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faircornell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:31 pm 7-0 OOC! Wow. The fight for an ILT place will be challenging.

Brown and Princeton look much better than the early season predictions suggested. Yale seems to still be finding it's feet. Cornell and Penn are strong as generally predicted. Harvard seems reinvigorated. Dartmouth is improving.

Andy Shay seems to have a talent for getting his teams to peak around Ivy Tournament time. It'll be a greater challenge than usual to get in.

CU77 wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 1:57 pm I sure hope there are no QuACkers for Cornell/OSU!

Though I highly recommend Barry and Tom on WHCU. Usually behind the broadcast by a minute or so, so you have to make an effort to sync them up by pausing the video.

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 6:43 pm Just to add salt to the wounds, FOY in his final Top20 has Notre Dame 4th.

Wow, Notre Dame out has just about rendered the entire Lax community of journalists into a bunch of blithering, bunch of infants who need to hide under Mama's skirt.

Can these idiots embarrass themselves anymore than they already have?

GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 6:43 pm Just to add salt to the wounds, FOY in his final Top20 has Notre Dame 4th.

Wow, Notre Dame out has just about rendered the entire Lax community of journalists into a bunch of blithering, bunch of infants who need to hide under Mama's skirt.

Can these idiots embarrass themselves anymore than they already have?

GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 7:03 pm Terry Foy’s Top 20 article is actually very reasonable. He’s echoing the same things we as Ivy fans are saying at the beginning of his article. In fact, he sounds like the anti-QAC until he gets to the Notre Dame ranking. Frankly I don’t have a huge issue with his ranking them where he does - it’s his opinion, he’s entitled to it, and it’s his column.

What I have noticed with Foy is his initial takes or reactions are highly influenced by others. When Quint tweeted the whole “Ivy is 11-1 in 1-goal games” statement, Foy immediately made a big deal of it in his subsequent Bracketology. Of course FanLax went nuts. Then a couple of days later he tempered his stance significantly, saying the Ivies were all deserving of their rankings (Quint did too actually). Same thing happened after the selection show - Foy was back to acting a fool, I think due to getting caught up in the moment, and losing his objectivity. I think QAC (Anish in particular) heavily influenced him. His last top 20 article shows he’s capable of deeper and more reasoned analysis… but the initial reaction is not a good look.

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:07 pm

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 7:03 pm Terry Foy’s Top 20 article is actually very reasonable. He’s echoing the same things we as Ivy fans are saying at the beginning of his article. In fact, he sounds like the anti-QAC until he gets to the Notre Dame ranking. Frankly I don’t have a huge issue with his ranking them where he does - it’s his opinion, he’s entitled to it, and it’s his column.

What I have noticed with Foy is his initial takes or reactions are highly influenced by others. When Quint tweeted the whole “Ivy is 11-1 in 1-goal games” statement, Foy immediately made a big deal of it in his subsequent Bracketology. Of course FanLax went nuts. Then a couple of days later he tempered his stance significantly, saying the Ivies were all deserving of their rankings (Quint did too actually). Same thing happened after the selection show - Foy was back to acting a fool, I think due to getting caught up in the moment, and losing his objectivity. I think QAC (Anish in particular) heavily influenced him. His last top 20 article shows he’s capable of deeper and more reasoned analysis… but the initial reaction is not a good look.

You don't think that his ranking of a team NOT in the Dance was just his way to stick it to:
1. Woodruff and her committee
2. The IVY League
3. The FANS of Ivy League teams

I would have been a little more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, if he had ranked the Irish, say 10th, but to rank them as the 4th BEST TEAM in the Nation sure appears to be his way to take another gratuitous shot at the above list.

I guess I'm less forgiving than you MT.
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Joewillie78

B. The data was (and will remain, as long as the current process is in place) fungible enough that Notre Dame’s exclusion didn’t shock me.

F. The reason the bad process hasn’t elicited the reaction in prior years that it has this year is not because the snubs were less egregious (except, again, in Duke’s case, but far fewer people are rending their garments for the Blue Devils), it’s because the teams being victimized were the ones that are supposed to be victimized.

I feel like the Joker making this point. “Nobody panics when things go 'according to plan' ...even if the plan is horrfying. If tomorrow I told #LaxTwittter that, like, No. 11 RPI Bucknell gets snubbed, or Hopkins gets in over a Rutgers team that beat them twice, nobody panics, because it's all part of the plan. But when I say that one little old Notre Dame gets snubbed… [voice rises hysterically] well, then everyone loses their minds!”

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:18 pm

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:07 pm

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 7:03 pm Terry Foy’s Top 20 article is actually very reasonable. He’s echoing the same things we as Ivy fans are saying at the beginning of his article. In fact, he sounds like the anti-QAC until he gets to the Notre Dame ranking. Frankly I don’t have a huge issue with his ranking them where he does - it’s his opinion, he’s entitled to it, and it’s his column.

What I have noticed with Foy is his initial takes or reactions are highly influenced by others. When Quint tweeted the whole “Ivy is 11-1 in 1-goal games” statement, Foy immediately made a big deal of it in his subsequent Bracketology. Of course FanLax went nuts. Then a couple of days later he tempered his stance significantly, saying the Ivies were all deserving of their rankings (Quint did too actually). Same thing happened after the selection show - Foy was back to acting a fool, I think due to getting caught up in the moment, and losing his objectivity. I think QAC (Anish in particular) heavily influenced him. His last top 20 article shows he’s capable of deeper and more reasoned analysis… but the initial reaction is not a good look.

You don't think that his ranking of a team NOT in the Dance was just his way to stick it to:
1. Woodruff and her committee
2. The IVY League
3. The FANS of Ivy League teams

I would have been a little more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, if he had ranked the Irish, say 10th, but to rank them as the 4th BEST TEAM in the Nation sure appears to be his way to take another gratuitous shot at the above list.

I guess I'm less forgiving than you MT.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

It might be stubborness, for sure. But it is consistent. He ranked them 4th last week, and they won. If you haven’t read the article before the ranking, really recommend you do. A couple of excerpts:

B. The data was (and will remain, as long as the current process is in place) fungible enough that Notre Dame’s exclusion didn’t shock me.

F. The reason the bad process hasn’t elicited the reaction in prior years that it has this year is not because the snubs were less egregious (except, again, in Duke’s case, but far fewer people are rending their garments for the Blue Devils), it’s because the teams being victimized were the ones that are supposed to be victimized.

I feel like the Joker making this point. “Nobody panics when things go 'according to plan' ...even if the plan is horrfying. If tomorrow I told #LaxTwittter that, like, No. 11 RPI Bucknell gets snubbed, or Hopkins gets in over a Rutgers team that beat them twice, nobody panics, because it's all part of the plan. But when I say that one little old Notre Dame gets snubbed… [voice rises hysterically] well, then everyone loses their minds!”

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 6:43 pm Just to add salt to the wounds, FOY in his final Top20 has Notre Dame 4th.

Wow, Notre Dame out has just about rendered the entire Lax community of journalists into a bunch of blithering, bunch of infants who need to hide under Mama's skirt.

Can these idiots embarrass themselves anymore than they already have?

GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

44WeWantMore wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 9:40 pm To be fair, the Irish are number 3 both in Massey and Power Rankings.

ICGrad wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 11:56 pm

44WeWantMore wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 9:40 pm To be fair, the Irish are number 3 both in Massey and Power Rankings.

Any time I become afraid that machine learning has hit a tipping point and computers are about to take over, I'll revisit these two links to remind myself that computers are still every bit as stupid as humans.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 5:47 pm

ICGrad wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 11:56 pm

44WeWantMore wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 9:40 pm To be fair, the Irish are number 3 both in Massey and Power Rankings.

Any time I become afraid that machine learning has hit a tipping point and computers are about to take over, I'll revisit these two links to remind myself that computers are still every bit as stupid as humans.

They’re just human error distillate…