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elonmuskrockefeller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:32 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:04 pm

elonmuskrockefeller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:54 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:53 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:48 pm

Was looking into the news and see that right winger JD Vance won in Ohio. He had been endorsed by tRump. But interestingly, he did not acknowledge or thank the Chump in his victory speech! I wonder how that will be dealt with.

No problem for JD to keep shape shifting and re-branding himself with the prevailing wind. Remember that he first got famous as a Trump hater. Then said he had been wrong about Trump. Having gotten elected, he'll now dump Trump (or not) if that seems like the helpful thing to do.

You can say the same thing about pretty much all of his GOP Senate colleagues other than Mitt Romney.

Funny how Mittens is such a beloved individual in the eyes of
FLP Democrats. You sure despised him to no end when he was running for POTUS. It proves to me you folks know a chump when he falls into your lap.

He's obviously speaking to Romney voting to impeach Trump for his obvious abuse of power.

Yet another place where Pete can't keep his stories straight: I thought you told us that standing up to Trump's corruption was good, and that the party should move on from Trump. Which is what Romney tried to do.

Turns out nope, you think Romney should have fallen in line. To the shock of no one, forever a Trumpster.

SUCH a bad troll. So bad, that you troll yourself. It's really breathtaking, Pete.

How do you read so much into a laughing emoji post? I was simply laughing at Cradle's funny post.

Riiiiiight.

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:54 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:43 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:04 pm

elonmuskrockefeller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:54 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:53 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:48 pm

Was looking into the news and see that right winger JD Vance won in Ohio. He had been endorsed by tRump. But interestingly, he did not acknowledge or thank the Chump in his victory speech! I wonder how that will be dealt with.

No problem for JD to keep shape shifting and re-branding himself with the prevailing wind. Remember that he first got famous as a Trump hater. Then said he had been wrong about Trump. Having gotten elected, he'll now dump Trump (or not) if that seems like the helpful thing to do.

You can say the same thing about pretty much all of his GOP Senate colleagues other than Mitt Romney.

Funny how Mittens is such a beloved individual in the eyes of
FLP Democrats. You sure despised him to no end when he was running for POTUS. It proves to me you folks know a chump when he falls into your lap.

He's obviously speaking to Romney voting to impeach Trump for his obvious abuse of power.

Yet another place where Pete can't keep his stories straight: I thought you told us that standing up to Trump's corruption was good, and that the party should move on from Trump. Which is what Romney tried to do.

Turns out nope, you think Romney should have fallen in line. To the shock of no one, forever a Trumpster.

SUCH a bad troll. So bad, that you troll yourself. It's really breathtaking, Pete.

The harsh criticism of Romney is mine to own all by myself. Romney is a nice guy who needs to go on Ebay and find a spine. The only hard core stance he has ever had is his dislike for the dumpster. It is no wonder Democrats like him so much. He is the Republican they know they can beat with one hand tied behind their back. To Romney's credit he knows how to compose a really well written concession speech.

Romney got more of a percentage of the US population than Trump did in 2016.....47% v. Trump's 46%

He'd beat Biden, if you ask me.

He'd have certainly beaten Hillary soundly, and I suspect you're right that he'd beat Biden.

Except that GOP world went full on whack job...

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:54 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:43 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:04 pm

elonmuskrockefeller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:54 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:53 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:48 pm

Was looking into the news and see that right winger JD Vance won in Ohio. He had been endorsed by tRump. But interestingly, he did not acknowledge or thank the Chump in his victory speech! I wonder how that will be dealt with.

No problem for JD to keep shape shifting and re-branding himself with the prevailing wind. Remember that he first got famous as a Trump hater. Then said he had been wrong about Trump. Having gotten elected, he'll now dump Trump (or not) if that seems like the helpful thing to do.

You can say the same thing about pretty much all of his GOP Senate colleagues other than Mitt Romney.

Funny how Mittens is such a beloved individual in the eyes of
FLP Democrats. You sure despised him to no end when he was running for POTUS. It proves to me you folks know a chump when he falls into your lap.

He's obviously speaking to Romney voting to impeach Trump for his obvious abuse of power.

Yet another place where Pete can't keep his stories straight: I thought you told us that standing up to Trump's corruption was good, and that the party should move on from Trump. Which is what Romney tried to do.

Turns out nope, you think Romney should have fallen in line. To the shock of no one, forever a Trumpster.

SUCH a bad troll. So bad, that you troll yourself. It's really breathtaking, Pete.

The harsh criticism of Romney is mine to own all by myself. Romney is a nice guy who needs to go on Ebay and find a spine. The only hard core stance he has ever had is his dislike for the dumpster. It is no wonder Democrats like him so much. He is the Republican they know they can beat with one hand tied behind their back. To Romney's credit he knows how to compose a really well written concession speech.

Romney got more of a percentage of the US population than Trump did in 2016.....47% v. Trump's 46%

He'd beat Biden, if you ask me.

I disagree with you 100%. Romney is a very nice, polite and respectful kind of guy who is not cut out to handle the white hot spot spotlight. The Democrats chewed him up and spit him out when he ran against Obama. If you want to run for POTUS you have to be willing to break out the brass knuckles and prepare to engage the other side in a no hold bars street fight. That is the type of fight that Mitt Romney is not capable of engaging in. There is a reason why nice guys finish last. Ron DeSantis is the guy the Democrats are scared chitless of. If the dumpster decides to make a 3rd party run then the Democrats will win. One thing the Democrats just proved...when push comes to shove the Democrats know how to get their people out to the polling places.

Funny how Mittens is such a beloved individual in the eyes of
FLP Democrats. You sure despised him to no end when he was running for POTUS. It proves to me you folks know a chump when he falls into your lap.

Voted for Obama in 2008 and Romney in 2012.

So apologize. And then take off those MAGA glasses -- they make it hard for you to see reality.

But the point was that Romney is one of the few Republicans who is reality based.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:41 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:24 am

DMac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:11 am My hunch is Biden doesn't run again, musky. Christ almighty, he'll be 81....and running for another four year term?
I don't believe he even really wanted to run this time but the Ds saw him as the best bet (unbelievable in
itself) to get rid of the monstrous aszwhole that was in the office. I think he's done. If he's not, his campaign
slogan can be, METHUSELAH DID AND SO CAN I !!!

That made me

... Joe will call it quits after his first term. Jill has likely had enough. Any democrat can now beat Trump. Trump is done being a problem for the democrats he is now exclusively a problem for his own party. Younger democrat can beat the Florida douche bag.

Assuming Biden calls it quits, he will leave office with an approval rating for job done at near 60%. History is going to place him among the most impactful and best presidents based on accomplishments.

If the Dems were smart, they'd find a way to keep Tim Ryan in the spotlight & nominate him for President in 2024.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:41 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:24 am

DMac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:11 am My hunch is Biden doesn't run again, musky. Christ almighty, he'll be 81....and running for another four year term?
I don't believe he even really wanted to run this time but the Ds saw him as the best bet (unbelievable in
itself) to get rid of the monstrous aszwhole that was in the office. I think he's done. If he's not, his campaign
slogan can be, METHUSELAH DID AND SO CAN I !!!

That made me

... Joe will call it quits after his first term. Jill has likely had enough. Any democrat can now beat Trump. Trump is done being a problem for the democrats he is now exclusively a problem for his own party. Younger democrat can beat the Florida douche bag.

Assuming Biden calls it quits, he will leave office with an approval rating for job done at near 60%. History is going to place him among the most impactful and best presidents based on accomplishments.

If the Dems were smart, they'd find a way to keep Tim Ryan in the spotlight & nominate him for President in 2024.

?

He just lost a State that's a major key to the Presidency. If he can't win in Ohio, why would you think he'd win any other battleground States?

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:19 pm

elonmuskrockefeller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:41 pm Again, I'd like to pay you a compliment. I think you have some of the best posts here, not partisan nor exaggerated, but very thoughtful. Your posts make me think and rethink my own thoughts, and that's appreciated. ...

I agree money for Trump could well become an issue at some point. But he got pretty far in 2016 before big outside money kicked in (can't recall when that happened).

I'm not so sure Trump would fare much better under a DeSantis DOJ. For one thing, the cases will be pretty far advanced by Jan. 2025 which could make them tougher to drop. For another, and this depends on how the relationship between the two of them has gone, DeSantis may want Trump prosecuted and jailed. And lastly it wouldn't surprise me if public sentiment by then favors prosecuting Trump.

Welcome back bill. Your insights have been missed in this forum.
It adds so much to the discussion when members can disagree without being disagreeable.

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:09 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:41 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:24 am

DMac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:11 am My hunch is Biden doesn't run again, musky. Christ almighty, he'll be 81....and running for another four year term?
I don't believe he even really wanted to run this time but the Ds saw him as the best bet (unbelievable in
itself) to get rid of the monstrous aszwhole that was in the office. I think he's done. If he's not, his campaign
slogan can be, METHUSELAH DID AND SO CAN I !!!

That made me

... Joe will call it quits after his first term. Jill has likely had enough. Any democrat can now beat Trump. Trump is done being a problem for the democrats he is now exclusively a problem for his own party. Younger democrat can beat the Florida douche bag.

Assuming Biden calls it quits, he will leave office with an approval rating for job done at near 60%. History is going to place him among the most impactful and best presidents based on accomplishments.

If the Dems were smart, they'd find a way to keep Tim Ryan in the spotlight & nominate him for President in 2024.

?

He just lost a State that's a major key to the Presidency. If he can't win in Ohio, why would you think he'd win any other battleground States?

Because the rest of the country is not as blue as Ohio. He has the Dem chops based on his voting record & union support. He could bring the Reagan Dems back home. He's young, charismatic, & comes across as a straight shooter. He made what should have been a blowout a close race. Look at the margin DeWine had. He'd carry OH as a native son Pres candidate. He could bring the rust belt back to the Dems.

I don't know if anyone else was following the Congressional race of Jennifer-Ruth Green in NW IN (Gary). She lost.
Her campaign caught my eye because it's one of the most creative embellishments of military service I've ever seen.
....bordering on stolen valor.
Watch her campaign ads, then read about her service, & see if you fall for it.

https://jennifer-ruthgreen.com/

https://jennifer-ruthgreen.com/about/

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... y-00060703

The patches on Mark Kelly's flight jacket all look legit, based on his record of service as an A-6 pilot & test pilot.
...but it's new -- not the one he wore on the carrier or at Pax River. No red hyd fluid or white salt stains.

https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/ ... -13613093f

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:11 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:19 pm

elonmuskrockefeller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:41 pm Again, I'd like to pay you a compliment. I think you have some of the best posts here, not partisan nor exaggerated, but very thoughtful. Your posts make me think and rethink my own thoughts, and that's appreciated. ...

I agree money for Trump could well become an issue at some point. But he got pretty far in 2016 before big outside money kicked in (can't recall when that happened).

I'm not so sure Trump would fare much better under a DeSantis DOJ. For one thing, the cases will be pretty far advanced by Jan. 2025 which could make them tougher to drop. For another, and this depends on how the relationship between the two of them has gone, DeSantis may want Trump prosecuted and jailed. And lastly it wouldn't surprise me if public sentiment by then favors prosecuting Trump.

Welcome back bill. Your insights have been missed in this forum.
It adds so much to the discussion when members can disagree without being disagreeable.

I disagree.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:11 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:19 pm

elonmuskrockefeller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:41 pm Again, I'd like to pay you a compliment. I think you have some of the best posts here, not partisan nor exaggerated, but very thoughtful. Your posts make me think and rethink my own thoughts, and that's appreciated. ...

I agree money for Trump could well become an issue at some point. But he got pretty far in 2016 before big outside money kicked in (can't recall when that happened).

I'm not so sure Trump would fare much better under a DeSantis DOJ. For one thing, the cases will be pretty far advanced by Jan. 2025 which could make them tougher to drop. For another, and this depends on how the relationship between the two of them has gone, DeSantis may want Trump prosecuted and jailed. And lastly it wouldn't surprise me if public sentiment by then favors prosecuting Trump.

Welcome back bill. Your insights have been missed in this forum.
It adds so much to the discussion when members can disagree without being disagreeable.

Thank you.

When I didn’t see Wolf Blitzer on CNN last night, I wondered if he, too, had been let go. He hasn’t, but I guess the new management has decided to put him out to pasture on election night. Looked him up and was surprised to see he is 74.

Only one election night to go by, but I like him better than Jake Tapper.

About 2 months ago my wife and I met Wes Moore's mom, Joy, at the retirement party for one of our very good pals who has devoted much of her life to Baltimore City.

We were having a charity event at our home the next week on behalf of the Creative Alliance, an arts org in Baltimore we support, located at old Patterson Park theatre...32 seated outside for an 'Art to Dine For', with a chef from West Baltimore who was named "Cook of the Year" by Southern Living, a former NFL player turned artist/activist from West Baltimore, an African American sommelier who curates wines from around the world owned by, or imported by, black women, and an poet/activist from West Baltimore; storytelling, menu was foods inspired by her memories of her grandmother cooking...Joy asked to come and we made it happen, but made her promise to bring a couple of signs for Wes to combat the huge Dan Cox sign at one of our neighbors who had also held a massive fundraiser for him.

Another neighbor had told me, in a quite horrified voice, that someone had painted a swastika on the Cox sign and on her mailbox, which probably looked like same property as the sign. She was going to have to go to court...I asked, did they catch the guy, "yes", and in a hushed but urgent voice, "it was a Jewish man"...I said, "ohh, that's horrible and illegal... (couple of heartbeats) ...I guess he must have felt very strongly...". I asked her what she knew of Cox, not much apparently other than R...I asked her whether she knew that Hogan had said he was crazy and that no one should ever vote for him...no, she did not..."But I don't know anything about the Democrat other than he wrote a book". I said, well when he was a young boy he saw his father shot, he himself was in handcuffs at age 11, but then made it to Hopkins, played football, was a Rhodes scholar, then went into the Army where he served in Afghanistan...she said, "Ohh, I love that..." Perhaps I converted one vote.

When I told my Democrat son of the swastika, he asked "did they paint that on before or after they put the sign up"?

The good news is that Moore is the real deal, good soul, very bright...he should be able to attract a much better group of people into his Administration than had O'Malley, who I thought was disastrously bad at such. One of the big positives for Hogan was that he attracted competence, not as much partisan stuff as typical. Hopefully Moore will take a page from that playbook. Terrific communicator.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/09/opinions ... index.html

Our other favorite candidate this year was Brooke Lierman for Controller, who we'd met at a fundraising event by a fellow Dartmouth alum. My wife and I being old alums, Brooke being a young one! Very bright, passionate, thoughtful, hard worker. I think she's going to do a very creditable job for Maryland.

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:28 pm When I didn’t see Wolf Blitzer on CNN last night, I wondered if he, too, had been let go. He hasn’t, but I guess the new management has decided to put him out to pasture on election night. Looked him up and was surprised to see he is 74.

Only one election night to go by, but I like him better than Jake Tapper.

Definitely not Jake's forte (who I generally like0...though Wolf drove me crazy with the breathless 'breaking news'.

We watched some Fox (yikes!), OAN (hoo boy), CNN, and MSNBC this evening...MSNBC was by far the best coverage, best political insights, least 'inside-Beltway takes'. Not perfect, but big notch up from CNN...it was even more striking last night, we spent less time on CNN tonight as a result. Checked out the Fox and OAN coverage and hung in there...as my son said, they reach an enormous number of folks with such tripe every night. More than CNN and MSNB combined...scary, really. So dumb.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:18 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:09 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:41 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:24 am

DMac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:11 am My hunch is Biden doesn't run again, musky. Christ almighty, he'll be 81....and running for another four year term?
I don't believe he even really wanted to run this time but the Ds saw him as the best bet (unbelievable in
itself) to get rid of the monstrous aszwhole that was in the office. I think he's done. If he's not, his campaign
slogan can be, METHUSELAH DID AND SO CAN I !!!

That made me

... Joe will call it quits after his first term. Jill has likely had enough. Any democrat can now beat Trump. Trump is done being a problem for the democrats he is now exclusively a problem for his own party. Younger democrat can beat the Florida douche bag.

Assuming Biden calls it quits, he will leave office with an approval rating for job done at near 60%. History is going to place him among the most impactful and best presidents based on accomplishments.

If the Dems were smart, they'd find a way to keep Tim Ryan in the spotlight & nominate him for President in 2024.

?

He just lost a State that's a major key to the Presidency. If he can't win in Ohio, why would you think he'd win any other battleground States?

Because the rest of the country is not as blue as Ohio. He has the Dem chops based on his voting record & union support. He could bring the Reagan Dems back home. He's young, charismatic, & comes across as a straight shooter. He made what should have been a blowout a close race. Look at the margin DeWine had. He'd carry OH as a native son Pres candidate. He could bring the rust belt back to the Dems.

I don't know about running for President in '24, but he definitely should get a major role somehow...he's been mentioned for DNC Chair...I agree that he ran a terrific race and his core message can resonate beyond the rust belt. Ohio is an extremely difficult 'get' for Dems and he made it a contested situation without much national Dem support. He walks and talks authentic.

But he did not run on abortion, which was the big winning strategy for Dems. The Dems in Ohio didn't get an abortion initiative on the ballot, and they didn't make a central issue. The Ohio law is unpopular, and will cost many lives, but they didn't capitalize on the energy that was found in other states. Ryan has the right position on it, but didn't make it central.

But hey, Michigan without the gerrymandering is suddenly all blue. Pennsylvania maybe all blue... Interesting...

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:33 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:28 pm When I didn’t see Wolf Blitzer on CNN last night, I wondered if he, too, had been let go. He hasn’t, but I guess the new management has decided to put him out to pasture on election night. Looked him up and was surprised to see he is 74.

Only one election night to go by, but I like him better than Jake Tapper.

Definitely not Jake's forte (who I generally like0...though Wolf drove me crazy with the breathless 'breaking news'.

We watched some Fox (yikes!), OAN (hoo boy), CNN, and MSNBC this evening...MSNBC was by far the best coverage, best political insights, least 'inside-Beltway takes'. Not perfect, but big notch up from CNN...it was even more striking last night, we spent less time on CNN tonight as a result. Checked out the Fox and OAN coverage and hung in there...as my son said, they reach an enormous number of folks with such tripe every night. More than CNN and MSNB combined...scary, really. So dumb.

I used to like Jake a lot, although I think in the last couple of years he has departed too much from straight reporting. He had Fauci on one time and was lecturing him. It was cringe worthy.

Yeah, Wolf certainly can get over excited at times. But I have found Wolf’s questions usually to be pretty good, even if delivered in an over excited fashion, while Jake’s questions just aren’t good. John King, who sometimes has to have the patience of Job on election night, looked like he was suffering.

I generally watched CNN. Flipped to MSNBC and Fox at times. Don’t know why I don’t stay with MSNBC as Steve Kornacki is the gold standard. John King is pretty good, but Steve is better.

Boebert noses ahead by 36 votes, as counting stops for the day.
1800 (or +3200) remaining votes to be tabulated/counted tomorrow a.m.
Confusing report :
https://www.chieftain.com/story/news/lo ... 590894007/

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:48 pm Pennsylvania maybe all blue... Interesting...

Well almost. Republicans have kept control of the Pennsylvania State Senate. Dems could be flipping the House blue though.

As has been widely reported, the Republicans really screwed up with their candidates for governor and US senator this year. Way back before there were any nominees, I thought that Shapiro, as the front runner for the Democratic nomination, was definitely beatable. Mastriano’s primary opponent (whose name I forget by now) would have run a much closer race against Shapiro who is a decent candidate, but rather bland.

On the Senate side, I wanted Conor Lamb to win the primary, not because I like him better than Fetterman, but because I thought he had a better chance to win in Pennsylvania. I was surprised the extent to which Fetterman mopped the floor with him in the primary.

As I always do with Pennsylvania politics, I give great weight to what my sister thinks. She’s a moderate Republican who lives in one of the collar counties outside of Philadelphia. She’s pretty in touch with how suburban women think and vote. She hated Trump and voted for Hillary and Joe. She said she thought Fetterman was pretty progressive, but that Oz was slimy. She thought that while Fetterman‘s performance in the debate was not good, she didn’t hold it against him because of his stroke. The fact that our parents both had strokes might have been a factor.

Today I learned that my very conservative nephew who is an ER doctor up in the Poconos voted for Fetterman because he thought Oz was a slimy quack. I was quite surprised as he is usually a straight Republican voter (though he says he didn’t vote for Trump).

Oz was another poor choice as a candidate. In addition to the fact that many thought he was slimy, he is a carpet bagger which does not play well in Pennsylvania. Had the Republicans nominated, say, McCormick who was Oz’s primary opponent, he might’ve beaten Fetterman.

Bottom line, though, is I would not say yesterday’s election indicates that Pennsylvania has turned blue. Pennsylvania is still very much a purple state. At this early point, I would say it is entirely up for grabs in 2024. What yesterday’s election of Shapiro does ensure, however, is that the 2024 vote counting in Pennsylvania will be on the up and up. The governor appoints the secretary of state who is in charge of the vote counting.

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:06 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:33 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:28 pm When I didn’t see Wolf Blitzer on CNN last night, I wondered if he, too, had been let go. He hasn’t, but I guess the new management has decided to put him out to pasture on election night. Looked him up and was surprised to see he is 74.

Only one election night to go by, but I like him better than Jake Tapper.

Definitely not Jake's forte (who I generally like0...though Wolf drove me crazy with the breathless 'breaking news'.

We watched some Fox (yikes!), OAN (hoo boy), CNN, and MSNBC this evening...MSNBC was by far the best coverage, best political insights, least 'inside-Beltway takes'. Not perfect, but big notch up from CNN...it was even more striking last night, we spent less time on CNN tonight as a result. Checked out the Fox and OAN coverage and hung in there...as my son said, they reach an enormous number of folks with such tripe every night. More than CNN and MSNB combined...scary, really. So dumb.

I used to like Jake a lot, although I think in the last couple of years he has departed too much from straight reporting. He had Fauci on one time and was lecturing him. It was cringe worthy.

Yeah, Wolf certainly can get over excited at times. But I have found Wolf’s questions usually to be pretty good, even if delivered in an over excited fashion, while Jake’s questions just aren’t good. John King, who sometimes has to have the patience of Job on election night, looked like he was suffering.

I generally watched CNN. Flipped to MSNBC and Fox at times. Don’t know why I don’t stay with MSNBC as Steve Kornacki is the gold standard. John King is pretty good, but Steve is better.

yes, Kornacki is the best at explain voting details. Significantly better than King.

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:27 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:48 pm Pennsylvania maybe all blue... Interesting...

Well almost. Republicans have kept control of the Pennsylvania State Senate. Dems could be flipping the House blue though.

As has been widely reported, the Republicans really screwed up with their candidates for governor and US senator this year. Way back before there were any nominees, I thought that Shapiro, as the front runner for the Democratic nomination, was definitely beatable. Mastriano’s primary opponent (whose name I forget by now) would have run a much closer race against Shapiro who is a decent candidate, but rather bland.

On the Senate side, I wanted Conor Lamb to win the primary, not because I like him better than Fetterman, but because I thought he had a better chance to win in Pennsylvania. I was surprised the extent to which Fetterman mopped the floor with him in the primary.

As I always do with Pennsylvania politics, I give great weight to what my sister thinks. She’s a moderate Republican who lives in one of the collar counties outside of Philadelphia. She’s pretty in touch with how suburban women think and vote. She hated Trump and voted for Hillary and Joe. She said she thought Fetterman was pretty progressive, but that Oz was slimy. She thought that while Fetterman‘s performance in the debate was not good, she didn’t hold it against him because of his stroke. The fact that our parents both had strokes might have been a factor.

Today I learned that my very conservative nephew who is an ER doctor up in the Poconos voted for Fetterman because he thought Oz was a slimy quack. I was quite surprised as he is usually a straight Republican voter (though he says he didn’t vote for Trump).

Oz was another poor choice as a candidate. In addition to the fact that many thought he was slimy, he is a carpet bagger which does not play well in Pennsylvania. Had the Republicans nominated, say, McCormick who was Oz’s primary opponent, he might’ve beaten Fetterman.

Bottom line, though, is I would not say yesterday’s election indicates that Pennsylvania has turned blue. Pennsylvania is still very much a purple state. At this early point, I would say it is entirely up for grabs in 2024. What yesterday’s election of Shapiro does ensure, however, is that the 2024 vote counting in Pennsylvania will be on the up and up. The governor appoints the secretary of state who is in charge of the vote counting.

you're right of course, as usual. Dems didn't flip the Senate (only half up), but looks like they did the state House, the Senate race (so now 2), Governor, 9 of 17 federal House reps too. But I agree that doesn't make it 'blue' permanently...just that without the gerrymandering the Dems are winning...

of course, in NY, the redrawn districts gave the GOP wins.

Get rid of gerrymandering and go to ranked choice voting...and get rid of dark money!
Ahh well...