Re: Coaching Carousel 2024
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 10:47 pm
Xavier coach brought her husband on as an assistant with no lacrosse experience. Terrible coach, no people skills and little support from school doesn’t make for a good program.
Xavier coach brought her husband on as an assistant with no lacrosse experience. Terrible coach, no people skills and little support from school doesn’t make for a good program.
laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 10:47 pmXavier coach brought her husband on as an assistant with no lacrosse experience. Terrible coach, no people skills and little support from school doesn’t make for a good program.
LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 pmlaxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 10:47 pmXavier coach brought her husband on as an assistant with no lacrosse experience. Terrible coach, no people skills and little support from school doesn’t make for a good program.
Are you sure this is how you want to describe Matt Zink and Meg Decker? Maybe the guy is doing the best he can while dealing with the side effects of trial treatments for his cancer? Find someone else to pick on.
https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... meg-decker
My niece plays at Butler, admittedly a mid-lower D1 school. I went to the Butler/Xavier game and clearly something was off on Xavier.laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:23 pm I am not picking on him. I am just saying what parents of players have said. Having two of the same voice is not always good. Look at their record and the talk of people leaving. She is the problem not him.
I agree that the game grew faster than coaches were developed. Take a look at other sports, where do you see so many players jump from playing one year earlier and are now coaching college teams with women who are basically the same age. It does not happen in other sports and it does not happen in business. Do you think any real business would bring in a brand new kid right out of college and throw them into a leadership role with ZERO training? That is what is happening in women's lacrosse.Timtebow wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 10:03 am Maybe the game grew faster than it could develop decent coaches. Xavier, Old Dominion, and others seem to have coaches in place that may know the game, but are woefully unprepared to lead groups of student athletes. You can be a good college coach just by recruiting and treating your players well so they perform at their best.
The logical pipeline of coaches will be former college players, but being a former All-American does not automatically make you a good coach. Many great former players just used their amazing athleticism without having to learn the finer points of the game. I would have done the same if I could just run by most of the completion, not the case for all, but many. I think there a many poor coaches at the DI level. I watch countless games questioning the lack of an offensive scheme. IMHO the influx of more great athletes are why the scoring numbers are much lower between high level teams. The rules favor the offense, but it's easier to coach a defense of 7 women around the 8 meter circle to stop a team trying to "out athlete" the defense. UNC will be very interesting to watch next year because it is stacked with offensive weapons, but I feel they are a prime example of an offense that just tries to run great athletes through a defense. CH is an amazing passer and may help the offensive scheme, time will tell.Brownlax wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:19 pmI agree that the game grew faster than coaches were developed. Take a look at other sports, where do you see so many players jump from playing one year earlier and are now coaching college teams with women who are basically the same age. It does not happen in other sports and it does not happen in business. Do you think any real business would bring in a brand new kid right out of college and throw them into a leadership role with ZERO training? That is what is happening in women's lacrosse.Timtebow wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 10:03 am Maybe the game grew faster than it could develop decent coaches. Xavier, Old Dominion, and others seem to have coaches in place that may know the game, but are woefully unprepared to lead groups of student athletes. You can be a good college coach just by recruiting and treating your players well so they perform at their best.
My issue with this is training, developing people skills, management skills and leadership. If AD's are going to allow these coaches to be hired then they should be responsible for developing these coaches.
Correct. Asst Coaches aren't moving to Cincinnati or Indianapolis for a marginal raise from what they earn at a top program.flushlax77 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 4:27 pm I think pay is major issue. Why hasn’t some of the top associate head coaches and assistant coaches jumped at some of these midmajors? The pay is better as an assistant than it is as a head coach at the majority of these schools.
She is a very charismatic recruiter and had parents drinking the Kool-Aid at a recruiting weekend a couple years ago. Everyone loved her.laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:23 pm I am not picking on him. I am just saying what parents of players have said. Having two of the same voice is not always good. Look at their record and the talk of people leaving. She is the problem not him.
It's very unfortunate that he's battled cancer for so long, but being married to the head coach doesn't magically qualify him to coach division 1 lacrosse. He has zero experience as either a player or a coach.LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 pmlaxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 10:47 pmXavier coach brought her husband on as an assistant with no lacrosse experience. Terrible coach, no people skills and little support from school doesn’t make for a good program.
Are you sure this is how you want to describe Matt Zink and Meg Decker? Maybe the guy is doing the best he can while dealing with the side effects of trial treatments for his cancer? Find someone else to pick on.
https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... meg-decker
I never said his cancer diagnosis or his marriage to coach. Decker qualifies him to be a coach at Xavier. To be clear: if you have a problem with him coaching there, your problem is actually with the Xavier athletic department and human resources office. Why would they allow a person with no coaching or playing experience to be hired for that role? Nonetheless, I just felt like the guy had been battling for his life the past handful of years and perhaps we could aim the criticism somewhere else. It certainly sounds like Coach Decker herself has earned plenty of opportunity for criticism. But to each their own.NutmegCrunch wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:53 amIt's very unfortunate that he's battled cancer for so long, but being married to the head coach doesn't magically qualify him to coach division 1 lacrosse. He has zero experience as either a player or a coach.LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 pmlaxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 10:47 pmXavier coach brought her husband on as an assistant with no lacrosse experience. Terrible coach, no people skills and little support from school doesn’t make for a good program.
Are you sure this is how you want to describe Matt Zink and Meg Decker? Maybe the guy is doing the best he can while dealing with the side effects of trial treatments for his cancer? Find someone else to pick on.
https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/co ... meg-decker
Decker's record at Hartford was abysmal, even for a new program. I heard through an acquaintance whose daughter played for her there that she was a Jekyll & Hyde type - she had a great pitch during recruiting but the reality was very different for a lot of girls once they got on campus.
Not a surprise because of UNH leadership of because of the coach herself?
I'm no insider at UNH, but this seems like it was a substandard hire in the first instance, by an athletic administration that invests in football and ice hockey and appears to keep women's sports around because of Title IX balancing.laxlaxlax wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 8:03 pmNot a surprise because of UNH leadership of because of the coach herself?
14-30 total record but only 2-12 this year and 0-6 in conference play. Ugh that’s tough.
Headed to one of these openings? William & Mary?