2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://apple.news/AKxVO_7gETX6H0L653_Gq2w

Thought provoking article and something I have thought about. I didn’t know serious thought has been put into it.

“In 2010, he predicted that the unrest would get serious around 2020, and that it wouldn’t let up until those social and political trends reversed. Havoc at the level of the late 1960s and early ’70s is the best-case scenario; all-out civil war is the worst.
The fundamental problems, he says, are a dark triad of social maladies: a bloated elite class, with too few elite jobs to go around; declining living standards among the general population; and a government that can’t cover its financial positions. His models, which track these factors in other societies across history, are too complicated to explain in a nontechnical publication. But they’ve succeeded in impressing writers for nontechnical publications, and have won him comparisons to other authors of “megahistories,” such as Jared Diamond and Yuval Noah Harari. The New York Times columnist Ross Douthat had once found Turchin’s historical model­ing unpersuasive, but 2020 made him a believer: “At this point,” Douthat recently admitted on a podcast, “I feel like you have to pay a little more attention to him.”

[a fan]

Are you certain he qualified for the EITC & how many years was it avail to him ?

EITC & SNAP was available to everyone who qualified.

EITC or SNAP to student debt forgivess is not a valid comparison.

So double down, and pretend like you don't get my point? Nice try.

How about this: if you believe what this guy is selling, this means we can NEVER add new programs of benefits. "Because" it screws the previous generation that didn't get them.

So my great grandparents didn't get SS or Medicare. This guy thinks that that makes them Chumps. They also didn't have access to the SUNY system of schools in NY State----so they couldn't afford taxpayer funded college. That mean they're chumps, too?

The problem here, as usual, is that no one is around to challenge their *hit logic. So they sit in their echo chamber, and get more angry.

Another simple question for angry man is: did your daughter go to public school? Then tell me why your childless friends had to help pay for that? Are they chumps, too?

We're rewarding and encouraging ignorance and selfishness. Stop doing that. This man didn't bother to understand that he fleeced his fellow childless friends, and got a public ed for his daughter. And is he thankful? Nope. Instead? He demands to know why he didn't get a bennie "someone else" got.

I"m sick of this selfish attitude. The people in your party get more and more "i got mine, f everyone else" with each passing day they live in the FoxNation echo chamber.

You wanna go every man for himself? Great. When do we start? Never, of course, because the angry man would have lost his *hit if you told him "hey, sorry mate, all public schools are closed this year, you have to come up with tuition for private school for your daughter".

[3rdPersonPlural]

https://theweek.com/speedreads/949542/t ... ht-theater

"Looking beyond the legal challenges that Trump evidently understands are doomed, he's reportedly interested in launching a digital media company to rival Fox News, and according to Reuters, he has told allies "he planned to run for president in 2024 and could announce it by the end of the year." The Post is reporting the same, writing, "Rather than talking about a second term, Trump has been matter-of-factly discussing a possible 2024 campaign — an indication that he knows his time as president is coming to an end, at least for now." Brendan Morrow"

[Matnum PI]

Trump's followers are jumping to NewsMax in numbers over Fox.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Good Riddance:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2 ... came-from/

[Cooter]

Looking like some ballots are getting thrown out in PA.

[ggait]

Looking like some ballots are getting thrown out in PA.

Believe those are post marked ballots delivered after Election Day. Since they have never been included in the tally, there is no impact on the margin or count. They were always kept separate.

10k of those. As mail in ballots, likely would have increased Joe’s lead further if they had been counted.

[old salt]

Are you certain he qualified for the EITC & how many years was it avail to him ?

EITC & SNAP was available to everyone who qualified.

EITC or SNAP to student debt forgivess is not a valid comparison.

So double down, and pretend like you don't get my point? Nice try

Sheesh. Yeah, I get your point. Everybody's a socialist. Especially FNC watchers.
It's like the universal solvent. Give it a rest, already. You're wearing me out.

[DocBarrister]

Fourth state Biden has flipped from 2016. AP and Fox News called AZ last week, but now all the major news outlets have joined them.

Biden now has 290 electoral votes.

Georgia will be called for Biden soon.

DocBarrister

[Cooter]

Looking like some ballots are getting thrown out in PA.

Believe those are post marked ballots delivered after Election Day. Since they have never been included in the tally, there is no impact on the margin or count. They were always kept separate.

10k of those. As mail in ballots, likely would have increased Joe’s lead further if they had been counted.

Why would Trump go to court to have ballots thrown out that weren't counted?

[a fan]

Looking like some ballots are getting thrown out in PA.

Believe those are post marked ballots delivered after Election Day. Since they have never been included in the tally, there is no impact on the margin or count. They were always kept separate.

10k of those. As mail in ballots, likely would have increased Joe’s lead further if they had been counted.

Why would Trump go to court to have ballots thrown out that weren't counted?

This isn't a serious question, is it?

[a fan]

Are you certain he qualified for the EITC & how many years was it avail to him ?

EITC & SNAP was available to everyone who qualified.

EITC or SNAP to student debt forgivess is not a valid comparison.

So double down, and pretend like you don't get my point? Nice try

Sheesh. Yeah, I get your point. Everybody's a socialist. Especially FNC watchers.
It's like the universal solvent. Give it a rest, already. You're wearing me out.

Make you a deal: you don't trot out the broken record of "the libs are bad and give free stuff away".

And I won't trot out the broken record of "FoxNation are hypocrites, and take more handouts than anyone in the history of our nation, but are too freaking stupid to understand that's what they do".

Deal?

[CU77]

Looking like some ballots are getting thrown out in PA.

Believe those are post marked ballots delivered after Election Day.

Actually only a tiny fraction of those were thrown out:

The Trump campaign on Thursday won a case that attempted to disqualify a small number of mail-in ballots for first-time Pennsylvania voters who were unable to confirm their identification by Nov. 9.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime ... 2011120132

[old salt]

Are you certain he qualified for the EITC & how many years was it avail to him ?

EITC & SNAP was available to everyone who qualified.

EITC or SNAP to student debt forgivess is not a valid comparison.

So double down, and pretend like you don't get my point? Nice try

Sheesh. Yeah, I get your point. Everybody's a socialist. Especially FNC watchers.
It's like the universal solvent. Give it a rest, already. You're wearing me out.

Make you a deal: you don't trot out the broken record of "the libs are bad and give free stuff away".

And I won't trot out the broken record of "FoxNation are hypocrites, and take more handouts than anyone in the history of our nation, but are too freaking stupid to understand that's what they do".

Deal?

I've been avoiding discussions which present an opportunity for your socialism rant,
...but they've become few & far between.

[RedFromMI]

What the world thinks:

[CU88]

Heather Cox Richardson
4 hrs ·
November 12, 2020 (Thursday)
Tonight, the major networks called Arizona for Joe Biden. This means Arizona has voted for a Democrat for president for the first time since 1996, when Ross Perot’s bid for the presidency siphoned off votes from Republican candidate Bob Dole and let Democratic candidate Bill Clinton clinch the state. Before that, the last time Arizona backed a Democrat was in 1948, when it went for Harry Truman.
Since the numbers in Biden’s column now make up an insurmountable margin for Trump to overcome, the Trump campaign is now saying that the computers in certain states switched votes from him to Biden. This has been thoroughly debunked. This afternoon, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in the Department of Homeland Security circulated a statement by the Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council, a group of federal, state, and local officials, declaring that the 2020 election was “the most secure in American history” and that “there is no evidence” of tampering with any voting systems.
Perhaps more to the point, Trump has been telling people that he will announce a run for the 2024 presidency as soon as the vote is certified for Biden. This would keep money flowing into his pockets, as well as keeping him in the news. Sources have told Maggie Haberman at the New York Times that the president has no grand strategy other than to keep his supporters energized to follow him into whatever he does next, including, perhaps, launching a competitor to the Fox News Channel.
Meanwhile, the president is holed up in the White House, his public schedule empty, tweeting about how he has won an election that everyone knows he lost.
One of the things he is ignoring is the devastating spread of coronavirus through this country. Today more than 153,000 new cases were reported, with 66,000 people hospitalized. More than 10.4 million Americans have been infected with the coronavirus, and more than 242,000 have died.
While the White House election night watch party has turned into a superspreader event, today ensnaring former 2016 Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, most infections are now caused not by large public events but by small gatherings at home: dinner parties, carpools, playdates. These indoor events create “perfect conditions for a virus that can spread among people who are crowded into a poorly ventilated space,” write the doctors and public health officials at the PolicyLab of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. Cases are not only on the rise, but also more severe. Experts remind us that we should avoid spending more than 15 minutes within six feet of anyone outside our own household in any 24-hour period, and they beg people to stay home for the holidays this year.
President-Elect Joe Biden has been out of the news, working. His new chief of staff, Ronald Klain, told reporters that he has been speaking privately to Republicans, although he has not talked to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. While Republicans appear to want to keep up the public narrative that the results of the election are unclear, they are beginning to demand that Biden get access to the intelligence reports Trump is keeping from him. Shutting the president-elect out of intelligence reports hampers our national security not only with regard to foreign affairs, but also with regard to the coronavirus, leaving Biden out of the planning to roll out a vaccine, for example.
Among the phone calls Biden has had with world leaders was one today with Pope Francis. According to the call readout, the pope offered Biden blessings and congratulations; Biden thanked the pope for promoting the common bonds of humanity and said he hoped to work together on issues that touched on their shared belief “in the dignity and equality of all humankind.” He singled out “caring for the marginalized and the poor, addressing the crisis of climate change, and welcoming and integrating immigrants and refugees into our communities"—all areas in which the pope has called on global leaders to take action, and on which the Biden administration's policies are expected to differ from its predecessor's. Biden will be America’s second Catholic president. (John F. Kennedy, elected in 1960, was the first.)
Biden has announced policy teams to help with the transition. They are made up largely of volunteers who will review the different government agencies and make policy recommendations. The Biden-Harris team notes that the transition will prioritize “diversity of ideology and background; talent to address society’s most complex challenges; integrity and the highest ethical standards to serve the American people and not special interests; and transparency to garner trust at every stage.” The names on the transition teams are impressive ones. Stanford Law School Professor Pamela Karlan, who testified before the House Judiciary Committee during the impeachment hearings will be part of the team that reviews the Department of Justice for the transition.
Lara Seligman at Politico reported today that Biden has been reaching out to former Pentagon officials who retired or were fired in the past four years to talk about the transition and whether or not they might want to go back into the Defense Department. The Biden team is talking to former officials because the current ones are Trump loyalists and team members don’t think they will be particularly cooperative or, for that matter, very knowledgeable. Seligman says that Biden wants to create a bipartisan leadership team at the Defense Department. In a notable change from the past four years, Biden’s agency review team for the Pentagon is led by female defense policy experts.
Biden tweeted just once today, after six American National Guardsmen, along with a Czech and a French team member, died in a helicopter crash in Egypt during a peacekeeping mission. One American was wounded. While the current president apparently ignored the loss, using Twitter to spread false rumors about the election and to attack the Fox News Channel, Biden tweeted: “I extend my deep condolences to the loved ones of the peacekeepers, including 6 American service members, who died on Tiran Island, and wish a speedy recovery to the surviving American. I join all Americans in honoring their sacrifice, as I keep their loved ones in my prayers.”

[cradleandshoot]

Are you certain he qualified for the EITC & how many years was it avail to him ?

EITC & SNAP was available to everyone who qualified.

EITC or SNAP to student debt forgivess is not a valid comparison.

So double down, and pretend like you don't get my point? Nice try.

How about this: if you believe what this guy is selling, this means we can NEVER add new programs of benefits. "Because" it screws the previous generation that didn't get them.

So my great grandparents didn't get SS or Medicare. This guy thinks that that makes them Chumps. They also didn't have access to the SUNY system of schools in NY State----so they couldn't afford taxpayer funded college. That mean they're chumps, too?

The problem here, as usual, is that no one is around to challenge their *hit logic. So they sit in their echo chamber, and get more angry.

Another simple question for angry man is: did your daughter go to public school? Then tell me why your childless friends had to help pay for that? Are they chumps, too?

We're rewarding and encouraging ignorance and selfishness. Stop doing that. This man didn't bother to understand that he fleeced his fellow childless friends, and got a public ed for his daughter. And is he thankful? Nope. Instead? He demands to know why he didn't get a bennie "someone else" got.

I"m sick of this selfish attitude. The people in your party get more and more "i got mine, f everyone else" with each passing day they live in the FoxNation echo chamber.

You wanna go every man for himself? Great. When do we start? Never, of course, because the angry man would have lost his *hit if you told him "hey, sorry mate, all public schools are closed this year, you have to come up with tuition for private school for your daughter".

If they closed the public schools a Fan they could probably save a chitload full of money. Here in my Upstate NY FLP state of Nirvana our city school district is spending close to 20 grand per student and can't get kids to read above a 4th grade level. We won't get in to the abysmal math scores. You know where 2+2 = 47 and the student gets a gold star on the forehead for a great effort. When it comes to reading d...o...g... spells cat. Good job student, you were sooooo close to getting it right. Next year when your a senior in HS they will give you the remedial assistance in spelling you might need. No problem there scooter, your well on the way to going to college. Those tablets you will use in college all have spell check on them...

[cradleandshoot]

Heather Cox Richardson
4 hrs ·
November 12, 2020 (Thursday)
Tonight, the major networks called Arizona for Joe Biden. This means Arizona has voted for a Democrat for president for the first time since 1996, when Ross Perot’s bid for the presidency siphoned off votes from Republican candidate Bob Dole and let Democratic candidate Bill Clinton clinch the state. Before that, the last time Arizona backed a Democrat was in 1948, when it went for Harry Truman.
Since the numbers in Biden’s column now make up an insurmountable margin for Trump to overcome, the Trump campaign is now saying that the computers in certain states switched votes from him to Biden. This has been thoroughly debunked. This afternoon, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in the Department of Homeland Security circulated a statement by the Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council, a group of federal, state, and local officials, declaring that the 2020 election was “the most secure in American history” and that “there is no evidence” of tampering with any voting systems.
Perhaps more to the point, Trump has been telling people that he will announce a run for the 2024 presidency as soon as the vote is certified for Biden. This would keep money flowing into his pockets, as well as keeping him in the news. Sources have told Maggie Haberman at the New York Times that the president has no grand strategy other than to keep his supporters energized to follow him into whatever he does next, including, perhaps, launching a competitor to the Fox News Channel.
Meanwhile, the president is holed up in the White House, his public schedule empty, tweeting about how he has won an election that everyone knows he lost.
One of the things he is ignoring is the devastating spread of coronavirus through this country. Today more than 153,000 new cases were reported, with 66,000 people hospitalized. More than 10.4 million Americans have been infected with the coronavirus, and more than 242,000 have died.
While the White House election night watch party has turned into a superspreader event, today ensnaring former 2016 Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, most infections are now caused not by large public events but by small gatherings at home: dinner parties, carpools, playdates. These indoor events create “perfect conditions for a virus that can spread among people who are crowded into a poorly ventilated space,” write the doctors and public health officials at the PolicyLab of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. Cases are not only on the rise, but also more severe. Experts remind us that we should avoid spending more than 15 minutes within six feet of anyone outside our own household in any 24-hour period, and they beg people to stay home for the holidays this year.
President-Elect Joe Biden has been out of the news, working. His new chief of staff, Ronald Klain, told reporters that he has been speaking privately to Republicans, although he has not talked to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. While Republicans appear to want to keep up the public narrative that the results of the election are unclear, they are beginning to demand that Biden get access to the intelligence reports Trump is keeping from him. Shutting the president-elect out of intelligence reports hampers our national security not only with regard to foreign affairs, but also with regard to the coronavirus, leaving Biden out of the planning to roll out a vaccine, for example.
Among the phone calls Biden has had with world leaders was one today with Pope Francis. According to the call readout, the pope offered Biden blessings and congratulations; Biden thanked the pope for promoting the common bonds of humanity and said he hoped to work together on issues that touched on their shared belief “in the dignity and equality of all humankind.” He singled out “caring for the marginalized and the poor, addressing the crisis of climate change, and welcoming and integrating immigrants and refugees into our communities"—all areas in which the pope has called on global leaders to take action, and on which the Biden administration's policies are expected to differ from its predecessor's. Biden will be America’s second Catholic president. (John F. Kennedy, elected in 1960, was the first.)
Biden has announced policy teams to help with the transition. They are made up largely of volunteers who will review the different government agencies and make policy recommendations. The Biden-Harris team notes that the transition will prioritize “diversity of ideology and background; talent to address society’s most complex challenges; integrity and the highest ethical standards to serve the American people and not special interests; and transparency to garner trust at every stage.” The names on the transition teams are impressive ones. Stanford Law School Professor Pamela Karlan, who testified before the House Judiciary Committee during the impeachment hearings will be part of the team that reviews the Department of Justice for the transition.
Lara Seligman at Politico reported today that Biden has been reaching out to former Pentagon officials who retired or were fired in the past four years to talk about the transition and whether or not they might want to go back into the Defense Department. The Biden team is talking to former officials because the current ones are Trump loyalists and team members don’t think they will be particularly cooperative or, for that matter, very knowledgeable. Seligman says that Biden wants to create a bipartisan leadership team at the Defense Department. In a notable change from the past four years, Biden’s agency review team for the Pentagon is led by female defense policy experts.
Biden tweeted just once today, after six American National Guardsmen, along with a Czech and a French team member, died in a helicopter crash in Egypt during a peacekeeping mission. One American was wounded. While the current president apparently ignored the loss, using Twitter to spread false rumors about the election and to attack the Fox News Channel, Biden tweeted: “I extend my deep condolences to the loved ones of the peacekeepers, including 6 American service members, who died on Tiran Island, and wish a speedy recovery to the surviving American. I join all Americans in honoring their sacrifice, as I keep their loved ones in my prayers.”

Did Heather Cox come out of some porn site you frequent?

[RedFromMI]

Heather Cox Richardson
4 hrs ·
November 12, 2020 (Thursday)
Tonight, the major networks called Arizona for Joe Biden. This means Arizona has voted for a Democrat for president for the first time since 1996, when Ross Perot’s bid for the presidency siphoned off votes from Republican candidate Bob Dole and let Democratic candidate Bill Clinton clinch the state. Before that, the last time Arizona backed a Democrat was in 1948, when it went for Harry Truman.
Since the numbers in Biden’s column now make up an insurmountable margin for Trump to overcome, the Trump campaign is now saying that the computers in certain states switched votes from him to Biden. This has been thoroughly debunked. This afternoon, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in the Department of Homeland Security circulated a statement by the Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council, a group of federal, state, and local officials, declaring that the 2020 election was “the most secure in American history” and that “there is no evidence” of tampering with any voting systems.
Perhaps more to the point, Trump has been telling people that he will announce a run for the 2024 presidency as soon as the vote is certified for Biden. This would keep money flowing into his pockets, as well as keeping him in the news. Sources have told Maggie Haberman at the New York Times that the president has no grand strategy other than to keep his supporters energized to follow him into whatever he does next, including, perhaps, launching a competitor to the Fox News Channel.
Meanwhile, the president is holed up in the White House, his public schedule empty, tweeting about how he has won an election that everyone knows he lost.
One of the things he is ignoring is the devastating spread of coronavirus through this country. Today more than 153,000 new cases were reported, with 66,000 people hospitalized. More than 10.4 million Americans have been infected with the coronavirus, and more than 242,000 have died.
While the White House election night watch party has turned into a superspreader event, today ensnaring former 2016 Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, most infections are now caused not by large public events but by small gatherings at home: dinner parties, carpools, playdates. These indoor events create “perfect conditions for a virus that can spread among people who are crowded into a poorly ventilated space,” write the doctors and public health officials at the PolicyLab of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. Cases are not only on the rise, but also more severe. Experts remind us that we should avoid spending more than 15 minutes within six feet of anyone outside our own household in any 24-hour period, and they beg people to stay home for the holidays this year.
President-Elect Joe Biden has been out of the news, working. His new chief of staff, Ronald Klain, told reporters that he has been speaking privately to Republicans, although he has not talked to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. While Republicans appear to want to keep up the public narrative that the results of the election are unclear, they are beginning to demand that Biden get access to the intelligence reports Trump is keeping from him. Shutting the president-elect out of intelligence reports hampers our national security not only with regard to foreign affairs, but also with regard to the coronavirus, leaving Biden out of the planning to roll out a vaccine, for example.
Among the phone calls Biden has had with world leaders was one today with Pope Francis. According to the call readout, the pope offered Biden blessings and congratulations; Biden thanked the pope for promoting the common bonds of humanity and said he hoped to work together on issues that touched on their shared belief “in the dignity and equality of all humankind.” He singled out “caring for the marginalized and the poor, addressing the crisis of climate change, and welcoming and integrating immigrants and refugees into our communities"—all areas in which the pope has called on global leaders to take action, and on which the Biden administration's policies are expected to differ from its predecessor's. Biden will be America’s second Catholic president. (John F. Kennedy, elected in 1960, was the first.)
Biden has announced policy teams to help with the transition. They are made up largely of volunteers who will review the different government agencies and make policy recommendations. The Biden-Harris team notes that the transition will prioritize “diversity of ideology and background; talent to address society’s most complex challenges; integrity and the highest ethical standards to serve the American people and not special interests; and transparency to garner trust at every stage.” The names on the transition teams are impressive ones. Stanford Law School Professor Pamela Karlan, who testified before the House Judiciary Committee during the impeachment hearings will be part of the team that reviews the Department of Justice for the transition.
Lara Seligman at Politico reported today that Biden has been reaching out to former Pentagon officials who retired or were fired in the past four years to talk about the transition and whether or not they might want to go back into the Defense Department. The Biden team is talking to former officials because the current ones are Trump loyalists and team members don’t think they will be particularly cooperative or, for that matter, very knowledgeable. Seligman says that Biden wants to create a bipartisan leadership team at the Defense Department. In a notable change from the past four years, Biden’s agency review team for the Pentagon is led by female defense policy experts.
Biden tweeted just once today, after six American National Guardsmen, along with a Czech and a French team member, died in a helicopter crash in Egypt during a peacekeeping mission. One American was wounded. While the current president apparently ignored the loss, using Twitter to spread false rumors about the election and to attack the Fox News Channel, Biden tweeted: “I extend my deep condolences to the loved ones of the peacekeepers, including 6 American service members, who died on Tiran Island, and wish a speedy recovery to the surviving American. I join all Americans in honoring their sacrifice, as I keep their loved ones in my prayers.”

Did Heather Cox come out of some porn site you frequent?

From Wikipedia:

Heather Cox Richardson is an American historian and Professor of History at Boston College, where she teaches courses on the American Civil War, the Reconstruction Era, the American West, and the Plains Indians. She previously taught at MIT and the University of Massachusetts. Richardson has authored six books.

I guess if you are into history porn...

[MDlaxfan76]

Are you certain he qualified for the EITC & how many years was it avail to him ?

EITC & SNAP was available to everyone who qualified.

EITC or SNAP to student debt forgivess is not a valid comparison.

So double down, and pretend like you don't get my point? Nice try.

How about this: if you believe what this guy is selling, this means we can NEVER add new programs of benefits. "Because" it screws the previous generation that didn't get them.

So my great grandparents didn't get SS or Medicare. This guy thinks that that makes them Chumps. They also didn't have access to the SUNY system of schools in NY State----so they couldn't afford taxpayer funded college. That mean they're chumps, too?

The problem here, as usual, is that no one is around to challenge their *hit logic. So they sit in their echo chamber, and get more angry.

Another simple question for angry man is: did your daughter go to public school? Then tell me why your childless friends had to help pay for that? Are they chumps, too?

We're rewarding and encouraging ignorance and selfishness. Stop doing that. This man didn't bother to understand that he fleeced his fellow childless friends, and got a public ed for his daughter. And is he thankful? Nope. Instead? He demands to know why he didn't get a bennie "someone else" got.

I"m sick of this selfish attitude. The people in your party get more and more "i got mine, f everyone else" with each passing day they live in the FoxNation echo chamber.

You wanna go every man for himself? Great. When do we start? Never, of course, because the angry man would have lost his *hit if you told him "hey, sorry mate, all public schools are closed this year, you have to come up with tuition for private school for your daughter".

If they closed the public schools a Fan they could probably save a chitload full of money. Here in my Upstate NY FLP state of Nirvana our city school district is spending close to 20 grand per student and can't get kids to read above a 4th grade level. We won't get in to the abysmal math scores. You know where 2+2 = 47 and the student gets a gold star on the forehead for a great effort. When it comes to reading d...o...g... spells cat. Good job student, you were sooooo close to getting it right. Next year when your a senior in HS they will give you the remedial assistance in spelling you might need. No problem there scooter, your well on the way to going to college. Those tablets you will use in college all have spell check on them...

Ok, so go without.
Stop whining, go without.

or...work to make them better...

BTW, did you send your kids to public school?