization. But didn't most of us use to be able to talk politics and social issues without going nuclear in our desires to play active warriors on behalf of a single leader?

Sure, an issue like abortion could generate a lot of heat at a dinner party (so generally avoided) but this is full on, all the time, all issues, attack mode. And flat out disinformation campaigns, toleration of flat out lying in the service of one's partisan interests.

For my part, I've avoided those other social media platforms that amplify, algorithmically, the most divisive such, the most outrageous such...LP and FL have offered a non algorithmic haven for discourse between people who may not agree, sometimes passionately, but in which some basic good conduct could be expected of one another...perhaps because of the other bond we share, our love of our sport held in common, but also because the forum is constructed differently and has some moderation as well as some self policing.
Not everyone was prepared or capable of the relative freedom and velocity of information transmission that came with the advent of the internet.

I know I wasn't!
And I understood early on what the algorithms were doing...

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 12:49 pm**

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:09 am
Tommy No wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:57 am
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:45 am Why ever happened to LadyLaker?
Very close friend of mine, married to one of my oldest and best friends. Very, very funny gal, acerbic wit, and extremely knowledgeable about refereeing the women's game. Pretty darn knowledgeable about local MIAA boys schools as well, given long stint at BL. Good person. Two great daughters.

Terrific contributor on LP, especially on lax topics.

However...her other social media world became full on deep Trumpist...way, way down the rathole of Trumpism. Angry stuff as well as humor. I tried to engage respectfully early days...no possibility of return, so now avoid.

IMO, this Trump cult social media thing has had rather devastating effects.
Wow. That's awful. Just awful. I'm sorry...
I still consider her a good person and a good friend, who'd be there in a crisis...not sure she'd say the same about me these days...this stuff is so toxic.
It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.

JoeMauer89!

You picked that word out of the entire post to focus on? Not the part about how he’s still be there for her in a crisis but not sure she would for him. Does that sound like someone choosing to allow or be in a toxic situation or something else?

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 12:51 pm**

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:33 am
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:07 am Moving it to Hamsterdam would essentially be saying, No holds barred. and i don't think that's what people want. You can find No Holds Barred all over the internet and... It's terrible. One or two people can ruin it for all. which, basically, is what we've been experiencing...
Hamsterdam currently gets no hits because there are no topics over there worth talking about.
The politics side has a bunch of interestingf topics but is currently being overrun with trolls. And its not being moderated to anyone's liking on either side. That's making people even more likely to leave.
I say push the easy button and move it all to Hamsterdam. The lax side is moderated, everything else is free reign.
Start some topics in Hamsterdam then. To me everything involving human interaction is political.

Maybe that would be a good first trial balloon in Hamsterdam, “what are/is politics”?

Since David Duchovny is too old I am happy to volunteer to create a FFGs Red Shoe Diaries thread. But the only political context would be an occasional scene involving a senator and a smoking hot intern.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 12:52 pm**

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:57 am I'd be all for getting rid of the Politics section in Fanlax, or moving it all to Hamsterdam.

There's already politics threads on there...but pretty much none of us want to participate with the no rules. We voted with our posts.

A notch more moderation at least has a solid chance of restoring the environment here to one which is more inviting of actual discourse.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 12:55 pm**

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:50 am
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:39 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.
i disagree, Joe. It's toxic because it's toxic. I'm not a young man and I've never been bothered by someone's political view... until Trump. Because this moves away from a political view and explicitly into character. And, yes, I can create a wall to shield me from these people. And, when necessary, i do. but I prefer to just create distance. I feel no reason to protect myself from toxic people. I prefer to create distance.
It’s the dishonesty and disingenuousness. “Don’t piddle on my leg and tell me it’s raining”. Honestly held convictions are one thing, bald-faced lying is another. As I used to tell my children, “don’t tell the stupid lie; it’s insulting to both of us.”

I may steal that with my son who’s incredibly smart even by parent overrating their kid standards but getting into a little trouble for running games and talking back in 2nd grade but it’s like intellectual defiance not the dumb kid stuff my daughter does (son in 2nd grade and 8 going on 9 end of summer, but testing has him at a 7th grade reading level, read Neverending story All 360 or so pages, on his own last year after I read it to him when he was five).

I think he’d appreciate the challenge of coming up with good lies and it might actually be a useful tactic over emotional manipulation which I tend to go with “you just really disappoint me doing this when I know how capable you are” type stuff.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 12:58 pm**

Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:20 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:18 pmRight did I say the movie is racist or did someone not bother to critically read before posting something suggesting I don’t get it? F that if that’s what passes as legitimate discussion.
the discussion strayed from the originally and then someone was confused and the confusion was clarified and... no one thought or thinks you thought the movie was racist.

I’m talking about the quote from Os “anyone who thinks Blazing Saddles is racist really doesn’t get it” having just popped in, playing a victim here while and then without any attempt at clarification drops a bomb and walks out and then we are supposed to feel bad that we lost that?

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 1:02 pm**

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:49 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:09 am
Tommy No wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:57 am
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:45 am Why ever happened to LadyLaker?
Very close friend of mine, married to one of my oldest and best friends. Very, very funny gal, acerbic wit, and extremely knowledgeable about refereeing the women's game. Pretty darn knowledgeable about local MIAA boys schools as well, given long stint at BL. Good person. Two great daughters.

Terrific contributor on LP, especially on lax topics.

However...her other social media world became full on deep Trumpist...way, way down the rathole of Trumpism. Angry stuff as well as humor. I tried to engage respectfully early days...no possibility of return, so now avoid.

IMO, this Trump cult social media thing has had rather devastating effects.
Wow. That's awful. Just awful. I'm sorry...
I still consider her a good person and a good friend, who'd be there in a crisis...not sure she'd say the same about me these days...this stuff is so toxic.
It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.

JoeMauer89!
You picked that word out of the entire post to focus on? Not the part about how he’s still be there for her in a crisis but not sure she would for him. Does that sound like someone choosing to allow or be in a toxic situation or something else?

To be clear, I'm pretty sure that, despite how she's talked to me, she'd be there for my wife and me in a crisis...as I would for her and her husband and family.

What I have much less confidence in, unfortunately, is that she has the same trust in me. She's said some pretty awful stuff, incredibly self-righteous, yet immensely hostile...so she'd very likely not be willing to openly admit such trust at present. She's had multiple opportunities, but refused to take them. I can only hope that deep down, she knows I'd be there for her...

Meanwhile, it's quite sad to me.
To Joes' attempted point, no this is not a choice as to whether it's toxic...it simply is.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 1:45 pm**

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:43 pm
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:39 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.
i disagree, Joe. It's toxic because it's toxic. I'm not a young man and I've never been bothered by someone's political view... until Trump. Because this moves away from a political view and explicitly into character. And, yes, I can create a wall to shield me from these people. And, when necessary, i do. but I prefer to just create distance. I feel no reason to protect myself from toxic people. I prefer to create distance.
not for nuthin', but all caps is read as yelling. Multiple yells in a sentence or paragraph expresses anger. And repeated emoji's, whether eyeballing or laughing comes across as a hand or slap in the face.

On the politics, frankly I don't mind reading the posts of someone who supports Trump, including continuing to support Trump (which does seem bonkers to me post insurrection and the Big Lie), posting about their rationale for such support...as long as it isn't this angry, in your face, attacking, taunting and trolling mode that so many seem to have adopted. Goes the other way as well.

Humor, eg political cartoons etc is another matter.

I think it's actually possible to strenuously disagree on a topic, without going ballistic...and strenuous disagreement is just fine. But please present the facts and logic that support your view and be willing to have those facts and logic challenged in return. If you're unwilling to engage in a fact-based discussion, you're just trolling. And if you're outright lying...get outta here...

Do you know how sanctimonious you come across, are you even capable of realizing that??? "All caps is yelling" What does that scare you or something? You are incapable of being wrong, incapable of not thinking you can explain something to someone by spinning it into your doubletalk. I could give two dump what someone else's political views are, even if it does involve Trump. Do yourself a large favor and quit spending so much damn time thinking about the guy. It's unhealthy and certainly unproductive and bears itself out in the posts you make here. Would you act this sanctimonious in a real person to person conversation/argument? I doubt it because there would be many that say, "sayonara MD, be well!" It never ceases to amaze me the level of ego you possess.

Mind-numbing, just absolutely mind-numbing. Find a hobby besides throwing out ideas of what shouldn't and should not be allowed to be posted on a Lacrosse Forum Website. Jeez.

JoeMauer89!

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 1:47 pm**

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:02 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:49 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:09 am
Tommy No wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:57 am
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:45 am Why ever happened to LadyLaker?
Very close friend of mine, married to one of my oldest and best friends. Very, very funny gal, acerbic wit, and extremely knowledgeable about refereeing the women's game. Pretty darn knowledgeable about local MIAA boys schools as well, given long stint at BL. Good person. Two great daughters.

Terrific contributor on LP, especially on lax topics.

However...her other social media world became full on deep Trumpist...way, way down the rathole of Trumpism. Angry stuff as well as humor. I tried to engage respectfully early days...no possibility of return, so now avoid.

IMO, this Trump cult social media thing has had rather devastating effects.
Wow. That's awful. Just awful. I'm sorry...
I still consider her a good person and a good friend, who'd be there in a crisis...not sure she'd say the same about me these days...this stuff is so toxic.
It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.

JoeMauer89!
You picked that word out of the entire post to focus on? Not the part about how he’s still be there for her in a crisis but not sure she would for him. Does that sound like someone choosing to allow or be in a toxic situation or something else?
To be clear, I'm pretty sure that, despite how she's talked to me, she'd be there for my wife and me in a crisis...as I would for her and her husband and family.

What I have much less confidence in, unfortunately, is that she has the same trust in me. She's said some pretty awful stuff, incredibly self-righteous, yet immensely hostile...so she'd very likely not be willing to openly admit such trust at present. She's had multiple opportunities, but refused to take them. I can only hope that deep down, she knows I'd be there for her...

Meanwhile, it's quite sad to me.
To Joes' attempted point, no this is not a choice as to whether it's toxic...it simply is.

That's YOUR perception of her, those words ARE not out of HER OWN mouth. Again, unless LadyLaker was here to elaborate on this point, your making an awful biased assumption based on your narrow egotistical worldview..

Everything in life has two sides, its not "It simply is" It only is if YOU perceive it be that way, not because MDlaxfan76 proclaims so. Do you realize that the way you make such statements you sound like you are speaking for EVERYBODY!!..

JoeMauer89!

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 1:59 pm**

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:45 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:43 pm
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:39 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.
i disagree, Joe. It's toxic because it's toxic. I'm not a young man and I've never been bothered by someone's political view... until Trump. Because this moves away from a political view and explicitly into character. And, yes, I can create a wall to shield me from these people. And, when necessary, i do. but I prefer to just create distance. I feel no reason to protect myself from toxic people. I prefer to create distance.
not for nuthin', but all caps is read as yelling. Multiple yells in a sentence or paragraph expresses anger. And repeated emoji's, whether eyeballing or laughing comes across as a hand or slap in the face.

On the politics, frankly I don't mind reading the posts of someone who supports Trump, including continuing to support Trump (which does seem bonkers to me post insurrection and the Big Lie), posting about their rationale for such support...as long as it isn't this angry, in your face, attacking, taunting and trolling mode that so many seem to have adopted. Goes the other way as well.

Humor, eg political cartoons etc is another matter.

I think it's actually possible to strenuously disagree on a topic, without going ballistic...and strenuous disagreement is just fine. But please present the facts and logic that support your view and be willing to have those facts and logic challenged in return. If you're unwilling to engage in a fact-based discussion, you're just trolling. And if you're outright lying...get outta here...
Do you know how sanctimonious you come across, are you even capable of realizing that??? "All caps is yelling" What does that scare you or something? You are incapable of being wrong, incapable of not thinking you can explain something to someone by spinning it into your doubletalk. I could give two dump what someone else's political views are, even if it does involve Trump. Do yourself a large favor and quit spending so much damn time thinking about the guy. It's unhealthy and certainly unproductive and bears itself out in the posts you make here. Would you act this sanctimonious in a real person to person conversation/argument? I doubt it because there would be many that say, "sayonara MD, be well!" It never ceases to amaze me the level of ego you possess.

Mind-numbing, just absolutely mind-numbing. Find a hobby besides throwing out ideas of what shouldn't and should not be allowed to be posted on a Lacrosse Forum Website. Jeez.

JoeMauer89!

Joe, it's the topic of the thread.
It's a discussion, not a personal attack zone.

Yelling at people is not helpful.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 1:59 pm**

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:45 pmDo you know how sanctimonious you come across, are you even capable of realizing that??? "All caps is yelling" What does that scare you or something?...

All Caps is yelling. Toxic is toxic. Attacking people is attacking people...

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 2:00 pm**

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:02 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:49 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:09 am
Tommy No wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:57 am
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:45 am Why ever happened to LadyLaker?
Very close friend of mine, married to one of my oldest and best friends. Very, very funny gal, acerbic wit, and extremely knowledgeable about refereeing the women's game. Pretty darn knowledgeable about local MIAA boys schools as well, given long stint at BL. Good person. Two great daughters.

Terrific contributor on LP, especially on lax topics.

However...her other social media world became full on deep Trumpist...way, way down the rathole of Trumpism. Angry stuff as well as humor. I tried to engage respectfully early days...no possibility of return, so now avoid.

IMO, this Trump cult social media thing has had rather devastating effects.
Wow. That's awful. Just awful. I'm sorry...
I still consider her a good person and a good friend, who'd be there in a crisis...not sure she'd say the same about me these days...this stuff is so toxic.
It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.

JoeMauer89!
You picked that word out of the entire post to focus on? Not the part about how he’s still be there for her in a crisis but not sure she would for him. Does that sound like someone choosing to allow or be in a toxic situation or something else?
To be clear, I'm pretty sure that, despite how she's talked to me, she'd be there for my wife and me in a crisis...as I would for her and her husband and family.

What I have much less confidence in, unfortunately, is that she has the same trust in me. She's said some pretty awful stuff, incredibly self-righteous, yet immensely hostile...so she'd very likely not be willing to openly admit such trust at present. She's had multiple opportunities, but refused to take them. I can only hope that deep down, she knows I'd be there for her...

Meanwhile, it's quite sad to me.
To Joes' attempted point, no this is not a choice as to whether it's toxic...it simply is.

I miss her. Very nice person and I am hoping to see her again. She and her husband are nice people.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 2:01 pm**

I find the overuse (often incongruous within context of string) of emojis to be some passive aggressive weak a** stuff too myself but that’s just me.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 2:03 pm**

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:52 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:57 am I'd be all for getting rid of the Politics section in Fanlax, or moving it all to Hamsterdam.
There's already politics threads on there...but pretty much none of us want to participate with the no rules. We voted with our posts.

A notch more moderation at least has a solid chance of restoring the environment here to one which is more inviting of actual discourse.

I find it particularly interesting that many of the people here are calling for MORE moderation. Especially given the rhetoric these same people were using when this place opened. Lots were cheering about finally being out of the shade of oppressive LP Moderation.

It seems people were full of bullish and want that Mod on the wall. They NEED that Mod on the wall.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 2:05 pm**

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:47 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:02 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:49 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:09 am
Tommy No wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:57 am
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:45 am Why ever happened to LadyLaker?
Very close friend of mine, married to one of my oldest and best friends. Very, very funny gal, acerbic wit, and extremely knowledgeable about refereeing the women's game. Pretty darn knowledgeable about local MIAA boys schools as well, given long stint at BL. Good person. Two great daughters.

Terrific contributor on LP, especially on lax topics.

However...her other social media world became full on deep Trumpist...way, way down the rathole of Trumpism. Angry stuff as well as humor. I tried to engage respectfully early days...no possibility of return, so now avoid.

IMO, this Trump cult social media thing has had rather devastating effects.
Wow. That's awful. Just awful. I'm sorry...
I still consider her a good person and a good friend, who'd be there in a crisis...not sure she'd say the same about me these days...this stuff is so toxic.
It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.

JoeMauer89!
You picked that word out of the entire post to focus on? Not the part about how he’s still be there for her in a crisis but not sure she would for him. Does that sound like someone choosing to allow or be in a toxic situation or something else?
To be clear, I'm pretty sure that, despite how she's talked to me, she'd be there for my wife and me in a crisis...as I would for her and her husband and family.

What I have much less confidence in, unfortunately, is that she has the same trust in me. She's said some pretty awful stuff, incredibly self-righteous, yet immensely hostile...so she'd very likely not be willing to openly admit such trust at present. She's had multiple opportunities, but refused to take them. I can only hope that deep down, she knows I'd be there for her...

Meanwhile, it's quite sad to me.
To Joes' attempted point, no this is not a choice as to whether it's toxic...it simply is.
That's YOUR perception of her, those words ARE not out of HER OWN mouth. Again, unless LadyLaker was here to elaborate on this point, your making an awful biased assumption based on your narrow egotistical worldview..

Everything in life has two sides, its not "It simply is" It only is if YOU perceive it be that way, not because MDlaxfan76 proclaims so. Do you realize that the way you make such statements you sound like you are speaking for EVERYBODY!!..

JoeMauer89!

I'm speaking for myself, Joe.
Others are free to express themselves, whether in agreement or disagreement.

As to my friend, yes, I'm very, very sure of what she's said and written directly to me, not on some anonymous forum. I find it sad that a 45 + year friend would speak that way to someone who has been there with her and her husband through thick and thin...again, I'm speaking for myself when I express myself as to that's how I feel.

I don't know why you insist on going ballistic at me, yet again, but there you go...

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 2:06 pm**

Tommy No wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:59 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:45 pmDo you know how sanctimonious you come across, are you even capable of realizing that??? "All caps is yelling" What does that scare you or something?...
All Caps is yelling. Toxic is toxic. Attacking people is attacking people...

I know, the intention is to yell. If I am doing that it's because I want to.

JoeMauer89!

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 2:06 pm**

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:00 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:02 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:49 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:21 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:09 am
Tommy No wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 10:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:57 am
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:45 am Why ever happened to LadyLaker?
Very close friend of mine, married to one of my oldest and best friends. Very, very funny gal, acerbic wit, and extremely knowledgeable about refereeing the women's game. Pretty darn knowledgeable about local MIAA boys schools as well, given long stint at BL. Good person. Two great daughters.

Terrific contributor on LP, especially on lax topics.

However...her other social media world became full on deep Trumpist...way, way down the rathole of Trumpism. Angry stuff as well as humor. I tried to engage respectfully early days...no possibility of return, so now avoid.

IMO, this Trump cult social media thing has had rather devastating effects.
Wow. That's awful. Just awful. I'm sorry...
I still consider her a good person and a good friend, who'd be there in a crisis...not sure she'd say the same about me these days...this stuff is so toxic.
It's ONLY toxic if you CHOOSE to let it be. Judge one on their character, not their political views. Think past the wall you have in front of you.

JoeMauer89!
You picked that word out of the entire post to focus on? Not the part about how he’s still be there for her in a crisis but not sure she would for him. Does that sound like someone choosing to allow or be in a toxic situation or something else?
To be clear, I'm pretty sure that, despite how she's talked to me, she'd be there for my wife and me in a crisis...as I would for her and her husband and family.

What I have much less confidence in, unfortunately, is that she has the same trust in me. She's said some pretty awful stuff, incredibly self-righteous, yet immensely hostile...so she'd very likely not be willing to openly admit such trust at present. She's had multiple opportunities, but refused to take them. I can only hope that deep down, she knows I'd be there for her...

Meanwhile, it's quite sad to me.
To Joes' attempted point, no this is not a choice as to whether it's toxic...it simply is.
I miss her. Very nice person and I am hoping to see her again. She and her husband are nice people.

+1.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 2:09 pm**

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:59 pm On the politics, frankly I don't mind reading the posts of someone who supports Trump, including continuing to support Trump (which does seem bonkers to me post insurrection and the Big Lie), posting about their rationale for such support...as long as it isn't this angry, in your face, attacking, taunting and trolling mode that so many seem to have adopted. Goes the other way as well.

Humor, eg political cartoons etc is another matter.

I think it's actually possible to strenuously disagree on a topic, without going ballistic...and strenuous disagreement is just fine. But please present the facts and logic that support your view and be willing to have those facts and logic challenged in return. If you're unwilling to engage in a fact-based discussion, you're just trolling. And if you're outright lying...get outta here...

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:47 pm Everything in life has two sides, its not "It simply is" It only is if YOU perceive it be that way, not because MDlaxfan76 proclaims so. Do you realize that the way you make such statements you sound like you are speaking for EVERYBODY!!.

I did not read MD's post (above) as such. At all.

Not everything in life has two sides. Everything in life can be argued as if there were two sides but... Not everything in life has two sides. Some things are just simple, irrefutable truths. And, I hte to say this but I think one of these truths is that MD's posts aren't nearly as bad or whatever as you see them. MD may be bad or whatever (though i don't believe him to be). But his posts seem pretty innocuous. If anything, I thought his post showed some vulnerability, the opposite of arrogant or whatever.

Posted: **Fri May 14, 2021 2:09 pm**

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:01 pm I find the overuse (often incongruous within context of string) of emojis to be some passive aggressive weak a** stuff too myself but that’s just me.

It's not passive aggressive, I wouldn't' t be afraid to tell it like it is right to his face either. That's my point.

JoeMauer89!

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