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Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 12:35 pm
by DMac
a fan wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:46 am
runrussellrun wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:35 am
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:02 am I saw this ad yesterday and had to laugh.
Welcome back Clydesdale, welcome back
flag, welcome back Carharts and flannel. Carharts are made , in what country ?
Gotta get the dog back now.
Just too funny, and I'm not sure it's going
to work. Lotta those drinking Yuengling
now probably thinking it's a whole lot
better than what they were drinking before.
Who do you think owns Budweiser? The Americans?

Yuengling is now the largest American brewer. Good on ya, Dmac.
Don't know where Carharts are made (China?) but it doesn't matter.
It's the good old American construction boy, farmer, blue collar type
who wears them (what do you figure my redneck country boy son
wears?) that Bud aiming their ad at.
Nope, don't think Americans own Bud. Yuengling is high on my list
of favorite beers, outstanding stuff. Couldn't get it in these parts
not all that long ago.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pm
by DMac
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:05 pm
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:54 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:18 am
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:02 am I saw this ad yesterday and had to laugh.
Welcome back Clydesdale, welcome back
flag, welcome back Carharts and flannel.
Gotta get the dog back now.
Just too funny, and I'm not sure it's going
to work. Lotta those drinking Yuengling
now probably thinking it's a whole lot
better than what they were drinking before.
Yeah! Hooah! Missed parts of the target audience though - were was the AR toting guy and the woman with the anti-abortion poster?

Renaming French fries to freedom fries lasted about 15 minutes. The Dylan uproar will last about 16. Just like how everyone predicted the NFL and Nike would go out of business because of Kaepernick.

It’s remarkable how the people doing all this complaining over A-B doing a minor on-line ad that would’ve been seen by a trivial number of people had it not been for conservative media have the audacity to call others snowflakes. Sorry, but some LGBTQ+ people drink beer, too.
The point of the snowflakes comment is that it seems perfectly okay to be offensive when it is you doing the offending, not so much when someone uses a word you find offensive though.
We'll see about the sixteen minutes. Personally I hope it lasts a bit longer as I find the whole thing quite entertaining at this point. As a dog lover I'm very much looking forward to the heartstring pulling dog coming back. The scrambling ad execs are going to have to give the groomers a call and get the hugely popular breed that appeals to the masses lookin' pretty for his (uh oh, perhaps better to not disclose gender here?) comeback. Meanwhile those greasing the squeaky wheel on the seed spreader might want to check the oil on the harvester.
Dmac, I interpreted your comment as suggesting I was including you in the snowflake category because of the recent couple of posts re: words, and you felt the need for additional explanation. That wasn’t my intention. The snowflakes are those who’ve drank and enjoyed BL for years but now refuse to drink it because A-B believes there’s a large enough portion of the LGBTQ+ community who drinks it or similar beverages that they should also market to them. If you’re in that latter group, then yes, you’re a snowflake. ;-)
My snowflake comment was more directed at NattyBo than anyone. Quick to jump on others for their offensiveness while being offensive himself.
If I drank Bud Light I'd still be drinking it and not give a schidt what anybody thought of that. Never drank it before, still don't.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 12:47 pm
by a fan
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:35 pm
Nope, don't think Americans own Bud. Yuengling is high on my list
of favorite beers, outstanding stuff. Couldn't get it in these parts
not all that long ago.
The Bud comment wasn't directed to you, Dmac!

I LOVE Yuengling. I'm a lager beer guy, for the most part.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 12:51 pm
by DMac
Just went to the store, got some nice Kaiser rolls and sub rolls (Price Chopper here makes outstand bread(s)), a lemon too.
Couldn't help but notice all the strategically placed, neatly stacked, and nicely displayed beer cases that are in places they normally aren't. Memeorial Day week-end and all, ya know, lotta beer will be sold. Not one Bud display, not one, anywhere. Must be they're not looking to up their profits with that brand this Memorial Day week-end. Maybe next year.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 1:16 pm
by NattyBohChamps04
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pmMy snowflake comment was more directed at NattyBo than anyone. Quick to jump on others for their offensiveness while being offensive himself.
If I drank Bud Light I'd still be drinking it and not give a schidt what anybody thought of that. Never drank it before, still don't.
I use the term 'snowflake' because of conservatives' constant use of the word. Because they're the ones getting upset and offended by something like a beer can with a trans person on it.

And yes, I'm calling people offended by Bud Light advertising to trans people snowflakes. If you're offended by the term snowflake, then that's your right.

There's a difference in being offensive to people who are being hateful and actively harming others vs. being offensive to innocent people who are just trying to live their lives with little to no impact on others.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 1:25 pm
by jhu72
Yuengling is my "house beer". Not my favorite beer but good beer for the price. Calling Budweiser or any of the "lite beers" beer, insults all true beer.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 1:28 pm
by DMac
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:16 pm
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pmMy snowflake comment was more directed at NattyBo than anyone. Quick to jump on others for their offensiveness while being offensive himself.
If I drank Bud Light I'd still be drinking it and not give a schidt what anybody thought of that. Never drank it before, still don't.
I use the term 'snowflake' because of conservatives' constant use of the word. Because they're the ones getting upset and offended by something like a beer can with a trans person on it.

And yes, I'm calling people offended by Bud Light advertising to trans people snowflakes. If you're offended by the term snowflake, then that's your right.

There's a difference in being offensive to people who are being hateful and actively harming others vs. being offensive to innocent people who are just trying to live their lives with little to no impact on others.
Couldn't be that they (certainly not restricted to conservatives) are just a little tired of trans-activists pushing their agenda and jamming it down everyone's throat? Most just don't care about this (at least I think that) but that squeaky wheel sure is getting a lot of grease these days, the subject is pretty much unavoidable. The Bud Light debacle appears to me to just be the final straw.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 1:38 pm
by jhu72
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:28 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:16 pm
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pmMy snowflake comment was more directed at NattyBo than anyone. Quick to jump on others for their offensiveness while being offensive himself.
If I drank Bud Light I'd still be drinking it and not give a schidt what anybody thought of that. Never drank it before, still don't.
I use the term 'snowflake' because of conservatives' constant use of the word. Because they're the ones getting upset and offended by something like a beer can with a trans person on it.

And yes, I'm calling people offended by Bud Light advertising to trans people snowflakes. If you're offended by the term snowflake, then that's your right.

There's a difference in being offensive to people who are being hateful and actively harming others vs. being offensive to innocent people who are just trying to live their lives with little to no impact on others.
Couldn't be that they (certainly not restricted to conservatives) are just a little tired of trans-activists pushing their agenda and jamming it down everyone's throat? Most just don't care about this (at least I think that) but that squeaky wheel sure is getting a lot of grease these days, the subject is pretty much unavoidable. The Bud Light debacle appears to me to just be the final straw.
... "jamming it down everyone's throat?" Most people didn't know who or what the trans chick was before the boycott brought it to everyone's attention.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 1:45 pm
by MDlaxfan76
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:28 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:16 pm
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pmMy snowflake comment was more directed at NattyBo than anyone. Quick to jump on others for their offensiveness while being offensive himself.
If I drank Bud Light I'd still be drinking it and not give a schidt what anybody thought of that. Never drank it before, still don't.
I use the term 'snowflake' because of conservatives' constant use of the word. Because they're the ones getting upset and offended by something like a beer can with a trans person on it.

And yes, I'm calling people offended by Bud Light advertising to trans people snowflakes. If you're offended by the term snowflake, then that's your right.

There's a difference in being offensive to people who are being hateful and actively harming others vs. being offensive to innocent people who are just trying to live their lives with little to no impact on others.
Couldn't be that they (certainly not restricted to conservative) are just a little tired of trans-activists pushing their agenda and jamming it down everyone's throat? Most just don't care about this (at least I think that) but that squeaky wheel sure is getting a lot of grease these days, the subject is pretty much unavoidable. The Bud Light debacle appears to me to just be the final straw.
It's this sort of argument that truly has me puzzled. A neighbor friend with whom I regularly discuss politics (he's an ex-Trumpist, not 100% captured by right wing media as he's in the markets, so see WSJ, Bloomberg etc...and thinks Fox Business is trash). Very nice guy, but he tends to get on a hot jag at times...likes to see how I'll respond.

He used the same language about "trans agenda" and "jamming down our throats". I mean, really? What's this "agenda", please respect our right to live and be how we want to be, don't bully us, don't beat us up...rather 'ally' with us? Is this 'trans' issue really just the newest way to express distaste for homosexuality in general?

And what the heck is being "jammed down our throats"??? A beer marketer paid a young influencer to tout the beer in a way that was a bit edgy...to her followers...would any of us have ever seen it, much less had it "jammed down our throats" if some right wing digital extremists hadn't picked it up and made a big deal about it? I sure wouldn't have known about it.

And really, Target (and pretty much every other mass market retailer with a customer base that skews younger) displays some rainbow clothing and we go nuts about it? Is anyone making me buy it? No. Heck, when was the last time any of us even went into a Target? I might do so twice a year at most...

Where is all this outrage coming from, really?

Yes, "snowflakes" is the right word for those who liked to bandy that about pejoratively about those who thought police violence was out of hand...

Now, I have multiple friends who are gay, or have family members who are gay, children who identify gender fluid etc, one transitioning I hear. I sure a heck hope these folks can live in a society more accepting of their choices than the one we grew up in...

It's not going to change any of my choices, so why should I get uptight about it?

And I guess it scares some people...

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 1:54 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:45 pm
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:28 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:16 pm
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pmMy snowflake comment was more directed at NattyBo than anyone. Quick to jump on others for their offensiveness while being offensive himself.
If I drank Bud Light I'd still be drinking it and not give a schidt what anybody thought of that. Never drank it before, still don't.
I use the term 'snowflake' because of conservatives' constant use of the word. Because they're the ones getting upset and offended by something like a beer can with a trans person on it.

And yes, I'm calling people offended by Bud Light advertising to trans people snowflakes. If you're offended by the term snowflake, then that's your right.

There's a difference in being offensive to people who are being hateful and actively harming others vs. being offensive to innocent people who are just trying to live their lives with little to no impact on others.
Couldn't be that they (certainly not restricted to conservative) are just a little tired of trans-activists pushing their agenda and jamming it down everyone's throat? Most just don't care about this (at least I think that) but that squeaky wheel sure is getting a lot of grease these days, the subject is pretty much unavoidable. The Bud Light debacle appears to me to just be the final straw.
It's this sort of argument that truly has me puzzled. A neighbor friend with whom I regularly discuss politics (he's an ex-Trumpist, not 100% captured by right wing media as he's in the markets, so see WSJ, Bloomberg etc...and thinks Fox Business is trash). Very nice guy, but he tends to get on a hot jag at times...likes to see how I'll respond.

He used the same language about "trans agenda" and "jamming down our throats". I mean, really? What's this "agenda", please respect our right to live and be how we want to be, don't bully us, don't beat us up...rather 'ally' with us? Is this 'trans' issue really just the newest way to express distaste for homosexuality in general?

And what the heck is being "jammed down our throats"??? A beer marketer paid a young influencer to tout the beer in a way that was a bit edgy...to her followers...would any of us have ever seen it, much less had it "jammed down our throats" if some right wing digital extremists hadn't picked it up and made a big deal about it? I sure wouldn't have known about it.

And really, Target (and pretty much every other mass market retailer with a customer base that skews younger) displays some rainbow clothing and we go nuts about it? Is anyone making me buy it? No. Heck, when was the last time any of us even went into a Target? I might do so twice a year at most...

Where is all this outrage coming from, really?

Yes, "snowflakes" is the right word for those who liked to bandy that about pejoratively about those who thought police violence was out of hand...

Now, I have multiple friends who are gay, or have family members who are gay, children who identify gender fluid etc, one transitioning I hear. I sure a heck hope these folks can live in a society more accepting of their choices than the one we grew up in...

It's not going to change any of my choices, so why should I get uptight about it?

And I guess it scares some people...
Basic human decency to others “not like us” is being jammed down people’s throats. This is the year 2023.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:26 pm
by DMac
Yeah, basic human decency, let my boy play on the girl's team.
I'm a bullschidtter, will extend human decency to anyone I meet, trans (afraid to attempt the plural here) included. I don't care, would welcome a discussion with one of that persuasion in a heartbeat. I've done business with many, many, many gays. Treated them no differently than anyone else. Gained their trust, made a friend, closed the deal....and more than likely had a customer who would come back and send in referrals (what do you think the odds of that referral being gay are?) For the most part gays are a pleasure to deal with. They come in with their guard up, seemingly looking for an opportunity to let you know you're a homophobic and looking for an opportunity to be confrontational. Once they recognize/realize you're not that at all, things go pretty smoothly with them in general. Most are decent people, squared away and finances in order. Got no problem with gays and trans (still can't figure out the acceptable plural there) and if you guys don't think this stuff is being jammed down people's throats look at the discussion you're in that you wouldn't be otherwise. GMAFB

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:42 pm
by MDlaxfan76
I've recommended this in the past: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/changing_the_game_2021

DMac, have you seen it?

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:59 pm
by DMac
Nope.
Your transgender athlete forces me to have a discussion with my daughter about why Christy, formerly Christopher (and still has all Christopher parts) about why SHE is playing on your team. Yes, this miniscule part of the population is jamming this down our throats.
The analysis, relying on government health surveys conducted from 2017 to 2020, estimated that 1.4 percent of 13- to 17-year-olds and 1.3 percent of 18- to 24-year-olds were transgender, compared with about 0.5 percent of all adults.
Granted, it's a tough situation for these few but that doesn't mean it has to be a tough situation for me.

I'm out...Denver-Northwestern

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 3:13 pm
by a fan
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:59 pm Nope.
Your transgender athlete forces me to have a discussion with my daughter about why Christy, formerly Christopher (and still has all Christopher parts) about why SHE is playing on your team. Yes, this miniscule part of the population is jamming this down our throats.
This is reasonable. Yes, have an opinion because of the sports thing, where it affects you and your community. But I'm sure you understand that you can turn the tables and say that you are cramming your agenda down THEIR throats. All depends on your perspective. And who's holding all the power? It's certainly not the transgendered athletes.

But the Bud light thing? That's not a trans agenda. That's just another American selling beer. No agenda. Just a person. Unless, of course, you want to also say that alllllll those White guys pimping beer in commercials over the decades have been cramming the White agenda down folks, throats.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 3:33 pm
by youthathletics
More common sense coming from outside the USA: https://metrovoicenews.com/norway-joins ... ce%2Dbased.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CstlyHWSyNN/

It is really as easy that.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 3:38 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:26 pm Yeah, basic human decency, let my boy play on the girl's team.
I'm a bullschidtter, will extend human decency to anyone I meet, trans (afraid to attempt the plural here) included. I don't care, would welcome a discussion with one of that persuasion in a heartbeat. I've done business with many, many, many gays. Treated them no differently than anyone else. Gained their trust, made a friend, closed the deal....and more than likely had a customer who would come back and send in referrals (what do you think the odds of that referral being gay are?) For the most part gays are a pleasure to deal with. They come in with their guard up, seemingly looking for an opportunity to let you know you're a homophobic and looking for an opportunity to be confrontational. Once they recognize/realize you're not that at all, things go pretty smoothly with them in general. Most are decent people, squared away and finances in order. Got no problem with gays and trans (still can't figure out the acceptable plural there) and if you guys don't think this stuff is being jammed down people's throats look at the discussion you're in that you wouldn't be otherwise. GMAFB
Don’t take it personally.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:09 pm
by jhu72
DMac wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:26 pm Yeah, basic human decency, let my boy play on the girl's team.
I'm a bullschidtter, will extend human decency to anyone I meet, trans (afraid to attempt the plural here) included. I don't care, would welcome a discussion with one of that persuasion in a heartbeat. I've done business with many, many, many gays. Treated them no differently than anyone else. Gained their trust, made a friend, closed the deal....and more than likely had a customer who would come back and send in referrals (what do you think the odds of that referral being gay are?) For the most part gays are a pleasure to deal with. They come in with their guard up, seemingly looking for an opportunity to let you know you're a homophobic and looking for an opportunity to be confrontational. Once they recognize/realize you're not that at all, things go pretty smoothly with them in general. Most are decent people, squared away and finances in order. Got no problem with gays and trans (still can't figure out the acceptable plural there) and if you guys don't think this stuff is being jammed down people's throats look at the discussion you're in that you wouldn't be otherwise. GMAFB
... I don't think the gays, trans, etc, are jamming anything down anyone's throat. They are reacting to the hate of others and making the statement they are not going away -- standing their ground. They didn't start this mess.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:18 pm
by jhu72
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 3:33 pm More common sense coming from outside the USA: https://metrovoicenews.com/norway-joins ... ce%2Dbased.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CstlyHWSyNN/

It is really as easy that.
... you are going to believe evil socialists? They are probably training them to throw bombs at banks. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:24 pm
by youthathletics
jhu72 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:18 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 3:33 pm More common sense coming from outside the USA: https://metrovoicenews.com/norway-joins ... ce%2Dbased.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CstlyHWSyNN/

It is really as easy that.
... you are going to believe evil socialists? They are probably training them to throw bombs at banks. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, considering we are also socialists, that seems to make us even worse thnt 'evil socialist'. Hell, we give protesters a pass when they do that here, even when they take over city square and burn down buildings. So yes, that does make us even worse than them.

Enjoy your weekend, while sipping your out of date bud light, and while you are at it, maybe you can get one of the [url=Well, considering we are also socialists, that seems to make us even worse that 'evil socialist'. Hell, we give protesters a pass when they do that here, even when they take over city square and burn down buildings. So yes, that does make us even worse than them.


Enjoy your weekend, while sipping your out of date bud light, and while you are at it, maybe you can get one of the bud light vouchers for a free case. :lol: bud light vouchers for a free case.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:40 pm
by jhu72
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:18 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 3:33 pm More common sense coming from outside the USA: https://metrovoicenews.com/norway-joins ... ce%2Dbased.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CstlyHWSyNN/

It is really as easy that.
... you are going to believe evil socialists? They are probably training them to throw bombs at banks. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, considering we are also socialists, that seems to make us even worse thnt 'evil socialist'. Hell, we give protesters a pass when they do that here, even when they take over city square and burn down buildings. So yes, that does make us even worse than them.

Enjoy your weekend, while sipping your out of date bud light, and while you are at it, maybe you can get one of the [url=Well, considering we are also socialists, that seems to make us even worse that 'evil socialist'. Hell, we give protesters a pass when they do that here, even when they take over city square and burn down buildings. So yes, that does make us even worse than them.


Enjoy your weekend, while sipping your out of date bud light, and while you are at it, maybe you can get one of the bud light vouchers for a free case. :lol: bud light vouchers for a free case.
... wouldn't drink bud light if they had Scarlett Johanson deliver it to my house personally.

It just occurred to me that your source article can't possibly be considered reliable. You got a reliable source on that socialist medicine thing?? Really smells like propaganda.