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Lax101 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:32 pm I say definitely not. The NCAA basically replaced the Focus year are gave everyone a do-over. That being the case why should it count? Absent a redshirt, you get 4 years to compete, not 4.4 years.

njbill wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:56 pm Since you mentioned DCs, I thought I'd look at Maddie Jenner's numbers.

She currently has 543, with the remainder of this season and a potential fifth year still to go. Seems very likely she'll reach 645 if she plays next year.

wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:44 pm

Lax101 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:32 pm I say definitely not. The NCAA basically replaced the Focus year are gave everyone a do-over. That being the case why should it count? Absent a redshirt, you get 4 years to compete, not 4.4 years.

The statistics an athlete accumulates during a season before receiving a medical redshirt count, so why shouldn't these? It's pretty much the same concept. Even without medical redshirts and COVID years the # of games in a players career can still vary greatly.

Kylie Ohlmiller currently has the record for career points with 498 in 4 years and 84 games, no redshirts.

- Hoeg wasn't even close to that after finishing her COVID extra year with 370 points in 89 games
- Ortega currently sits at 412 points in 80 games & potentially 10 more games max (assuming they make it to the ACC championship game & get a 1st round bye and make it to NC game)
- North currently sits at 367 points in 72 games & potentially 11 more games max (assuming they make it to the ACC championship game & get a 1st round bye and make it to NC game)

Both North and Ortega would have to put up some serious numbers to even sniff KO's record. Ortega needs to average about 8.5 ppg (she currently averages about 5.4 ppg) and North would need to average 11.9 ppg (she currently averages 5.75).

Also, notice the difference in the # of career games between Ortega and North (80 & 72). This is because Duke failed to make the NCAA tournament in 2018 & 2019. So my point, in all of this rambling, is that disparities of as much as 8 games (or more) happen organically without the COVID year. And Kylie Ohlmiller's normal, 4-year, 84 game NCAA career is actually going to be longer than Charlotte North's career with the COVID year and a max of 83 games.

One more just for fun:
Jessica Karwacki holds the career DC record with 645 in 66 games. She played for Robert Morris University who never made it farther than their conference tournament semi-final. There are teams with players who will finish (and have finished) their careers with 20+ more games and still not come close to this record (edit: but Maddie Jenner is currently in hot pursuit).
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It’s no coincidence 2 players in top 4 all time points played in same division and a weak conf at that . Blowing out teams and playing every minute…teams you play and if you play whole game also come into consideration in total points (not a Covid/games played issue but just saying).
Also I think your points count with North is incorrect . Her stats bio is incorrect I believe .

Laxfan500 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:15 am

wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:44 pm

Lax101 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:32 pm I say definitely not. The NCAA basically replaced the Focus year are gave everyone a do-over. That being the case why should it count? Absent a redshirt, you get 4 years to compete, not 4.4 years.

The statistics an athlete accumulates during a season before receiving a medical redshirt count, so why shouldn't these? It's pretty much the same concept. Even without medical redshirts and COVID years the # of games in a players career can still vary greatly.

Kylie Ohlmiller currently has the record for career points with 498 in 4 years and 84 games, no redshirts.

- Hoeg wasn't even close to that after finishing her COVID extra year with 370 points in 89 games
- Ortega currently sits at 412 points in 80 games & potentially 10 more games max (assuming they make it to the ACC championship game & get a 1st round bye and make it to NC game)
- North currently sits at 367 points in 72 games & potentially 11 more games max (assuming they make it to the ACC championship game & get a 1st round bye and make it to NC game)

Both North and Ortega would have to put up some serious numbers to even sniff KO's record. Ortega needs to average about 8.5 ppg (she currently averages about 5.4 ppg) and North would need to average 11.9 ppg (she currently averages 5.75).

Also, notice the difference in the # of career games between Ortega and North (80 & 72). This is because Duke failed to make the NCAA tournament in 2018 & 2019. So my point, in all of this rambling, is that disparities of as much as 8 games (or more) happen organically without the COVID year. And Kylie Ohlmiller's normal, 4-year, 84 game NCAA career is actually going to be longer than Charlotte North's career with the COVID year and a max of 83 games.

One more just for fun:
Jessica Karwacki holds the career DC record with 645 in 66 games. She played for Robert Morris University who never made it farther than their conference tournament semi-final. There are teams with players who will finish (and have finished) their careers with 20+ more games and still not come close to this record (edit: but Maddie Jenner is currently in hot pursuit).

It’s no coincidence 2 players in top 4 all time points played in same division and a weak conf at that . Blowing out teams and playing every minute…teams you play and if you play whole game also come into consideration in total points (not a Covid/games played issue but just saying).
Also I think your points count with North is incorrect . Her stats bio is incorrect I believe .

DMac wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:46 pmSounds juicy.

DMac wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:46 pmSounds juicy.

hmmm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:40 pm Word tonight is Drexel has fired their HC. Also that she was escorted off the field during practice. Sure the the story will come out soon

LarryGamLax wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:25 pm

hmmm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:40 pm Word tonight is Drexel has fired their HC. Also that she was escorted off the field during practice. Sure the the story will come out soon

I don't know where you obtained this information from, but I'm upset reading this. I had a friend text me and ask if I had heard about this. I had not.

Kim is a terrific long time friend. Someone I respect and care about. I have to hope to all that is good that none of what you said is true. I have to believe that.

hmmm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:40 pm Word tonight is Drexel has fired their HC. Also that she was escorted off the field during practice. Sure the the story will come out soon

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:21 am Twitter and Instagram accounts status quo, still listed as coach on Drexel website. Nothing recent for news in a Google search. All checked before posting. This was the last activity on Hillier's Twitter account. We'll find out for sure tomorrow afternoon as the Drexel at Towson game at 2pm will be broadcast on the LSN network.

hmmm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:40 pm Word tonight is Drexel has fired their HC. Also that she was escorted off the field during practice. Sure the the story will come out soon

laxlaxlax wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:01 pm

hmmm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:40 pm Word tonight is Drexel has fired their HC. Also that she was escorted off the field during practice. Sure the the story will come out soon

Escorted off the field seems a little aggressive if this is true.

For a coach to be abruptly fired before practice, yes. To be abruptly fired after practice, yes - but to be escorted out mid-practice seems so bizarre if true. I can’t begin to imagine what would cause any administrator to do that in front of players.