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foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:48 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:19 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:16 pm Like Miranda, you dodge the question about who we'll be fighting in the coming WW III which Trump starts & his successor will have to finish ?
If Trump's not re-elected, his (D) successor can slide right back into the JCPOA & collect his/her Nobel Peace Prize.
We're no closer to conflict with N Korea than we were 3 years ago. At least we're still talking rather than testing.
That would be your opinion...unless you have some factual links.
As is all original content in this discussion forum, get over it. Still no nucs or ICBMs tested.
That is a bull cookie as well...you make the statement like it's fact.
When's the last time N Korea tested a nuc or ICBM ?

Trump's doing more to help Ukraine than the entire EU combined, while garrisoning E Europe on NATO's behalf,
That has been proven to be inaccurate. They have given more money than the US.
Yeah. It's all in oligarch's offshore bank accounts in Cyprus. It's harder to launder Javelins & sniper rifles.
More opinion....it's impossible to eat a sniper rifle.
...& it's impossible to defend yourself against Russian arms without specific weapons. We're the only ones providing those weapons. Obama wouldn't even do it & Dr Fiona Hill wrote an OpEd praising him for not doing so.
You're fuzzing lethal military aid with loan guarantees.

as Vlad packs his golden parachute. Maybe he & Trump will start a joint venture when they both leave office in 2024.
China's got their hands full with Hong Kong, retraining millions of their restive Muslim citizens & closing cities to contain their latest pandemic.
The CIA's bio-op to infect snakes & bats is working.

Last time they tested a nuc was 9/3/17
Last time they tested an ICBM was 7/4/17
IF that is your measurement, things HAVE gotten worse since Trump took office...How are the negotiations for a nuclear free NK is going?
We may be the only ones providing lethal aid....but that isn't what you said.

No they haven't. They were testing nucs & ICBMs before Trump took office.
That was 18 mos ago, in the early months of the Trump Admin, a continuation of previous escalations.
That was before a massive show of US force, the ensuing summits & ongoing negotiations.

Lethal military aid is what the entire Ukrainian issue is about. What good are loan guarantees if nobody will sell you the weapons you need & the money is stolen by oligarchs.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:09 pm From Twitter:

Erin satanic pregnancy Ryan
@morninggloria
Looking like an all girls middle school cafeteria flasher; on brand

EPTdcqbWoAE_zND.jpg

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:06 pm Each Dem candidate has a major weakness(es). The absolute only way they win is through impeachment.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:06 pmRepublicans learned their lessons;' Dems rarely act in good faith on legislation any longer; the end game is always the same, more government.

njbill wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:22 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:09 pm From Twitter:

Erin satanic pregnancy Ryan
@morninggloria
Looking like an all girls middle school cafeteria flasher; on brand

EPTdcqbWoAE_zND.jpg

Whoever dressed Ken Starr this morning might have counseled him not to wear a black hat. Not a good look when he is defending someone he claims to be innocent.”

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:21 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:48 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:19 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:16 pm Like Miranda, you dodge the question about who we'll be fighting in the coming WW III which Trump starts & his successor will have to finish ?
If Trump's not re-elected, his (D) successor can slide right back into the JCPOA & collect his/her Nobel Peace Prize.
We're no closer to conflict with N Korea than we were 3 years ago. At least we're still talking rather than testing.
That would be your opinion...unless you have some factual links.
As is all original content in this discussion forum, get over it. Still no nucs or ICBMs tested.
That is a bull cookie as well...you make the statement like it's fact.
When's the last time N Korea tested a nuc or ICBM ?

Trump's doing more to help Ukraine than the entire EU combined, while garrisoning E Europe on NATO's behalf,
That has been proven to be inaccurate. They have given more money than the US.
Yeah. It's all in oligarch's offshore bank accounts in Cyprus. It's harder to launder Javelins & sniper rifles.
More opinion....it's impossible to eat a sniper rifle.
...& it's impossible to defend yourself against Russian arms without specific weapons. We're the only ones providing those weapons. Obama wouldn't even do it & Dr Fiona Hill wrote an OpEd praising him for not doing so.
You're fuzzing lethal military aid with loan guarantees.

as Vlad packs his golden parachute. Maybe he & Trump will start a joint venture when they both leave office in 2024.
China's got their hands full with Hong Kong, retraining millions of their restive Muslim citizens & closing cities to contain their latest pandemic.
The CIA's bio-op to infect snakes & bats is working.

Last time they tested a nuc was 9/3/17
Last time they tested an ICBM was 7/4/17
IF that is your measurement, things HAVE gotten worse since Trump took office...How are the negotiations for a nuclear free NK is going?
We may be the only ones providing lethal aid....but that isn't what you said.

No they haven't. They were testing nucs & ICBMs before Trump took office.
That was 18 mos ago, in the early months of the Trump Admin, a continuation of previous escalations.
That was before a massive show of US force, the ensuing summits & ongoing negotiations.

Lethal military aid is what the entire Ukrainian issue is about. What good are loan guarantees if nobody will sell you the weapons you need & the money is stolen by oligarchs.

The dates I provide came from Wiki....you can debate it with them. There are no ongoing summits or negotiations, NK made that clear.

Can we agree that the EU has sent more aid to the Ukraine than the US...whether it be guns or butter?

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:38 pm Tweet of the Day so far

"It’s smart of John Bolton to hide evidence in a place where the president will never be able to find it - a book."

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:21 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:48 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:19 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:16 pm Like Miranda, you dodge the question about who we'll be fighting in the coming WW III which Trump starts & his successor will have to finish ?
If Trump's not re-elected, his (D) successor can slide right back into the JCPOA & collect his/her Nobel Peace Prize.
We're no closer to conflict with N Korea than we were 3 years ago. At least we're still talking rather than testing.
That would be your opinion...unless you have some factual links.
As is all original content in this discussion forum, get over it. Still no nucs or ICBMs tested.
That is a bull cookie as well...you make the statement like it's fact.
When's the last time N Korea tested a nuc or ICBM ?

Trump's doing more to help Ukraine than the entire EU combined, while garrisoning E Europe on NATO's behalf,
That has been proven to be inaccurate. They have given more money than the US.
Yeah. It's all in oligarch's offshore bank accounts in Cyprus. It's harder to launder Javelins & sniper rifles.
More opinion....it's impossible to eat a sniper rifle.
...& it's impossible to defend yourself against Russian arms without specific weapons. We're the only ones providing those weapons. Obama wouldn't even do it & Dr Fiona Hill wrote an OpEd praising him for not doing so.
You're fuzzing lethal military aid with loan guarantees.

as Vlad packs his golden parachute. Maybe he & Trump will start a joint venture when they both leave office in 2024.
China's got their hands full with Hong Kong, retraining millions of their restive Muslim citizens & closing cities to contain their latest pandemic.
The CIA's bio-op to infect snakes & bats is working.

Last time they tested a nuc was 9/3/17
Last time they tested an ICBM was 7/4/17
IF that is your measurement, things HAVE gotten worse since Trump took office...How are the negotiations for a nuclear free NK is going?
We may be the only ones providing lethal aid....but that isn't what you said.

No they haven't. They were testing nucs & ICBMs before Trump took office.
That was 18 mos ago, in the early months of the Trump Admin, a continuation of previous escalations.
That was before a massive show of US force, the ensuing summits & ongoing negotiations.

Lethal military aid is what the entire Ukrainian issue is about. What good are loan guarantees if nobody will sell you the weapons you need & the money is stolen by oligarchs.

The dates I provide came from Wiki....you can debate it with them. There are no ongoing summits or negotiations, NK made that clear.

Can we agree that the EU has sent more aid to the Ukraine than the US...whether it be guns or butter?

Yes. ...& any of it that was not obligated for specific purchases was vulnerable to corruption & diversion offshore.

That's the critical difference between financial aid & loan guarantees, like the one Biden threatened to hold up, & specific military aid for approved items, which were all non-leathal in nature, until Trump agreed to change US policy &, in so doing, confront Russia.

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:38 pm Tweet of the Day so far

"It’s smart of John Bolton to hide evidence in a place where the president will never be able to find it - a book."

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:57 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:21 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:48 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:19 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:16 pm Like Miranda, you dodge the question about who we'll be fighting in the coming WW III which Trump starts & his successor will have to finish ?
If Trump's not re-elected, his (D) successor can slide right back into the JCPOA & collect his/her Nobel Peace Prize.
We're no closer to conflict with N Korea than we were 3 years ago. At least we're still talking rather than testing.
That would be your opinion...unless you have some factual links.
As is all original content in this discussion forum, get over it. Still no nucs or ICBMs tested.
That is a bull cookie as well...you make the statement like it's fact.
When's the last time N Korea tested a nuc or ICBM ?

Trump's doing more to help Ukraine than the entire EU combined, while garrisoning E Europe on NATO's behalf,
That has been proven to be inaccurate. They have given more money than the US.
Yeah. It's all in oligarch's offshore bank accounts in Cyprus. It's harder to launder Javelins & sniper rifles.
More opinion....it's impossible to eat a sniper rifle.
...& it's impossible to defend yourself against Russian arms without specific weapons. We're the only ones providing those weapons. Obama wouldn't even do it & Dr Fiona Hill wrote an OpEd praising him for not doing so.
You're fuzzing lethal military aid with loan guarantees.

as Vlad packs his golden parachute. Maybe he & Trump will start a joint venture when they both leave office in 2024.
China's got their hands full with Hong Kong, retraining millions of their restive Muslim citizens & closing cities to contain their latest pandemic.
The CIA's bio-op to infect snakes & bats is working.

Last time they tested a nuc was 9/3/17
Last time they tested an ICBM was 7/4/17
IF that is your measurement, things HAVE gotten worse since Trump took office...How are the negotiations for a nuclear free NK is going?
We may be the only ones providing lethal aid....but that isn't what you said.

No they haven't. They were testing nucs & ICBMs before Trump took office.
That was 18 mos ago, in the early months of the Trump Admin, a continuation of previous escalations.
That was before a massive show of US force, the ensuing summits & ongoing negotiations.

Lethal military aid is what the entire Ukrainian issue is about. What good are loan guarantees if nobody will sell you the weapons you need & the money is stolen by oligarchs.

The dates I provide came from Wiki....you can debate it with them. There are no ongoing summits or negotiations, NK made that clear.

Can we agree that the EU has sent more aid to the Ukraine than the US...whether it be guns or butter?

Yes. ...& any of it that was not obligated for specific purchases was vulnerable to corruption & diversion offshore.

That's the critical difference between financial aid & loan guarantees, like the one Biden threatened to hold up, & specific military aid for approved items, which were all non-leathal in nature, until Trump agreed to change US policy &, in so doing, confront Russia.

Can we also agree that NK was doing tests (nuk/ICBM) while Trump has been in office?

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:23 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:57 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:21 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:48 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:19 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:16 pm Like Miranda, you dodge the question about who we'll be fighting in the coming WW III which Trump starts & his successor will have to finish ?
If Trump's not re-elected, his (D) successor can slide right back into the JCPOA & collect his/her Nobel Peace Prize.
We're no closer to conflict with N Korea than we were 3 years ago. At least we're still talking rather than testing.
That would be your opinion...unless you have some factual links.
As is all original content in this discussion forum, get over it. Still no nucs or ICBMs tested.
That is a bull cookie as well...you make the statement like it's fact.
When's the last time N Korea tested a nuc or ICBM ?

Trump's doing more to help Ukraine than the entire EU combined, while garrisoning E Europe on NATO's behalf,
That has been proven to be inaccurate. They have given more money than the US.
Yeah. It's all in oligarch's offshore bank accounts in Cyprus. It's harder to launder Javelins & sniper rifles.
More opinion....it's impossible to eat a sniper rifle.
...& it's impossible to defend yourself against Russian arms without specific weapons. We're the only ones providing those weapons. Obama wouldn't even do it & Dr Fiona Hill wrote an OpEd praising him for not doing so.
You're fuzzing lethal military aid with loan guarantees.

as Vlad packs his golden parachute. Maybe he & Trump will start a joint venture when they both leave office in 2024.
China's got their hands full with Hong Kong, retraining millions of their restive Muslim citizens & closing cities to contain their latest pandemic.
The CIA's bio-op to infect snakes & bats is working.

Last time they tested a nuc was 9/3/17
Last time they tested an ICBM was 7/4/17
IF that is your measurement, things HAVE gotten worse since Trump took office...How are the negotiations for a nuclear free NK is going?
We may be the only ones providing lethal aid....but that isn't what you said.

No they haven't. They were testing nucs & ICBMs before Trump took office.
That was 18 mos ago, in the early months of the Trump Admin, a continuation of previous escalations.
That was before a massive show of US force, the ensuing summits & ongoing negotiations.

Lethal military aid is what the entire Ukrainian issue is about. What good are loan guarantees if nobody will sell you the weapons you need & the money is stolen by oligarchs.

The dates I provide came from Wiki....you can debate it with them. There are no ongoing summits or negotiations, NK made that clear.

Can we agree that the EU has sent more aid to the Ukraine than the US...whether it be guns or butter?

Yes. ...& any of it that was not obligated for specific purchases was vulnerable to corruption & diversion offshore.

That's the critical difference between financial aid & loan guarantees, like the one Biden threatened to hold up, & specific military aid for approved items, which were all non-leathal in nature, until Trump agreed to change US policy &, in so doing, confront Russia.

Can we also agree that NK was doing tests (nuk/ICBM) while Trump has been in office?

Yes, in his first few months in office, before Trump was able to engage & implement his policy, if we can agree they have not tested a nuc or ICBM since Trump began negotiations.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:08 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:38 pm Tweet of the Day so far

"It’s smart of John Bolton to hide evidence in a place where the president will never be able to find it - a book."

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:34 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:23 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:57 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:21 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:48 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:19 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:16 pm Like Miranda, you dodge the question about who we'll be fighting in the coming WW III which Trump starts & his successor will have to finish ?
If Trump's not re-elected, his (D) successor can slide right back into the JCPOA & collect his/her Nobel Peace Prize.
We're no closer to conflict with N Korea than we were 3 years ago. At least we're still talking rather than testing.
That would be your opinion...unless you have some factual links.
As is all original content in this discussion forum, get over it. Still no nucs or ICBMs tested.
That is a bull cookie as well...you make the statement like it's fact.
When's the last time N Korea tested a nuc or ICBM ?

Trump's doing more to help Ukraine than the entire EU combined, while garrisoning E Europe on NATO's behalf,
That has been proven to be inaccurate. They have given more money than the US.
Yeah. It's all in oligarch's offshore bank accounts in Cyprus. It's harder to launder Javelins & sniper rifles.
More opinion....it's impossible to eat a sniper rifle.
...& it's impossible to defend yourself against Russian arms without specific weapons. We're the only ones providing those weapons. Obama wouldn't even do it & Dr Fiona Hill wrote an OpEd praising him for not doing so.
You're fuzzing lethal military aid with loan guarantees.

as Vlad packs his golden parachute. Maybe he & Trump will start a joint venture when they both leave office in 2024.
China's got their hands full with Hong Kong, retraining millions of their restive Muslim citizens & closing cities to contain their latest pandemic.
The CIA's bio-op to infect snakes & bats is working.

Last time they tested a nuc was 9/3/17
Last time they tested an ICBM was 7/4/17
IF that is your measurement, things HAVE gotten worse since Trump took office...How are the negotiations for a nuclear free NK is going?
We may be the only ones providing lethal aid....but that isn't what you said.

No they haven't. They were testing nucs & ICBMs before Trump took office.
That was 18 mos ago, in the early months of the Trump Admin, a continuation of previous escalations.
That was before a massive show of US force, the ensuing summits & ongoing negotiations.

Lethal military aid is what the entire Ukrainian issue is about. What good are loan guarantees if nobody will sell you the weapons you need & the money is stolen by oligarchs.

The dates I provide came from Wiki....you can debate it with them. There are no ongoing summits or negotiations, NK made that clear.

Can we agree that the EU has sent more aid to the Ukraine than the US...whether it be guns or butter?

Yes. ...& any of it that was not obligated for specific purchases was vulnerable to corruption & diversion offshore.

That's the critical difference between financial aid & loan guarantees, like the one Biden threatened to hold up, & specific military aid for approved items, which were all non-leathal in nature, until Trump agreed to change US policy &, in so doing, confront Russia.

Can we also agree that NK was doing tests (nuk/ICBM) while Trump has been in office?

Yes, in his first few months in office, before Trump was able to engage & implement his policy, if we can agree they have not tested a nuc or ICBM since Trump began negotiations.

Agreed.

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:16 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:08 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:38 pm Tweet of the Day so far

"It’s smart of John Bolton to hide evidence in a place where the president will never be able to find it - a book."

and now we get to listen to Pam Bondi, who dropped an investigation into Trump University after Trump's foundation gave her campaign $25,000, who is here to lecture us about corruption. I guess she's an EXPERT WITNESS........on how to do corruption that is.