Drcthru wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:22 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:12 am
OCanada wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:46 am
MDLax
It’s the perception it requires greater effort than it does at other indtitutions. At least that is what several first teamers offered as to why they chose an Ivy or ACC school. For them it was not a matter of staying in it was a matter of having to work harder on top of playing
Interesting. It's not at all an accurate perception re the Ivies.
But it is, as to ACC schools.
On the Epstein benching, I don't think a "stern talking to" nor benching is the way to handle most highly competitive players. Any doubt as to whether the player himself doesn't know when he's made a bad play? Series of bad plays? Better to pull him over, calm him down, suggest some positive ways to re-approach the contest, then get him back into the action. Yelling at or punishing a top player rarely motivates their top performance.
Now if you actually have an attitude problem with a player, he shouldn't be on the field in the first place. I doubt that's the case in this instance.
Maybe it is an accurate perception of the Ivies.
https://ripplematch.com/journal/article ... -4f4b544d/
Ok, good example perhaps of not going to stats class. Or maybe not Applied Stats.
GPA as a measure of how easy it is to 'survive' at a particular college, for a given athlete.
hmmm, what could get missed?
How about taking into account the relative capabilities of one's fellow students in the classes one takes?
Would that matter? yup...
What would some proxies be?
Perhaps SAT/AP levels? # of applicants and acceptance rates?
I think you'd see a pretty sizable difference in the SAT/AP levels in most of those schools at the top of that list and Hopkins, though perhaps less so in some of STEM, though that's not what we see in most of the lax players at any of these schools.
But a lot higher levels for the non-STEM admits. And, it can't really be underestimated how the raw testing scores don't tell the whole story. The Ivies I'm most familiar with, HYP and D, reject a whole class of applicants with scores as high or higher than those they admit. An awful lot of perfect SAT's rejected.
What they're looking for is demonstration of special passions above and beyond; in all sorts of ways.
When my son entered Economics at one of those Ivies, he assumed he was pretty darn well prepared. Strong, motivated student, excellent SAT and AP scores, etc. Academic awards at arguably the toughest prep school in Baltimore. But Econ at that Ivy was full of kids with
perfect SAT's, multiple math camp summers, multiple years of higher level calc, and having already taken Econ at their prep schools. Way ahead out of the chute, especially as that Econ Dept is so heavy on math. So, they throw an immense workload at them. And most of these students didn't have a 25+ hr a week athletic commitment year round.
I've been in the Econ classes at Hopkins. No comparison. That doesn't mean that Hopkins classes are a breeze, or that the students aren't smart, but the expectations and workload just aren't the same.
Brown is sort of its own thing, with their very different grading system and no requirements. Kids can create their own majors and if you're trying to skate through, it's indeed possible. Most Brown students, however, are super motivated, so be careful not to think they actually have an easy academic path. But, yeah, if you're not a highly motivated student, it may be easier to survive there.
Cornell has some paths for survival given a broader spectrum of overall students, but is notoriously challenging for those who are serious students. I'd think Penn would be pretty similar to HYPD, though the HYP phenomenon is indeed in it's own sector.