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Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:31 am**

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:13 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:52 am 2.10 Florida
2.16 at American
2.21 at Johns Hopkins

3.2 Penn St
3.6 at Georgetown
3.9 Towson
3.16 at Army
3.20 Navy
3.23 at Lehigh
3.27 at Syracuse
3.30 Colgate

4.6 at Lafayette
4.10 Princeton
4.13 Boston University
4.17 at Penn
4.20 at Holy Cross
4.25 Bucknell
It’s not Loyola’s fault that the patriot league is weak…
But their out of conference scheduling is meh. Cuse is always tough. Florida could regress significantly with lopinto , browndorf, Resnick etc gone.
Jhu and penn and penn state 15-30 programs. Princeton who knows this year.

For a program with the reputation Loyola has, I’m surprised they don’t try to schedule more top 15 teams. Maybe they do and nobody will play them.

I'd grade the OOC portion of their schedule a 7 or 8 out of 10. Not too shabby when you compare them with other teams. Tough when you play in the Patriot though. I agree with you there.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:37 am**

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:13 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:52 am 2.10 Florida
2.16 at American
2.21 at Johns Hopkins

3.2 Penn St
3.6 at Georgetown
3.9 Towson
3.16 at Army
3.20 Navy
3.23 at Lehigh
3.27 at Syracuse
3.30 Colgate

4.6 at Lafayette
4.10 Princeton
4.13 Boston University
4.17 at Penn
4.20 at Holy Cross
4.25 Bucknell
It’s not Loyola’s fault that the patriot league is weak…
But their out of conference scheduling is meh. Cuse is always tough. Florida could regress significantly with lopinto , browndorf, Resnick etc gone.
Jhu and penn and penn state 15-30 programs. Princeton who knows this year.

For a program with the reputation Loyola has, I’m surprised they don’t try to schedule more top 15 teams. Maybe they do and nobody will play them.

Don't think it's terrible. Hopkins is going to be significantly better this year. Towson should be better as well. Throw out the Patriot league games minus Army Navy and possibly Lehigh and the schedule isn't that soft. It's not ACC like or the schedule Liberty is looking at but I didn't think it was meh. Certainly better than other teams out of conference schedule like Clemson. Still think Loyola takes a step back this year.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:39 am**

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:13 am
For a program with the reputation Loyola has, I’m surprised they don’t try to schedule more top 15 teams. Maybe they do and nobody will play them.

There is some truth to this....

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 am**

Want to talk about a poor schedule for a Top 20 team. UMass. Wow. it''s weak.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:07 pm**

Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 am Want to talk about a poor schedule for a Top 20 team. UMass. Wow. it''s weak.

It always is. But for some reason they manage to get ranked by going 16-2 against that schedule and somehow get an at-large bid to NCAA tournament just to get embarrassed in first round. They won't change their scheduling until they stop getting rewarded for it.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:53 pm**

hmmm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:07 pm
Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 am Want to talk about a poor schedule for a Top 20 team. UMass. Wow. it''s weak.
It always is. But for some reason they manage to get ranked by going 16-2 against that schedule and somehow get an at-large bid to NCAA tournament just to get embarrassed in first round. They won't change their scheduling until they stop getting rewarded for it.

No way the A10 gets an at large bid to the dance. Conference isn't strong enough for 2 bids.
I'm sure they've always gotten in due to being the A10 champs.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:58 pm**

NULax2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:53 pm
hmmm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:07 pm
Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 am Want to talk about a poor schedule for a Top 20 team. UMass. Wow. it''s weak.
It always is. But for some reason they manage to get ranked by going 16-2 against that schedule and somehow get an at-large bid to NCAA tournament just to get embarrassed in first round. They won't change their scheduling until they stop getting rewarded for it.
No way the A10 gets an at large bid to the dance. Conference isn't strong enough for 2 bids.
I'm sure they've always gotten in due to being the A10 champs.

Umm, UMass has been an at-large team in last 2 tournaments. Richmond won A-10 last year. St. Joe's won in 2022. Lost 15-9 to Princeton in first round in 2022. Lost 19-8 to Hopkins in first round last year.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:02 pm**

Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:39 am
Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:13 am
For a program with the reputation Loyola has, I’m surprised they don’t try to schedule more top 15 teams. Maybe they do and nobody will play them.
There is some truth to this....

you have to factor in that most of these smaller private and public colleges don't have the budget to do long trips (airline and hotel) so they have to stay within a bus ride which limits who they can have on their schedules. Also with the ACC and Big Ten expanding that is going to limit the OOC games that can be added.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:36 pm**

hmmm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:58 pm
NULax2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:53 pm
hmmm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:07 pm
Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 am Want to talk about a poor schedule for a Top 20 team. UMass. Wow. it''s weak.
It always is. But for some reason they manage to get ranked by going 16-2 against that schedule and somehow get an at-large bid to NCAA tournament just to get embarrassed in first round. They won't change their scheduling until they stop getting rewarded for it.
No way the A10 gets an at large bid to the dance. Conference isn't strong enough for 2 bids.
I'm sure they've always gotten in due to being the A10 champs.
Umm, UMass has been an at-large team in last 2 tournaments. Richmond won A-10 last year. St. Joe's won in 2022. Lost 15-9 to Princeton in first round in 2022. Lost 19-8 to Hopkins in first round last year.

My mistake, they were regular season champs the last 2 yrs and lost in the A10 Tourney.

Their 24 schedule doesn't look too bad. Besides the 9 A10 games, they play 7 OCC games including BC, Brown & Dartmouth.
https://umassathletics.com/news/2023/12 ... e-for-2024

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:44 pm**

NULax2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:36 pm Their 24 schedule doesn't look too bad. Besides the 9 A10 games, they play 7 OCC games including BC, Brown & Dartmouth.

Agreed. I've seen a lot worse.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:53 pm**

NULax2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:36 pm
hmmm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:58 pm
NULax2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:53 pm
hmmm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:07 pm
Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 am Want to talk about a poor schedule for a Top 20 team. UMass. Wow. it''s weak.
It always is. But for some reason they manage to get ranked by going 16-2 against that schedule and somehow get an at-large bid to NCAA tournament just to get embarrassed in first round. They won't change their scheduling until they stop getting rewarded for it.
No way the A10 gets an at large bid to the dance. Conference isn't strong enough for 2 bids.
I'm sure they've always gotten in due to being the A10 champs.
Umm, UMass has been an at-large team in last 2 tournaments. Richmond won A-10 last year. St. Joe's won in 2022. Lost 15-9 to Princeton in first round in 2022. Lost 19-8 to Hopkins in first round last year.
My mistake, they were regular season champs the last 2 yrs and lost in the A10 Tourney.

Their 24 schedule doesn't look too bad. Besides the 9 A10 games, they play 7 OCC games including BC, Brown & Dartmouth.
https://umassathletics.com/news/2023/12 ... e-for-2024

BC absolutely. Dartmouth and Brown not so much. They are kinda outside top 40-50 . If the team was Delaware or Lehigh I would say the schedule isn't bad, but this is supposedly a top 20 team.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:09 pm**

Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:53 pm
NULax2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:36 pm
hmmm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:58 pm
NULax2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:53 pm
hmmm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:07 pm
Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 am Want to talk about a poor schedule for a Top 20 team. UMass. Wow. it''s weak.
It always is. But for some reason they manage to get ranked by going 16-2 against that schedule and somehow get an at-large bid to NCAA tournament just to get embarrassed in first round. They won't change their scheduling until they stop getting rewarded for it.
No way the A10 gets an at large bid to the dance. Conference isn't strong enough for 2 bids.
I'm sure they've always gotten in due to being the A10 champs.
Umm, UMass has been an at-large team in last 2 tournaments. Richmond won A-10 last year. St. Joe's won in 2022. Lost 15-9 to Princeton in first round in 2022. Lost 19-8 to Hopkins in first round last year.
My mistake, they were regular season champs the last 2 yrs and lost in the A10 Tourney.

Their 24 schedule doesn't look too bad. Besides the 9 A10 games, they play 7 OCC games including BC, Brown & Dartmouth.
https://umassathletics.com/news/2023/12 ... e-for-2024
BC absolutely. Dartmouth and Brown not so much. They are kinda outside top 40-50 . If the team was Delaware or Lehigh I would say the schedule isn't bad, but this is supposedly a top 20 team.

Brown finished last year with an RPI of 46 and Dartmouth was at 63.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:12 pm**

Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:53 pm BC absolutely. Dartmouth and Brown not so much. They are kinda outside top 40-50 . If the team was Delaware or Lehigh I would say the schedule isn't bad, but this is supposedly a top 20 team.

Fair point. They didn't look like a top 20 in the Tournament when up-and-coming Hop laid a running clock trip to the woodshed on 'em. Maybe the days of resting on their laurels is over--as hmmm alluded to earlier.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:19 pm**

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:12 pm
Relax77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:53 pm BC absolutely. Dartmouth and Brown not so much. They are kinda outside top 40-50 . If the team was Delaware or Lehigh I would say the schedule isn't bad, but this is supposedly a top 20 team.
Fair point. They didn't look like a top 20 in the Tournament when up-and-coming Hop laid a running clock trip to the woodshed on 'em. Maybe the days of resting on their laurels is over--as hmmm alluded to earlier.

Hopefully.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:30 pm**

whyamihere wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:02 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:39 am
Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:13 am
For a program with the reputation Loyola has, I’m surprised they don’t try to schedule more top 15 teams. Maybe they do and nobody will play them.
There is some truth to this....
you have to factor in that most of these smaller private and public colleges don't have the budget to do long trips (airline and hotel) so they have to stay within a bus ride which limits who they can have on their schedules. Also with the ACC and Big Ten expanding that is going to limit the OOC games that can be added.

Transportation cost/distance was not an issue.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:17 pm**

Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:30 pm
whyamihere wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:02 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:39 am
Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:13 am
For a program with the reputation Loyola has, I’m surprised they don’t try to schedule more top 15 teams. Maybe they do and nobody will play them.
There is some truth to this....
you have to factor in that most of these smaller private and public colleges don't have the budget to do long trips (airline and hotel) so they have to stay within a bus ride which limits who they can have on their schedules. Also with the ACC and Big Ten expanding that is going to limit the OOC games that can be added.
Transportation cost/distance was not an issue.

Transportation cost/distance is very much a determining factor for schools the size of Loyola when making schedules for any sport.

Posted: **Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:46 pm**

whyamihere wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:17 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:30 pm
whyamihere wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:02 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:39 am
Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:13 am
For a program with the reputation Loyola has, I’m surprised they don’t try to schedule more top 15 teams. Maybe they do and nobody will play them.
There is some truth to this....
you have to factor in that most of these smaller private and public colleges don't have the budget to do long trips (airline and hotel) so they have to stay within a bus ride which limits who they can have on their schedules. Also with the ACC and Big Ten expanding that is going to limit the OOC games that can be added.
Transportation cost/distance was not an issue.
Transportation cost/distance is very much a determining factor for schools the size of Loyola when making schedules for any sport.

OK. I guess you may know more about Loyola than I do. Regardless, my comment and emphasis was that there are teams that would not schedule Loyola, and it didn't have anything to do with distance.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:40 am**

Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:46 pm
whyamihere wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:17 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:30 pm
whyamihere wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:02 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:39 am
Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:13 am
For a program with the reputation Loyola has, I’m surprised they don’t try to schedule more top 15 teams. Maybe they do and nobody will play them.
There is some truth to this....
you have to factor in that most of these smaller private and public colleges don't have the budget to do long trips (airline and hotel) so they have to stay within a bus ride which limits who they can have on their schedules. Also with the ACC and Big Ten expanding that is going to limit the OOC games that can be added.
Transportation cost/distance was not an issue.
Transportation cost/distance is very much a determining factor for schools the size of Loyola when making schedules for any sport.
OK. I guess you may know more about Loyola than I do. Regardless, my comment and emphasis was that there are teams that would not schedule Loyola, and it didn't have anything to do with distance.

Doc's being modest, whyamihere. He's humbly reluctant to reveal his credentials, if you will, but trust me--he fully knows whereof he speaks concerning all things Loyola.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:29 am**

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:05 am Denver Pioneers

2.9 Louisville
2.17 at Michigan
2.23 Ohio St
2.25 San Diego St

3.2 Maryland
3.8 at Northwestern
3.17 Stanford
3.23 Connecticut
3.29 at Georgetown

4.3 Colorado
4.6 Marquette
4.10 at Butler
4.14 Arizona St
4.20 at Villanova
4.22 at Yale
4.27 Xavier

Well, well! Denver just added an opponent to their 2024 slate. Insert in the March 11th slot a certain Seawolves team hailing from Stony Brook--with the Pioneers taking the flight east.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:36 pm**

Comparisons were made about UMass's relatively easy out of conference opponents. None here. This is a tough OOC slate.

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