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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

Agreed. I supposed the volume comment bringing up provided DMac the opportunity to reflect given his subsequent comments so it kind of worked out in the end it seems

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

+1

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:08 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:42 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:23 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:29 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:13 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:46 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:44 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:56 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 1:40 pm I'd be upset as a parent too.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/calif ... f26d8&ei=6

Why? Chances are their child will lose to someone at some point. The earlier we learn these lessons the better.

Indeed, both 2nd and 3rd place finishers were blown away badly by the #1 finisher...a "biological female"....anyone bothered by the winner being so much better???

Why would they be?

Exactly.
Someone else was born with more speed...'biologically advantaged'.

ahh well

You can't possibly be saying that these are one in the same, can you?

In terms of losing, yeah.

There's almost always someone, bigger, stronger, faster, more coordinated...whatever...and these are biologically, genetically, determined traits. It doesn't really matter how someone was born with these traits; they are "biological advantages".

Individuals are different and that's a fact of life.

Now, what we do with them, how well we train our minds and bodies for peak performance, how well we rise to competition pressure, these are things to celebrate as one's own efforts.

Someone who competes in a sport that is timed always has themselves as their own measure. Improve my time and I've succeeded. But someone is almost always faster if I look hard enough to find that competition. Doesn't mean I failed, indeed I could run or swim or whatever my very fastest time and "lose"...yet I've succeeded in my own effort.

And if that's not how we're looking at high school sports, we're really missing the point.

While this is all true it's jibber jabber nonsense that is avoiding the issue at hand.
Born male competing against females is the issue.

Born “male” isn’t so straight forward. You do know a doctor often makes that call at birth, right?

https://isna.org/faq/frequency/#

Here’s what we do know: If you ask experts at medical centers how often a child is born so noticeably atypical in terms of genitalia that a specialist in sex differentiation is called in, the number comes out to about 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births. But a lot more people than that are born with subtler forms of sex anatomy variations, some of which won’t show up until later in life.

It’s not that easy when you know nothing at all about a person’s medical history. My wife teaches genetics so I have come across some of this…. Not always as straightforward as we laymen think.

... naw, this is just elitests trying to make job security for themselves.

... maybe there is a problem (a big one in my opinion) with how we organize our sports teams. Take a lesson from auto racing / horse racing. Age based / gender based "sport classes" is the only reason we are having either of these discussions. This is again tied to what we view as the goal of sports.

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

Damn, we've come a long way, baby. Thanks.
This discussion isn't going away anytime soon.
Have put my favorite tranny story on here a couple of times. Am at my friend's son's house and there's a gal out there taking a tree down. Tight spot between houses, needed ropes and ladder to take it down a branch at a time, and this gal knew what she was doing. Couldn't help but notice she was a little on the muscular side. Was beyond resistible for me to not go down and offer to help to get a little closer look. Helped with the rope a little and held the ladder. Turns out the she was a longshoreman, had a nice chat and I'm glad I went down for the closer look. Saw her a year or so later at a Chinese buffet, said hello and reminded her of our prior meeting. Was all good.
I don't care about trannies and sexual preferences, everyone is fair game with me...it's all good. When that tranny steps on a ballfield with the girls I fully understand the reaction it's going to bring though.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:02 pm ... maybe there is a problem (a big one in my opinion) with how we organize our sports teams. Take a lesson from auto racing / horse racing. Age based / gender based "sport classes" is the only reason we are having either of these discussions. This is again tied to how we view the goal of sports.

I think this would be a very interesting conversation to have. Maybe Americans focus on the competitive lessons sports teach to athletes and we value the competition because our culture puts so much emphasis on the individual. In other countries around the world, maybe the importance of sports is different. Maybe it's more about the good of the collective/community. I imagine the soccer courts in the Paris suburbs where so many of the French National soccer team grew up playing don't have age groups with kids and parents gaming the system. I imagine that a 8 year old could play against a 15 year old there. The benefits of that would be the same as a Montessori school.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:02 pm ... maybe there is a problem (a big one in my opinion) with how we organize our sports teams. Take a lesson from auto racing / horse racing. Age based / gender based "sport classes" is the only reason we are having either of these discussions. This is again tied to what we view as the goal of sports.

There’s generally a biological difference though. Set aside football, other contact sports, even basketball. The bodies store fat differently etc. Healthy competition and challenges - it’s a fine line. I’ve also drifted away from baseball over the years because the model is dictating behavior and to me the beauty of sports is Enos Slaughter scoring from first, guys not being pulled during perfect games but trying to close them out or Pete Rose dropping the thunder on Ray Fosse. The analytics has taken the sport out of sports already.

DMac wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:13 pm

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

Damn, we've come a long way, baby. Thanks.
This discussion isn't going away anytime soon.
Have put my favorite tranny story on here a couple of times. Am at my friend's son's house and there's a gal out there taking a tree down. Tight spot between houses, needed ropes and ladder to take it down a branch at a time, and this gal knew what she was doing. Couldn't help but notice she was a little on the muscular side. Was beyond resistible for me to not go down and offer to help to get a little closer look. Helped with the rope a little and held the ladder. Turns out the she was a longshoreman, had a nice chat and I'm glad I went down for the closer look. Saw her a year or so later at a Chinese buffet, said hello and reminded her of our prior meeting. Was all good.
I don't care about trannies and sexual preferences, everyone is fair game with me...it's all good. When that tranny steps on a ballfield with the girls I fully understand the reaction it's going to bring though.

How many times have you watched Dan Patrick in Grown Ups 2 in slow motion?

https://youtu.be/nEmLgZmMyrE

DMac wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:13 pm

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

Damn, we've come a long way, baby. Thanks.
This discussion isn't going away anytime soon.
Have put my favorite tranny story on here a couple of times. Am at my friend's son's house and there's a gal out there taking a tree down. Tight spot between houses, needed ropes and ladder to take it down a branch at a time, and this gal knew what she was doing. Couldn't help but notice she was a little on the muscular side. Was beyond resistible for me to not go down and offer to help to get a little closer look. Helped with the rope a little and held the ladder. Turns out the she was a longshoreman, had a nice chat and I'm glad I went down for the closer look. Saw her a year or so later at a Chinese buffet, said hello and reminded her of our prior meeting. Was all good.
I don't care about trannies and sexual preferences, everyone is fair game with me...it's all good. When that tranny steps on a ballfield with the girls I fully understand the reaction it's going to bring though.

The question I have is: if the idea is simply allowing Trans athletes to compete just like everyone else, what's the harm in having a trans woman compete with boys/men if that sport has that as an option?

In other words, why wouldn't Trans swimmer LIa Thompson simply compete with men? What's the harm to her or the men? What am I missing?

DMac wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:13 pm

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

Damn, we've come a long way, baby. Thanks.
This discussion isn't going away anytime soon.
Have put my favorite tranny story on here a couple of times. Am at my friend's son's house and there's a gal out there taking a tree down. Tight spot between houses, needed ropes and ladder to take it down a branch at a time, and this gal knew what she was doing. Couldn't help but notice she was a little on the muscular side. Was beyond resistible for me to not go down and offer to help to get a little closer look. Helped with the rope a little and held the ladder. Turns out the she was a longshoreman, had a nice chat and I'm glad I went down for the closer look. Saw her a year or so later at a Chinese buffet, said hello and reminded her of our prior meeting. Was all good.
I don't care about trannies and sexual preferences, everyone is fair game with me...it's all good. When that tranny steps on a ballfield with the girls I fully understand the reaction it's going to bring though.

There is a former lax player that you saw often that is now a woman. Player was back for alumni game up your way a couple of years ago. Other than the initial surprise the teammates didn’t seem to care much about it. The press coverage is disproportionate in part because politicians have found it to be a wedge issue. It’s not that important

DMac wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:13 pm

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

Damn, we've come a long way, baby. Thanks.
This discussion isn't going away anytime soon.
Have put my favorite tranny story on here a couple of times. Am at my friend's son's house and there's a gal out there taking a tree down. Tight spot between houses, needed ropes and ladder to take it down a branch at a time, and this gal knew what she was doing. Couldn't help but notice she was a little on the muscular side. Was beyond resistible for me to not go down and offer to help to get a little closer look. Helped with the rope a little and held the ladder. Turns out the she was a longshoreman, had a nice chat and I'm glad I went down for the closer look. Saw her a year or so later at a Chinese buffet, said hello and reminded her of our prior meeting. Was all good.
I don't care about trannies and sexual preferences, everyone is fair game with me...it's all good. When that tranny steps on a ballfield with the girls I fully understand the reaction it's going to bring though.

... reminds me of Linda Johnson, a friend / acquaintance from elementary school. Linda came to my attention in 3rd grade. She was a tomboy. Linda was very good in all sports. Easily competed with the boys in her grade level and a number of grades above. When I met Linda, she already had breasts, they were developed enough to be noticed. We (the boys in her class) always wanted her on our team. Always one of the first picks in a school yard sporting contest. The average athletic boy didn't catch up with her until high school. My high school sport teams were nothing to write home about. The girls high school teams, the ones Linda played on were always at the top of the standings, winning a number of championships. Linda was a very average student when I knew her.

There is a very large degree of physical (and mental) variance in both boys and girls growing up through high school. In the youngest age groups the girls are generally ahead in development.

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:16 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:02 pm ... maybe there is a problem (a big one in my opinion) with how we organize our sports teams. Take a lesson from auto racing / horse racing. Age based / gender based "sport classes" is the only reason we are having either of these discussions. This is again tied to how we view the goal of sports.

I think this would be a very interesting conversation to have. Maybe Americans focus on the competitive lessons sports teach to athletes and we value the competition because our culture puts so much emphasis on the individual. In other countries around the world, maybe the importance of sports is different. Maybe it's more about the good of the collective/community. I imagine the soccer courts in the Paris suburbs where so many of the French National soccer team grew up playing don't have age groups with kids and parents gaming the system. I imagine that a 8 year old could play against a 15 year old there. The benefits of that would be the same as a Montessori school.

When I was 12 years old I was playing hoops with 18 year olds. By the time I was 14, I was playing with adults. This is how you improve. I have never understood playing down and have really never understood why lacrosse coaches see value in a 17 year old playing against 15 year olds. Call me crazy.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:41 pm When I was 12 years old I was playing hoops with 18 year olds. By the time I was 14, I was playing with adults. This is how you improve. I have never understood playing down and have really never understood why lacrosse coaches see value in a 17 year old playing against 15 year olds. Call me crazy.

Am sure there's a lot of the same but I had an older brother (13 mo) who was a really good athlete. We were close and always hung out together. This put me on ballfields/courts playing against guys a year or two older (and we played a lot of ball). Most of them weren't better than I was but that size and strength difference is a huge advantage when you're the bigger guy. Pays dividends for the smaller guy in the long run for sure (JFTR, none of them beat me in ping pong which really pissed 'em off...love that lefty advantage). Playing down is bullschidt...the big fish in a little pond.
DMac on the ping pong table....that's some stiff competition there, brotha.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:09 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:13 pm

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

Damn, we've come a long way, baby. Thanks.
This discussion isn't going away anytime soon.
Have put my favorite tranny story on here a couple of times. Am at my friend's son's house and there's a gal out there taking a tree down. Tight spot between houses, needed ropes and ladder to take it down a branch at a time, and this gal knew what she was doing. Couldn't help but notice she was a little on the muscular side. Was beyond resistible for me to not go down and offer to help to get a little closer look. Helped with the rope a little and held the ladder. Turns out the she was a longshoreman, had a nice chat and I'm glad I went down for the closer look. Saw her a year or so later at a Chinese buffet, said hello and reminded her of our prior meeting. Was all good.
I don't care about trannies and sexual preferences, everyone is fair game with me...it's all good. When that tranny steps on a ballfield with the girls I fully understand the reaction it's going to bring though.

... reminds me of Linda Johnson, a friend / acquaintance from elementary school. Linda came to my attention in 3rd grade. She was a tomboy. Linda was very good in all sports. Easily competed with the boys in her grade level and a number of grades above. When I met Linda, she already had breasts, they were developed enough to be noticed. We (the boys in her class) always wanted her on our team. Always one of the first picks in a school yard sporting contest. The average athletic boy didn't catch up with her until high school. My high school sport teams were nothing to write home about. The girls high school teams, the ones Linda played on were always at the top of the standings, winning a number of championships. Linda was a very average student when I knew her.

There is a very large degree of physical (and mental) variance in both boys and girls growing up through high school. In the youngest age groups the girls are generally ahead in development.

When do you see this change?

DMac wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:19 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:41 pm When I was 12 years old I was playing hoops with 18 year olds. By the time I was 14, I was playing with adults. This is how you improve. I have never understood playing down and have really never understood why lacrosse coaches see value in a 17 year old playing against 15 year olds. Call me crazy.

Am sure there's a lot of the same but I had an older brother (13 mo) who was a really good athlete. We were close and always hung out together. This put me on ballfields/courts playing against guys a year or two older (and we played a lot of ball). Most of them weren't better than I was but that size and strength difference is a huge advantage when you're the bigger guy. Pays dividends for the smaller guy in the long run for sure (JFTR, none of them beat me in ping pong which really ticked 'em off...love that lefty advantage). Playing down is bullschidt...the big fish in a little pond.
DMac on the ping pong table....that's some stiff competition there, brotha.

Nice!! That made my day!!

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:16 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:02 pm ... maybe there is a problem (a big one in my opinion) with how we organize our sports teams. Take a lesson from auto racing / horse racing. Age based / gender based "sport classes" is the only reason we are having either of these discussions. This is again tied to how we view the goal of sports.

I think this would be a very interesting conversation to have. Maybe Americans focus on the competitive lessons sports teach to athletes and we value the competition because our culture puts so much emphasis on the individual. In other countries around the world, maybe the importance of sports is different. Maybe it's more about the good of the collective/community. I imagine the soccer courts in the Paris suburbs where so many of the French National soccer team grew up playing don't have age groups with kids and parents gaming the system. I imagine that a 8 year old could play against a 15 year old there. The benefits of that would be the same as a Montessori school.

I don't have any idea how the French handle "youth" soccer. I do think the concept of using age as a proxy for "fair competition" as we do is anything but. Same for gender, as my Linda Johnson example illustrates. The concept of using "school class" as we do for high school teams creates an unfair competition, easily gamed, for spots on the team. We also have a problem with the concept of the "goal of playing a sport", the lesson it teaches, etc. There is more than a little hypocrisy attached to that discussion.

I think educational system based athletics have failed us as a society. We have tried to correct those with Title IX, which has made even more problems -- transexual sports, etc. I would suggest the simplest solution is to revamp all educational system based sports. Make them co-ed in all cases and unlimited in participation -- ie., the recreational model -- if you wish to participate, you are on the team, regardless of skill / ability.

Separate all single sex teams from educational institutions, make those separate club teams, not funded by the educational institutions. Goes for high school and college / university. These teams will have to become self-sustaining.

This also lowers costs for the educational institutions and generally lowers tuition for students. The educational institutions as corporations of course should be allowed to invest in club teams, part of their endowment, but the club teams have to be money making for profit entities.

I think this makes a lot more sense than what we do today.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:20 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:09 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:13 pm

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:57 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm I don't think I mention it a lot. I get involved in the discussion once in awhile.

You mention it a lot because when it does pop up in the news you post stuff. Again and again.

DMac is allowed to post his views on this. It looks like he's been very respectful in this thread, which is more than I can say of many other posters in a lot of threads. There have been things in the past that I haven't agreed with DMac on, but if he's respectful he shouldn't feel pressured to stop posting about anything.

Damn, we've come a long way, baby. Thanks.
This discussion isn't going away anytime soon.
Have put my favorite tranny story on here a couple of times. Am at my friend's son's house and there's a gal out there taking a tree down. Tight spot between houses, needed ropes and ladder to take it down a branch at a time, and this gal knew what she was doing. Couldn't help but notice she was a little on the muscular side. Was beyond resistible for me to not go down and offer to help to get a little closer look. Helped with the rope a little and held the ladder. Turns out the she was a longshoreman, had a nice chat and I'm glad I went down for the closer look. Saw her a year or so later at a Chinese buffet, said hello and reminded her of our prior meeting. Was all good.
I don't care about trannies and sexual preferences, everyone is fair game with me...it's all good. When that tranny steps on a ballfield with the girls I fully understand the reaction it's going to bring though.

... reminds me of Linda Johnson, a friend / acquaintance from elementary school. Linda came to my attention in 3rd grade. She was a tomboy. Linda was very good in all sports. Easily competed with the boys in her grade level and a number of grades above. When I met Linda, she already had breasts, they were developed enough to be noticed. We (the boys in her class) always wanted her on our team. Always one of the first picks in a school yard sporting contest. The average athletic boy didn't catch up with her until high school. My high school sport teams were nothing to write home about. The girls high school teams, the ones Linda played on were always at the top of the standings, winning a number of championships. Linda was a very average student when I knew her.

There is a very large degree of physical (and mental) variance in both boys and girls growing up through high school. In the youngest age groups the girls are generally ahead in development.

When do you see this change?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:41 pm

ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:16 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:02 pm ... maybe there is a problem (a big one in my opinion) with how we organize our sports teams. Take a lesson from auto racing / horse racing. Age based / gender based "sport classes" is the only reason we are having either of these discussions. This is again tied to how we view the goal of sports.

I think this would be a very interesting conversation to have. Maybe Americans focus on the competitive lessons sports teach to athletes and we value the competition because our culture puts so much emphasis on the individual. In other countries around the world, maybe the importance of sports is different. Maybe it's more about the good of the collective/community. I imagine the soccer courts in the Paris suburbs where so many of the French National soccer team grew up playing don't have age groups with kids and parents gaming the system. I imagine that a 8 year old could play against a 15 year old there. The benefits of that would be the same as a Montessori school.

When I was 12 years old I was playing hoops with 18 year olds. By the time I was 14, I was playing with adults. This is how you improve. I have never understood playing down and have really never understood why lacrosse coaches see value in a 17 year old playing against 15 year olds. Call me crazy.

There's a summer lax pickup league for HS kids but adults can play, only caveat is needing to be US Lacrosse member (insurance) but when I asked if my son could run with them they said no. Kinda bummed but I may take him and play and shove him down their throats - we will see. He really wants to play with anyone, but especially bigger older people. (they also found in OT and related when he was in childcare he has modest sensory "deficiency/deprivation", forget the exact term but it was mild but also that he sort of craves physicality, we had these rubber chew toy type necklaces he took into his first two years of school pre covid, got into it a little with 1st grade teacher who never said it was a actual problem in class but violated some obtuse rule to which I dropped the "violate my kids health needs" approach and she backed down fast)

DMac wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:19 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:41 pm When I was 12 years old I was playing hoops with 18 year olds. By the time I was 14, I was playing with adults. This is how you improve. I have never understood playing down and have really never understood why lacrosse coaches see value in a 17 year old playing against 15 year olds. Call me crazy.

Am sure there's a lot of the same but I had an older brother (13 mo) who was a really good athlete. We were close and always hung out together. This put me on ballfields/courts playing against guys a year or two older (and we played a lot of ball). Most of them weren't better than I was but that size and strength difference is a huge advantage when you're the bigger guy. Pays dividends for the smaller guy in the long run for sure (JFTR, none of them beat me in ping pong which really ticked 'em off...love that lefty advantage). Playing down is bullschidt...the big fish in a little pond.
DMac on the ping pong table....that's some stiff competition there, brotha.

Why do your arms look so small? My dad had the same haircut for wayyy too long, the wake up and swirl it over the head, and the stache until 1990.