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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:23 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:04 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:36 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:57 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:46 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:33 am
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:39 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:57 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:31 am Yes. A bunch of reasonable, good natured, well informed posters have abandoned this toxic waste site. Too bad.
Maybe they finally had enough of your bad Holocaust jokes and sad racial humor. Nobody would miss you if you followed their lead. :oops:
Are there "good" holocaust jokes?
It wasn't a joke. It was an accurate analogy.
Garbage. That's the best analogy you could come up with?
You're still a disgrace (one of your hero's favorite words)
I could have come up with much worse. Would you prefer Dr Frankenstein ?
You could have come up with an accurate analogy, or listened to what she actually said.

What part of "I want to be clear we're not talking about medical procedures for pre-pubescent children" was unclear?

She spelled it out for you----No surgeries.

Yet you come back with Mengele?
Pre-pubescent is 9-12 years. Yet she's talking about " the wrong puberty". Teenagers go through puberty. PRE-pubescent children are before puberty. Don't get sucked in by her weasel words. LIsten to her canned non-answer when asked about gender reassignment surgery & hormone treatment for minors.

That’s a brand new citation. I can only react to what you post.

I’ve said the same thing about this fake issue. Pass a federal law preventing medical procedures until you’re 18. Reasonable.

I keep telling you, the average age of medical transition in the US is 26. It’s been self governing for decades. But if you feel better with a law? Pass it! I’d vote yes.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:27 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:23 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:04 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:36 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:57 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:46 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:33 am
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:39 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:57 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:31 am Yes. A bunch of reasonable, good natured, well informed posters have abandoned this toxic waste site. Too bad.
Maybe they finally had enough of your bad Holocaust jokes and sad racial humor. Nobody would miss you if you followed their lead. :oops:
Are there "good" holocaust jokes?
It wasn't a joke. It was an accurate analogy.
Garbage. That's the best analogy you could come up with?
You're still a disgrace (one of your hero's favorite words)
I could have come up with much worse. Would you prefer Dr Frankenstein ?
You could have come up with an accurate analogy, or listened to what she actually said.

What part of "I want to be clear we're not talking about medical procedures for pre-pubescent children" was unclear?

She spelled it out for you----No surgeries.

Yet you come back with Mengele?
Pre-pubescent is 9-12 years. Yet she's talking about " the wrong puberty". Teenagers go through puberty. PRE-pubescent children are before puberty. Don't get sucked in by her weasel words. LIsten to her canned non-answer when asked about gender reassignment surgery & hormone treatment for minors.

That’s a brand new citation. I can only react to what you post.

I’ve said the same thing about this fake issue. Pass a federal law preventing medical procedures until you’re 18. Reasonable.

I keep telling you, the average age of medical transition in the US is 26. It’s been self governing for decades. But if you feel better with a law? Pass it! I’d vote yes.
What she said in my first post, she limited to pre-pubescent, as a dodge.
She won't be more specific because of what she has advocated for in the past.
I don't care about a law, I care about what our #2 at HHS advocates & tries to get govt funded.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm
by cradleandshoot
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:38 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:31 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:45 am
ggait wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:39 am
None of that justifies what the Deep State apparatchiks did to scuttle Trump's campaigns & sabotage his Presidency. It's remarkable he accomplished as much as he did.
Wooh boy.

Comical, crazy, presposterous. The words fail.

Does Salty realize who Trump's Deep State tormentors actually are?

First you got Comey, a lifelong Republican. Who, the data shows, pretty much delivered the WH to Trump with his 10/28/2016 letter to Congress.

Then you have Rod Rosenstein, a lifelong Republican appointed by Trump as USDAG at DOJ. First thing Rosenstein does is, at Trump's request, to lay the groundwork for canning Comey.

Then you have Jeff Sessions, lifelong Republican appointed by Trump to be USAG. Sessions on his own decides to recuse himself from Trump/Russia.

So the decision falls to Rosenstein, who is now finished canning Comey. Rosenstein decides to appoint a special counsel -- Mueller, a lifelong Republican.

Later on Trump appoint Chris Wray, a lifelong Republican, as FBI Director.

Later on, Trump appoints Bill Barr, a lifelong Republican, to be USAG. Barr lets several years pass without doing anything to Hunter.

After Barr departs, Biden and his AG decide to keep US Atty Weiss (a Trump appointee) on board (against normal practice) to continue working the Hunter case. Weiss gets Hunter to plead guilty to two criminal tax charges. Weiss has provided and will provide further sworn testimony to Congress that the Hunter matter was done by the book. Providing that kind of testimony is, obvi, something that MAGAs always refuse to do.

So, basically, Salty's fever dream is that Republican Trump appointees are the people who live to torment Trump and sandbag for the Biden Crime family.

Salty could spend his time more productively digging into Bigfoot sighting and fake moon landings.

What a whack job he has become.
The facade has just completely fallen away….I pointed out his mask slipping years ago…. His acolytes thought it was an unfair assessment…. I have noticed that they have abandoned ship.
Yes. A bunch of reasonable, good natured, well informed posters have abandoned this toxic waste site. Too bad.
Ever notice how the personal attacks pick up when things aren't going well for the Dems ?

https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Const ... 0143109936

The Deep State: The Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of a Shadow Government
Paperback – September 13, 2016
by Mike Lofgren (Author)

The New York Times bestselling author of The Party Is Over delivers a no-holds-barred exposé of who really wields power in Washington

Every four years, tempers are tested and marriages fray as Americans head to the polls to cast their votes. But does anyone really care what we think? Has our vaunted political system become one big, expensive, painfully scripted reality TV show? In this powerful expose of the sins and excesses of Beltwayland, a longtime Republican party insider argues that we have become an oligarchy in form if not in name. Hooked on war, genuflecting to big donors, in thrall to discredited economic theories and utterly bereft of a moral compass, America’s governing classes are selling their souls to entrenched interest while our bridges collapse, wages, stagnate, and our water is increasingly undrinkable.

Mike Lofgren was the first to use the term Deep State, in an essay and exclusive interview on Moyers and Company, to refer to a web of entrenched interests in the US government and beyond (most notably Wall Street and Silicon Valley, which controls access to our every click and swipe) that dictate America’s defense decisions, trade policies and priorities with little regard for the actual interests or desires of the American people. In this essential and eye-opening book Lofgren takes his argument one step further. Drawing on insights gleaned over three decades on Capitol Hill, much of it on the Budget Committee, he paints a gripping portrait of the dismal swamp on the Potomac and the revolution it will take to reclaim our government and set us back on course.




See the Russia thread for Mr Lofgren's thoughts on Ukraine.
That's not your "Deep State", OS. Because entrenched interests have been pulling the strings of Federal government long before you or I were born.

That's not AT ALL what you mean by Deep State.

And if it is? Then you have to explain how Trump made your Deep State 60% larger in just 4 years......and none of the TeamTinFoil crew mustered a single complaint about it in four years. The Deep State described above LOVES Trump. They want MORE of that.
Trump could have cut that spending by quite a bit if he didn't have to deal with the catostrohic cost to the nation to deal with the COVID crisis. Would you have been more satisfied if he had simply ignored it? How much more did it cost the government to fight the war on COVID? The powers that be in DC begged trump to spend whatever was needed and trump obliged. Were you critical of that spending at the time?? How much of that 60% was caused by the COVID crisis or does that not matter when your doing your calculations?? Trump just should have told everyone go to hell we can't afford a crisis right now.i remember King Andy begging trump for the funds to convert the Javits Center to a temporary hospital and begged trump for the funds to bring the Mercy ship to NY harbor as another temporary hospital. You remember these two efforts were a collosal waste of time and money? Trump could of and should of said screw that we are not going to pay people already collecting unemployment an extra 300 dollars week. That is all a part of the 60% increase in federal spending my man that your grousing about now. Did you grouse about it when it was happening ?

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:00 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:38 pm That's not your "Deep State", OS. Because entrenched interests have been pulling the strings of Federal government long before you or I were born.

That's not AT ALL what you mean by Deep State.

And if it is? Then you have to explain how Trump made your Deep State 60% larger in just 4 years......and none of the TeamTinFoil crew mustered a single complaint about it in four years. The Deep State described above LOVES Trump. They want MORE of that.
I named names. I don't know how I can be more specific.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:04 pm
by a fan
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm Trump could have cut that spending by quite a bit if he didn't have to deal with the catostrohic cost to the nation to deal with the COVID crisis.
Yes! I agree. But that doesn't mean that A. the money wasn't spend, and B. He passed three MASSIVE spending bills, included two that had nothing to do with military spending, and then C. cut taxes so that we didnt' have to pay for what we got.
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm Would you have been more satisfied if he had simply ignored it? How much more did it cost the government to fight the war on COVID? The powers that be in DC begged trump to spend whatever was needed and trump obliged. Were you critical of that spending at the time?? How much of that 60% was caused by the COVID crisis or does that not matter when your doing your calculations??
About half the spending was Covid. I most certainly did NOT criticize him for that spending. On the whole? Trump did a fine job with Covid, and I said so at the time. Setting aside, of course, his nutjob miracle cures for Covid nonsense. The actual policies worked, and we had an effective vaccine in months. That will go down as one of the greatest scientific achievements.....ever.

What i DID do for the Forum was predict what was coming: that Republicans will pretend like Trump three massive spending bills didn't happen, and act like 100% of the spending increase came from Covid.

And that's exactly what happened. Three massive spending bills? What three massive spending bills? :lol:

He was a cash register, cradle. The Deep State LOVES that.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:15 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:38 pm That's not your "Deep State", OS. Because entrenched interests have been pulling the strings of Federal government long before you or I were born.

That's not AT ALL what you mean by Deep State.

And if it is? Then you have to explain how Trump made your Deep State 60% larger in just 4 years......and none of the TeamTinFoil crew mustered a single complaint about it in four years. The Deep State described above LOVES Trump. They want MORE of that.
I named names. I don't know how I can be more specific.
You and your citation from 2016 are two different things. That's all I'm saying.

To this day I don't understand why you think Trump is the one President we're not allowed to investigate.

This Deep State of yours went after Nixon. And Reagan. And both Hillary and Bill. No one called it a "Deep State". Result? They were caught lying, and doing a bunch of stupid stuff. As a taxpayer? I DEMAND that the FBI keep an eye on these crooks.

I don't understand why you want to let Presidents and their Admins to break laws, lie, and do shady stuff with abandon.

Yet here you are, still telling us that that's what you want, after all this mess.

And if Joe is doing corrupt stuff? Do you want him to walk, because you think it's 'weaponizing US intel" if we dare to investigate him?

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:20 pm
by youthathletics
Evidentially, there is still a ton of covid money sitting idle.

And this last spending bill, actually had a bunch of cuts in it (which was a nice start) from the Freedom Caucus side of the R-party. McCarthy sat with Schumer and Biden and it McCarthy had to compromise/concede on most all of it. If you recall, same thing happened to Trump when he gave the dems everything they asked for.

The 'Unity Party' always wins.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:26 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:27 pm What she said in my first post, she limited to pre-pubescent, as a dodge.
She won't be more specific because of what she has advocated for in the past.
I don't care about a law, I care about what our #2 at HHS advocates & tries to get govt funded.
If you want to prevent Federal R&D spending on this......pass a law.

This is very fixable, and folks are acting like this is the most important issue on the planet...when the number of people involved is next to nothing.

Pass the laws you want, and move on. Reasonable people can agree to limits.


......otherwise, this is going to turn into immigration reform, where Republicans INTENTIONALLY don't fix the actual problems, because being able to point at the Dems and say "the Dems are letting two year olds get sex changes" gets them votes.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:30 pm
by cradleandshoot
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:04 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm Trump could have cut that spending by quite a bit if he didn't have to deal with the catostrohic cost to the nation to deal with the COVID crisis.
Yes! I agree. But that doesn't mean that A. the money wasn't spend, and B. He passed three MASSIVE spending bills, included two that had nothing to do with military spending, and then C. cut taxes so that we didnt' have to pay for what we got.
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm Would you have been more satisfied if he had simply ignored it? How much more did it cost the government to fight the war on COVID? The powers that be in DC begged trump to spend whatever was needed and trump obliged. Were you critical of that spending at the time?? How much of that 60% was caused by the COVID crisis or does that not matter when your doing your calculations??
About half the spending was Covid. I most certainly did NOT criticize him for that spending. On the whole? Trump did a fine job with Covid, and I said so at the time. Setting aside, of course, his nutjob miracle cures for Covid nonsense. The actual policies worked, and we had an effective vaccine in months. That will go down as one of the greatest scientific achievements.....ever.

What i DID do for the Forum was predict what was coming: that Republicans will pretend like Trump three massive spending bills didn't happen, and act like 100% of the spending increase came from Covid.

And that's exactly what happened. Three massive spending bills? What three massive spending bills? :lol:

He was a cash register, cradle. The Deep State LOVES that.
Must have loved all of that influx of cash. I read recently that 200 billion or more fell victim to fraud and waste. Good country America.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:35 pm
by a fan
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:04 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm Trump could have cut that spending by quite a bit if he didn't have to deal with the catostrohic cost to the nation to deal with the COVID crisis.
Yes! I agree. But that doesn't mean that A. the money wasn't spend, and B. He passed three MASSIVE spending bills, included two that had nothing to do with military spending, and then C. cut taxes so that we didnt' have to pay for what we got.
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm Would you have been more satisfied if he had simply ignored it? How much more did it cost the government to fight the war on COVID? The powers that be in DC begged trump to spend whatever was needed and trump obliged. Were you critical of that spending at the time?? How much of that 60% was caused by the COVID crisis or does that not matter when your doing your calculations??
About half the spending was Covid. I most certainly did NOT criticize him for that spending. On the whole? Trump did a fine job with Covid, and I said so at the time. Setting aside, of course, his nutjob miracle cures for Covid nonsense. The actual policies worked, and we had an effective vaccine in months. That will go down as one of the greatest scientific achievements.....ever.

What i DID do for the Forum was predict what was coming: that Republicans will pretend like Trump three massive spending bills didn't happen, and act like 100% of the spending increase came from Covid.

And that's exactly what happened. Three massive spending bills? What three massive spending bills? :lol:

He was a cash register, cradle. The Deep State LOVES that.
Must have loved all of that influx of cash. I read recently that 200 billion or more fell victim to fraud and waste. Good country America.
Well, we all knew that was coming. Remember talking about how Canada already had a system set up for direct payments to Citizens?

We have a lot of administrative infrastructure fixing to do in the US. And no one will do it, because it's not sexy, and Congress stopped caring.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:28 pm
by cradleandshoot
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:35 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:04 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm Trump could have cut that spending by quite a bit if he didn't have to deal with the catostrohic cost to the nation to deal with the COVID crisis.
Yes! I agree. But that doesn't mean that A. the money wasn't spend, and B. He passed three MASSIVE spending bills, included two that had nothing to do with military spending, and then C. cut taxes so that we didnt' have to pay for what we got.
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:44 pm Would you have been more satisfied if he had simply ignored it? How much more did it cost the government to fight the war on COVID? The powers that be in DC begged trump to spend whatever was needed and trump obliged. Were you critical of that spending at the time?? How much of that 60% was caused by the COVID crisis or does that not matter when your doing your calculations??
About half the spending was Covid. I most certainly did NOT criticize him for that spending. On the whole? Trump did a fine job with Covid, and I said so at the time. Setting aside, of course, his nutjob miracle cures for Covid nonsense. The actual policies worked, and we had an effective vaccine in months. That will go down as one of the greatest scientific achievements.....ever.

What i DID do for the Forum was predict what was coming: that Republicans will pretend like Trump three massive spending bills didn't happen, and act like 100% of the spending increase came from Covid.

And that's exactly what happened. Three massive spending bills? What three massive spending bills? :lol:

He was a cash register, cradle. The Deep State LOVES that.
Must have loved all of that influx of cash. I read recently that 200 billion or more fell victim to fraud and waste. Good country America.
Well, we all knew that was coming. Remember talking about how Canada already had a system set up for direct payments to Citizens?

We have a lot of administrative infrastructure fixing to do in the US. And no one will do it, because it's not sexy, and Congress stopped caring.
+1 👍

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:27 pm
by runrussellrun
Kismet wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:46 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:33 am
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:39 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:57 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:31 am Yes. A bunch of reasonable, good natured, well informed posters have abandoned this toxic waste site. Too bad.
Maybe they finally had enough of your bad Holocaust jokes and sad racial humor. Nobody would miss you if you followed their lead. :oops:
Are there "good" holocaust jokes?
It wasn't a joke. It was an accurate analogy.
Garbage. That's the best analogy you could come up with?
You're still a disgrace (one of your hero's favorite words)
What the heck......are you guys even talking about ?

I mean....seriously....why even have thread names....at all ?

Hunter Biden plead guilty to GUN charges.....guilty. A plea of......

Joe Biden IS potusa...........why can't Joe Biden invite his 7th grand child to the White House.....or Camden "beach" house...

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:28 pm
by runrussellrun
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:27 pm
Kismet wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:46 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:33 am
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:39 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:57 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:31 am Yes. A bunch of reasonable, good natured, well informed posters have abandoned this toxic waste site. Too bad.
Maybe they finally had enough of your bad Holocaust jokes and sad racial humor. Nobody would miss you if you followed their lead. :oops:
Are there "good" holocaust jokes?
It wasn't a joke. It was an accurate analogy.
Garbage. That's the best analogy you could come up with?
You're still a disgrace (one of your hero's favorite words)
What the heck......are you guys even talking about ?

I mean....seriously....why even have thread names....at all ?

Hunter Biden plead guilty to GUN charges.....guilty. A plea of......

Joe Biden IS potusa...........why can't Joe Biden invite his 7th grand child to the White House.....or Camden "beach" house...
...back to ignore :lol:

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:08 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:38 pm That's not your "Deep State", OS. Because entrenched interests have been pulling the strings of Federal government long before you or I were born.

That's not AT ALL what you mean by Deep State.

And if it is? Then you have to explain how Trump made your Deep State 60% larger in just 4 years......and none of the TeamTinFoil crew mustered a single complaint about it in four years. The Deep State described above LOVES Trump. They want MORE of that.
I named names. I don't know how I can be more specific.
You and your citation from 2016 are two different things. That's all I'm saying.

To this day I don't understand why you think Trump is the one President we're not allowed to investigate.
https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/f ... apter5.htm
I. Levels of Investigative Activities
The General Crimes Guidelines authorize three graduated levels of investigative activity. These activities are the checking of initial leads, preliminary inquiries, and full investigations.


Barr, Durham (& I) maintain there was insufficient predication to escalate to a full investigation.

The results of Crossfire Hurricane & the Mueller Investigation, given the number & nature of convictions achieved, & the debunking of the original collusion premise, prove that Barr & Durham were correct in their assessment.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:24 am
by ggait
I. Levels of Investigative Activities
The General Crimes Guidelines authorize three graduated levels of investigative activity. These activities are the checking of initial leads, preliminary inquiries, and full investigations.

Barr, Durham (& I) maintain there was insufficient predication to escalate to a full investigation.
Salty Gaslight strikes again.

1. After 3.5 years of investigation, Durham concluded that it was perfectly righteous to open a preliminary inquiry level investigation.

2. The independent DOJ Inspector General in his report concluded that the opening of the overall investigation "was in compliance" with policies set by the FBI and the Department of Justice. The review found that there was an "authorized purpose" and "adequate factual predication" for launching the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. DOJ IG found zero evidence of political bias in opening the full investigation.

3. So Durham and DOJ IG both agree the matter merited investigation.

4. But Salty Gaslight wants you to have a cow and believe there's Deep State conspiracy persecution of the Trumpers (three of whom were convicted fyi) on the basis of the fine adminis-trivia distinction between a "preliminary inquiry" vs. a "full investigation."

I'm a lawyer and I couldn't tell you the difference between those two. Salty can't either. No one could who isn't versed in DOJ inside baseball.

So everyone agrees that Trump's crew of course merited investigation at level 2. But it was OUTRAGEOUS!!!!! to go to level 3 investigation. Seriously dude?

Just another steaming pile of lame MAGA BS from the Saltine.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector ... estigation.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:16 am
by old salt
ggait wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:24 am
I. Levels of Investigative Activities
The General Crimes Guidelines authorize three graduated levels of investigative activity. These activities are the checking of initial leads, preliminary inquiries, and full investigations.

Barr, Durham (& I) maintain there was insufficient predication to escalate to a full investigation.
Salty Gaslight strikes again.

1. After 3.5 years of investigation, Durham concluded that it was perfectly righteous to open a preliminary inquiry level investigation.

2. The independent DOJ Inspector General in his report concluded that the opening of the overall investigation "was in compliance" with policies set by the FBI and the Department of Justice. The review found that there was an "authorized purpose" and "adequate factual predication" for launching the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. DOJ IG found zero evidence of political bias in opening the full investigation.

3. So Durham and DOJ IG both agree the matter merited investigation.

4. But Salty Gaslight wants you to have a cow and believe there's Deep State conspiracy persecution of the Trumpers (three of whom were convicted fyi) on the basis of the fine adminis-trivia distinction between a "preliminary inquiry" vs. a "full investigation."

I'm a lawyer and I couldn't tell you the difference between those two. Salty can't either. No one could who isn't versed in DOJ inside baseball.

So everyone agrees that Trump's crew of course merited investigation at level 2. But it was OUTRAGEOUS!!!!! to go to level 3 investigation. Seriously dude?

Just another steaming pile of lame MAGA BS from the Saltine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector ... estigation.
The ggaslamp smoke generator refuses to acknowledge the huge leap in scope from a preliminary inquiry to a full blown investigation like Crossfire Hurricane growing even further into the Mueller Special Counsel Investigation. The DoJ IG has only limited access & scope of investigation. ...& obtw, what were the 3 convictions for ?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... d-without/

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:24 am
by ggait
The independent non partisan DOJ IG says a full investigation was completely and totally fine. Literally zero issues on that.

I’ll take his word over Barr and Durham every day.

And, of course, Salty Gaslight tellingly hides/ignores the independent non-partisan DOJ IG's report in his post. Which report says Barr and Durham are full of it. What a hack Salty is!!!

And that difference of opinion tells us the diff between level 2 and level 3 is a judgment call over which reasonable lawyers can differ.

And you really think we should believe Salty's deep state conspiracy theories because trump absolutely needed to be investigated (all agree on that), but just maybe not quite as much investigation as the independent non partisan DOJ IG thought was warranted?

FYI most prosecutors think the diff between the two levels is mice nuts.

But go ahead and keep claiming that this molehill is a mountain, Salty. You obviously know nothing about this and are blinded by your MAGA glasses.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:26 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:08 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:38 pm That's not your "Deep State", OS. Because entrenched interests have been pulling the strings of Federal government long before you or I were born.

That's not AT ALL what you mean by Deep State.

And if it is? Then you have to explain how Trump made your Deep State 60% larger in just 4 years......and none of the TeamTinFoil crew mustered a single complaint about it in four years. The Deep State described above LOVES Trump. They want MORE of that.
I named names. I don't know how I can be more specific.
You and your citation from 2016 are two different things. That's all I'm saying.

To this day I don't understand why you think Trump is the one President we're not allowed to investigate.
https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/f ... apter5.htm
I. Levels of Investigative Activities
The General Crimes Guidelines authorize three graduated levels of investigative activity. These activities are the checking of initial leads, preliminary inquiries, and full investigations.


Barr, Durham (& I) maintain there was insufficient predication to escalate to a full investigation.
The compromised opinions of three compromised Republicans. And the felony convictions say you were all 100% wrong. If you all had your way, Manafort would be a Federal employee after having worked for Vladimir Putin. Hard pass.

We'll never agree on this.

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:37 pm
by Kismet
a fan wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:26 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:08 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:38 pm That's not your "Deep State", OS. Because entrenched interests have been pulling the strings of Federal government long before you or I were born.

That's not AT ALL what you mean by Deep State.

And if it is? Then you have to explain how Trump made your Deep State 60% larger in just 4 years......and none of the TeamTinFoil crew mustered a single complaint about it in four years. The Deep State described above LOVES Trump. They want MORE of that.
I named names. I don't know how I can be more specific.
You and your citation from 2016 are two different things. That's all I'm saying.

To this day I don't understand why you think Trump is the one President we're not allowed to investigate.
https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/f ... apter5.htm
I. Levels of Investigative Activities
The General Crimes Guidelines authorize three graduated levels of investigative activity. These activities are the checking of initial leads, preliminary inquiries, and full investigations.


Barr, Durham (& I) maintain there was insufficient predication to escalate to a full investigation.
The compromised opinions of three compromised Republicans. And the felony convictions say you were all 100% wrong. If you all had your way, Manafort would be a Federal employee after having worked for Vladimir Putin. Hard pass.

We'll never agree on this.
Not to mention that they were all pardoned by Orange Cheato except Rick Gates whom he considered a rat for cooperating.
La Cosa Trumpa. :evil:

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:04 pm
by OCanada
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:37 am
OCanada wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:58 am
runrussellrun wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:06 am
RedFromMI wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:03 pm Great summary on Twitter from Jeff Tiedrich:
listen up, stupids:
there is no "Hunter Biden laptop."
what exists is a disembodied hard drive that Rudy Giuliani farted on.
here's a dose of reality:
someone hacked Hunter Biden's iPhone.
they stole his data and downloaded it to a laptop.
"a" laptop — not "Hunter Biden's" laptop.
the hackers mixed some of Hunter Biden's actual data with a lot of faked bullsh!t.
forensic analysis has proved this.
this laptop's hard drive made its way to Rudy Giuliani.
the drive may have also passed through the hands of as many as 40 people.
your so-called "evidence" is f*cking worthless.
go read up about 'chain of custody' and get back to me.
meanwhile, sit the f*ck down and stop making noise, you sound like a weird obsessed loser
There is _far_ more evidence for this view than any other…
Such as Hunter, himself, admitting that all the naked, smoking stuff, stuff, IS real? That HE did the selfies.

that kind of "more" evidence?

IRS wanted to know about the million$ that JOE got.....in 2014.....from Romonia

Irony abounds here. Nothing you said negates the larger havk and dump explanation.
...all we know is that the Obama/Biden administration did nothing to help the Iraq war vets effected by oil pit stuff......fact.

Also a fact, is HUNTER BIDEN, himself, admits to everything and anything...on the laptop.

Unless you can find ONE thing Hunter disputes.

good luck

Maybe Hunter wouldnt' have taken the crack cocaine pipe to his lips if his brother was still with us............just maybe ;)

I am mildly surprised you do not understand what a hack is and how it was employed with Clintom amd is appearing more snd more likely here. Strategic thinking not a strong point it appears. Irrelevance is strong in you